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Question: Who won the second debate?

Harris    
  13 (68.4%)
Trump    
  6 (31.6%)




Total votes: 19
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Reply #180 - Sep 14th, 2024 at 5:04pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 1:10pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 12:59pm:
As with the assassination attempt on Trump, so with the Harris-Trump debate: it will be forgotten within a week and have little to no effect on the election outcome.

As Lichtman predicts, it will be an election victory for Harris whether or not she won this debate, (and whether or not there will be another debate), even if Trump won, or was perceived to have won, both.


It will only be forgotten if Trump drops the racist cats and dogs claim.

If he keeps it going, it will keep the loss of the debate fresh in everyone minds.

Given he has nothing else in his campaign, certainly no policy, maybe a concept of a plan on healthcare, I don't see him dropping it as a talking point.

His base certainly won't.  The racists in his base are loving it and the feedback loop on Truth Social will mean he will think it's a winning move.


That's right, Sad. All Mr Trump has to do is say, look, I just said that thing about refugees coming over, sneaking into people's backyards and stealing their pets to eat. I didn't really mean it, it was a dumb thing to say, I'm sorry.

All Mr Trump has to do is say that. We'll forgive, forget and move on. Problem solved.

There's just one thing, dear. What kind of whack job would say it in the first place?

DEEP STATE !!!
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Reply #181 - Sep 14th, 2024 at 8:48pm
 
Your arguments are just a bunch of noise.


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Reply #182 - Sep 14th, 2024 at 8:51pm
 

The debate summed up:

- Rapist = nil

- Prosecutor = 1

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Reply #183 - Sep 14th, 2024 at 8:57pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 8:51pm:
The debate summed up:

- Rapist = nil

- Prosecutor = 1


More like:

Archie Bunker - nil

Mary Tyler Moore - 1

The US presidential electoral process is a sitcom.
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Reply #184 - Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:03pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 8:51pm:
The debate summed up:

- Rapist = nil

- Prosecutor = 1




Tell us again. How much do you get payed to sit on this site and attack Americas last best hope?
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Reply #185 - Sep 14th, 2024 at 10:27pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 8:51pm:
The debate summed up:

- Rapist = nil

- Prosecutor = 1




Tell us again. How much do you get payed to sit on this site and attack Americas last best hope?


Oh look, mort is projecting again, do you really think your propaganda will work mort, work to convince the undecided that trump is americas last great hope?
Give it up mort, the only people who would agree with you are trump cultists already.
Rational Americans have already seen how bad he was the first go around, thats why 81 million voters fired him  Grin Grin
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Re: The debate summed up
Reply #186 - Sep 14th, 2024 at 11:59pm
 
scope wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 10:27pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 8:51pm:
The debate summed up:

- Rapist = nil

- Prosecutor = 1




Tell us again. How much do you get payed to sit on this site and attack Americas last best hope?


Oh look, mort is projecting again, do you really think your propaganda will work mort, work to convince the undecided that trump is americas last great hope?
Give it up mort, the only people who would agree with you are trump cultists already.
Rational Americans have already seen how bad he was the first go around, thats why 81 million voters fired him  Grin Grin



The Marxist prostitutor will be the end of us! Lets have the courts once again say they will not look at illegally cast votes because the charge does not have "standing". No one ever proved or said all those 81 million votes were cast by 81 million legal voters.
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Reply #187 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 12:21am
 


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Just spoke with Lindsey Graham in the spin room he said the debate team should be fired and Trump was unprepared. “disaster”


https://x.com/Timodc/status/1833703484853465194
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Re: The debate summed up
Reply #188 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 9:22am
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 5:04pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 1:10pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 12:59pm:
As with the assassination attempt on Trump, so with the Harris-Trump debate: it will be forgotten within a week and have little to no effect on the election outcome.

As Lichtman predicts, it will be an election victory for Harris whether or not she won this debate, (and whether or not there will be another debate), even if Trump won, or was perceived to have won, both.


It will only be forgotten if Trump drops the racist cats and dogs claim.

If he keeps it going, it will keep the loss of the debate fresh in everyone minds.

Given he has nothing else in his campaign, certainly no policy, maybe a concept of a plan on healthcare, I don't see him dropping it as a talking point.

His base certainly won't.  The racists in his base are loving it and the feedback loop on Truth Social will mean he will think it's a winning move.


That's right, Sad. All Mr Trump has to do is say, look, I just said that thing about refugees coming over, sneaking into people's backyards and stealing their pets to eat. I didn't really mean it, it was a dumb thing to say, I'm sorry.

All Mr Trump has to do is say that. We'll forgive, forget and move on. Problem solved.

There's just one thing, dear. What kind of whack job would say it in the first place?

DEEP STATE !!!


His assertions are now being linked to bomb threats, forcing schools and hospitals into lockdown as a consequence of his lie. Additionally, he is currently claiming that there will be mass deportations of Haitians from Springfield back to Venezuela.

His evident cognitive decline renders it increasingly difficult to track the targets of his discriminatory rhetoric.

This is undoubtedly a troubling development.

He is decidedly doubling down on this claim, indicating that it will not simply dissipate. Each time he reiterates it, he underscores his failure in the debate, revealing that even the risk to children's lives in schools and the safety of hospital patients is not too steep a price in his efforts to sway public perception (that isn't working).
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Re: The debate summed up
Reply #189 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 9:53am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 11:59pm:
scope wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 10:27pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 8:51pm:
The debate summed up:

- Rapist = nil

- Prosecutor = 1




Tell us again. How much do you get payed to sit on this site and attack Americas last best hope?


