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Sep 8th, 2024 at 12:30am
 
The sinister Ozpolitic cabal which shall not be named has become silent as the atrocities and genocide of the Israeli Jews continues and intensifies.

FleaDriver, Bvr, Grappler, Gordon, Chimera, and Tallowood are too embarrassed to support the genocide.

What are the rights of Israeli Jews?
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Reply #1 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 8:25am
 
I could imagine a major fall in oil prices if the Israelis left Israel to Palestinians.
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Reply #2 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 9:05am
 
I could imagine world peace if Palestine became a free democratic state from the river to the sea.

Four countries would be liberated, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan.

Give peace a chance.

All we  saying is give peace chance.

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I could imagine world peace if Palestine became a free democratic state from the river to the sea.


Like Israel, the country they are trying to destroy?

I could imagine another holocaust if the Palestinians had their way. Then another tinpot dictatorship that kills even more Muslims while the world turns a blind eye, because it is just "part of their culture".
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Reply #4 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 9:24am
 
FleaDriver and is Israeli Jews warmongering genocidal ilk do not believe in peace and do not deserve peace.

Israel began with Jewish violence and terrorism and it has never stopped.
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Reply #5 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 9:47am
 
Israel wants peace. They even supplied electricity and water to Gaza.

Unfortunately, Palestinians want to slaughter Jews. This is not Israel's fault. The Palestinians are just following Muhammad's example.

The Gazans could have had democracy. Instead they let Hamas take it away from them. Slaughtering Jews is more important to them than having clean water, lights, or fundamental human rights.
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Reply #6 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 9:51am
 
If Israel gives up the fight, Israelis will be genocided - if the Arabs give up the fight, there will be peace.

GFY.  We all know it's useless trying to talk sense to you - better you just be banned permanently.
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Reply #7 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 10:03am
 
Why are you so scared of Jews LTYC? Did someone tell you to be scared of them?
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Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 12:30am:
too embarrassed to support the genocide.

Genocide is good. Jewish Hamas attacked Jews at the Jew rock concert in October. Gaza is a Jewish jihad which supports Palestinian Muslim Jews bombing Jews, Allah u akbar. Islam is Jewish and laughs and cries.
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Reply #9 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 11:11am
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 12:30am:
The sinister Ozpolitic cabal which shall not be named has become silent as the atrocities and genocide of the Israeli Jews continues and intensifies.

FleaDriver, Bvr, Grappler, Gordon, Chimera, and Tallowood are too embarrassed to support the genocide.

What are the rights of Israeli Jews?


Quoting the words of a radical sellout.... just like yourself you terrorist supporting POS.
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Reply #10 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 11:37am
 
The entire situation in the Middle East is beyond my minds limited capacity.

The wars are horrible. Not just this one. All of them!

I support Israel however my understanding has changed ( in part to ltyc posts) with consideration of other views and subsequent events.

Bibi Is a mass murder. Not on the same scale of Hitler but definitely in the same style.

I support Israel not Bibi.

This conflict isn’t black and white but many shades of grey.

The hostages must be released, the land grabs/ stealing must stop and most importantly the killing must end.

I sincerely hope trump wins in America and withdraws the support Israel hides behind.

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Reply #11 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 12:01pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 9:05am:
I could imagine world peace if Palestine became a free democratic state from the river to the sea.


from the river to the sea
no Arabs can be seen.

Because Arabia for Arabs.
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Reply #12 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 12:30pm
 
Tallowood is submitting his candidature to become the Ozpolitic wethers' Judas Goat.

Israeli Jews don't deserve peace. They are hateful people who commit mass murder and genocide.

If Israeli Jews returned to their real homeland, New York, the whole world would be a happier place.

The Middle East would bloom with social and democratic growth.
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Reply #13 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 12:36pm
 
Did a Jew mistreat you when you were a child?
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Reply #14 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 12:50pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 12:36pm:
Did a Jew mistreat you when you were a child?


You wish.
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Did you mistreat a Jew when you were a child?
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chimera wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 1:03pm:
Did you mistreat a Jew when you were a child?


I never knew a single Jew in childhood. Never knew what a Jew was.

The first time I heard the word was at the age of 10 when an Australian-born friend's Australian-born father asked "You're not a Jew are you"? I didn't even know what a Jew was. But, the tone of voice told me it was best to say no.

Nobody I knew through primary, secondary, and tertiary education identified themselves as a Jew.
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Reply #17 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 1:36pm
 
If I was running a secret cabal of Jewish puppet masters controlling the western media and politicians, the first thing I would do is recruit the craziest online conspiracy theorists to spread nonsensical gibberish about Jews in order to make people inclined to disbelieve everything else they read about Jews.
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Reply #18 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 1:50pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 1:31pm:
chimera wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 1:03pm:
Did you mistreat a Jew when you were a child?


I never knew a single Jew in childhood. Never knew what a Jew was.

The first time I heard the word was at the age of 10 when an Australian-born friend's Australian-born father asked "You're not a Jew are you"? I didn't even know what a Jew was. But, the tone of voice told me it was best to say no.

Nobody I knew through primary, secondary, and tertiary education identified themselves as a Jew.



They look like this don't they?


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Nobody I knew through primary, secondary, and tertiary education identified themselves as a Jew.


To you. I'm guessing a lot of people avoid giving you any personal information about themselves.
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freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 2:26pm:
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Nobody I knew through primary, secondary, and tertiary education identified themselves as a Jew.


To you. I'm guessing a lot of people avoid giving you any personal information about themselves.


I didn't live in a ghetto like FleaDriver did with people of his ilk.

I arrived in Australia at age 3.

Firstly, I lived in an inner Melbourne suburb from age 3 to age 10.

Then I lived in an outer Melbourne rural area on a 25-acre homestead until age 21.

Then, at age 21, I left home on my rest-of-life adventure which included living in 15 countries. I have been to every state in Australia and lived in 3 states.

I saw more Muslims than people who could be identified as Jews.

I can't ever recall seeing anyone wearing a yarmulke or any other Jewish headwear or garb except on TV.
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Reply #21 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 3:18pm
 
Why does lamination scare you?
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chimera wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 3:18pm:
Why does lamination scare you?


The association of the presence of the yarmulke guy with laminating who is a foreign agent with malicious intent.

What will happen now is that everyone who wants the impossible from Officeworks or other Australian businesses will wear a yarmulke and shout antisemitic allegations.

Australian businesses will be besieged by lines of yarmulke men shouting allegations.
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Reply #23 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 3:32pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 3:13pm:
I can't ever recall seeing anyone wearing a yarmulke or any other Jewish headwear or garb except on TV.

There are some good psychiatrists in Melbourne.
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chimera wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 3:32pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 3:13pm:
I can't ever recall seeing anyone wearing a yarmulke or any other Jewish headwear or garb except on TV.

There are some good psychiatrists in Melbourne.


Chimera is not cured.

I lived in Australia plus 15 countries including UK, USA, Canada, and France and did not see anyone wearing a yarmulke.

I didn't specifically look for or seek out such people.

I am starting to think Jews are a figment.
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Reply #25 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 3:37pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 3:13pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 2:26pm:
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Nobody I knew through primary, secondary, and tertiary education identified themselves as a Jew.


