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Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:27pm
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/plan-in-train-to-stop-violence-against-...

"Experts, stakeholders, communities and people who've experienced domestic and family violence are being asked for their input to create a plan to stop the abuse of Indigenous women and children.

SNAICC - the peak body for Indigenous children - will oversee the consultation process as the National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Family Safety Plan is developed and is calling for submissions.

SNAICC chief executive Catherine Liddle said making a submission will help to ensure the plan reflects the needs and aspirations of Indigenous communities.

"It's vital we emphasise the importance of including voices from across the country, encompassing lived experiences, grassroots perspectives, organisations, and academics to inform a standalone plan to enhance safety for women and children," Ms Liddle said.

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family, domestic and sexual violence.

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die because of family violence.

Steering Committee co-chair Muriel Bamblett said the National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Family Safety Plan would be critical to increase safety for Indigenous women and children.

"We want to make sure all perspectives on the solutions, priorities and approaches have every opportunity to inform the National Plan, so it reflects the needs and aspirations of our communities," she said.

Federal Minister for Indigenous Australians Malarndirri McCarthy said ensuring the safety of First Nations women, children and families is a government priority.

"It is unacceptable First Nations women and children continue to experience disproportionately higher rates of family and domestic violence," she said.

"This opportunity for First Nations people with lived experience of family violence, experts, the community-controlled sector and community members to inform the development of the standalone National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Family Safety Plan is key to ensuring practical outcomes and driving meaningful change.

"It is essential these perspectives are heard."

The public submissions process is open until October 25. "



Sideline:-  Am I wrong... of do I keep seeing the same names cropping up again and again with regard to handling of Aboriginal issues?  Is there money involved that needs to be watched carefully?
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Reply #1 - Sep 12th, 2024 at 2:44pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 12th, 2024 at 1:27pm:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/plan-in-train-to-stop-violence-against-...

"Experts, stakeholders, communities and people who've experienced domestic and family violence are being asked for their input to create a plan to stop the abuse of Indigenous women and children.

SNAICC - the peak body for Indigenous children - will oversee the consultation process as the National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Family Safety Plan is developed and is calling for submissions.

SNAICC chief executive Catherine Liddle said making a submission will help to ensure the plan reflects the needs and aspirations of Indigenous communities.

"It's vital we emphasise the importance of including voices from across the country, encompassing lived experiences, grassroots perspectives, organisations, and academics to inform a standalone plan to enhance safety for women and children," Ms Liddle said.

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family, domestic and sexual violence.

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die because of family violence.

Steering Committee co-chair Muriel Bamblett said the National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Family Safety Plan would be critical to increase safety for Indigenous women and children.

"We want to make sure all perspectives on the solutions, priorities and approaches have every opportunity to inform the National Plan, so it reflects the needs and aspirations of our communities," she said.

Federal Minister for Indigenous Australians Malarndirri McCarthy said ensuring the safety of First Nations women, children and families is a government priority.

"It is unacceptable First Nations women and children continue to experience disproportionately higher rates of family and domestic violence," she said.

"This opportunity for First Nations people with lived experience of family violence, experts, the community-controlled sector and community members to inform the development of the standalone National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Family Safety Plan is key to ensuring practical outcomes and driving meaningful change.

"It is essential these perspectives are heard."

The public submissions process is open until October 25. "



Sideline:-  Am I wrong... of do I keep seeing the same names cropping up again and again with regard to handling of Aboriginal issues?  Is there money involved that needs to be watched carefully?


Yes to both questions. The two names mentioned in the article keep cropping up.

What I want to know is how many similar Family Safety Plans have been devised in the past that have amounted to nothing?

And how long has this other body SNAICC has been around?

And they reckon they have "no voice". Here's another taxpayer funded bureaucratic body specifically for ATSI peoples.

Aptly named as well.(Snake) Grin
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Reply #2 - Sep 13th, 2024 at 1:33pm
 
I love the way the zealots here rant and carry on about anything but the real issues... say that 10% of a crowd of rioters who might be fired upon by law if they persist are worth saving - MAYBE - and you're advocating killing 90% of them - well - no - the 100% are advocating the potential killing of 90% of them... I'm just saying there might be some worth saving...

But when it comes to violence against women and kids and killing etc, all in the high majority among that 30% of the population up there, meaning a woman is not 15 times more likely to die at home, but actually within that 30%, 35 times more likely - they remain silent...... until Mad Kangaroo comes in and accuses me of being false in my support for action on those issues now for years....