Oh look, mort is projecting again, do you really think your propaganda will work mort, work to convince the undecided that trump is americas last great hope?
Give it up mort, the only people who would agree with you are trump cultists already.
Rational Americans have already seen how bad he was the first go around, thats why 81 million voters fired him  Grin Grin



The Marxist prostitutor will be the end of us! Lets have the courts once again say they will not look at illegally cast votes because the charge does not have "standing". No one ever proved or said all those 81 million votes were cast by 81 million legal voters.


You are funny mort ,just keep repeating trumps lies.
Those cases where heard in court, some where heard by trump appointed judges, so stop with the lies mort.

All of the cases brought were thrown out on lack of evidence mort.

Since then, the only people I have seen convicted of election fraud have been republicans, I wonder why that is? Roll Eyes
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Reply #190 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 10:26am
 

The debate summed up:

- Rapist = nil

- Prosecutor = 1
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Reply #191 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 10:28am
 
scope wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 9:53am:
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 11:59pm:
scope wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 10:27pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 9:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 8:51pm:
The debate summed up:

- Rapist = nil

- Prosecutor = 1




Tell us again. How much do you get payed to sit on this site and attack Americas last best hope?


Oh look, mort is projecting again, do you really think your propaganda will work mort, work to convince the undecided that trump is americas last great hope?
Give it up mort, the only people who would agree with you are trump cultists already.
Rational Americans have already seen how bad he was the first go around, thats why 81 million voters fired him  Grin Grin



The Marxist prostitutor will be the end of us! Lets have the courts once again say they will not look at illegally cast votes because the charge does not have "standing". No one ever proved or said all those 81 million votes were cast by 81 million legal voters.


You are funny mort ,just keep repeating trumps lies.
Those cases where heard in court, some where heard by trump appointed judges, so stop with the lies mort.

All of the cases brought were thrown out on lack of evidence mort.

Since then, the only people I have seen convicted of election fraud have been republicans, I wonder why that is? Roll Eyes


Indeed.

When the judges asked the rapist's legal team to present their evidence, they responded every time with: "We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence."
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Re: The debate summed up
Reply #192 - Sep 15th, 2024 at 5:43pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 15th, 2024 at 9:22am:
Karnal wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 5:04pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 1:10pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 14th, 2024 at 12:59pm:
As with the assassination attempt on Trump, so with the Harris-Trump debate: it will be forgotten within a week and have little to no effect on the election outcome.

As Lichtman predicts, it will be an election victory for Harris whether or not she won this debate, (and whether or not there will be another debate), even if Trump won, or was perceived to have won, both.


It will only be forgotten if Trump drops the racist cats and dogs claim.

If he keeps it going, it will keep the loss of the debate fresh in everyone minds.

Given he has nothing else in his campaign, certainly no policy, maybe a concept of a plan on healthcare, I don't see him dropping it as a talking point.

His base certainly won't.  The racists in his base are loving it and the feedback loop on Truth Social will mean he will think it's a winning move.


That's right, Sad. All Mr Trump has to do is say, look, I just said that thing about refugees coming over, sneaking into people's backyards and stealing their pets to eat. I didn't really mean it, it was a dumb thing to say, I'm sorry.

All Mr Trump has to do is say that. We'll forgive, forget and move on. Problem solved.

There's just one thing, dear. What kind of whack job would say it in the first place?

DEEP STATE !!!


His assertions are now being linked to bomb threats, forcing schools and hospitals into lockdown as a consequence of his lie. Additionally, he is currently claiming that there will be mass deportations of Haitians from Springfield back to Venezuela.

His evident cognitive decline renders it increasingly difficult to track the targets of his discriminatory rhetoric.

This is undoubtedly a troubling development.

He is decidedly doubling down on this claim, indicating that it will not simply dissipate. Each time he reiterates it, he underscores his failure in the debate, revealing that even the risk to children's lives in schools and the safety of hospital patients is not too steep a price in his efforts to sway public perception (that isn't working).


Sure, but he always said he was going to be the STORM, right?

You have to break a few eggs to make an omelette, Sad. Besides, the American people don't care about stuff like that. Another school shooting, a few dead illegals, some krappy town nobody's ever been to.

If it gives the white nationalists a cause to fight for, it can only be a good thing right? Good and bad on both sides is a false dichotomy, so 2018.

It's now us versus them.

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Reply #193 - Sep 17th, 2024 at 12:37pm
 

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.........  "Besides the fact that she's totally qualified, she's decent and confident – and democracy is at stake," said Tanya Brown, a 55-year-old social worker from Norristown, Pennsylvania, who plans to vote for Harris.
"I don't know if I can stomach another four years of this idiot," she said of Trump.
"It's just the uncouthness. You're constantly on edge."        .............


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Reply #194 - Sep 19th, 2024 at 8:04am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 7:10am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 7:04am:
ABC moderators ABSOLUTELY did their job! They held Trump to account on his innumerable lies. The only reason they didn't call out Harris much is because almost everything she said was the truth.

Well... she was not called out for taking certain comments out of context...

The 'bloodbath' comment for example. In context, it was a reference to Chinese trade being an economic 'bloodbath' if Trump lost the election... NOT a violent uprising resulting in a bloodbath.

Harris and the Democratic Party knew the context but have misrepresented that since Trump said it.

So the 'bloodbath' misrepresentation has now been raised multiple times since the debate by the media and (belatedly) by Trump himself - most recently on 'Piers Morgan Uncensored'.

The significance of Trump's missing the opportunity to take a wheel off Harris's debate wagon by calling her out on her conscious misrepresentation speaks to Trump's lack of discipline and inability as a debater.

Does it also speak to his inability to see beyond his immediate need for narcissistic supply when negotiating on the world stage with dictators who, over the last 9 years, have gained significant experience on how to manage him?

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