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Aug 30th, 2024 at 7:26am
 
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"Earth can get hotter by 25 degrees, shocking new climate study predicts

A shocking new study has made startling revelations about the rise in global temperatures. A team of scientists analysed Pacific Ocean sediments and found that the world can witness up to 14 degrees rise in temperatures, far more than what the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has predicted.

Doubling atmospheric Carbon Dioxide can push levels beyond current expectations of 2.3 to 4.5 degrees Celsius (4.1 to 8.1 degrees Fahrenheit).

Researchers from NIOZ and the Universities of Utrecht and Bristol studied the Pacific sediments near California and found that Earth’s average temperature can rise by 7 to 14 degrees Celsius (13 to 25.2 degrees Fahrenheit).

“The temperature rise we found is much larger than the 2.3 to 4.5 degrees Celsius (4.1 to 8.1 degrees Fahrenheit) that the UN climate panel, IPCC, has been estimating so far,” said the study's first author, Caitlyn Witkowski.

A method developed 20 years ago at NIOZ, called the TEX86 method, was used to determine the past seawater temperature and to find hints of ancient atmospheric CO2 levels.

A 45-year-old drill core extracted from the bottom of the Pacific Ocean was used for the study. Professor Jaap Sinninghe Damsté, senior scientist at NIOZ and professor of organic geochemistry at Utrecht University, said, "The ocean floor at that spot has had oxygen-free conditions for many millions of years", which made it an attractive candidate.


The climate study

To derive past atmospheric CO2 content, researchers used the chemical composition of chlorophyll and cholesterol - the two substances commonly found in algae.

They found clues that indicate a dramatic drop in CO2 concentration 15 million years ago. It came down from 650 parts per million to 280 just before the industrial revolution.

When the scientists placed the derived temperature and atmospheric CO2 levels of the past 15 million years together, they found that the average temperature at that time was way beyond what we have today. It was on average 18 degrees Celsius (64.4 degrees Fahrenheit): four degrees Celsius (7.2 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than current temperatures.

Worryingly, the IPCC predicts temperatures to reach this high in the year 2100 only if the Earth faces the most extreme scenario.

“So, this research gives us a glimpse of what the future could hold if we take too few measures to reduce CO2 emissions," Damsté said.

“The clear warning from this research is: CO2 concentration is likely to have a stronger impact on temperature than we are currently taking into account!”




https://www.wionews.com/science/earth-can-get-hotter-by-25-degrees-shocking-new-...
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Reply #1 - Aug 30th, 2024 at 1:52pm
 
As I knew would happen lees has “refuted” the above paper.

No doubt there were lots of  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

and some  Wink among the crap lees would have posted.

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Reply #2 - Sep 2nd, 2024 at 11:26pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 30th, 2024 at 1:52pm:
As I knew would happen lees has “refuted” the above paper.

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I think you might be missing a decimal point in your findings. Average global temperatures might reach 4 degrees higher, if we had twice as many people on the planet and half the amount of flora.

But the planet is not going to double in human population. The AIDS epidemic and the world on the brink of a considerable Middle Eastern conflict has seen to that.
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Reply #3 - Sep 2nd, 2024 at 11:31pm
 
Monk,

Whilst you are at it, check the sources of your information. Have a read through the articles: https://www.wionews.com/australia-and-new-zealand

It is clearly an Indian news outlet. Indians are not known for being environmentally friendly people.
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Reply #4 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 4:30am
 
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It is 25°F not 25°C.
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Reply #5 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 5:34am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 4:30am:
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Researchers from NIOZ and the Universities of Utrecht and Bristol studied the Pacific sediments near California


It is 25°F not 25°C.


In either event, the article is wrong.
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Reply #6 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 5:35am
 
You will have to overturn the evidence found to be able to say the story was wrong.
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Reply #7 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 5:38am
 
If the average regional summer temperature is 95°F, the temperature rise of 25°F would make the average daily summer average of 120°F. Or 115, if the average daily summer temperatures is 90°F.

The article might make sense for people living in Melbourne. However, I would reckon any east coast Tasmanian resident would know better.
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Reply #8 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 5:41am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 5:35am:
You will have to overturn the evidence found to be able to say the story was wrong.


I'm an intermediate-skilled meteorologist. I think I know a thing or two about weather patterns and climate change. I probably know more about climate change than anyone else on this OzPol website forum. You actually have to be an accredited meteorologist to know more about climate change and weather systems.
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Reply #9 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 5:46am
 
Here is the original paper:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-47676-9

Just overturn that science  Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #10 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 6:01am
 
Where in the article does it say 25°F temperature rise?
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Reply #11 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 6:04am
 
Check the sources of the article, Monk. It says right there in the website address: "nature.com".

You reckon they be embellishing, somewhat?
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Reply #12 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 6:21am
 
It is a paper in Nature.

From the abstract:
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we calculate average Earth system sensitivity and equilibrium climate sensitivity, resulting in 13.9 °C and 7.2 °C per doubling of pCO2, respectively.
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Reply #13 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 6:23am
 
In the Abstract:

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we calculate average Earth system sensitivity and equilibrium climate sensitivity, resulting in 13.9 °C and 7.2 °C per doubling of pCO2, respectively.
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