Hey, Skanka!  I will continue to call out the evils of Aboriginalism and all other -isms... and all your bombast and big-mouthing won't stop me.

Deal??  You do the bluster and bulldust and I'll just keep telling the truth...

Damn - them Melbadishu coppers need some training - give it to 'em in volleys - not one at a time... fear and awe ... all fire at once... one round.... rubber bullets and tear gas .... at least that's a bit better than that sheila in the West Bank who flew over from the US to riot and throw stones at Israeli troops.

Of all things, on quora I had a poof ask if he should go to Gaza to help out etc... I said to him he should just learn that not all people are worthy of his support etc... and he came back all guns about what a bastard I am and how I should be careful not to be seen as worthy of his attention..

As usual, I laughed in his internet face, and told him to go to Gaza toute de suite .... here's a one way ticket... go talk to someone you can hang with ... then I suggested he go back to his school and book in for weekend detention to learn some sense and manners.

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Reply #3 - Sep 13th, 2024 at 2:05pm
 
Who are you we (edit) to compare white man stats to indigenous stats and why should the indigenous have to conform to white man standards?
Remember, according to Adam Goodes and the like; "white man practices bad, indigenous good".
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Reply #4 - Sep 13th, 2024 at 2:41pm
 
goosecat wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 2:05pm:
Who are you to compare white man stats to indigenous stats and why should the indigenous have to conform to white man standards?
Remember, according to Adam Goodes and the like; "white man practices bad, indigenous good".


No problem, goosie-coosie - we'll just let them kill women at a rate 35 times higher than the 96% majority do then, eh?

I take it you are being sarcastic.

Not MY comparisons - the figures don't lie...
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Reply #5 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:59pm
 
goosecat wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 2:05pm:
Who are you we (edit) to compare white man stats to indigenous stats and why should the indigenous have to conform to white man standards?
Remember, according to Adam Goodes and the like; "white man practices bad, indigenous good".


Wanker .... because we are all supposed to be all equal as Australians.

Referencing Adam Goodes is an absolute joke.
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Many if not most Aboriginal children in remote tribal areas are set up for failure from birth by their parents and clans.




The first 5 years of a child’s life is a time for rapid brain development. The growing brain responds to the conditions around it – and these moments matter. Stimulating experiences can boost brain development and lay down the foundations for learning.  What happens in the first 5 years of life has been shown to have an impact throughout life. For example, early life experiences can influence:

how a child will learn and perform in school
involvement with the criminal justice system in the adolescent years
drug and alcohol use and antisocial and violent behaviour
likelihood of obesity, elevated blood pressure and depression in 20-40 year olds
likelihood of coronary heart disease and diabetes in 40-60 year olds
likelihood of premature ageing and memory loss in older age groups.
https://www.nsw.gov.au/family-and-relationships/early-child-development/why-firs...

By the time they get to school the damage is done. They are lagging behind in all areas of development, linguistic, social, moral. So truancy, malnutrition, drug and sexual abuse, violence are endemic.

They are not being set up for either a traditional, pre-contact traditional Aboriginal life nor a modern 21st century existence. They are set up for failure. Generation after generation.
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Reply #7 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:12am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:02am:
Many if not most Aboriginal children in remote tribal areas are set up for failure from birth by their parents and clans.




The first 5 years of a child’s life is a time for rapid brain development. The growing brain responds to the conditions around it – and these moments matter. Stimulating experiences can boost brain development and lay down the foundations for learning.  What happens in the first 5 years of life has been shown to have an impact throughout life. For example, early life experiences can influence:

how a child will learn and perform in school
involvement with the criminal justice system in the adolescent years
drug and alcohol use and antisocial and violent behaviour
likelihood of obesity, elevated blood pressure and depression in 20-40 year olds
likelihood of coronary heart disease and diabetes in 40-60 year olds
likelihood of premature ageing and memory loss in older age groups.
https://www.nsw.gov.au/family-and-relationships/early-child-development/why-firs...

By the time they get to school the damage is done. They are lagging behind in all areas of development, linguistic, social, moral. So truancy, malnutrition, drug and sexual abuse, violence are endemic.

They are not being set up for either a traditional, pre-contact traditional Aboriginal life nor a modern 21st century existence. They are set up for failure. Generation after generation.



"They". Always the heavy emphasis on the the "they".

