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Sep 17th, 2024 at 12:23am
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-s-history-in-focus-at-truth-...

Ooooh - look at this one!   Using the legislated power of government to impose yet another one-sided discussion by a minority, and over everyone else (lawfare).....

Getting in before the next election disaster - about as useful in 'reconciling' anything as Ruddski's crawling apology, that merely stirred them up to make more and greater demands.... until the country is totally divided.

All this will do is stir them up again and make them think they have rights to demand - so off we go again in the never-ending cycle in which THEIR problems in relating to the 21st Century will only get worse again.
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Reply #1 - Sep 20th, 2024 at 8:46pm
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-truth-telling-inquiry-hears-...

Cherbourg - Aboriginal Reserve west of Brisbane...... Westoship .... be fascinating to hear their 'lived experience' in terms of what they received and what else happened.

Interesting - is it proven that outsiders were allowed to stay with the boys etc?
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Reply #2 - Sep 21st, 2024 at 10:09am
 
This is in the Courier Mail today Sat 21 Sept 2024.

As part of the Truth Telling Enquiry this woman recounts her mother telling her how she & family escaped a "brutal massacre" in the Palmer River Gold Fields.

This woman would be not much older than I am so her mother would not have been born any earlier than my parents i.e. 1924 for my father who died aged 96 in 2020 & my mother aged 92 died in 2022.

The Palmer River massacre occurred in the 1870's the largest at Battle Camp was in 1873.

This woman says her grandmother was shot & killed and her mother shot in the hip.

I do not believe her mother was born in the late 1800's - her grandmother maybe but I doubt it.
And  how are there photos of Grandma taken around the same time as her mothers in the article if she was shot & killed?

The story/so called truth telling doesn't make sense.

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ELDER REVEALS FAMILY’S ESCAPE
FROM BRUTAL MASSACRE
IWAN JONES

A prominent Indigenous elder has opened up on her family’s incredible story of survival after her mother escaped a brutal massacre after being
shot
, while she was removed from her family in her teens as part of the
Stolen Generation in an emotional day at the Truth-Telling Inquiry.

A proud descendant of the Ghunghanghi People of Yarrabah, North Queensland, Aunty Flo Watson OAM told the Truth-Telling Inquiry at the
Brisbane Convention and Exhibition Centre on Friday of her family’s incredible story of survival to the present day.

She began by sharing the lived experience of members of her family, who
were shot at and killed during a massacre at Palmer River.


Her grandmother Mary Palmer was shot and killed by the troopers, while
her mother Doris ‘Sira’ Choikee, who was a child at that point, was shot in
the hip while running away.


One of the pretty bad massacres on the Palmer River that she was a part of,” Aunty Flo said.

“Her mother was shot and killed trying to save her and she was shot in the hip trying to save our little brother, and her sister, my aunty, Rose Maycan Grogan was headbutted trying to run away.

“So she believes that she was about four when she left.

“I remember she showed us the bullet wound where it went and it went from her hip to her toes, they never took it out, and yeah, she limped her whole life.

“It was a pretty nasty massacre – pretty bad in the Palmer River.”

Following the massacre, the survivors were forced to walk from Maytown
to Cooktown, a journey of 279km by road in the present day, while shackled in chains.


“From Cooktown they walked from – they had to walk in chains from Maytown to Cooktown,” Aunty Flo said.


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Reply #3 - Sep 21st, 2024 at 11:38am
 
It's always interesting to read what lead up to these 'massacres' - it seems most, if not all, were in retaliation for murders and such.

She walked 279 km in chains with a bullet wound that ran from hip to foot?  That's some bullet - and never removed.

You are right - sounds more and more like a campfire story.... the more often it is repeated and then used to scare the kids into behaving (the Wharteyman will get you!), the bigger it gets.

1873 - she said 1930 - Civil War re-enactment?:-

https://c21ch.newcastle.edu.au/colonialmassacres/detail.php?r=671

No details on why 108 people would suddenly get up and go hunting miles away, leaving their work, properties, mines and families (if they had one) ... apparently for no reason other than a few weeks hunting Blacks who lived miles away (110km Cooktown to Palmer).  Most on foot - 108 + native troopers with only 31 horses.

Sounds unlikely without some overwhelming reason.

Only the start and this is becoming Fantasies Around The Campfire - clearly this and the other story were thrown in first for 'shock and awe' = impact, with the aim of shocking everyone so much that they'll just swallow all the rest without question while bleating over the poor Aborigines again - but when even looked at quickly, the stories hold no water at all.  1873 does not equal 1930.

Is there a land claim looming here?

for reference:-

https://c21ch.newcastle.edu.au/colonialmassacres/timeline.php

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Reply #4 - Sep 24th, 2024 at 7:43pm
 
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Reply #5 - Sep 24th, 2024 at 7:55pm
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-police-commissioner-acknowle...

Chequered history all right - and getting more chequered by the telling... most such events were examples of kicking the bigger dog and getting wasted as a result.  Kill some people, kill some stock, burn some crops, steal some stuff ... oops... here come the troopers, one, two three... run, Jackie-Jackie...

Jimmy Governor took an axe
Gave some women forty whacks
Then Whartey chased him here and there
Finally hung him in the air.


Some rellie of the Eld Gel shot his mate or brother or whatever near Wingham... saved a trial....
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Reply #6 - Sep 30th, 2024 at 4:28pm
 
No first class, world class hospitals in the Torres Straits!!  Who would EVER have thunk that?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/failing-health-system-in-torres-strait-...

