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Re: Average super at retirement
Reply #30 - Sep 7^th, 2024 at 4:24pm

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2024 at 4:17pm:

Those are completely different phenomena Bobby. A lot of the places in the US are pretty much the opposite of a slum. The buildings are run down because everyone left down. The drug dealers and homeless people then moved in, because there was basically free housing, or close to it. But that does not mean they caused the problem by hanging around making the place look untidy or punching holes in the wall.

You wouldn't go near a genuine slum, because of the smell.

That's one way it happens.
In France and in Chicago they Govt set up social housing for
the disadvantaged and new immigrants.
We are talking about 10 story high tenements that go on for mile after mile -
quickly turned into slums, housing 100s of 1000s of criminals
who would rob you and kill you for your watch or shoes or even $2.

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whiteknight Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8221 melbourne Gender:	Re: Average super at retirement Reply #31 - Sep 7^th, 2024 at 4:26pm Yes Bobby right again, but I cant see the government funded pension age, going down to 55. Then again though, at least the greens, support a pension age of 65. Think I will vote green at next election.
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Re: Average super at retirement
Reply #32 - Sep 7^th, 2024 at 4:44pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 7^th, 2024 at 4:24pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2024 at 4:17pm:

Those are completely different phenomena Bobby. A lot of the places in the US are pretty much the opposite of a slum. The buildings are run down because everyone left down. The drug dealers and homeless people then moved in, because there was basically free housing, or close to it. But that does not mean they caused the problem by hanging around making the place look untidy or punching holes in the wall.

You wouldn't go near a genuine slum, because of the smell.

That's one way it happens.
In France and in Chicago they Govt set up social housing for
the disadvantaged and new immigrants.
We are talking about 10 story high tenements that go on for mile after mile -
quickly turned into slums, housing 100s of 1000s of criminals
who would rob you and kill you for your watch or shoes or even $2.

You can learn a lot of TV shows, can't you Bobby?

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Re: Average super at retirement
Reply #33 - Sep 7^th, 2024 at 4:52pm

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2024 at 4:44pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 7^th, 2024 at 4:24pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2024 at 4:17pm:

Those are completely different phenomena Bobby. A lot of the places in the US are pretty much the opposite of a slum. The buildings are run down because everyone left down. The drug dealers and homeless people then moved in, because there was basically free housing, or close to it. But that does not mean they caused the problem by hanging around making the place look untidy or punching holes in the wall.

You wouldn't go near a genuine slum, because of the smell.

That's one way it happens.
In France and in Chicago they Govt set up social housing for
the disadvantaged and new immigrants.
We are talking about 10 story high tenements that go on for mile after mile -
quickly turned into slums, housing 100s of 1000s of criminals
who would rob you and kill you for your watch or shoes or even $2.

You can learn a lot of TV shows, can't you Bobby?

Video is a powerful tool -
you see it with your own eyes.

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Re: Average super at retirement
Reply #34 - Sep 7^th, 2024 at 6:35pm

whiteknight wrote on Sep 7^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

Yes Bobby right again, but I cant see the government funded pension age, going down to 55. Then again though, at least the greens, support a pension age of 65. Think I will vote green at next election. Sad

When the pension age at 65 was introduced the life expectancy was about 58.
Anyone who reached 65 was 'old'

Now the life expectancy is about 85. It is a different world

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Re: Average super at retirement
Reply #35 - Sep 7^th, 2024 at 7:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 7^th, 2024 at 4:24pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2024 at 4:17pm:

Those are completely different phenomena Bobby. A lot of the places in the US are pretty much the opposite of a slum. The buildings are run down because everyone left down. The drug dealers and homeless people then moved in, because there was basically free housing, or close to it. But that does not mean they caused the problem by hanging around making the place look untidy or punching holes in the wall.

You wouldn't go near a genuine slum, because of the smell.

That's one way it happens.
In France and in Chicago they Govt set up social housing for
the disadvantaged and new immigrants.
We are talking about 10 story high tenements that go on for mile after mile -
quickly turned into slums, housing 100s of 1000s of criminals
who would rob you and kill you for your watch or shoes or even $2.

It happens in Australia, although on a much smaller scale relative to major cities worldwide.

It's the unavoidable trade-off: social housing and/or removing mandated minimum housing standards, risking their becoming antisocial and/or crime hubs, or their otherwise would-be tenants homeless living in the streets and parks.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46726 Gender:	Re: Average super at retirement Reply #36 - Sep 17^th, 2024 at 7:26pm The Association of Superannuation Funds of Australia says a single person needs $595,000 in super at age 67 to generate a comfortable retirement income using super and a part age pension. Couples require $690,000 between them.
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Re: Average super at retirement
Reply #37 - Sep 17^th, 2024 at 8:06pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 7^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

whiteknight wrote on Sep 7^th, 2024 at 4:26pm:

Yes Bobby right again, but I cant see the government funded pension age, going down to 55. Then again though, at least the greens, support a pension age of 65. Think I will vote green at next election. Sad

When the pension age at 65 was introduced the life expectancy was about 58.
Anyone who reached 65 was 'old'

Now the life expectancy is about 85. It is a different world

Guess what? We oldies couldn't give a rat's. Take it out of the politician's early resignation scheme... pension for life at an early age for not retiring... bewdiful.

Look at Poor Billy Shorten - won't make ends meet on $1.8m pa in his new 'job', so he desperately needs that top-up ... poor bastard.... all those years of service at first class rates ... it's a tough life.... no way could he have put enough away to cover his RESIGNATION....

I say put the bastards all on the chain gangs they designed for everyone else and make them work for a change - and not at taking a wrecking ball to this country.... put everyone on the same super scheme and salary and perks and tax deductions ... bit extra to take the family on a jaunt... (wink, wink) .... you know...

Now what about we put everyone on the same perks. Go on a work trip - boss pays to take the family along..... travel to work - fully paid and costs tax deductible.... heavily subsidised top range food.... mega-rich retirement fund.... all assistants paid for...

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