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Sep 16th, 2024 at 8:19am
 
Shocking $10k toll bill racked up by 1000 drivers in NSW   Sad
Nearly 1000 Aussies in one state are racking up yearly bills of $10,000 or more, with dozens hitting above $30,000, through one common act.


News.com.au
September 15, 2024

Nearly 1000 motorists in NSW are paying $10,000 or more per year just on tolls, shocking new data has revealed.   Shocked

Individual e-toll data, released for the first time, shows dozens of account holders paying more than $30,000 per year, and 901 drivers whose annual spend is between $10,000 and $20,000.

The data was taken from the government-owned e-toll provider that has more than 1.4 million users. Business accounts and private account holders with more than three tags linked to their account were filtered out.

The state’s top toll payers are overwhelmingly based in western Sydney, and the number of people paying in excess of $10,000 per year is assumed to be much higher, as the data did not take in users whose tags are owned by privately-owned toll provider Linkt.

The state’s highest toll payers are overwhelmingly based in western Sydney and the Central Coast.

Toll spend between July 1 2023 and June 30 2024 reveals WestConnex was the state’s most used toll road, with 43 per cent of motorists, followed by the M7 with 16 per cent, the M5 and Sydney Harbour Bridge and Tunnel with 12 per cent, and the M2 with eight per cent.

Overall, the NSW government says motorists are spending $2.5 billion a year in tolls.   Sad

Roads Minister John Graham said the data was proof the state’s toll system was in urgent need of reform.

“The toll bills at the upper end of the scale are eye-watering in their magnitude and only reinforce the pressing need for toll reform in Sydney,” he said.

“We have nearly 1000 motorists whose annual spend on tolls is in excess of $10,000 which is a significant impost no matter who you are – but the fact is that the drivers paying these sky-high bills are in our western suburbs or central coast where people can least afford it.”


Earlier this year, the NSW government introduced a $60 toll cap for drivers spending between $60 and $400 a week, with a rebate of up to $340 on offer for personal toll trips in a private use vehicle registered in NSW.

The NSW government has vowed to continue work on toll reform.

Mr Graham said work would continue on toll reform, with projections revealing in its current state, the toll network would cost motorists $195 billion in tolls over the next three and a half decades.

“Toll reform is critical for Sydney and this is a once in a generation chance to address it while we continue to offer vital toll relief through the $60 toll cap,” he said.

“Sydney is a place in which people make choices about where they work and how they get around based on the need to avoid paying tolls. The problem grows each year. Over decades, it will become unsustainable and we must act now to create a fairer system.”
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Reply #1 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 8:27am
 
That's one of the best things about living here in Perth and WA.

No toll roads.  Smiley

And, I strongly suspect the WA government knows that it would be political suicide to try and introduce them here.

There was a rumour 25 years ago that the Northbridge Tunnel might be a toll road before it opened in April 2000 but that rumour was (very wisely) dismissed by the State Government at the time.

And it hasn't been brought up again since then.
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Reply #2 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 11:06am
 
I can only assume after near a decade of LNP  ( corrupt under Glady) government the people of Sydney actually voted to become one of the most expensive cities in the world?

A friend travelling from port Macquarie to Bega recently complained it cost him the best part of $50 to navigate through Sydney without stopping.

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Reply #3 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 11:35am
 
Always opposed it, always will.  And never forget who was 'premier' when it was set up and who bought into it at the time as well.  You lot may have been asleep for decades - I haven't.

Another cause of inflation and unemployment .... anyone who works in the city and lives in the 'dormitory suburbs' (anything but sleepers with all the gunfire every night) has to pay a small fortune annually to get to and from work - and that means they will NEED higher and higher wages and salaries to compensate - meaning that Old Dollar Bill either stretches further and further or has more Dollar Bills added to it to pay for the same things, thus creating a flood of money to compensate for yet another rising cost of living.  It's called, in delicate terms - INFLATION!  And it's all designed to keep the lovely flowing to the fat cats (not the ones they are eating in Springfield)...

Can anyone actually convince me that any 'privatised' venture can operate more efficiently given that it has massive overheads before it even gets off the ground - in 'shareholders', duplication of services, etc?  Those roads, of course, they don't even employ toll takers - it's all automatic now ... and I will never forget the time they were doing road works and I couldn't get off at my turn, and was charged double.... for their blocking the exit....

Time to take back the roads and other infrastructure and put those who started it all off on trial... RICO 'EM!



