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Re: Walz stole from children's charities??
Reply #15 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:55am
 
Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:46am:
"MDE officials told us that the department began to have concerns about Feeding Our Future only after the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. However, we think MDE failed to act on warning signs known to the department prior to the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic and prior to the start of the alleged fraud," the report states.

"The buck has to stop somewhere," as Glahn put it. "He is the chief executive of the state. All of the people at the Department of Education and the other departments where fraud has taken place were appointed by him," Glahn noted. "So he appoints the commissioner, the deputy commissioner, assistant commissioners. They were all appointed by him. They all report to him. And these are the folks whom the legislative auditor has documented failed to do their job. So where does the buck stop?"

"It's been uncovered that a lot of these people who were indicted . . . and their spouses and immediate family members and business partners have given a lot of money to Democrats, to campaign contributions," Glahn noted. "So, they're campaign contributors. And then when these nonprofits were having trouble with Department of Education, the Department of Education shut off the money a couple of times and failed, or they didn't have the courage or convictions, and politicians went to bat for the nonprofits."
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tim-walz-250m-state-program-feed-hungry-kids-fraudule...




You realise that none of that supports the MDE buying holiday homes or Walz stealing from children's charities as you've claimed?

That's the lies you've been telling.

Unless that's not what you're saying anymore?
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Reply #16 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:22pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:55am:
Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:46am:
"MDE officials told us that the department began to have concerns about Feeding Our Future only after the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. However, we think MDE failed to act on warning signs known to the department prior to the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic and prior to the start of the alleged fraud," the report states.

"The buck has to stop somewhere," as Glahn put it. "He is the chief executive of the state. All of the people at the Department of Education and the other departments where fraud has taken place were appointed by him," Glahn noted. "So he appoints the commissioner, the deputy commissioner, assistant commissioners. They were all appointed by him. They all report to him. And these are the folks whom the legislative auditor has documented failed to do their job. So where does the buck stop?"

"It's been uncovered that a lot of these people who were indicted . . . and their spouses and immediate family members and business partners have given a lot of money to Democrats, to campaign contributions," Glahn noted. "So, they're campaign contributors. And then when these nonprofits were having trouble with Department of Education, the Department of Education shut off the money a couple of times and failed, or they didn't have the courage or convictions, and politicians went to bat for the nonprofits."
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tim-walz-250m-state-program-feed-hungry-kids-fraudule...




You realise that none of that supports the MDE buying holiday homes or Walz stealing from children's charities as you've claimed?

That's the lies you've been telling.

Unless that's not what you're saying anymore?


If a quarter of a BILLION dollar fraud had been carried out on a Republican governor's watch who then was picked for VP, you would shrill and livid with indignation of gweggyturdy proportions and more.

And you imagine yourself as the balanced, sober voice and seer of 'objective reality". Preposterous, deluded SadTirisias!   Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Walz stole from children's charities??
Reply #17 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:30pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:22pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:55am:
Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:46am:
"MDE officials told us that the department began to have concerns about Feeding Our Future only after the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. However, we think MDE failed to act on warning signs known to the department prior to the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic and prior to the start of the alleged fraud," the report states.

"The buck has to stop somewhere," as Glahn put it. "He is the chief executive of the state. All of the people at the Department of Education and the other departments where fraud has taken place were appointed by him," Glahn noted. "So he appoints the commissioner, the deputy commissioner, assistant commissioners. They were all appointed by him. They all report to him. And these are the folks whom the legislative auditor has documented failed to do their job. So where does the buck stop?"

"It's been uncovered that a lot of these people who were indicted . . . and their spouses and immediate family members and business partners have given a lot of money to Democrats, to campaign contributions," Glahn noted. "So, they're campaign contributors. And then when these nonprofits were having trouble with Department of Education, the Department of Education shut off the money a couple of times and failed, or they didn't have the courage or convictions, and politicians went to bat for the nonprofits."
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tim-walz-250m-state-program-feed-hungry-kids-fraudule...




You realise that none of that supports the MDE buying holiday homes or Walz stealing from children's charities as you've claimed?

That's the lies you've been telling.

Unless that's not what you're saying anymore?


If a quarter of a BILLION dollar fraud had been carried out on a Republican governor's watch who then was picked for VP, you would shrill and livid with indignation of gweggyturdy proportions and more.