To you. I'm guessing a lot of people avoid giving you any personal information about themselves.


I didn't live in a ghetto like FleaDriver did with people of his ilk.

I arrived in Australia at age 3.

Firstly, I lived in an inner Melbourne suburb from age 3 to age 10.

Then I lived in an outer Melbourne rural area on a 25-acre homestead until age 21.

Then, at age 21, I left home on my rest-of-life adventure which included living in 15 countries. I have been to every state in Australia and lived in 3 states.

I saw more Muslims than people who could be identified as Jews.

I can't ever recall seeing anyone wearing a yarmulke or any other Jewish headwear or garb except on TV.


I've met plenty of Jews. And Christians. And people of other religions. Very few of them wear traditional religious garb. If that's how you identify Jews, no wonder you are oblivious to them.
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Reply #26 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 3:51pm
 
Of course, FleaDriver has met plenty of Jews. FleaDriver is a Jew. Jews are known to associate and congregate with their ilk.

But, how does FleaDriver know he has met people of other religions if they have not told him they are religious.

FleaDriver has already made the statement that a person cannot be religiously labeled by their garb.

Please explain.

I am not getting into one of FleaDriver's Punch and Judy strings.
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Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 3:35pm:
I am starting to think Jews are a figment.

And this figment enrages you. 
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chimera wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 4:19pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 3:35pm:
I am starting to think Jews are a figment.

And this figment enrages you. 


Well yes, have you ever tried to have a figment laminated?
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Yes, I screamed, it was terrifying.
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freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 9:47am:
Israel wants peace. 


Bullcrap. Any Israeli leader who attempts to make peace is assassinated, like former PM Yitzhak Rabin.

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Unfortunately, Palestinians want to slaughter Jews. This is not Israel's fault. The Palestinians are just following Muhammad's example.


How many times must I show that is not true, before you will finally understand it?

Many times I've shown how Arabs and Jews lived in peace for centuries and centuries.

The trouble started with Zionism.


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freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 1:36pm:
... a secret cabal of Jewish puppet masters controlling the western media and politicians


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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Reply #32 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 6:29pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 1:36pm:
... a secret cabal of Jewish puppet masters controlling the western media and politicians


On 1 July 2012, the essay, Jews DO control the media by Manny Friedman was published by the Times of Israel:

Jews DO control the media


Let’s be honest with ourselves, here, fellow Jews. We do control the media. We’ve got so many dudes up in the executive offices in all the big movie production companies it’s almost obscene. Just about every movie or TV show, whether it be “Tropic Thunder” or “Curb Your Enthusiasm,” is rife with actors, directors, and writers who are Jewish. Did you know that all eight major film studios are run by Jews?

But that’s not all. We also control the ads that go on those TV shows...


https://web.archive.org/web/20140125085955/http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jews-d...


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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Reply #33 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 6:36pm
 
AND:

On 19 December 2008, Joel Stein said this in his LA Times essay, Who runs Hollywood? C'mon

When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish).


https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-dec-19-oe-stein19-story.html

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Reply #34 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 6:38pm
 
Jews control the media and control politicians.

How? By blackmail. Mossad specializes in finding dirt and manufacturing dirt on politicians.

Jews prefer blackmail because its cheaper than pay-offs.

'Dirt' doesn't have to be true, it just has to be reasonably credible.

Jews will start mail and telephone and email assaults on anyone selected for such targeting campaigns. It can cause acute distress, financial difficulties, loss of career, and loss of employment.

Such campaigns are vicious and hateful and they are often unstoppable by the initiators because the rank-and-file mobs of goons won't stop the persecution.
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Reply #35 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 6:57pm
 
AND:


The Jewish Establishment


(Reprinted from SOBRAN’S, September 1995, pages 4–5)

It’s permissible to discuss the power of every other group, from the Black Muslims to the Christian Right, but the much greater power of the Jewish Establishment is off-limits. That, in fact, is the chief measure of its power: its ability to impose its own taboos while tearing down the taboos of others — you might almost say its prerogative of offending. You can read articles in Jewish-controlled publications from the Times to Commentary blaming Christianity for the Holocaust or accusing Pope Pius XII of indifference to it, but don’t look for articles in any major publication that wants to stay in business examining the Jewish role in Communism and liberalism, however temperately...

The single most powerful Jewish lobbying group is the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), which, as its former director Thomas Dine openly boasted, controls Congress...

Jewish-owned publications like the Wall Street Journal, The New Republic, The Atlantic Monthly, U.S. News & World Report, the New York Post, and New York’s Daily News emit relentless pro-Israel propaganda; so do such pundits as William Safire, A.M. Rosenthal, Charles Krauthammer, Jeane Kirkpatrick, and George Will, to name a few.


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Reply #36 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 7:20pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 6:38pm:
'Dirt' doesn't have to be true, it just has to be reasonably credible.

Indeed. They laminate, hide under yarmulkes you can't see, control Hamas and figments.
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Reply #37 - Sep 8th, 2024 at 7:34pm
 
chimera wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 7:20pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 6:38pm:
'Dirt' doesn't have to be true, it just has to be reasonably credible.

Indeed. They laminate, hide under yarmulkes you can't see, control Hamas and figments.


Of course, they do.

Yarmulkes are a good place to hide things. Because otherwise, there is nothing of value to human society under yarmulkes. Especially Chimera's yarmulke.
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Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 3:51pm:
But, how does FleaDriver know he has met people of other religions if they have not told him they are religious.


People have other ways of communicating, beside sending signals to you with their clothes. Like I said, very few religious people wear traditional religious garb. If that's how you identify Jews, no wonder you are oblivious to them.

Do you think they are blending in with their western clothing as part of the grand conspiracy?
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Reply #39 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 8:53am
 
Interesting..
A person with autism might:
Have trouble understanding other people's feelings
Repeat words or phrases over and over
Have obsessive interests
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Reply #40 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 8:54am
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 3:51pm:
Of course, FleaDriver has met plenty of Jews. FleaDriver is a Jew. MuslimsJews are known to associate and congregate with their ilk.

But, how does FleaDriver know he has met people of other religions if they have not told him they are religious.

FleaDriver has already made the statement that a person cannot be religiously labeled by their garb.

Please explain.

I am not getting into one of FleaDriver's Punch and Judy strings.


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Reply #41 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 8:55am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 6:07pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 9:47am:
Israel wants peace. 


Bullcrap. Any Israeli leader who attempts to make peace is assassinated, like former PM Yitzhak Rabin.

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Unfortunately, Palestinians want to slaughter Jews. This is not Israel's fault. The Palestinians are just following Muhammad's example.


How many times must I show that is not true, before you will finally understand it?

Many times I've shown how Arabs and Jews lived in peace for centuries and centuries.

The trouble started with Zionism.




So your proof that the Israelis don't want peace is the fact that they democratically elected a PM who even you admit sought peace?

How about the fact that they do not seek war, did not start any of the wars that Israel has been involved in, and gave back huge tracks of land they won in those wars?