But here's the facts, most Aboriginal kids are just fine, if not suffering from severe under-resourcing in their schools and communities. Children are sacred to Aboriginal communities and the overwhelming majority of the time, that proves to be perfectly the case.

It is an outlier of Aboriginal kids that are behaving anti-socially.

But say after day, and all of the hours of those days, god's waiting room here are whining about "them" and heaping on their shoulders the responsibility for all of their kin.

Not that this hasn't been pointed out before. It'll be lost in bilious attacks this time round too.

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Reply #8 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:23am
 
So sacred that they are neglected and abused and removed at a far greater rate, and allowed to roam the streets day and night and getting into trouble and engaging in fights between rival groups in the 'old way'.

What do you mean their communities are under-resourced?  They get FIFO medical services for free.. supplies trucked in etc so they don't have to miss out on Tim Tams ... schooling is provided and available if they bother to attend....scholarships are available for those wanting to go onwards with education ...

What do you want?  A world class hospital in every tiny gathering of twenty people?

When they are moved to one spot for education etc - they fight their old feuds - look at Wadeye - a former mission place and now just a dumped ground where seven different groups fight over who's going to own the joint instead of 'going back home' to their 'traditional' lands....

You need to get out more....
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Reply #9 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:26am
 
"They". Always the heavy emphasis on the the "they"."

What's that supposed to mean?  Please explain?  Who else is under discussion at this moment?

Come on in!!
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Reply #10 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:44am
 
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:12am:
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:02am:
Many if not most Aboriginal children in remote tribal areas are set up for failure from birth by their parents and clans.




The first 5 years of a child’s life is a time for rapid brain development. The growing brain responds to the conditions around it – and these moments matter. Stimulating experiences can boost brain development and lay down the foundations for learning.  What happens in the first 5 years of life has been shown to have an impact throughout life. For example, early life experiences can influence:

how a child will learn and perform in school
involvement with the criminal justice system in the adolescent years
drug and alcohol use and antisocial and violent behaviour
likelihood of obesity, elevated blood pressure and depression in 20-40 year olds
likelihood of coronary heart disease and diabetes in 40-60 year olds
likelihood of premature ageing and memory loss in older age groups.
https://www.nsw.gov.au/family-and-relationships/early-child-development/why-firs...

By the time they get to school the damage is done. They are lagging behind in all areas of development, linguistic, social, moral. So truancy, malnutrition, drug and sexual abuse, violence are endemic.

They are not being set up for either a traditional, pre-contact traditional Aboriginal life nor a modern 21st century existence. They are set up for failure. Generation after generation.



"They". Always the heavy emphasis on the the "they".

But here's the facts, most Aboriginal kids are just fine, if not suffering from severe under-resourcing in their schools and communities. Children are sacred to Aboriginal communities and the overwhelming majority of the time, that proves to be perfectly the case.

It is an outlier of Aboriginal kids that are behaving anti-socially.

But say after day, and all of the hours of those days, god's waiting room here are whining about "them" and heaping on their shoulders the responsibility for all of their kin.

Not that this hasn't been pointed out before. It'll be lost in bilious attacks this time round too.




Yeah, keep your befogged, wooly head up where it is. I say that in the most caring, nurturing and non-judgemental way possible.

There is an endless stream of information, reports, data on Aboriginal child neglect and abuse and their consequences in later life. But dont's you worry your silly little head about any of that. The Aboriginal kids are fine, the problem is all the o lkd wacists who thinks they aren't.





In addition to the over-representation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children in the child protection system, there are differences between the primary types of abuse and neglect experienced by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children and non-Indigenous children, as shown in Figure 1. A greater number of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children (30.2%) were the subject of substantiations of neglect when compared with non-Indigenous children (11.5%).


Indigenous children are over represented in areas where child safety and security are compromised. This report shows that Indigenous children aged 0–17 have higher rates of hospitalisations and deaths due to injury than non Indigenous children; are more likely to be victims of child abuse, neglect and sexual assault; and are over represented in homelessness and youth justice statistics.

And on and on and on.  But the kids are fine, right.
30%?  - meh, outliers.


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Reply #11 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:54am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:44am:
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:12am:
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:02am:
Many if not most Aboriginal children in remote tribal areas are set up for failure from birth by their parents and clans.




