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Reply #16 - Sep 13^th, 2024 at 1:34pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 12^th, 2024 at 4:29pm:

So those with money will have to pay more for their care so as to enable more of those without the savings to be accomodated

Sounds good to me.

Sounds like a continuation of leaners leaning & lifters being kicked in the guts to accommodate them.

Since when has increasing costs/taxation been a "reform".

Very few self funded retirees who own their own home are multi millionaires.

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Reply #17 - Sep 13^th, 2024 at 1:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 12^th, 2024 at 7:49pm:

Frank,
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So the oldies are on board.

Really - so someone who pissed their money against the wall and
put the rest through the pokies will benefit from
someone else who went without and saved and invested their money?

That's it in a nutshell.

All this will do is encourage current & future self funded retirees to spend all their capital as quickly as possible & enjoy themselves before they can't so they can qualify for the pension.

Can't see this as a benefit to Govts ... the reverse in fact.

Once in an Aged Facility the average life expectancy/occupancy is 1 to 5 years(44%)

there is a high turnover

So govt & the privatised facilities are sticking it to those who can pay as hard as they can.

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Reply #18 - Sep 13^th, 2024 at 1:49pm

There are countless reasons many don't have savings amassed - social and economic policies over the past fifty years or so have ruined it for many to benefit the few by Accredited Victimhood Group Status - and it's still going on...... and on ..... and on ..... and on......

Short List:-

Sheilas
Blacks
Ethnics
Poofs

White hetero men need not apply - why - back in 2012, 72% of men retired with only pension compared to 66% or so of women... such disadvantage after a sheltered life, even back then. Then when he retired at 65 - they overfed him and his heart gave out at 67, so they inherited the mansion paid for and sold it to move to somewhere with beachfront at half the price and money in the bank the old man only ever dreamed of.

Now they play pokies at $5 a shot .... trips to Alaska and such....

It's a tough life this disadvantage....

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Re: Elderly Australians to pay more in aged care
Reply #19 - Sep 13^th, 2024 at 2:18pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 13^th, 2024 at 1:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 12^th, 2024 at 4:29pm:

So those with money will have to pay more for their care so as to enable more of those without the savings to be accomodated

Sounds good to me.

Sounds like a continuation of leaners leaning & lifters being kicked in the guts to accommodate them.

Asking those who have the money to pay their way is kicking them in the guts?

I guess after a lifetime of sponging off taxpayers, it can seem that way to you boomers

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Re: Elderly Australians to pay more in aged care
Reply #20 - Sep 13^th, 2024 at 2:30pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 13^th, 2024 at 1:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 12^th, 2024 at 7:49pm:

Frank,
Quote:

So the oldies are on board.

Really - so someone who pissed their money against the wall and
put the rest through the pokies will benefit from
someone else who went without and saved and invested their money?

That's it in a nutshell.

All this will do is encourage current & future self funded retirees to spend all their capital as quickly as possible & enjoy themselves before they can't so they can qualify for the pension.

Can't see this as a benefit to Govts ... the reverse in fact.

Once in an Aged Facility the average life expectancy/occupancy is 1 to 5 years(44%)

there is a high turnover

So govt & the privatised facilities are sticking it to those who can pay as hard as they can.

Enjoy your Xmas dinner.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-26/nursing-home-condemned-for-christmas-mash...

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Reply #21 - Sep 13^th, 2024 at 4:00pm

you really are setting the bar very low if you are thinking you might end up in a nursing home

surely you are developing strong bonds with your children, your siblings?

surely you have been helping them on the narrow raod to success and they will look after you in your last year?

surely you are hitting the gym and eating a clean diet so you remain in good health till well into your 80's?

surely if you are so clapped out that you need some nurse to wipe your arse, you would veiw that as totally undignified and you would apply for VAD?

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Reply #22 - Sep 15^th, 2024 at 8:36am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 13^th, 2024 at 4:00pm:

you really are setting the bar very low if you are thinking you might end up in a nursing home

surely you are developing strong bonds with your children, your siblings?

surely you have been helping them on the narrow raod to success and they will look after you in your last year?

surely you are hitting the gym and eating a clean diet so you remain in good health till well into your 80's?

surely if you are so clapped out that you need some nurse to wipe your arse, you would veiw that as totally undignified and you would apply for VAD?

Come on aqua - some ppl dont have kids and some ppl get cancer or something like that - nothing they can do about it.

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Reply #23 - Sep 15^th, 2024 at 9:45am

Nice try, Spot.

But, seeing as you're not here very often these days let me 'bring you up to speed'.

People like aquascoot apparently don't care how many Australians die in aged care if they're no longer contributing to the economy by working, paying tax, shopping and spending.

But, it isn't just aquascoot and his ilk... our governments also hold that same opinion and have for some time now (they're obviously quite happy thinking about all the money they're saving on age pensions and healthcare costs):

https://x.com/COVID19info101/status/1834813552282263789

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State sanctioned killing of our elderly in Australia, under the watch of @AlboMP
& @Mark_Butler_MP

@AustralianLabor
have normalised this depraved & abhorrent practice.

Men & women who paid taxes all their life, discarded, infected & left to die. No attempt at infection control

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1834463309598523572

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Today, Australia hit a sad and tragic milestone of 7,003 COVID-related deaths in aged care.

https://x.com/BigBadDenis/status/1834462224855040120

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7,003 aged care COVID deaths since beginning of pandemic

🔸686 reported deaths in 2020
🔸226 reported deaths in 2021
🔸3,855 reported deaths in 2022
🔸1,359 reported deaths in 2023
🔸877 reported deaths in 2024

And... for the ultimate insult (and irony) it still says "BE COVIDSAFE" in the attached report.

Disgraceful (and criminal).

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Re: Elderly Australians to pay more in aged care
Reply #24 - Sep 15^th, 2024 at 6:10pm

On Novosti now - Chanel #9 - 'tens of thousands of workers will be needed, pay rises" .... where's the money coming from as 'boomers' are progressively raped of their pitiful retirement packages with massive costs of living, healthcare, inability to pay specialists, and so forth... and the RBA runs around headless as usual under its sheila, raving about how the 'jobs market is what is driving inflation'... Grin

This will never work..... just another fantasy and lie to cover up false immigration madness and a few other things.........

Do we REALLY want our country changed forever from Australia to just another Third World cultural dustbowl to satisfy the insanity of 'globalisation' and 'internationalisation' operating in tandem in our 'government'?

How will this be explained to the Tent City Slickers? Oh...... sorry.... they're of no account..... does any single person in 'authority' over anything in this country know anything at all? The Madness.. The Madness ....

Consider this in terms of a national cultural dust bowl.. and then start Whistling Dixie for Secession:-

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