So the second debate just finished. I think the winner is clear as day - Vice President Kamala Harris. She articulated her vision quite well. Yes, she obfuscated on a few questions, not really answering them. Trump, on the other hand, was all about how bad Biden is, how bad Harris is. How much better things were when he was President and how the country is supposedly in such turmoil now that he isn't President. But, and this is important, on the numerous occasions that he was asked to articulate a plan, or what he would do differently, or any of the questions where some detail was requested of him, he simply did not answer the question. Instead, he would go off on an angry rant riddled with blatant, debunked lies. The most bizarre was that they're eating dogs and cats! All that Trump did was regurgitate lies and that's exactly what I predicted he would do when I commented in another post.

Harris may have been short on details on some questions, but overall she did provide more detail in her answers than Trump, whose standard response can basically be summed up as Trump good, Harris bad. Not once did he offer any solutions. He admitted he has no plan to replace the Affordable Care Act (aka Obama Care), despite saying many times at his campaign rallies that he has a plan. He was asked point blank how he would stop the war in Ukraine and went off on a rant about how it never would've started in the first place. He did not answer that question, and to be frank, he didn't answer a single question with any detail other than to rant about how he thinks Biden/Harris are just bad. He also talked over the moderators numerous times - too many times. Harris did a couple of times too, but seemingly to get across a rebuttal to a bizarre statement/accusation Trump had just made.

In short, the winner was glaringly obvious, and it was Harris.

This is hilarious. It's from CNN...

Donald Trump’s campaign tried to claim victory before the end of the presidential debate Tuesday, with top Trump advisers Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles arguing that his performance was “masterful” and that he laid out a “bold vision of America.”

“We saw President Trump lay out his bold vision of America and how he would continue to build upon the successes of his first term by supercharging the economy, securing the border, and stopping crime from ravaging communities across the country,” Wiles and LaCivita said in a news release.

Sorry, but Trump didn't lay out a vision. He didn't lay out anything, other than lies. All he did was to claim America is in bad shape and it's the worst shape America has ever been in, the other guys caused it and regurgitated a slew of debunked lies in a vain attempt to justify his stance. But not once, and he was given many opportunities, did he offer a plan for how he would do this or that better or differently than Harris.

I think his lie count will be over 200.
If he repeats the same lie 3 times, that is 3 lies

Harris wiped the floor with him. He was left looking like a petulant child.

Unfortunately, being a petulant child is not a deal breaker for the American people in who they will vote for.

I've lost all but a glimmer of hope that reason will prevail.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:10pm:



He didn't answer a single question.

Not one.

He ranted instead.

Yanks don't want reasoned debate.

They're addicted to circuses and comedy.

Sad that the rest of the free world has to live with a president elected by 50,000 white-trash in 6 states.

mothra wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:10pm:


Harris was the clear winner. It's just a fact. She won convincingly. Sadly though, you're right. Trump supporters will still vote for him no matter what. He could've sent a cardboard cutout of himself instead and they'd still vote for him. That's how much of a hold he has over the MAGA cult, and lets be honest - that's exactly what it is, a cult with Trump as its leader. Nothing he says or does will ever get them to vote against him because his word is Gospel. It's quite sad and pathetic that his supporters don't seek the truth or question his outlandish claims (they're eating dogs and cats, seriously?).

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 11^th, 2024 at 1:12pm:

So did Hillary Clinton... and... y'know...