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Reply #4 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 11:38am
 
Went through Sydney and back a few months ago. GPS told me that I'd accrued over $18 in tolls each way. My toll tags battery had died out years ago so I rang them to organise to pay and they said they had no record of my car driving through. Bonus.

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Reply #5 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 12:34pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 11:38am:
Went through Sydney and back a few months ago. GPS told me that I'd accrued over $18 in tolls each way. My toll tags battery had died out years ago so I rang them to organise to pay and they said they had no record of my car driving through. Bonus.




Yeah, well - when they suffered a guilt attack over the cost of people getting to work, and 'repaid' everyone money - I got $80 back that I'd never spent...... still running in surplus since I rarely drive down there... train thanks.
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Reply #6 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 1:37pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 11:35am:
Always opposed it, always will.  And never forget who was 'premier' when it was set up and who bought into it at the time as well.  You lot may have been asleep for decades - I haven't.

Another cause of inflation and unemployment .... anyone who works in the city and lives in the 'dormitory suburbs' (anything but sleepers with all the gunfire every night) has to pay a small fortune annually to get to and from work - and that means they will NEED higher and higher wages and salaries to compensate - meaning that Old Dollar Bill either stretches further and further or has more Dollar Bills added to it to pay for the same things, thus creating a flood of money to compensate for yet another rising cost of living.  It's called, in delicate terms - INFLATION!  And it's all designed to keep the lovely flowing to the fat cats (not the ones they are eating in Springfield)...

Can anyone actually convince me that any 'privatised' venture can operate more efficiently given that it has massive overheads before it even gets off the ground - in 'shareholders', duplication of services, etc?  Those roads, of course, they don't even employ toll takers - it's all automatic now ... and I will never forget the time they were doing road works and I couldn't get off at my turn, and was charged double.... for their blocking the exit....

Time to take back the roads and other infrastructure and put those who started it all off on trial... RICO 'EM!


Once upon a time (in the post WW2 Keynesian 'welfare state' era) governments used to fund public infrastructure via deficit funding.  But the neoliberal Thatcher/Reagan 'small government' revolution  took hold as globalization increased.

The rest is history.

The Greens want the government to fund roads, and recreate the public housing department to ensure eveyone is decently housed (whether renting or owning) but the neoliberal low-taxing dogma is now sacrosanct.

The system will collapse soon, as it churns out biliioniares who avoid paying decent taxes -   especially if climate change is real,  and nations - rich and poor -  have to spend many $trillions on renewables and storage while keeping access to energy affordable for all. 

   




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Reply #7 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 2:15pm
 
Carl D wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 8:27am:
That's one of the best things about living here in Perth and WA.

No toll roads.  Smiley

And, I strongly suspect the WA government knows that it would be political suicide to try and introduce them here.

There was a rumour 25 years ago that the Northbridge Tunnel might be a toll road before it opened in April 2000 but that rumour was (very wisely) dismissed by the State Government at the time.

And it hasn't been brought up again since then.


Western Australia:

- no toll roads

- no pokies in pubs

- no daylight savings

Smiley
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Reply #8 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:22pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 2:15pm:
Carl D wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 8:27am:
That's one of the best things about living here in Perth and WA.

No toll roads.  Smiley

And, I strongly suspect the WA government knows that it would be political suicide to try and introduce them here.

There was a rumour 25 years ago that the Northbridge Tunnel might be a toll road before it opened in April 2000 but that rumour was (very wisely) dismissed by the State Government at the time.

And it hasn't been brought up again since then.


Western Australia:

- no toll roads

- no pokies in pubs

- no daylight savings

Smiley


You really shouldn't talk too soon.

You know how things change.

It'll be your turn next believe me.

Mind you I agree with the current policy in WA.

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Reply #9 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:31pm
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:22pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 2:15pm:
Carl D wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 8:27am:
That's one of the best things about living here in Perth and WA.

No toll roads.  Smiley

And, I strongly suspect the WA government knows that it would be political suicide to try and introduce them here.

There was a rumour 25 years ago that the Northbridge Tunnel might be a toll road before it opened in April 2000 but that rumour was (very wisely) dismissed by the State Government at the time.

And it hasn't been brought up again since then.


Western Australia:

- no toll roads

- no pokies in pubs

- no daylight savings

Smiley


You really shouldn't talk too soon.

You know how things change.

It'll be your turn next believe me.

Mind you I agree with the current policy in WA.



Nah.

Politicians here know that those three things are off-limits.

Any party that tried to introduce any of those would be given their marching orders immediately.

We don't do tolls, pokies or DLS in WA - it's an unwritten law.
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