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Labor Letting The RBA Crash The Economy
Sep 7th, 2024 at 6:36am
 
Labor Letting the RBA Crash the Economy   
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Treasurer Jim Chalmers is sitting on his hands while the RBA is causing massive pain to young people and mortgage holders and deliberately risking a recession, the Greens say.   Sad

“Jim Chalmers and Wayne Swan are making noise about high interest rates, but Labor is giving the RBA free rein to crash the economy and punish Australians,” Greens Economic Justice Spokesperson Senator Nick McKim said.

“If Labor really cared about people being smashed by rising rates, they’d stop siding with the RBA and use the power they have to bring down interest rates.”

“By not only refusing to do anything to change course, and actively trying to water down his own power to intervene, Jim Chalmers is showing he is happy to let the RBA send Australians to the wall.”

“Labor could introduce a super-profits tax to take the pressure off inflation, but they’re too busy protecting their corporate mates.”

“Labor is more interested in letting the big corporations make out like bandits than in using its power to stop this looming recession. It’s reckless and morally indefensible.”
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Reply #1 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 6:38am
 
“Labor could introduce a super-profits tax to take the pressure off inflation, but they’re too busy protecting their corporate mates.”   Sad
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Reply #2 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 7:59am
 
This is why the RBA was given independence - so that politicians didn't manipulate interest rates for political reasons. We learnt that lesson the hard way. Not the Greens, obviously. Every one of their policies you post here is a rejection of well established economic principles. It's like they have taken "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" as their new guiding principle.
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Reply #3 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 9:19am
 
freediver wrote on Sep 7th, 2024 at 7:59am:
This is why the RBA was given independence - so that politicians didn't manipulate interest rates for political reasons. We learnt that lesson the hard way. Not the Greens, obviously. Every one of their policies you post here is a rejection of well established economic principles. It's like they have taken "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" as their new guiding principle.



But it was the RBA that printed all the money that caused high inflation.

They should have said NO to the Govt. when Govt bonds were issued -
and not printed money to pay for them.
We are still going into more National Govt. debt.
It's now $1.2 trillion as we live way beyond our means:

Australian Debt Clock
http://australiandebtclock.com.au/

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Reply #4 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 10:07am
 
whiteknight wrote on Sep 7th, 2024 at 6:36am:
Treasurer Jim Chalmers is sitting on his hands while the RBA is causing massive pain to young people and mortgage holders and deliberately risking a recession, the Greens say



Someone should let the greens know that the RBA is independent of government. Roll Eyes
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Reply #5 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 11:16am
 
This is why the greens are right.  Of course some people will use scare tactics though.  We need a super profit tax.   Sad
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Reply #6 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 12:36pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 7th, 2024 at 7:59am:
This is why the RBA was given independence - so that politicians didn't manipulate interest rates for political reasons. We learnt that lesson the hard way. Not the Greens, obviously. Every one of their policies you post here is a rejection of well established economic principles. It's like they have taken "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" as their new guiding principle.


You didn't reply (in the 'falling living standards" thread) where I explained your "well established economic principles" taught to you by a lecturer spouting obsolete neoclassical theries  are little more than semi religious mumbo jumbo.

"Well established principles", with the "independence of the CB" enabling the fools Bullock and Chalmers, top economists  who are BOTH fooled by these "well established principles"  into blaming one-another for falling living standards, or alternatively, claim they each have a different job to do, which the Coalition claims is "the CB putting its foot on the brake while the Labor government is  putting its foot on the accelerator."

....Easy for Conservatives to say; "let (the poor) eat cake" is in their DNA.
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Reply #7 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 12:41pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Sep 7th, 2024 at 11:16am:
This is why the greens are right.  Of course some people will use scare tactics though.  We need a super profit tax.   Sad



Sure we do, but that has little to do with interest rates.
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Reply #8 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 1:01pm
 
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But it was the RBA that printed all the money that caused high inflation.


No it wasn't.
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Reply #9 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 1:06pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 7th, 2024 at 12:41pm:
whiteknight wrote on Sep 7th, 2024 at 11:16am:
This is why the greens are right.  Of course some people will use scare tactics though.  We need a super profit tax.   Sad


Sure we do, but that has little to do with interest rates.


The Greens: “If Labor really cared about people being smashed by rising rates, they’d stop siding with the RBA and use the power they have to bring down interest rates.”

