aquascoot wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:58pm:



No. Frank earnestly belittles himself.

Were you a man of integrity, you would acknowledge this.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 9^th, 2024 at 11:23pm:


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That would have been nice, but the moderators did that instead of Harris.

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That's exactly what happened.

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He didn't talk about Biden a lot, but when he did he needed reminding, by Harris, that he's running against her, not Biden.

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Kudos to him for actually showing up.

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Harris did that.

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We never got an answer from Bob, and he confirmed what we already knew, Trump won in his mind, and had won before the debate even started.

That's why he went to such great lengths not to set any goalposts for Trump's performance and then be bound by them.

It was a good debate.  I would have liked to see more talk about policy, more fact checks and less debunked rally style conspiracy rants, but his people need that from him and I don't think he's got the policy platform ready to debate any other way, especially now that he has to lie about not adopting the goals of Project 2025.

I guess he does have a policy platform after all, just not once he can admit to.

Yeah.

The debate went pretty much exactly as I expected, and the response from the Trump faithful is going exactly as I expected.

ABC are the enemy, it was 3 on 1, Trump was flawless and owned Harris etc.

But only those who already support Trump will see it that way.

The undecided voters will be disgusted by his performance and impressed by Harris.

That should be sending chills down the spines of Trump's team.

It will be interesting to see the polling in 7-10 days time if Harris gets a bump out of this and retains it.

But generally, the debates are pointless.  The only people who are about them have already made up their minds.

Case in point,

Bobby. wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 12:40pm:


It is impossible to come away from that thinking Trump aced it.  He made plenty of mistakes and Harris bested him.

But that won't stop his adoring and infatuated fans.

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 3:23pm:


Yeah, that's why Bidden was defenestrated  after his debate performance by his until-then adoring cheer squad. 

Your powers of observation and analysis are like Bbwiyawn's and Smith's,  Ducky's and TGD's.

Karnal wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:22pm:


This is your usually stupid and lazy, moronically simplistic trope.

Do I believe that Haiti is a hellhole and, say, Singapore isn't? Absolutely.
Do I think it has to do with the people inhabiting those countries, their values and culture? Absolutely.
Do I notice that Haitian are Africans and Singaporeans aren't. Everyone does.
Would Singapore be still a successful island nation if it's population was replaced by Haitians. Of course not. It would turn into a hellhole.

Are there admirable, successful, exemplary persons of African origin. Of course, many.  Is that because of their race or because of their culture and values. Obviously the latter.

mothra wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 3:37pm:



Why was he shoved out of the way after the debate, even though he said, even after the debate, that he would run?
In favour of a meritless DEI appointee - coloured, female - who had ZERO votes in the previous Democratic primaries and who has been a totally incompetent, laughable airhead of a VP to Bidden.

Because the charade could no longer be kept up. He has been a moth eaten sock puppet for years, shielded by his staff and the sycophantic Big Media.  EVEN an incomepetent, laughable airhead was judged to be preferable to the SITTING PRESIDENT OF THE US.

mothra wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 3:37pm:

You can be sure he didn't stand down voluntarily.

Biden himself hinted at this when he commented in his stepping-down speech, "I believe my record as president, my leadership in the world, my vision for America's future, all merited a second term".

The Democrats' mega-donors had him stood down, or they'd pull their funding.