wombatwoody wrote on Sep 8
th, 2024 at 6:07pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 8
th, 2024 at 9:47am:
Israel wants peace.
Bullcrap. Any Israeli leader who attempts to make peace is assassinated, like former PM Yitzhak Rabin.
Quote:Unfortunately, Palestinians want to slaughter Jews. This is not Israel's fault. The Palestinians are just following Muhammad's example.
How many times must I show that is not true, before you will finally understand it?
Many times I've shown how Arabs and Jews lived in peace for centuries and centuries.
The trouble started with Zionism.
So your proof that the Israelis don't want peace is the fact that they democratically elected a PM who even you admit sought peace?
How about the fact that they do not seek war, did not start any of the wars that Israel has been involved in, and gave back huge tracks of land they won in those wars?
And your argument about them "living in peace" for centuries also does not hold water. Parroting it won't make any difference, so I do not understand your complaint that being a parrot has no effect on others. There are four clear reasons I can think of:
1) Following the European holocaust, the Arabs tried to have their own. They were successful of ridding their countries of almost all Jews. Let me know if you need the numbers again. They were only unsuccessful when they tried to follow it with a military assault on the Jews that fled to Israel rather than leaving lands "owned" by Islam.
2) There are plenty of precedents of Muhammad himself either slaughtering Jews, or expelling them first then years later slaughtering them wherever they ended up.
3) They did not "live in peace". They lived under the subjugation of Islamic law. Democracy, human rights, and Jews being in charge is an affront to all of those things. Tolerating a small number of remnant Jews under subjugation and constant threat of death is not the same as tolerating free Jews creating their own country, creating democracy, giving Jews, Muslims and everyone else human rights etc.
4) LTYC is on the fringe here. Across the Arab Muslim world, his views are the norm. The place is full of little Hitlers spreading the sort of absurd anti-Jewish propaganda that passes for a joke in the west. Perhaps that is why you instinctively come to the defense of the Islamic supremacists.