And your argument about them "living in peace" for centuries also does not hold water. Parroting it won't make any difference, so I do not understand your complaint that being a parrot has no effect on others. There are four clear reasons I can think of:

1) Following the European holocaust, the Arabs tried to have their own. They were successful of ridding their countries of almost all Jews. Let me know if you need the numbers again. They were only unsuccessful  when they tried to follow it with a military assault on the Jews that fled to Israel rather than leaving lands "owned" by Islam.

2) There are plenty of precedents of Muhammad himself either slaughtering Jews, or expelling them first then years later slaughtering them wherever they ended up.

3) They did not "live in peace". They lived under the subjugation of Islamic law. Democracy, human rights, and Jews being in charge is an affront to all of those things. Tolerating a small number of remnant Jews under subjugation and constant threat of death is not the same as tolerating free Jews creating their own country, creating democracy, giving Jews, Muslims and everyone else human rights etc.

4) LTYC is on the fringe here. Across the Arab Muslim world, his views are the norm. The place is full of little Hitlers spreading the sort of absurd anti-Jewish propaganda that passes for a joke in the west. Perhaps that is why you instinctively come to the defense of the Islamic supremacists.
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Reply #42 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:13am
 
FleaDriver has now seized the position of Judas goat for the Ozpolitic wethers.

Hate propagators Bvr, Yadda, Chimera, Grappler, and Gordon are being castigated for their silence by Juda Goat FleaDriver.
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Reply #43 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:41am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 6:07pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 9:47am:
Israel wants peace. 


Bullcrap. Any Israeli leader who attempts to make peace is assassinated, like former PM Yitzhak Rabin.

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Unfortunately, Palestinians want to slaughter Jews. This is not Israel's fault. The Palestinians are just following Muhammad's example.


How many times must I show that is not true, before you will finally understand it?

Many times I've shown how Arabs and Jews lived in peace for centuries and centuries.

The trouble started with Zionism.




Past tense.  Roll Eyes

Zionism is not a problem nor the problem.

Changing it's true meaning to one of insult & a derogatory term is what the problem is ... & guess who is doing that ... besides you?

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Zionism is at its essence a movement advocating for the Jewish people’s right to self-determination.

Whether Jews were fleeing the Nazis in Europe, Arab dictatorships in the Middle East, or brutal crackdowns in Ethiopia, Zionism has always dedicated itself to preserving the lives and freedoms of Jews around the world.

The Zionist movement strives to provide the Jewish people a place in their historical homeland, where they can seek refuge from all types of persecution.

Zionism means supporting a country built by refugees and immigrants, a country which provides full rights for women and LGBT+ citizens, a country the size of New Jersey that has created more medical and technological advancements than nearly any other, the Middle East’s strongest democracy, Israel.


On campus however, Zionism has a very different meaning and connotation.

Identifying as a Zionist often results in being cursed at and told that you are not welcome on campus.

It can also lead to hate filled accusations of racism, fascism, genocide, or whatever else protestors can rhyme together.

Although Zionists are few and far in between on campuses across the country, this is not a result of animosity towards the Zionist ideology, but a lack of exposure to what Zionism really means.

What being a Zionist does not mean is supporting everything the Israeli government does, or everything Benjamin Netanyahu says.

There is no standardized political position held by all Zionists nor should there be.

You don’t support the construction of settlements in the disputed territories of the West Bank?
Great, you can still be a Zionist.


You believe that there should be a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? Wonderful, we’d love to hear your ideas.

Zionism does not advocate for the prioritization of Jewish citizens over Arab citizens of Israel or the separation of the two groups, but rather, strives for the Jewish people to have the basic right to coexist in peace.

Zionism is a movement dedicated to giving my [highlight]family and millions of others the basic right of self determination. It catalyzed the rebirth of the Jewish people from the ashes of the Holocaust,

advocated for people like my grandparents who were trapped in the Soviet Union, and gave my family a home in Israel where they were treated as full citizens for the first time.

To us, Israel symbolizes all that was lost and found, cried over and celebrated, saved and destroyed across the precarious journey of the Jewish people until their return home and the ultimate fulfillment of the Zionist dream.

If you support the right of families like mine to control their own futures, you’re already a Zionist. Author - Eliav Terk.
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Reply #44 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:58am
 
Gnads is furious he wasn't labeled as one of the wethers. Gnads has put his balls on the line.
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Reply #45 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:05pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Gnads is furious he wasn't labeled as one of the wethers. Gnads has put his balls on the line.



At the very least I have balls ... where's yours?

Fell off with the rubber ring?
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Reply #46 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:17pm
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:05pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Gnads is furious he wasn't labeled as one of the wethers. Gnads has put his balls on the line.



At the very least I have balls ... where's yours?

Fell off with the rubber ring?


Gnads, your application to be appointed Judas Goat of the Ozpolitic wethers is rejected.

FleaDriver has seized that role.

Gnads, you have been accused of excessive manual manipulation of your assets to improperly enrich yourself.
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Reply #47 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:34pm
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:05pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Gnads is furious he wasn't labeled as one of the wethers. Gnads has put his balls on the line.


At the very least I have balls ... where's yours?

Fell off with the rubber ring?


Harsh.

Have you ever tried chemical castration? Your response implies that you need to give that a go.
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Reply #48 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:50pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:34pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:05pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Gnads is furious he wasn't labeled as one of the wethers. Gnads has put his balls on the line.


At the very least I have balls ... where's yours?

Fell off with the rubber ring?


Harsh.

Have you ever tried chemical castration? Your response implies that you need to give that a go.


Gands would lose half his body weight if he self-castrated.

Gnads is a weasely little bleater less than 150 cm in height who has no assets to boast of other than his appendages.
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The original LTYC ... shady as a two-headed coin...
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Reply #50 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:13pm
 
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The original LTYC ... shady as a two-headed coin...


He is no Joker.
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Reply #51 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 8:55am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 6:07pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 9:47am:
Israel wants peace. 


Bullcrap. Any Israeli leader who attempts to make peace is assassinated, like former PM Yitzhak Rabin.

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Unfortunately, Palestinians want to slaughter Jews. This is not Israel's fault. The Palestinians are just following Muhammad's example.


How many times must I show that is not true, before you will finally understand it?

Many times I've shown how Arabs and Jews lived in peace for centuries and centuries.

The trouble started with Zionism.




So your proof that the Israelis don't want peace is the fact that they democratically elected a PM who even you admit sought peace?

How about the fact that they do not seek war, did not start any of the wars that Israel has been involved in, and gave back huge tracks of land they won in those wars?

And your argument about them "living in peace" for centuries also does not hold water. Parroting it won't make any difference, so I do not understand your complaint that being a parrot has no effect on others. There are four clear reasons I can think of:

1) Following the European holocaust, the Arabs tried to have their own. They were successful of ridding their countries of almost all Jews. Let me know if you need the numbers again. They were only unsuccessful  when they tried to follow it with a military assault on the Jews that fled to Israel rather than leaving lands "owned" by Islam.

2) There are plenty of precedents of Muhammad himself either slaughtering Jews, or expelling them first then years later slaughtering them wherever they ended up.