Unfortunately the Greens' spokesman didn't say  - as you correctly noted  - what power Labor has to bring down interest rates, and how they would do it, which is why the Greens answer to economc hardship is tax increases on the wealthty and big companies - non starters for politicians who have to get elected.      

That's because the Greens - like everyone else - don't want to explore altenatives to our obsolete mainstream neoclassical/neoliberal economies, with politicians hiding behind the "independent central bank" dogma.




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Reply #10 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 1:32pm
 
The RBA is supposed to be independent. However Labor appointed Bullock. Also the Labor budgets were not really in the black. Most of the spending was put into the long-term debt. The budgets were inflationary, but it is the RBA's fault. Roll Eyes
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Reply #11 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 2:19pm
 
The RBA was never independent.  but you are right about the appointment of yet another old mate from the barricades -  if you've served your time in some minor and ultimately forgettable 'war' for women or something - why - you could be a 'governor-general'!!

What's wrong with Labor these days?  THAT!!  It's all about getting a great gig for self and your old frontline mates who've done not a thing of use in life other than carry on the same as those lunatics who camp outside universities to support Hamas.

I'll call this one the Higgins Syndrome - how to become a high-ranking millionaire without work by becoming a Joan of Arc for 'women's rights', or something else trendy and totally unfounded in reality.

Men have been sitting on the rough end of the pineapple since the 1980's - and it began earlier with free uni and women with time on their hands flocking to them and building up numbers - now look at them - disasters from start to finish, same as politics and the public service and many professions... I looked up my doppleganger - Professor of Medicine - and what did I find? Five out of six 'professors' of medicine in that uni are now women.  As in WTF?

Did men suddenly become too stupid to handle the structures and jobs they designed, built, maintained and extended for generations, or is it so weak and powerless and without balls that they just allow this matriarchy to dominate and control and take all power positions?

Anyone?  If you want an example of how a matriarchy runs things into the ground - look at the NT government.... then cast your eyes on AlboGuv Inc..... and the Jobs for the Girls Scandals time and again.

Feminism is the greatest danger to Western social fabric, national security, and economic stability - and is the root cause of all the 'whinge until you get' idiotologies doing the rounds these days.  Every swinging tit that comes along with a Manifesto uses the now well-trodden path to Victory Uber Alles that was worn by the feminists - whinge, cry, carry on about feelings, be 'offended' by everything instead of growing up, say you are oppressed, rave about 'rights', any lie will do if repeated over and over (wage gap lie) ... and Bob who was your uncle is now your auntie and wants his balls cut off so he can share in the lovely... artificial advancement, coddling over everything, special this and special that, time off for feelings, right to make accusations without challenge ... the list grows and grows.  32 years of lunging the knives at men over any claimed or perceived possibility of a fight, and stealing their families and assets without any essence of fairness or decency, and they still don't get it.... the violent approach to men IS violence - it will never PREVENT violence but will instead leave another long chain of angry victims.  HELLO!!

Good men can't even get a decent gig in the Armed Services unless they take the hard and dangerous work - the engineer officers I used to know were often big blokes who could hold up the front of a Land Rover with one hand... now the bosses are sheilas ... will the young men of Australia - who WILL be the ones called upon in a real emergency - actually bother to defend a nation that has betrayed them?  How many women have passed through the British Parachute Regiment's training for full Para? NONE!  They don't like the mud, the hefty packs, and the thirty mile cross-countries etc, not to mention constant running here and there.

Sgt Guarnere:- "They can shoot me. I am NOT jumping into China under command of that woman..."
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Reply #12 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 2:47pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 7th, 2024 at 1:01pm:
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But it was the RBA that printed all the money that caused high inflation.


No it wasn't.



Who did then?

https://www.rba.gov.au/publications/annual-reports/rba/2006/note-printing.html

Note Printing Australia

Note Printing Australia Limited (NPA), based at Craigieburn in Victoria,
is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Reserve Bank, which produces currency notes for Australia.
Securency is currently more than doubling its manufacturing capacity at Craigieburn
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Reply #13 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 4:58pm
 
Bump for FD.
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Reply #14 - Sep 7th, 2024 at 7:27pm
 
My daughter was at the Hyatt this week where the RBA Gov gave her speech. Grin
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