The first 5 years of a child’s life is a time for rapid brain development. The growing brain responds to the conditions around it – and these moments matter. Stimulating experiences can boost brain development and lay down the foundations for learning.  What happens in the first 5 years of life has been shown to have an impact throughout life. For example, early life experiences can influence:

how a child will learn and perform in school
involvement with the criminal justice system in the adolescent years
drug and alcohol use and antisocial and violent behaviour
likelihood of obesity, elevated blood pressure and depression in 20-40 year olds
likelihood of coronary heart disease and diabetes in 40-60 year olds
likelihood of premature ageing and memory loss in older age groups.
https://www.nsw.gov.au/family-and-relationships/early-child-development/why-firs...

By the time they get to school the damage is done. They are lagging behind in all areas of development, linguistic, social, moral. So truancy, malnutrition, drug and sexual abuse, violence are endemic.

They are not being set up for either a traditional, pre-contact traditional Aboriginal life nor a modern 21st century existence. They are set up for failure. Generation after generation.



"They". Always the heavy emphasis on the the "they".

But here's the facts, most Aboriginal kids are just fine, if not suffering from severe under-resourcing in their schools and communities. Children are sacred to Aboriginal communities and the overwhelming majority of the time, that proves to be perfectly the case.

It is an outlier of Aboriginal kids that are behaving anti-socially.

But say after day, and all of the hours of those days, god's waiting room here are whining about "them" and heaping on their shoulders the responsibility for all of their kin.

Not that this hasn't been pointed out before. It'll be lost in bilious attacks this time round too.




Yeah, keep your befogged, wooly head up where it is. I say that in the most caring, nurturing and non-judgemental way possible.

There is an endless stream of information, reports, data on Aboriginal child neglect and abuse and their consequences in later life. But dont's you worry your silly little head about any of that. The Aboriginal kids are fine, the problem is all the o lkd wacists who thinks they aren't.





In addition to the over-representation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children in the child protection system, there are differences between the primary types of abuse and neglect experienced by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children and non-Indigenous children, as shown in Figure 1. A greater number of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children (30.2%) were the subject of substantiations of neglect when compared with non-Indigenous children (11.5%).


Indigenous children are over represented in areas where child safety and security are compromised. This report shows that Indigenous children aged 0–17 have higher rates of hospitalisations and deaths due to injury than non Indigenous children; are more likely to be victims of child abuse, neglect and sexual assault; and are over represented in homelessness and youth justice statistics.

And on and on and on.  But the kids are fine, right.
30%?  - meh, outliers.




Why do you always need to be so dramatic?

Absolutely nobody is denyiing that there are very real problems. Nobody at all.

What waws called into question was yours and the other miseducated old boomers on here continuously and dishonestly relegating the problems of a few to the status of the whole.

Aboriginal children are cherished in their communities. Abhorrent behaviour is an outlier.

A very big part of addressing the fundamentals of the crisis we face is removing racist language and stereotyping.

If you lot on here simply cleaned up your language, imagine the conversations we could have! Alas, Ozpol is just a place for badly educated boomers to congratulate each other over how hateful they are.

On that Fruitbat, i think you're winning.
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Reply #12 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:01am
 
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:54am:
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:44am:
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:12am:
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:02am:
Many if not most Aboriginal children in remote tribal areas are set up for failure from birth by their parents and clans.




The first 5 years of a child’s life is a time for rapid brain development. The growing brain responds to the conditions around it – and these moments matter. Stimulating experiences can boost brain development and lay down the foundations for learning.  What happens in the first 5 years of life has been shown to have an impact throughout life. For example, early life experiences can influence:

how a child will learn and perform in school
involvement with the criminal justice system in the adolescent years
drug and alcohol use and antisocial and violent behaviour
likelihood of obesity, elevated blood pressure and depression in 20-40 year olds
likelihood of coronary heart disease and diabetes in 40-60 year olds
likelihood of premature ageing and memory loss in older age groups.
https://www.nsw.gov.au/family-and-relationships/early-child-development/why-firs...

By the time they get to school the damage is done. They are lagging behind in all areas of development, linguistic, social, moral. So truancy, malnutrition, drug and sexual abuse, violence are endemic.

They are not being set up for either a traditional, pre-contact traditional Aboriginal life nor a modern 21st century existence. They are set up for failure. Generation after generation.



"They". Always the heavy emphasis on the the "they".

But here's the facts, most Aboriginal kids are just fine, if not suffering from severe under-resourcing in their schools and communities. Children are sacred to Aboriginal communities and the overwhelming majority of the time, that proves to be perfectly the case.

It is an outlier of Aboriginal kids that are behaving anti-socially.