And you imagine yourself as the balanced, sober voice and seer of 'objective reality". Preposterous, deluded SadTirisias!   Grin Grin Grin


You’re the one fabricating falsehoods here. And your defence?

“If it were a Republican, you'd be outraged!”

Quite possibly. Just as with Walz, if any wrongdoing is proven, accountability should follow, regardless of party affiliation. What I refuse to do, however, is distort the facts or undermine legitimate concerns by spewing baseless nonsense.

That’s precisely what individuals like you and your fellow MAGA cultists do, peddling falsehoods, hurling insults at your opponents, and desperately resisting the demands of objective reality.

Would you like to correct the record and take back the false claims about the MDE buying holiday homes or Walx stealing from children's charities?
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Reply #18 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:34pm
 
Frank makes crap up then gets hysterical over it. Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #19 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:38pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:30pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:22pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:55am:
Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 11:46am:
"MDE officials told us that the department began to have concerns about Feeding Our Future only after the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. However, we think MDE failed to act on warning signs known to the department prior to the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic and prior to the start of the alleged fraud," the report states.

"The buck has to stop somewhere," as Glahn put it. "He is the chief executive of the state. All of the people at the Department of Education and the other departments where fraud has taken place were appointed by him," Glahn noted. "So he appoints the commissioner, the deputy commissioner, assistant commissioners. They were all appointed by him. They all report to him. And these are the folks whom the legislative auditor has documented failed to do their job. So where does the buck stop?"

"It's been uncovered that a lot of these people who were indicted . . . and their spouses and immediate family members and business partners have given a lot of money to Democrats, to campaign contributions," Glahn noted. "So, they're campaign contributors. And then when these nonprofits were having trouble with Department of Education, the Department of Education shut off the money a couple of times and failed, or they didn't have the courage or convictions, and politicians went to bat for the nonprofits."
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tim-walz-250m-state-program-feed-hungry-kids-fraudule...




You realise that none of that supports the MDE buying holiday homes or Walz stealing from children's charities as you've claimed?

That's the lies you've been telling.

Unless that's not what you're saying anymore?


If a quarter of a BILLION dollar fraud had been carried out on a Republican governor's watch who then was picked for VP, you would shrill and livid with indignation of gweggyturdy proportions and more.

And you imagine yourself as the balanced, sober voice and seer of 'objective reality". Preposterous, deluded SadTirisias!   Grin Grin Grin


You’re the one fabricating falsehoods here. And your defence?

“If it were a Republican, you'd be outraged!”

Quite possibly. Just as with Walz, if any wrongdoing is proven, accountability should follow, regardless of party affiliation. What I refuse to do, however, is distort the facts or undermine legitimate concerns by spewing baseless nonsense.

That’s precisely what individuals like you and your fellow MAGA cultists do, peddling falsehoods, hurling insults at your opponents, and desperately resisting the demands of objective reality.

Would you like to correct the record and take back the false claims about the MDE buying holiday homes or Walx stealing from children's charities?

Where was the falsehood in my posts in this thread?

I asked a question about fraud under Walz's watch, committed by Somali Dem donors.
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Reply #20 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:44pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:34pm:
Frank makes crap up then gets hysterical over it. Cheesy Cheesy


Then he tries to create a safe space to avoid accountability for his lies.  It's very much like Trump creating Truth Social lol...
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Reply #21 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:00pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:38pm:
Where was the falsehood in my posts in this thread?

I asked a question about fraud under Walz's watch, committed by Somali Dem donors.


Here we go,

Frank wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 6:19pm:
So the chaps at Feeding Our Future, rather than feeding Minnesota kids, fed themselves, very lavishly.


Lie.  The "chaps" at "Feeding Our Future" is the US Department of Agriculture and no, they didn't.

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In June, five of these enterprising go-getters were convicted in federal court. Their names:

Abdiaziz Shafii Farah
Mohamed Jama Ismail
Abdimajid Mohamed Nur
Mukhtar Mohamed Shariff
Hayat Mohamed Nur


Lie.  They were not part of Feeding Our Future but external contractors.  These men formed a non-profit and defrauded Minessota Department of Education who was overseeing the roll out of funds and meals within the state.