3) They did not "live in peace". They lived under the subjugation of Islamic law. Democracy, human rights, and Jews being in charge is an affront to all of those things. Tolerating a small number of remnant Jews under subjugation and constant threat of death is not the same as tolerating free Jews creating their own country, creating democracy, giving Jews, Muslims and everyone else human rights etc.

4) LTYC is on the fringe here. Across the Arab Muslim world, his views are the norm. The place is full of little Hitlers spreading the sort of absurd anti-Jewish propaganda that passes for a joke in the west. Perhaps that is why you instinctively come to the defense of the Islamic supremacists.


The religious right which effectively controls Israel does not want peace. That's why Rabin was taken out.


Yet again, for the umpteenth time, I have to show you this because you just keep coming out with the same old lies:


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For many centuries, the Muslims ruled Greece. Did the Greeks become Muslims? Did anyone even try to Islamize them? On the contrary, Christian Greeks held the highest positions in the Ottoman administration. The Bulgarians, Serbs, Romanians, Hungarians and other European nations lived at one time or another under Ottoman rule and clung to their Christian faith. Nobody compelled them to become Muslims and all of them remained devoutly Christian...

As is well known, under Muslim rule the Jews of Spain enjoyed a bloom the like of which the Jews did not enjoy anywhere else until almost our time. Poets like Yehuda Halevy wrote in Arabic, as did the great Maimonides. In Muslim Spain, Jews were ministers, poets, scientists. In Muslim Toledo, Christian, Jewish and Muslim scholars worked together and translated the ancient Greek philosophical and scientific texts. That was, indeed, the Golden Age. How would this have been possible, had the Prophet decreed the "spreading of the faith by the sword"?

What happened afterwards is even more telling. When the Catholics re-conquered Spain from the Muslims, they instituted a reign of religious terror. The Jews and the Muslims were presented with a cruel choice: to become Christians, to be massacred or to leave.
And where did the hundreds of thousand of Jews, who refused to abandon their faith, escape? Almost all of them were received with open arms in the Muslim countries. The Sephardi ("Spanish") Jews settled all over the Muslim world, from Morocco in the west to Iraq in the east, from Bulgaria (then part of the Ottoman Empire) in the north to Sudan in the south.
Nowhere were they persecuted
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Reply #52 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:41pm
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:41am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 6:07pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 9:47am:
Israel wants peace. 


Bullcrap. Any Israeli leader who attempts to make peace is assassinated, like former PM Yitzhak Rabin.

Quote:
Unfortunately, Palestinians want to slaughter Jews. This is not Israel's fault. The Palestinians are just following Muhammad's example.


How many times must I show that is not true, before you will finally understand it?

Many times I've shown how Arabs and Jews lived in peace for centuries and centuries.

The trouble started with Zionism.




Past tense.  Roll Eyes

Zionism is not a problem nor the problem.

Changing it's true meaning to one of insult & a derogatory term is what the problem is ... & guess who is doing that ... besides you?

Quote:
Zionism is at its essence a movement advocating for the Jewish people’s right to self-determination.

Whether Jews were fleeing the Nazis in Europe, Arab dictatorships in the Middle East, or brutal crackdowns in Ethiopia, Zionism has always dedicated itself to preserving the lives and freedoms of Jews around the world.

The Zionist movement strives to provide the Jewish people a place in their historical homeland, where they can seek refuge from all types of persecution.

Zionism means supporting a country built by refugees and immigrants, a country which provides full rights for women and LGBT+ citizens, a country the size of New Jersey that has created more medical and technological advancements than nearly any other, the Middle East’s strongest democracy, Israel.


On campus however, Zionism has a very different meaning and connotation.

Identifying as a Zionist often results in being cursed at and told that you are not welcome on campus.

It can also lead to hate filled accusations of racism, fascism, genocide, or whatever else protestors can rhyme together.

Although Zionists are few and far in between on campuses across the country, this is not a result of animosity towards the Zionist ideology, but a lack of exposure to what Zionism really means.

What being a Zionist does not mean is supporting everything the Israeli government does, or everything Benjamin Netanyahu says.

There is no standardized political position held by all Zionists nor should there be.

You don’t support the construction of settlements in the disputed territories of the West Bank?
Great, you can still be a Zionist.


You believe that there should be a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? Wonderful, we’d love to hear your ideas.

Zionism does not advocate for the prioritization of Jewish citizens over Arab citizens of Israel or the separation of the two groups, but rather, strives for the Jewish people to have the basic right to coexist in peace.

Zionism is a movement dedicated to giving my [highlight]family and millions of others the basic right of self determination. It catalyzed the rebirth of the Jewish people from the ashes of the Holocaust,

advocated for people like my grandparents who were trapped in the Soviet Union, and gave my family a home in Israel where they were treated as full citizens for the first time.

To us, Israel symbolizes all that was lost and found, cried over and celebrated, saved and destroyed across the precarious journey of the Jewish people until their return home and the ultimate fulfillment of the Zionist dream.

If you support the right of families like mine to control their own futures, you’re already a Zionist. Author - Eliav Terk.


It's quite simple, Zionism is racist because it asserts that Jews have a greater entitlement to that land than the native Palestinians.

UN Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975, "Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination"  - later revoked under Zionist pressure.

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Reply #53 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:57pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:41pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:41am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 6:07pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 9:47am:
Israel wants peace. 


Bullcrap. Any Israeli leader who attempts to make peace is assassinated, like former PM Yitzhak Rabin.

Quote:
Unfortunately, Palestinians want to slaughter Jews. This is not Israel's fault. The Palestinians are just following Muhammad's example.


How many times must I show that is not true, before you will finally understand it?

Many times I've shown how Arabs and Jews lived in peace for centuries and centuries.

The trouble started with Zionism.




Past tense.  Roll Eyes

Zionism is not a problem nor the problem.

Changing it's true meaning to one of insult & a derogatory term is what the problem is ... & guess who is doing that ... besides you?

Quote:
Zionism is at its essence a movement advocating for the Jewish people’s right to self-determination.

Whether Jews were fleeing the Nazis in Europe, Arab dictatorships in the Middle East, or brutal crackdowns in Ethiopia, Zionism has always dedicated itself to preserving the lives and freedoms of Jews around the world.

The Zionist movement strives to provide the Jewish people a place in their historical homeland, where they can seek refuge from all types of persecution.

Zionism means supporting a country built by refugees and immigrants, a country which provides full rights for women and LGBT+ citizens, a country the size of New Jersey that has created more medical and technological advancements than nearly any other, the Middle East’s strongest democracy, Israel.


On campus however, Zionism has a very different meaning and connotation.

Identifying as a Zionist often results in being cursed at and told that you are not welcome on campus.

It can also lead to hate filled accusations of racism, fascism, genocide, or whatever else protestors can rhyme together.

Although Zionists are few and far in between on campuses across the country, this is not a result of animosity towards the Zionist ideology, but a lack of exposure to what Zionism really means.

What being a Zionist does not mean is supporting everything the Israeli government does, or everything Benjamin Netanyahu says.

There is no standardized political position held by all Zionists nor should there be.

You don’t support the construction of settlements in the disputed territories of the West Bank?
Great, you can still be a Zionist.


You believe that there should be a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? Wonderful, we’d love to hear your ideas.

