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Trump and MAGA are a danger to democracy
Sep 14^th, 2024 at 9:22am

She still believes the lie and is pinning her hopes on Trump pardoning her for the crimes for which she has been convicted and jailed. She is not sorry for what she did, only that it did not work in the end. These people and Trump himself are a danger to democracy in the US. I also don’t believe for a second that if Trump wins in November he will peacefully relinquish the Presidency and will in fact try to alter the Constitution to stay in power longer.

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Reply #1 - Sep 14^th, 2024 at 9:31am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 14^th, 2024 at 9:22am:

and is pinning her hopes on Trump pardoning her for the crimes for which she has been convicted and jailed.

Trump won't pardon her. She was just cannon fodder for his ego. He couldn't give a rats arse what happens to her once she's served her usefulness

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Reply #2 - Sep 14^th, 2024 at 9:35am

John Smith wrote on Sep 14^th, 2024 at 9:31am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 14^th, 2024 at 9:22am:

and is pinning her hopes on Trump pardoning her for the crimes for which she has been convicted and jailed.

Trump won't pardon her. She was just cannon fodder for his ego. He couldn't give a rats arse what happens to her once she's served her usefulness

He will pardon them, no doubt about it. The guy is a lunatic who should never be President again. Watch him shake his head in contempt when the female interviewer lists injuries sustained by Capitol Police on January 6…

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 136358 Gender:	Re: Trump and MAGA are a danger to democracy Reply #3 - Sep 14^th, 2024 at 10:52am Lock her up!
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25793 Gender:	Re: Trump and MAGA are a danger to democracy Reply #4 - Sep 14^th, 2024 at 12:12pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14^th, 2024 at 10:52am: Lock her up! She is - I think she got 3 years if I recall.
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Reply #5 - Sep 14^th, 2024 at 2:59pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 14^th, 2024 at 9:22am:

She still believes the lie and is pinning her hopes on Trump pardoning her for the crimes for which she has been convicted and jailed. She is not sorry for what she did, only that it did not work in the end. These people and Trump himself are a danger to democracy in the US. I also don’t believe for a second that if Trump wins in November he will peacefully relinquish the Presidency and will in fact try to alter the Constitution to stay in power longer.

She doesn't deserve 5 years in prison after 3 years of home detention. BLM rioters, looters, arsonist got of lightly by comparison.

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Reply #6 - Sep 14^th, 2024 at 3:58pm

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2024 at 2:59pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 14^th, 2024 at 9:22am:

She still believes the lie and is pinning her hopes on Trump pardoning her for the crimes for which she has been convicted and jailed. She is not sorry for what she did, only that it did not work in the end. These people and Trump himself are a danger to democracy in the US. I also don’t believe for a second that if Trump wins in November he will peacefully relinquish the Presidency and will in fact try to alter the Constitution to stay in power longer.

She doesn't deserve 5 years in prison after 3 years of home detention.

Correct.

She deserves at least 8.

She got off lightly.

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wombatwoody Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3180 Wombat NSW	Re: Trump and MAGA are a danger to democracy Reply #7 - Sep 14^th, 2024 at 6:15pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14^th, 2024 at 10:52am: Lock her up!
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 136358 Gender:	Re: Trump and MAGA are a danger to democracy Reply #8 - Sep 14^th, 2024 at 7:14pm It's so satisfying watching MAGA criminals go to prison.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40689 Gender:	Re: Trump and MAGA are a danger to democracy Reply #9 - Sep 15^th, 2024 at 11:28am greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14^th, 2024 at 7:14pm: It's so satisfying watching MAGA criminals go to prison. It is vital law and order prevails over whoever commits a crime.
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Reply #10 - Sep 15^th, 2024 at 6:45pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 15^th, 2024 at 11:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 14^th, 2024 at 7:14pm:

It's so satisfying watching MAGA criminals go to prison.

It is vital law and order prevails over whoever commits a crime.

I'd love to see Trump in prison. He belongs there. But it won't happen. No way a Judge will sentence a former President to prison for anything less than murder or a coup d'état.

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Reply #11 - Sep 15^th, 2024 at 9:55pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 14^th, 2024 at 9:22am:

She still believes the lie and is pinning her hopes on Trump pardoning her for the crimes for which she has been convicted and jailed. She is not sorry for what she did, only that it did not work in the end. These people and Trump himself are a danger to democracy in the US. I also don’t believe for a second that if Trump wins in November he will peacefully relinquish the Presidency and will in fact try to alter the Constitution to stay in power longer.........

If President Trump decides to pardon some or all of the non-violent......those that didn't intentionally cause bodily harm.....pardon all of the non-violent patriots of that emotional day, I would back that Presidential decision 110%!!!

As far as to whether the Jan 6th protestors or President Trump could be dangers to an American Democracy.....that could never be.......simply because America is not even a Democracy. Hopefully it will never ever become such a Democracy by any means.