But say after day, and all of the hours of those days, god's waiting room here are whining about "them" and heaping on their shoulders the responsibility for all of their kin.

Not that this hasn't been pointed out before. It'll be lost in bilious attacks this time round too.




Yeah, keep your befogged, wooly head up where it is. I say that in the most caring, nurturing and non-judgemental way possible.

There is an endless stream of information, reports, data on Aboriginal child neglect and abuse and their consequences in later life. But dont's you worry your silly little head about any of that. The Aboriginal kids are fine, the problem is all the o lkd wacists who thinks they aren't.





In addition to the over-representation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children in the child protection system, there are differences between the primary types of abuse and neglect experienced by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children and non-Indigenous children, as shown in Figure 1. A greater number of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children (30.2%) were the subject of substantiations of neglect when compared with non-Indigenous children (11.5%).


Indigenous children are over represented in areas where child safety and security are compromised. This report shows that Indigenous children aged 0–17 have higher rates of hospitalisations and deaths due to injury than non Indigenous children; are more likely to be victims of child abuse, neglect and sexual assault; and are over represented in homelessness and youth justice statistics.

And on and on and on.  But the kids are fine, right.
30%?  - meh, outliers.




Why do you always need to be so dramatic?

Absolutely nobody is denyiing that there are very real problems. Nobody at all.





But here's the facts, most Aboriginal kids are just fine, if not suffering from severe under-resourcing in their schools and communities. Children are sacred to Aboriginal communities and the overwhelming majority of the time, that proves to be perfectly the case.

It is an outlier of Aboriginal kids that are behaving anti-socially.

But day after day, and all of the hours of those days, god's waiting room here are whining about "them" and heaping on their shoulders the responsibility for all of their kin.

Not that this hasn't been pointed out before. It'll be lost in bilious attacks this time round too.






The kids are fine and I am dramatic.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #13 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:14am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:01am:
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:54am:
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:44am:
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:12am:
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:02am:
Many if not most Aboriginal children in remote tribal areas are set up for failure from birth by their parents and clans.




The first 5 years of a child’s life is a time for rapid brain development. The growing brain responds to the conditions around it – and these moments matter. Stimulating experiences can boost brain development and lay down the foundations for learning.  What happens in the first 5 years of life has been shown to have an impact throughout life. For example, early life experiences can influence:

how a child will learn and perform in school
involvement with the criminal justice system in the adolescent years
drug and alcohol use and antisocial and violent behaviour
likelihood of obesity, elevated blood pressure and depression in 20-40 year olds
likelihood of coronary heart disease and diabetes in 40-60 year olds
likelihood of premature ageing and memory loss in older age groups.
https://www.nsw.gov.au/family-and-relationships/early-child-development/why-firs...

By the time they get to school the damage is done. They are lagging behind in all areas of development, linguistic, social, moral. So truancy, malnutrition, drug and sexual abuse, violence are endemic.

They are not being set up for either a traditional, pre-contact traditional Aboriginal life nor a modern 21st century existence. They are set up for failure. Generation after generation.



"They". Always the heavy emphasis on the the "they".

But here's the facts, most Aboriginal kids are just fine, if not suffering from severe under-resourcing in their schools and communities. Children are sacred to Aboriginal communities and the overwhelming majority of the time, that proves to be perfectly the case.

It is an outlier of Aboriginal kids that are behaving anti-socially.

But say after day, and all of the hours of those days, god's waiting room here are whining about "them" and heaping on their shoulders the responsibility for all of their kin.

Not that this hasn't been pointed out before. It'll be lost in bilious attacks this time round too.




Yeah, keep your befogged, wooly head up where it is. I say that in the most caring, nurturing and non-judgemental way possible.

There is an endless stream of information, reports, data on Aboriginal child neglect and abuse and their consequences in later life. But dont's you worry your silly little head about any of that. The Aboriginal kids are fine, the problem is all the o lkd wacists who thinks they aren't.





In addition to the over-representation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children in the child protection system, there are differences between the primary types of abuse and neglect experienced by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children and non-Indigenous children, as shown in Figure 1. A greater number of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children (30.2%) were the subject of substantiations of neglect when compared with non-Indigenous children (11.5%).


Indigenous children are over represented in areas where child safety and security are compromised. This report shows that Indigenous children aged 0–17 have higher rates of hospitalisations and deaths due to injury than non Indigenous children; are more likely to be victims of child abuse, neglect and sexual assault; and are over represented in homelessness and youth justice statistics.