Zionism does not advocate for the prioritization of Jewish citizens over Arab citizens of Israel or the separation of the two groups, but rather, strives for the Jewish people to have the basic right to coexist in peace.

Zionism is a movement dedicated to giving my [highlight]family and millions of others the basic right of self determination. It catalyzed the rebirth of the Jewish people from the ashes of the Holocaust,

advocated for people like my grandparents who were trapped in the Soviet Union, and gave my family a home in Israel where they were treated as full citizens for the first time.

To us, Israel symbolizes all that was lost and found, cried over and celebrated, saved and destroyed across the precarious journey of the Jewish people until their return home and the ultimate fulfillment of the Zionist dream.

If you support the right of families like mine to control their own futures, you’re already a Zionist. Author - Eliav Terk.


It's quite simple, Zionism is racist because it asserts that Jews have a greater entitlement to that land than the native Palestinians.

UN Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975, "Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination"  - later revoked under Zionist pressure.


By that logic, Aboriginal sovereignty is also wacist.
Any sovereignty is wacist.
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wombatwoody wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:41pm:
It's quite simple, Zionism is
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Native and descendants of Native
Jews have a
n
greater entitlement to that land than
alongside
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UN Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975, "Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination"  - later revoked under Zionist pressure. 
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Reply #55 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 5:58pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:57pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:41pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:41am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 6:07pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 9:47am:
Israel wants peace. 


Bullcrap. Any Israeli leader who attempts to make peace is assassinated, like former PM Yitzhak Rabin.

Quote:
Unfortunately, Palestinians want to slaughter Jews. This is not Israel's fault. The Palestinians are just following Muhammad's example.


How many times must I show that is not true, before you will finally understand it?

Many times I've shown how Arabs and Jews lived in peace for centuries and centuries.

The trouble started with Zionism.




Past tense.  Roll Eyes

Zionism is not a problem nor the problem.

Changing it's true meaning to one of insult & a derogatory term is what the problem is ... & guess who is doing that ... besides you?

Quote:
Zionism is at its essence a movement advocating for the Jewish people’s right to self-determination.

Whether Jews were fleeing the Nazis in Europe, Arab dictatorships in the Middle East, or brutal crackdowns in Ethiopia, Zionism has always dedicated itself to preserving the lives and freedoms of Jews around the world.

The Zionist movement strives to provide the Jewish people a place in their historical homeland, where they can seek refuge from all types of persecution.

Zionism means supporting a country built by refugees and immigrants, a country which provides full rights for women and LGBT+ citizens, a country the size of New Jersey that has created more medical and technological advancements than nearly any other, the Middle East’s strongest democracy, Israel.


On campus however, Zionism has a very different meaning and connotation.

Identifying as a Zionist often results in being cursed at and told that you are not welcome on campus.

It can also lead to hate filled accusations of racism, fascism, genocide, or whatever else protestors can rhyme together.

Although Zionists are few and far in between on campuses across the country, this is not a result of animosity towards the Zionist ideology, but a lack of exposure to what Zionism really means.

What being a Zionist does not mean is supporting everything the Israeli government does, or everything Benjamin Netanyahu says.

There is no standardized political position held by all Zionists nor should there be.

You don’t support the construction of settlements in the disputed territories of the West Bank?
Great, you can still be a Zionist.


You believe that there should be a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? Wonderful, we’d love to hear your ideas.

Zionism does not advocate for the prioritization of Jewish citizens over Arab citizens of Israel or the separation of the two groups, but rather, strives for the Jewish people to have the basic right to coexist in peace.

Zionism is a movement dedicated to giving my [highlight]family and millions of others the basic right of self determination. It catalyzed the rebirth of the Jewish people from the ashes of the Holocaust,

advocated for people like my grandparents who were trapped in the Soviet Union, and gave my family a home in Israel where they were treated as full citizens for the first time.

To us, Israel symbolizes all that was lost and found, cried over and celebrated, saved and destroyed across the precarious journey of the Jewish people until their return home and the ultimate fulfillment of the Zionist dream.

If you support the right of families like mine to control their own futures, you’re already a Zionist. Author - Eliav Terk.


It's quite simple, Zionism is racist because it asserts that Jews have a greater entitlement to that land than the native Palestinians.

UN Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975, "Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination"  - later revoked under Zionist pressure.


By that logic, Aboriginal sovereignty is also wacist.
Any sovereignty is wacist.


Aborigines have no sovereignty and had no First Nations - Franks showed us that from the Truly Awake lady down in Occupied Fortress Melbadishu  .... no point of relevance..
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Frank wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:57pm:
Any sovereignty is wacist.


By that logic every nation should have open borders, allowing anybody from anywhere into their country - with rare exceptions for preventing terrorism or the spread of contagious diseases.
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Reply #58 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:34pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 5:45pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:41pm:
It's quite simple, Zionism is
not
racist because it asserts that
Native and descendants of Native
Jews have a
n
greater entitlement to that land than
alongside
the native Palestinians
, as they attempte to achieve.


UN Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975, "Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination"  - later revoked under Zionist pressure. 
That's all you need to know.





"Native and descendants of Native Jews"  - The overwhelming majority of Israelis are descendants of European Jews and as such not native to that land.

"That's all you need to know."

Zionist pressure: i.e. bribery, blackmail, corruption and all the rest:

...



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Reply #59 - Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:46pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:31pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:57pm:
Any sovereignty is wacist.


By that logic every nation should have open borders, allowing anybody from anywhere into their country - with rare exceptions for preventing terrorism or the spread of contagious diseases.

I was applying YOUR logic - which you now seem to repudiate.


Make up your mind.


The Palestinians themselves are occupiers, like ALL Muslims outside Araby, from North Africa to India.

If chronology is significant - as in First "Nations" - then Jewish presence in Israel trumps ANY Muslim, Arab, Palestinian claim. The Jews were there BEFORE the Muslim conquerors.

Why are Muslim conquests more acceptable than Jewish reconquests?

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tallowood wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 12:01pm:
from the river to the sea
no Arabs can be seen.

Because Arabia for Arabs.


There were Jews and Christians in Arabia what happened to them?

Was this an example of ethnic cleansing of non muslim Arabs?

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https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:1606

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Hate propagators Bvr, Yadda, Chimera, Grappler, and Gordon are being castigated for their silence by Juda Goat FleaDriver.


Do you need a translation?


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Bvr has slithered out of his garage.

Bvr is one of the most intensive supporters of genocide on Ozpolitic.
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Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:17pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:05pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Gnads is furious he wasn't labeled as one of the wethers. Gnads has put his balls on the line.



At the very least I have balls ... where's yours?

Fell off with the rubber ring?


Gnads, your application to be appointed Judas Goat of the Ozpolitic wethers is rejected.

FleaDriver has seized that role.

Gnads, you have been accused of excessive manual manipulation of your assets to improperly enrich yourself.



Accusation denied as you own that role.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:34pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:05pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Gnads is furious he wasn't labeled as one of the wethers. Gnads has put his balls on the line.


At the very least I have balls ... where's yours?

Fell off with the rubber ring?


Harsh.

Have you ever tried chemical castration? Your response implies that you need to give that a go.