Quote:
Among Feeding Our Future's ingenious wheezes was the purchase of vacation properties in the countries they're supposed to be refugees from.


Lie.  It was not anyone within Feeding Our Future, but again the external non-profit that was committing fraud.

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So Tim Walz's Department of Education bought holiday homes for Mohammedan fraudsters with US tax dollars.


Lie.  That did not happen.  Again, the non-profit org that defrauded the state did.

And your thread title, suggests Walz stole from children's charities?

Firstly, the program isn't charity, it's a federal initiative to provide meals to children in need that was administered by the states, that had to quickly expand during COVID as Schools and Community centres closed down so they could still supply meals to those children who relied on it from within their own homes.

It was this process that was exploited by those criminals who stole from the state and those children and who have rightly been brought to justice.

But you want to suggest that Walz was stealing from children's charities?

There are multiple lies and that baseless implications that you need to correct, if the truth matters to you even in the slightest.

Your safe space is crumbling again.
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Reply #23 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:14pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:00pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:38pm:
Where was the falsehood in my posts in this thread?

I asked a question about fraud under Walz's watch, committed by Somali Dem donors.


Here we go,

Frank wrote on Sep 11th, 2024 at 6:19pm:
So the chaps at Feeding Our Future, rather than feeding Minnesota kids, fed themselves, very lavishly.


Lie.  The "chaps" at "Feeding Our Future" is the US Department of Agriculture and no, they didn't.

Quote:
In June, five of these enterprising go-getters were convicted in federal court. Their names:

Abdiaziz Shafii Farah
Mohamed Jama Ismail
Abdimajid Mohamed Nur
Mukhtar Mohamed Shariff
Hayat Mohamed Nur


Lie.  They were not part of Feeding Our Future but external contractors.  These men formed a non-profit and defrauded Minessota Department of Education who was overseeing the roll out of funds and meals within the state.

Quote:
Among Feeding Our Future's ingenious wheezes was the purchase of vacation properties in the countries they're supposed to be refugees from.


Lie.  It was not anyone within Feeding Our Future, but again the external non-profit that was committing fraud.

Quote:
So Tim Walz's Department of Education bought holiday homes for Mohammedan fraudsters with US tax dollars.


Lie.  That did not happen.  Again, the non-profit org that defrauded the state did.

And your thread title, suggests Walz stole from children's charities?

Firstly, the program isn't charity, it's a federal initiative to provide meals to children in need that was administered by the states, that had to quickly expand during COVID as Schools and Community centres closed down so they could still supply meals to those children who relied on it from within their own homes.

It was this process that was exploited by those criminals who stole from the state and those children and who have rightly been brought to justice.

But you want to suggest that Walz was stealing from children's charities?

There are multiple lies and that baseless implications that you need to correct, if the truth matters to you even in the slightest.

Your safe space is crumbling again.


the truth is not the relevant paradigm anymore

its" the vibe and the meme"

people who fast forward thru an 11 second tiktok clip have no concept of the truth

its all about how it makes them feel (hence the lefty truth that  a man can breastfeed if he feels like he can , or can have period pain if he feels like he does)

so the trump campaogn would be wise to use these sort of tactics if they want to increase their vote

my money is still on kamala because the left are better at promoting the vibe of blame, victimhood , compliance and outrage.  and these are the prevailing emotions in the unthinking masses .

the MAGA vibe has limited appeal
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Reply #24 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:23pm
 
Even after moving the goalposts you're still scoring an own goal.

Frank asks "where have I lied", he's shown, then Scoot comes in and says "the truth doesn't matter anyway".

It's a masterclass in stupidity.

This choose your own reality shtick is getting old...
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Reply #25 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:57pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:23pm:
Even after moving the goalposts you're still scoring an own goal.

Frank asks "where have I lied", he's shown, then Scoot comes in and says "the truth doesn't matter anyway".

It's a masterclass in stupidity.

This choose your own reality shtick is getting old...


"The buck has to stop somewhere," as Glahn put it. "He is the chief executive of the state. All of the people at the Department of Education and the other departments where fraud has taken place were appointed by him," Glahn noted. "So he appoints the commissioner, the deputy commissioner, assistant commissioners. They were all appointed by him. They all report to him. And these are the folks whom the legislative auditor has documented failed to do their job. So where does the buck stop?"