And on and on and on.  But the kids are fine, right.
30%?  - meh, outliers.




Why do you always need to be so dramatic?

Absolutely nobody is denyiing that there are very real problems. Nobody at all.





But here's the facts, most Aboriginal kids are just fine, if not suffering from severe under-resourcing in their schools and communities. Children are sacred to Aboriginal communities and the overwhelming majority of the time, that proves to be perfectly the case.

It is an outlier of Aboriginal kids that are behaving anti-socially.

But day after day, and all of the hours of those days, god's waiting room here are whining about "them" and heaping on their shoulders the responsibility for all of their kin.

Not that this hasn't been pointed out before. It'll be lost in bilious attacks this time round too.






The kids are fine and I am dramatic.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



That's now what i said.

Why lie?

And this folks, is why we can't engage in good faith debate about these issues.

Pointed out a thousand times before.
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Re: Violence against women and children
Reply #14 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:17am
 
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:14am:
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:01am:
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:54am:
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:44am:
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:12am:
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 9:02am:
Many if not most Aboriginal children in remote tribal areas are set up for failure from birth by their parents and clans.




The first 5 years of a child’s life is a time for rapid brain development. The growing brain responds to the conditions around it – and these moments matter. Stimulating experiences can boost brain development and lay down the foundations for learning.  What happens in the first 5 years of life has been shown to have an impact throughout life. For example, early life experiences can influence:

how a child will learn and perform in school
involvement with the criminal justice system in the adolescent years
drug and alcohol use and antisocial and violent behaviour
likelihood of obesity, elevated blood pressure and depression in 20-40 year olds
likelihood of coronary heart disease and diabetes in 40-60 year olds
likelihood of premature ageing and memory loss in older age groups.
https://www.nsw.gov.au/family-and-relationships/early-child-development/why-firs...

By the time they get to school the damage is done. They are lagging behind in all areas of development, linguistic, social, moral. So truancy, malnutrition, drug and sexual abuse, violence are endemic.

They are not being set up for either a traditional, pre-contact traditional Aboriginal life nor a modern 21st century existence. They are set up for failure. Generation after generation.



"They". Always the heavy emphasis on the the "they".

But here's the facts, most Aboriginal kids are just fine, if not suffering from severe under-resourcing in their schools and communities. Children are sacred to Aboriginal communities and the overwhelming majority of the time, that proves to be perfectly the case.

It is an outlier of Aboriginal kids that are behaving anti-socially.

But say after day, and all of the hours of those days, god's waiting room here are whining about "them" and heaping on their shoulders the responsibility for all of their kin.

Not that this hasn't been pointed out before. It'll be lost in bilious attacks this time round too.





Yeah, keep your befogged, wooly head up where it is. I say that in the most caring, nurturing and non-judgemental way possible.

There is an endless stream of information, reports, data on Aboriginal child neglect and abuse and their consequences in later life. But dont's you worry your silly little head about any of that. The Aboriginal kids are fine, the problem is all the o lkd wacists who thinks they aren't.





In addition to the over-representation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children in the child protection system, there are differences between the primary types of abuse and neglect experienced by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children and non-Indigenous children, as shown in Figure 1. A greater number of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children (30.2%) were the subject of substantiations of neglect when compared with non-Indigenous children (11.5%).


Indigenous children are over represented in areas where child safety and security are compromised. This report shows that Indigenous children aged 0–17 have higher rates of hospitalisations and deaths due to injury than non Indigenous children; are more likely to be victims of child abuse, neglect and sexual assault; and are over represented in homelessness and youth justice statistics.

And on and on and on.  But the kids are fine, right.
30%?  - meh, outliers.




Why do you always need to be so dramatic?

Absolutely nobody is denyiing that there are very real problems. Nobody at all.





But here's the facts, most Aboriginal kids are just fine, if not suffering from severe under-resourcing in their schools and communities. Children are sacred to Aboriginal communities and the overwhelming majority of the time, that proves to be perfectly the case.

It is an outlier of Aboriginal kids that are behaving anti-socially.

But day after day, and all of the hours of those days, god's waiting room here are whining about "them" and heaping on their shoulders the responsibility for all of their kin.

Not that this hasn't been pointed out before. It'll be lost in bilious attacks this time round too.






The kids are fine and I am dramatic.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



That's now what i said.

Why lie?





Yes, that is what you said.
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