Now where did you get that batshyte crazed idea?

Don't tell me ... chemically induced hallucinations?
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Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:50pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:34pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:05pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Gnads is furious he wasn't labeled as one of the wethers. Gnads has put his balls on the line.


At the very least I have balls ... where's yours?

Fell off with the rubber ring?


Harsh.

Have you ever tried chemical castration? Your response implies that you need to give that a go.


Gands would lose half his body weight if he self-castrated.

Gnads is a weasely little bleater less than 150 cm in height who has no assets to boast of other than his appendages.


183cm clown - you?    & no where nearly as slimy a weasel as yourself.
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Gnads wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:40pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:34pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:05pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Gnads is furious he wasn't labeled as one of the wethers. Gnads has put his balls on the line.


At the very least I have balls ... where's yours?

Fell off with the rubber ring?


Harsh.

Have you ever tried chemical castration? Your response implies that you need to give that a go.


Now where did you get that batshyte crazed idea?

Don't tell me ... chemically induced hallucinations?


Gnads is emotionally and intellectually self-castrated.
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wombatwoody wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:41pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:41am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 6:07pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2024 at 9:47am:
Israel wants peace. 


Bullcrap. Any Israeli leader who attempts to make peace is assassinated, like former PM Yitzhak Rabin.

Quote:
Unfortunately, Palestinians want to slaughter Jews. This is not Israel's fault. The Palestinians are just following Muhammad's example.


How many times must I show that is not true, before you will finally understand it?

Many times I've shown how Arabs and Jews lived in peace for centuries and centuries.

The trouble started with Zionism.




Past tense.  Roll Eyes

Zionism is not a problem nor the problem.

Changing it's true meaning to one of insult & a derogatory term is what the problem is ... & guess who is doing that ... besides you?

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Zionism is at its essence a movement advocating for the Jewish people’s right to self-determination.

Whether Jews were fleeing the Nazis in Europe, Arab dictatorships in the Middle East, or brutal crackdowns in Ethiopia, Zionism has always dedicated itself to preserving the lives and freedoms of Jews around the world.

The Zionist movement strives to provide the Jewish people a place in their historical homeland, where they can seek refuge from all types of persecution.

Zionism means supporting a country built by refugees and immigrants, a country which provides full rights for women and LGBT+ citizens, a country the size of New Jersey that has created more medical and technological advancements than nearly any other, the Middle East’s strongest democracy, Israel.


On campus however, Zionism has a very different meaning and connotation.

Identifying as a Zionist often results in being cursed at and told that you are not welcome on campus.

It can also lead to hate filled accusations of racism, fascism, genocide, or whatever else protestors can rhyme together.

Although Zionists are few and far in between on campuses across the country, this is not a result of animosity towards the Zionist ideology, but a lack of exposure to what Zionism really means.

What being a Zionist does not mean is supporting everything the Israeli government does, or everything Benjamin Netanyahu says.

There is no standardized political position held by all Zionists nor should there be.

You don’t support the construction of settlements in the disputed territories of the West Bank?
Great, you can still be a Zionist.


You believe that there should be a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? Wonderful, we’d love to hear your ideas.

Zionism does not advocate for the prioritization of Jewish citizens over Arab citizens of Israel or the separation of the two groups, but rather, strives for the Jewish people to have the basic right to coexist in peace.

Zionism is a movement dedicated to giving my [highlight]family and millions of others the basic right of self determination. It catalyzed the rebirth of the Jewish people from the ashes of the Holocaust,

advocated for people like my grandparents who were trapped in the Soviet Union, and gave my family a home in Israel where they were treated as full citizens for the first time.

To us, Israel symbolizes all that was lost and found, cried over and celebrated, saved and destroyed across the precarious journey of the Jewish people until their return home and the ultimate fulfillment of the Zionist dream.

If you support the right of families like mine to control their own futures, you’re already a Zionist. Author - Eliav Terk.


It's quite simple, Zionism is racist because it asserts that Jews have a greater entitlement to that land than the native Palestinians.

UN Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975, "Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination"  - later revoked under Zionist pressure.



And that's the woke wanker leftoid hemorrhoid's definition .... and it's wrong. As it is whenever they play the race card to push their lefty agenda.

The Jews/Israelis are as native to that region as any Palestinian (a made up demographic) because they are a mix of Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, and Anatolian peoples in ancient times ....... just like the Jews.

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Reply #68 - Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:51pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:43pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:40pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:34pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 12:05pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Gnads is furious he wasn't labeled as one of the wethers. Gnads has put his balls on the line.


At the very least I have balls ... where's yours?

Fell off with the rubber ring?


Harsh.

Have you ever tried chemical castration? Your response implies that you need to give that a go.


Now where did you get that batshyte crazed idea?

Don't tell me ... chemically induced hallucinations?


Gnads is emotionally and intellectually self-castrated.


Says a self loathing terrorist supporting POS.
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Reply #69 - Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:54pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:34pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 5:45pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:41pm:
It's quite simple, Zionism is
not
racist because it asserts that
Native and descendants of Native
Jews have a
n
greater entitlement to that land than
alongside
the native Palestinians
, as they attempte to achieve.


UN Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975, "Determines that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination"  - later revoked under Zionist pressure. 
That's all you need to know.





"Native and descendants of Native Jews"  - The overwhelming majority of Israelis are descendants of European Jews and as such not native to that land.

"That's all you need to know."

Zionist pressure: i.e. bribery, blackmail, corruption and all the rest:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/steinerresigns.jpg





Grin You clown how did those Jews get into Europe?

Wouldn't have been because they fled because of persecution & being driven out of the ME by Islamic rulers?

Your historical time lines are very biased.
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Gnads wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:54pm:
Grin You clown how did those Jews get into Europe?

Wouldn't have been because they fled because of persecution & being driven out of the ME by Islamic rulers?

Your historical time lines are very biased.


European Jews are of European origin. They are genetically related to M-E Jews.

They became Jews by conversion and procreation.

There are brown Jews and there are white Jews. The brown Jews are M-E related, the others are not.

If Israeli Jews did not have an external threat they would be fighting each other.
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Please don't move this thread to the fringe too...  It seems to have become the dumping ground for ltyc's rants that have nothing to do with conspiracy theories.
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Frank wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:46pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 9:31pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 9th, 2024 at 4:57pm:
Any sovereignty is wacist.


By that logic every nation should have open borders, allowing anybody from anywhere into their country - with rare exceptions for preventing terrorism or the spread of contagious diseases.

I was applying YOUR logic - which you now seem to repudiate.



Huh? You mentioned the abos, an invalid comparison, so I chose not to respond to that and instead commented on your sovereignty claim. Now you bring this up. WTF?


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The Palestinians themselves are occupiers, like ALL Muslims outside Araby, from North Africa to India.

If chronology is significant - as in First "Nations" - then Jewish presence in Israel trumps ANY Muslim, Arab, Palestinian claim. The Jews were there BEFORE the Muslim conquerors.


What are you on about? Palestine was inhabited long before Islam came into being.


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Reply #73 - Sep 10th, 2024 at 5:40pm
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:50pm:
The Jews/Israelis are as native to that region as any Palestinian (a made up demographic) because they are a mix of Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, and Anatolian peoples in ancient times ....... just like the Jews.