America is a Constitutional Republic..... A REPUBLIC .....not a Democracy.
America was founded as a Constitutional Republic, a Country ruled by a Constitution & not a "mob rule" 50%+1 majority vote of the People. The Founding Fathers didn't want it, & through our American Constitution that they carefully crafted, ensured it would not be a Democracy. As before I reiterate, the United States of America is a Constitutional Republic....based on rules set forth in the Constitution itself, & not changeable via any 'democratic' process except via processes as already contained within.

That said, there are many democratic processes used in our Government, but they only come to bear if they are directed so by the Constitution. The government only has powers to act if those powers are directly authorized by the Constitution.

Your imaginary visions that President Trump would somehow alter the Constitution himself to enable him to retain the title of President past the last day the Constitution expressly authorizes is sheer fantasy.

In order for the President to maintain control of power, the Constitution would have to be amended via the amendment process within the Constitution. There is no act of Congress....or any other way for the President to maintain powers....not so authorized Constitutionally.
To suggest so otherwise would be purely fictional on your part.

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Reply #12 - Sep 16^th, 2024 at 9:28am

Media Assures Americans The Real Threat Is The Side That Keeps Getting Shot At

U.S. — In the wake of yet another assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump, the media sought to assure Americans that the real threat isn't the side doing the shooting.

"The people getting shot at and murdered, they are the real threats," explained CNN correspondent Dana Bash. "Every time you see another attempt to kill a Republican, remember that Democrats are the party of peace and tolerance."

The media also condemned Republicans for using such harsh rhetoric and causing people to try to murder them. "We hereby call on the people getting shot at to stop being mean," Bash went on to say. "I hope if Republicans manage to escape the guy shooting an AK-47, they will consider how hurtful their words can be. It is time the people with bullets whizzing over their heads tone things down."

At publishing time, members of the American media had reiterated that calling Republicans "fascist dictators who must be stopped by any means necessary" was the true message of love and unity.

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Reply #13 - Sep 16^th, 2024 at 9:33am

Panther wrote on Sep 15^th, 2024 at 9:55pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 14^th, 2024 at 9:22am:

She still believes the lie and is pinning her hopes on Trump pardoning her for the crimes for which she has been convicted and jailed. She is not sorry for what she did, only that it did not work in the end. These people and Trump himself are a danger to democracy in the US. I also don’t believe for a second that if Trump wins in November he will peacefully relinquish the Presidency and will in fact try to alter the Constitution to stay in power longer.........

If President Trump decides to pardon some or all of the non-violent......those that didn't intentionally cause bodily harm.....pardon all of the non-violent patriots of that emotional day, I would back that Presidential decision 110%!!!

As far as to whether the Jan 6th protestors or President Trump could be dangers to an American Democracy.....that could never be.......simply because America is not even a Democracy. Hopefully it will never ever become such a Democracy by any means.

America is a Constitutional Republic..... A REPUBLIC .....not a Democracy.
America was founded as a Constitutional Republic, a Country ruled by a Constitution & not a "mob rule" 50%+1 majority vote of the People. The Founding Fathers didn't want it, & through our American Constitution that they carefully crafted, ensured it would not be a Democracy. As before I reiterate, the United States of America is a Constitutional Republic....based on rules set forth in the Constitution itself, & not changeable via any 'democratic' process except via processes as already contained within.

That said, there are many democratic processes used in our Government, but they only come to bear if they are directed so by the Constitution. The government only has powers to act if those powers are directly authorized by the Constitution.

Your imaginary visions that President Trump would somehow alter the Constitution himself to enable him to retain the title of President past the last day the Constitution expressly authorizes is sheer fantasy.

In order for the President to maintain control of power, the Constitution would have to be amended via the amendment process within the Constitution. There is no act of Congress....or any other way for the President to maintain powers....not so authorized Constitutionally.
To suggest so otherwise would be purely fictional on your part.

See, you're using the term "patriot" all wrong. A true patriot is a person who loves their country and wants to see it prosper no matter who the leader is. Patriotism doesn't extend only to a certain person being in the White House. Calling those people who stormed the Capitol on January 6 "patriots" is a disservice to those people who are true patriots, such as those who have served and do serve their country in the armed forces - especially those who have made the ultimate sacrifice. But that's not what Trump thinks - he thinks they're suckers and losers.

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Reply #14 - Sep 16^th, 2024 at 9:46am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 16^th, 2024 at 9:33am:

See, you're using the term "patriot" all wrong. A true patriot is a person who loves their country and wants to see it prosper no matter who the leader is. Patriotism doesn't extend only to a certain person being in the White House.

And yet YOU care very much about who the leader of the country is.
Why? Because it matters.
So your little head- tilt of "no matter who the leader is" is fake and totally insincere.

For example, it does matter if the leader opens the border to millions of illegals because they change the country.

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