"It's been uncovered that a lot of these people who were indicted . . . and their spouses and immediate family members and business partners have given a lot of money to Democrats, to campaign contributions," Glahn noted. "So, they're campaign contributors. And then when these nonprofits were having trouble with Department of Education, the Department of Education shut off the money a couple of times and failed, or they didn't have the courage or convictions, and politicians went to bat for the nonprofits."
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tim-walz-250m-state-program-feed-hungry-kids-fraudule...


Dear Governor Walz,
The U.S. House Committee on Education and the Workforce (Committee) is engaged in ongoing
oversight of the United States Department of Agriculture’s (USDA) and the Minnesota
Department of Education’s (MDE) administration of federal child nutrition programs (FCNP)
and Feeding Our Future (FOF).

As the chief executive and the highest ranking official in the state of Minnesota, you are
responsible for the MDE and its administration of FCNPs
. Article V Section 3 of the Constitution
of the State of Minnesota which lays out the powers and duties of the governor, states in part that
the governor “may require the opinion in writing of the principal officer in each of the executive
departments upon any subject relating to his duties,” and “he shall take care that the laws be
faithfully executed.”
Copies of our letters to the MDE were sent to you for your awareness of our oversight of the
USDA’s and the MDE’s administration of the FCNP and oversight of FOF.
You are well aware of the multi-million-dollar fraud that has occurred under your tenure as Governor.
https://edworkforce.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=411885

So there.

A QUARTER OF A BILLION dollars. On Walz's watch. Members of a vote-deciding corrupt demographic.
Now running for VP with a kackling airhead who keeps the border open for millions of third worlders like the Somalis in Minnesota and Haitians in Ohio.

Americans deserve to get it up the aris and lose their country if they 'elect'  Harris and Walz.

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Reply #26 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 3:15pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:57pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:23pm:
Even after moving the goalposts you're still scoring an own goal.

Frank asks "where have I lied", he's shown, then Scoot comes in and says "the truth doesn't matter anyway".

It's a masterclass in stupidity.

This choose your own reality shtick is getting old...


"The buck has to stop somewhere," as Glahn put it. "He is the chief executive of the state. All of the people at the Department of Education and the other departments where fraud has taken place were appointed by him," Glahn noted. "So he appoints the commissioner, the deputy commissioner, assistant commissioners. They were all appointed by him. They all report to him. And these are the folks whom the legislative auditor has documented failed to do their job. So where does the buck stop?"

"It's been uncovered that a lot of these people who were indicted . . . and their spouses and immediate family members and business partners have given a lot of money to Democrats, to campaign contributions," Glahn noted. "So, they're campaign contributors. And then when these nonprofits were having trouble with Department of Education, the Department of Education shut off the money a couple of times and failed, or they didn't have the courage or convictions, and politicians went to bat for the nonprofits."
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tim-walz-250m-state-program-feed-hungry-kids-fraudule...




A QUARTER OF A BILLION dollars. On Walz's watch. Members of a vote-deciding corrupt demographic.
Now running for VP with a kackling airhead who keeps the border open for millions of third worlders like the Somalis in Minnesota and Haitians in Ohio.

Americans deserve to get it up the aris and lose their country if they 'elect'  Harris and Walz.



I'm not saying he shouldn't be held to account for what happened within the departments under his governorship, I never said that, in fact I said the opposite.

What I'm saying is that your claims of what happened are what is false.

The department bought holiday homes, untrue.
Walz stole from children's charities, untrue.

But you know this, that's why you're skirting around it.
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Reply #27 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:24pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 3:15pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:57pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:23pm:
Even after moving the goalposts you're still scoring an own goal.

Frank asks "where have I lied", he's shown, then Scoot comes in and says "the truth doesn't matter anyway".

It's a masterclass in stupidity.

This choose your own reality shtick is getting old...


"The buck has to stop somewhere," as Glahn put it. "He is the chief executive of the state. All of the people at the Department of Education and the other departments where fraud has taken place were appointed by him," Glahn noted. "So he appoints the commissioner, the deputy commissioner, assistant commissioners. They were all appointed by him. They all report to him. And these are the folks whom the legislative auditor has documented failed to do their job. So where does the buck stop?"