Learn some history:

https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2024/01/04/history-of-palestine/
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SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 4:09pm:
Please don't move this thread to the fringe too...  It seems to have become the dumping ground for ltyc's rants that have nothing to do with conspiracy theories.


Don't jump Sad Skippy.

Smile. Things could be worse.
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Gnads wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:54pm:
how did those Jews get into Europe?

Wouldn't have been because they fled because of persecution & being driven out of the ME by Islamic rulers?


Your ignorance is showing.

See Arthur Koestler's The Thirteenth Tribe.
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wombatwoody wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 5:40pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:50pm:
The Jews/Israelis are as native to that region as any Palestinian (a made up demographic) because they are a mix of Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, and Anatolian peoples in ancient times ....... just like the Jews.



Learn some history:

https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2024/01/04/history-of-palestine/


Jewish state long pre-existed any Arab state.

Israel isn't going away - now all Hamas has to do is give up the fight they've lost, and accept justice for their criminals.  If it were up to me - and I don't believe in the death penalty - the vilest criminals would be strung up on every lamp post along the ocean front, and left for the birds.

The Romans had some good ideas ...

BTW - if all the European Jews were non-ethnic Hebrew - why did and do they have identifying characteristics of Hebrews that permitted them to be picked out of a crowd?
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Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 7:32pm:
BTW - if all the European Jews were non-ethnic Hebrew - why did and do they have identifying characteristics of Hebrews that permitted them to be picked out of a crowd?


Nose? Grappler picked it?
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wombatwoody wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 5:40pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 12:50pm:
The Jews/Israelis are as native to that region as any Palestinian (a made up demographic) because they are a mix of Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, and Anatolian peoples in ancient times ....... just like the Jews.



Learn some history:

https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2024/01/04/history-of-palestine/


A lefty journalist with the same notions as you.

Judaism is the oldest of the monotheistic
faiths in the Abrahamic tradition which include Christianity and Islam.

It predates Islam by nearly 2,400 years.

They have as much right if not more to a homeland in the ME as Muslim Palestinians do.
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Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 10th, 2024 at 7:32pm:
Jewish state long pre-existed any Arab state.



'genetic research has indicated that the Palestinians are descended from Canaanites who were living in the area before any kingdom of Israel ever existed.'


https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2024/01/04/history-of-palestine/

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Gnads wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 10:27am:
A lefty journalist


Which has no bearing on his presentation of historical facts.

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They have no right to deny the Palestinians' basic human right to self-determination.
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Gnads wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 10:27am:
A lefty journalist


Which has no bearing on his presentation of historical facts.

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They have as much right if not more to a homeland


They have no right to deny the Palestinians' basic human right to self-determination.


His presentation of his historical facts.

And the Palestinians have no right to deny Jews the right to exist in their homelands of the ME i.e. Israel.

They want to drive them into the sea. So I say f#@k them & f#@k those who support them...

especially the scum protesters on our streets waving Palestinian flags & wearing their clothing & terrorist Hamas headgear.
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Gnads wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 9:36pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 10:27am:
A lefty journalist


Which has no bearing on his presentation of historical facts.

Quote:
They have as much right if not more to a homeland


They have no right to deny the Palestinians' basic human right to self-determination.


His presentation of his historical facts.

And the Palestinians have no right to deny Jews the right to exist in their homelands of the ME i.e. Israel.

They want to drive them into the sea. So I say f#@k them & f#@k those who support them...

especially the scum protesters on our streets waving Palestinian flags & wearing their clothing & terrorist Hamas headgear.


The real Jewish homeland is New York.
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Gnads wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
His presentation of his historical facts.



So back up that claim and give examples.

I doubt you'll be able to, as Jeremy R. Hammond is an independent political analyst and recipient of the Project Censored Award for Outstanding Investigative Journalism.
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Gnads wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
And the Palestinians have no right to deny Jews the right to exist in their homelands of the ME i.e. Israel.

They want to drive them into the sea.



If there were no illegal occupation, no decades-long dispossession, siege and horrific crimes committed against them, they wouldn't feel that way.

Even so, when the PLO renounced terrorism and openly began supporting the idea of a two-state solution in the late 1980s, Israel encouraged the rise of Hamas as a counterweight. So Israel is preventing peace, not the Palestinians.

"In January 1976, the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) offered to negotiate the terms of this "two-state" consensus. With Washington’s support, Israel refused the good-faith Palestinian proposal. Choosing expansion over peace, it has done so ever since.

"... critics dismiss the 1976 peace initiative, arguing that the fratricidal Lebanese civil war rendered Palestinian recognition of Israel unthinkable. Yet the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) discerned that Arafat was “willing and able” to deliver - the 1976 initiative was not an aberration, but began a deluge of Palestinian two-state proposals, in 1977, 1979, 1980 and 1982."

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Reply #85 - Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:23am
 
Not me - I'm just looking into this strand for a laugh at the Usual Suspects and their antics.

The Arabs started it - they lose every time.... this time Israel needs to put the knee to the throat once and for all, and drive them back beyond a safe barrier.

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Reply #86 - Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:34am
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
And the Palestinians have no right to deny Jews the right to exist in their homelands of the ME i.e. Israel.



You're such a hypocrite. You cry that you are entitled to push back against Aborigines claiming you stole their land, then cry the Palestinians have no right to push back for Israel stealing their land.

consistently inconsistent
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Reply #87 - Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:45am
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:34am:
Gnads wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
And the Palestinians have no right to deny Jews the right to exist in their homelands of the ME i.e. Israel.



You're such a hypocrite. You cry that you are entitled to push back against Aborigines claiming you stole their land, then cry the Palestinians have no right to push back for Israel stealing their land.

consistently inconsistent


No connection.... too many falsehoods and ideological truths in ideology only.  Saying NO to demands is not 'pushing back' - only an aggressor would suggest that this is indeed some sort of contest... I say NO BTW - but oooh, ooh, you can't tolerate being told NO...... nobody stole their land - all they ever did was walk on it and kill the wildlife for lunch and died young .... now they can eat a burger in Macca's for a miniscule of the energy used and whine about their longer lifestyle and inability to own a mansion without work .....  Arabs stole Hebrew land - were booted out properly.... can't even get on with their neighbours.... started a blue over it and like the Abos lost the blue and then cried all day and night, and stabbed people in the back.

So much there to unpack for you, Smith... I stole that phrase from Mothra - hshe's good at empty phrases that make it sound as if hshe actually knows what hshe's doing. Mothra is an Internet Wandering Star - I came across hsher on another forum!!!  different name... same                                           knowledge of the world  (that's empty, FYI).
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No connection.



only because you think you're spppppecccial
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John Smith wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:46am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:45am:
No connection.



only because you think you're spppppecccial


Ah, my son - there are many 'special' types here - I am just a modest know-all with no tickets on self - though there is a rush of people to try to apply them to me...........

Perhaps you could explain to us what the connection is between the Arabs (there are no Palestinians) and the Abos.... other than their silly shoulder chips... their endless need to pick a fight... their ceaseless whining ... their unwillingness to actively participate ... jeez - I'd better leave you something.

