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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95290 Gender:	Re: The debate summed up Reply #30 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:51pm Any candidate who claims immigrants will eat your pets loses immediately. Not only does it show how out of touch they are with reality, but also their immigrant voters.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136424 Gender:	Re: The debate summed up Reply #31 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:56pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:47pm: The straw poll on Lichtman's live show, with over 7000 watchers voting, had Harris as the debate winner at 94% with Trump at 6%. 6% seems a little generous.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40700 Gender:	Re: The debate summed up Reply #32 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:05pm Taylor Swift Quote: ......... "I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them. I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos." ........
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40700 Gender:	Re: The debate summed up Reply #33 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:06pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:47pm: The straw poll on Lichtman's live show, with over 7000 watchers voting, had Harris as the debate winner at 94% with Trump at 6%. I thought trump did very well, I thought it was about evens
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Reply #34 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:07pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:05pm:

Taylor Swift

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......... "I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos."

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Well that's a hunk of votes.

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Reply #35 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:16pm

mothra wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:07pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:05pm:

Taylor Swift

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......... "I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos."

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Well that's a hunk of votes.

Sure is, as long as she can encourage them to get off their phones and go out and actually vote.

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Reply #36 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:16pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

The straw poll on Lichtman's live show, with over 7000 watchers voting, had Harris as the debate winner at 94% with Trump at 6%.

I thought trump did very well, I thought it was about evens

I'm sorry, but I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic. Trump lost, and he lost HUGE. He came across as an angry man - a VERY angry man. He offered no solutions, only lies and blaming the Democrats for everything - even a thinly veiled reference to his shooting. He did not answer a single question asked of him - not one. He was asked how he'd stop the Ukraine war - no answer. He was asked what his health care plan was and admitted point-blank he doesn't have one despite claiming he does at campaign rallies.

Harris obfuscated on some questions and could've offered more detail on others, but for the most part answered what was asked of her. Trump simply regurgitated his same tired old lies - lies that have been proven to be false over and over again, from his ridiculous claim the election was rigged to claims that Harris is for abortions AFTER the baby is born. Anyone not completely taken in by the MAGA cult with half a brain would've seen through his multitude of lies in that debate.

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Reply #37 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:18pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:05pm:

Taylor Swift

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......... "I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos."

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Gotta love how she signed off - "Childless Cat Lady" with a picture of her with a cat in her arms!!! A massive up yours to Vance. Grin

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Reply #38 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:16pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:07pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:05pm:

Taylor Swift

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......... "I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos."

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Well that's a hunk of votes.

Sure is, as long as she can encourage them to get off their phones and go out and actually vote.

If Tay-Tay can get even a fraction of her fan base to vote, it's a hunk of votes.

Didn't Trump try to claim here earlier?

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Reply #39 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:25pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:18pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:05pm:

Taylor Swift

Quote:

......... "I'm voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them.
I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos."

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Gotta love how she signed off - "Childless Cat Lady" with a picture of her with a cat in her arms!!! A massive up yours to Vance. Grin

LOVE IT!

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35240 Gender:	Re: The debate summed up Reply #40 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:27pm I wonder if Horseboy thinks the "childless cat lady" slur is as influential as "deplorable". I suspect his reasoning will be massively elastic.
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Reply #41 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:36pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:16pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:47pm:

The straw poll on Lichtman's live show, with over 7000 watchers voting, had Harris as the debate winner at 94% with Trump at 6%.

I thought trump did very well, I thought it was about evens

I'm sorry, but I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic. Trump lost, and he lost HUGE. He came across as an angry man - a VERY angry man. He offered no solutions, only lies and blaming the Democrats for everything - even a thinly veiled reference to his shooting. He did not answer a single question asked of him - not one. He was asked how he'd stop the Ukraine war - no answer. He was asked what his health care plan was and admitted point-blank he doesn't have one despite claiming he does at campaign rallies.

Harris obfuscated on some questions and could've offered more detail on others, but for the most part answered what was asked of her. Trump simply regurgitated his same tired old lies - lies that have been proven to be false over and over again, from his ridiculous claim the election was rigged to claims that Harris is for abortions AFTER the baby is born. Anyone not completely taken in by the MAGA cult with half a brain would've seen through his multitude of lies in that debate.

I am serious.
I greatly dislike him, but what he did would have appealed 100% to his cultists.
Keep in mind his lies are of no concern to many americans.
for them, the more he talks the better

by the american extrinsic culture, the more and the louder someone talks, the better.

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Reply #42 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:38pm

Harris waffled a little but the only real criticism i have of her is that she didn't effectively counter Trump on his screeches about late term abortions. Here she should have clearly recited the facts that such are performed in the main to save maternal life or spare unspeakable suffering to the foetus.

A missed opportunity on a critical issue.

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Reply #43 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:44pm

What was scary was how one-sided it ended up being.

Harris baited him repeatedly and he fell for it every time. And every time he fell for it, he got so furious that he'd start ranting about debunked conspiracy theories.

And if she was able to get under his skin so easily, it's no wonder the world leaders can so easily manipulate Trump.

That should be a warning sign for everyone considering voting for Trump.

He repeatedly lost his cool, he repeatedly had to resort to lies and conspiracies, and we're not even at the point of talking policy yet.

It should be a warning to those who may vote for him, but like Trump, they are as detached from reality as he is.

Harris did a great job, she was prepared and had a lot of ammunition waiting for the right time, like bringing his criminal record, and she executed it perfectly.

Trump talked about blacks eating dawgs, another debunked conspiracy.

I know the likes of Bobby and the other faithful crushing on Trump had decided he won before they even walked out on stage, but it's clear to anyone willing to be objective, Trump just doesn't have what it takes to be the President yet Harris does.

He didn't have to whine and raise her voice, yell at her opponent or the moderators and she came off as intelligent and prepared, not unhinged and crazy like Trump.

I look forward to the next debate, especially if it's on somewhere like Fox News so the excuse of bias that I keep seeing people use as an excuse for Trump's poor performance can't be used.

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Reply #44 - Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:47pm

mothra wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 2:38pm:

Harris waffled a little but the only real criticism i have of her is that she didn't effectively counter Trump on his screeches about late term abortions. Here she should have clearly recited the facts that such are performed in the main to save maternal life or spare unspeakable suffering to the foetus.

A missed opportunity on a critical issue.

It was. She wasn't perfect and she could have done a lot of things better, but nonetheless, her performance clearly outshone Trump.

It's funny that the places I've checked in to see how the Trump supporters are taking the loss, none of them are admitting that he didn't Win and going as far to say he made no mistakes and totally owned her.

They were always going to say that, but he clearly made some mistakes, even if they want to insist he won they should at least be able to acknowledge that, but they can't even do that.

They're so brainwashed they can't admit even the most obvious of mistakes or lies.

They're happy to accuse Harris of lying, but not a single admission that Trump did.

These people are impossible to have a rational discourse with.

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