"It's been uncovered that a lot of these people who were indicted . . . and their spouses and immediate family members and business partners have given a lot of money to Democrats, to campaign contributions," Glahn noted. "So, they're campaign contributors. And then when these nonprofits were having trouble with Department of Education, the Department of Education shut off the money a couple of times and failed, or they didn't have the courage or convictions, and politicians went to bat for the nonprofits."
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tim-walz-250m-state-program-feed-hungry-kids-fraudule...




A QUARTER OF A BILLION dollars. On Walz's watch. Members of a vote-deciding corrupt demographic.
Now running for VP with a kackling airhead who keeps the border open for millions of third worlders like the Somalis in Minnesota and Haitians in Ohio.

Americans deserve to get it up the aris and lose their country if they 'elect'  Harris and Walz.



I'm not saying he shouldn't be held to account for what happened within the departments under his governorship, I never said that, in fact I said the opposite.

What I'm saying is that your claims of what happened are what is false.

The department bought holiday homes, untrue.
Walz stole from children's charities, untrue.

But you know this, that's why you're skirting around it.


Frank knows full well that everything he posts is bullshit.

His Dear Leader looks like losing - and going to prison - and he can't handle it.

His posts are going to get even more delusional the closer we get to November.

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Reply #28 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 5:40pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 3:15pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:57pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:23pm:
Even after moving the goalposts you're still scoring an own goal.

Frank asks "where have I lied", he's shown, then Scoot comes in and says "the truth doesn't matter anyway".

It's a masterclass in stupidity.

This choose your own reality shtick is getting old...


"The buck has to stop somewhere," as Glahn put it. "He is the chief executive of the state. All of the people at the Department of Education and the other departments where fraud has taken place were appointed by him," Glahn noted. "So he appoints the commissioner, the deputy commissioner, assistant commissioners. They were all appointed by him. They all report to him. And these are the folks whom the legislative auditor has documented failed to do their job. So where does the buck stop?"

"It's been uncovered that a lot of these people who were indicted . . . and their spouses and immediate family members and business partners have given a lot of money to Democrats, to campaign contributions," Glahn noted. "So, they're campaign contributors. And then when these nonprofits were having trouble with Department of Education, the Department of Education shut off the money a couple of times and failed, or they didn't have the courage or convictions, and politicians went to bat for the nonprofits."
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tim-walz-250m-state-program-feed-hungry-kids-fraudule...




A QUARTER OF A BILLION dollars. On Walz's watch. Members of a vote-deciding corrupt demographic.
Now running for VP with a kackling airhead who keeps the border open for millions of third worlders like the Somalis in Minnesota and Haitians in Ohio.

Americans deserve to get it up the aris and lose their country if they 'elect'  Harris and Walz.



I'm not saying he shouldn't be held to account for what happened within the departments under his governorship, I never said that, in fact I said the opposite.

What I'm saying is that your claims of what happened are what is false.

The department bought holiday homes, untrue.
Walz stole from children's charities, untrue.

But you know this, that's why you're skirting around it.

Up to a point, Lord Copper.

The Fraudulently obtained money from the Government ("department') did buy cars, holiday homes, travel. The 'department' was lax and enabled the fraud to the tune of a quarter of a BILLION dollars.
The Democratic party in power, with Walz at the help DID benefit politically by securing the Somali vote.

The Unflushable has been screeching about Trump 'stealing from children's charities' for years and years. That is not true either. The management and book keeping was found to be technically wrong and a penalty of $2 mil was duly imposed and paid, even though Trump didn't personally manage any of it but the buck stopped with him. Turd has been shouting about it for years without a peep from you from your ridiculous,  self-righteos 'objective reality' perch.

But it a Dem is responsible for a HUNDRED TIMES BIGGER fraud, benefitting politically, you are all het up, full of bluster and 'but, but, but'.

Pull your pompous, preening finger out.  You are no unbiased sage or upholder of eternal verities.

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Reply #29 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 6:03pm
 
Again you're deflecting.

I've cited specific quotes, at your request, of where you lied.

Stop running scared and either correct the record, own up to your mistake and take it back, or just finally admit the truth doesn't matter.

They're your only options at this point.

Enough distractions, enough deflections, just man up and stop being an intellectual coward.
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