I really must learn to give you lot agency by not making fools of you, but letting you do it for yourselves.  Me bad ...

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there are no Palestinians)



what a stupid comment

If there are no Palestinians, there are no Aussies

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The US armed forces would laugh their heads off at that racist bullsh
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You should be removed for hate speech.

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Phi Phi Island, southern Thailand:
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Reply #94 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 7:03am
 
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The US armed forces would laugh their heads off at that racist bullshit



You ignorant fool.

How many Americans were killed in Iraq? Thousands.

Iraq was invaded not for the USA's security but for Israel's. Philip Zelikow, one of the top Bush neocons, admitted this:


"Third. The unstated threat. And here I criticise the [Bush] administration a little, because the argument that they make over and over again is that this is about a threat to the United States. And then everybody says: Show me, why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us?’ So I’ll tell you what I think the real threat is, and actually has been since 1990. It’s the threat against Israel. And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don’t care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn’t want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it’s not a popular sell."

https://observer.com/2006/05/the-smoking-transcript/


'The “Clean Break” paper that Perle, Feith, and Meyrav Wurmser wrote for Netanyahu in 1996 called for the overthrow of Iraq, Syria and Iran, which Mearsheimer and Walt mention. The “Project for a New American Century,” was another document drawn up by pro-Israel Jewish neocons. The Office of Special Plans, set up by Feith and run by another Jewish neocon, Abe Shulsky, was directed to provide the phony intelligence that would justify the invasion when the CIA staff was not prepared to do it. '

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'(I)t is worth noting that a number of knowledgeable and well-respected individuals have said openly that the war was linked with Israel's security. Philip Zelikow, a member of the presi­dent's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (2001-03), executive director of the 9/11 Commission, and counselor to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (2005-06), told a University of Virginia audience on September 10, 2002, that Saddam was not a direct threat to the United States. "The real threat," he argued, is "the threat against Israel." He went on to say, "And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don't care deeply about that threat . . . And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell."

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'A few weeks before the United States invaded Iraq, the journalist Joe Klein wrote in Time magazine, "A stronger Israel is very much embedded in the rationale for war with Iraq. It is a part of the argument that dare not speak its name, a fantasy quietly cherished by the neo-conservative faction in the Bush Administration and by many leaders of the American Jewish community."

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'A handful of other public figures — Patrick Buchanan, Arnaud de Borchgrave, Maureen Dowd, Géorgie Anne Geyer, Gary Hart, Chris Matthews, Congressman James P. Moran (D-VA), Robert Novak, Tim Russert, and General Anthony Zinni — either said or strongly hinted that pro-Israel hard­ liners in the United States were the principal movers behind the Iraq war. In Novak's case, he referred to the war well before it happened as "Sharon's war" and continues to do so today. "I am convinced," he said in April 2007, "that Israel made a large contribution to the decision to embark on this war. I know that on the eve of the war, Sharon said, in a closed conversation with senators, that if they could succeed in getting rid of Saddam Hussein, it would solve Israel's security problems." '

  -- John J. Mearsheimer & Stephen M. Walt: The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy; Chapter 8: Iraq and Dreams of Transforming the Middle East



Thousands of Americans died in Iraq, a war waged for Israel.

Which shows that that meme is accurate.

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wombatwoody wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 7:23pm:
Phi Phi Island, southern Thailand:

The resident Thai population of Phi Phi Don remains more than 80 percent Muslim.
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chimera wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 9:41am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 7:23pm:
Phi Phi Island, southern Thailand:

The resident Thai population of Phi Phi Don remains more than 80 percent Muslim.


Israeli Jew population zero. Portent of Greater Palestine's future?
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chimera wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 9:41am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 7:23pm:
Phi Phi Island, southern Thailand:

The resident Thai population of Phi Phi Don remains more than 80 percent Muslim.


Perfect gulag/Isolation Ward/Ward C ...
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wombatwoody wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 7:23pm:
Phi Phi Island, southern Thailand:


Did-ums - I can just see the Israelis lining up to visit such a dump.  Anyway - a decent prisoner exchange with the Thai mainland, make it 100% Muslim and clear all those non-Muslims off... taking Muslim homes and land on the mainland and vice versa - and easy to isolate or dispose of at will.

"Herro, Mistah Tlump - this Plesident Hoo Phukt Yu of Thailand - can  borrow flight of B-52 one day only?"

Hmmmm - seems like a cold draught in here every time Laughing Boy and his bed-mate woody show up...... lots of jokes... fun to be had ... plenty of piste to be taken....

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chimera wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 9:41am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 7:23pm:
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The resident Thai population of Phi Phi Don remains more than 80 percent Muslim.


Most if not all hotels, resorts, backpacker hostels and other tourist establishments there are not Muslim owned.
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wombatwoody wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 5:44pm:
chimera wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 9:41am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 7:23pm:
Phi Phi Island, southern Thailand:

The resident Thai population of Phi Phi Don remains more than 80 percent Muslim.


Most if not all hotels, resorts, backpacker hostels and other tourist establishments there are not Muslim owned.


See - Muslims just don't got the mental gonads for business and hard work...
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Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 6:19pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 5:44pm:
chimera wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 9:41am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 7:23pm:
Phi Phi Island, southern Thailand:

The resident Thai population of Phi Phi Don remains more than 80 percent Muslim.


Most if not all hotels, resorts, backpacker hostels and other tourist establishments there are not Muslim owned.


See - Muslims just don't got the mental gonads for business and hard work...


Muslims own GTTF.
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Reply #102 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 8:01pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 6:19pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 5:44pm:
chimera wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 9:41am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 7:23pm:
Phi Phi Island, southern Thailand:

The resident Thai population of Phi Phi Don remains more than 80 percent Muslim.


Most if not all hotels, resorts, backpacker hostels and other tourist establishments there are not Muslim owned.


See - Muslims just don't got the mental gonads for business and hard work...


Another ignorant comment .
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Reply #103 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 9:11pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 8:01pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 6:19pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 5:44pm:
chimera wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 9:41am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 7:23pm:
Phi Phi Island, southern Thailand:

The resident Thai population of Phi Phi Don remains more than 80 percent Muslim.


Most if not all hotels, resorts, backpacker hostels and other tourist establishments there are not Muslim owned.


See - Muslims just don't got the mental gonads for business and hard work...


Another ignorant comment .


Conning, cheating, manipulating, intimidating... yeah ... work for a dollar - nah - Allah will take care of that..... look at the dates on the trees.. they labour not and yet they fall for us.... the camels work not in the fields, eh?  Islam conquered those areas by the sword centuries ago - it is now the 21st Century and time for the peoples there to shake off their shackles....

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Reply #104 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 9:19pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 7:28pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 6:19pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 5:44pm:
chimera wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 9:41am:
wombatwoody wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 7:23pm:
Phi Phi Island, southern Thailand:

The resident Thai population of Phi Phi Don remains more than 80 percent Muslim.


Most if not all hotels, resorts, backpacker hostels and other tourist establishments there are not Muslim owned.


See - Muslims just don't got the mental gonads for business and hard work...


Muslims own GTTF.


More like hold a monopoly on FITH .....
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