The old model of the witch doctor would solve all the problems faster ............. the new model of the State of Aborasia would mean that state would fund facilities closer to home and more in line with traditional values, no?

Imagine being flown free a thousand km just to receive costly and equipment heavy treatment for illness.... it should all be at the front door!!

Where'd the $40Bn in funding go?
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Reply #7 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 7:27am
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/markets/bundaberg-farmers-fear-for-water-securit...

This will play out in an interesting way .... control over water coming up!!  Little bit - little bit....

The way all these little bits accumulate across all of Australia, it's no wonder the likes of Skanka and Methra are frantic with worry about their revelation... being open to public discussion is anathema to any agenda pursued by stealth.... shine a torch in the darkest corners and you see the fattest rats ...
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Reply #8 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 2:29pm
 
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Reply #9 - Oct 26th, 2024 at 11:19am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 12:23am:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-s-history-in-focus-at-truth-...

Ooooh - look at this one!   Using the legislated power of government to impose yet another one-sided discussion by a minority, and over everyone else (lawfare).....

Getting in before the next election disaster - about as useful in 'reconciling' anything as Ruddski's crawling apology, that merely stirred them up to make more and greater demands.... until the country is totally divided.

All this will do is stir them up again and make them think they have rights to demand - so off we go again in the never-ending cycle in which THEIR problems in relating to the 21st Century will only get worse again.


Link not available there Graps.
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Reply #10 - Oct 26th, 2024 at 12:43pm
 
Well - lookee here - a LIST of areas affected by freehold without payment claims up thar in Sunny Queenslund:-

https://stephenandrew.com.au/2024/08/15/minister-names-15-queensland-towns-facin...

This'll be enough for yez to chew over and weep:-

"Minister names 15 Queensland Towns facing Freehold Title land claims
On 1 May 2024, I raised concerns over the proposed transfer of ‘unallocated state lands’ at Toobeah, under the Aboriginal Land Act 1991 (ALA), in a Question on Notice (QON) to the Resources Minister.

I asked what steps had been taken to ensure the Toobeah community were included in the decision-making process and how the transfer would impact the town’s access to its water facilities and recreational areas.

I also asked how many other towns were currently the subject of land transfer applications in Queensland.

The Minister’s response was that “broad community consultation” is NOT required under the ALA (based on NT’s Land Rights Act), but that 15 other towns have had freehold land transfer applications lodged against town lands, although the towns themselves were not named.

This caused quite a stir at the time, with many media outlets slamming Labor for the overly-secretive nature of these land transfers, ALL of which are done by ‘Ministerial Declaration’, completely outside the usual Parliamentary or Judicial processes."
    Augathella (pop 328);

    Boonaroo (pop 371);

    Croydon (pop. 215);

    Duchess (pop. 53);

    Eurong, Fraser Island (pop. 11);

    Happy Valley, Fraser Island (pop 152);

    Laura (pop. 133);

    Maryborough (pop. 15,287);

    Mount Isa (pop. 18,317);

    Rainbow Beach (pop. 1220);

    River Heads (pop. 2044);

    Roma (pop. 6,838);

    Thargomindah (pop. 243);

    Theodore (pop. 451); and

    Toobeah (pop. 149).

The Minister also confirmed that since 1991, an astonishing 6.7 million hectares have been “transferred over to freehold Aboriginal lands” under the ALA.

The important thing to understand about these ALA land transfers, is that they have NOTHING whatsoever to do with Native Title determinations."
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Reply #11 - Oct 26th, 2024 at 12:45pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 11:19am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 12:23am:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-s-history-in-focus-at-truth-...

Ooooh - look at this one!   Using the legislated power of government to impose yet another one-sided discussion by a minority, and over everyone else (lawfare).....

Getting in before the next election disaster - about as useful in 'reconciling' anything as Ruddski's crawling apology, that merely stirred them up to make more and greater demands.... until the country is totally divided.

All this will do is stir them up again and make them think they have rights to demand - so off we go again in the never-ending cycle in which THEIR problems in relating to the 21st Century will only get worse again.


Link not available there Graps.


They pulled that one fast.

Just google

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=queensland+truth+telling+inwu...

Plenty of meat there - read the government blurbs... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Secede Now - Avoid The Rush!!
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Reply #12 - Oct 26th, 2024 at 11:08pm
 
The tragedy is this:-

All these fools running around like headless chooks, working out how they can force the ordinary people of Australia who've worked and saved to buy their own homes and businesses and farms and so forth, and paid for the infrastructure of the nation, to pay rent to a bunch of losers who make little effort for themselves.... are not helping the Aborigines - they are deliberately leading them astray by lying to them that they have some right to do exactly this - just demand and obtain owned land and properties and such, for no payment whatsoever, and then charge rent on it.

What sort of raving lunatic came up with that one?  What kind of raving lunatic supports the idea?

Meanwhile all these Aborigines refuse to go to school and such, get jobs and such - because they are waiting for the Big Cargo Cult In The Sky from these mad people who are offering this insanity to them as some 'right'.... and therefore are simply staying in the same place, treading water and hoping not to drown too soon.

Now that ridiculous lifeline has been pulled - what will they do now?

The People Have Spoken!  They told governments not to go ahead with all the voice components - governments went ahead..... now governments that did this are falling.... and it couldn't happen to a more stupid bunch of clowns.
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Reply #13 - Oct 27th, 2024 at 9:41am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 11:08pm:
The People Have Spoken!  They told governments not to go ahead with all the voice components - governments went ahead..... now governments that did this are falling.... and it couldn't happen to a more stupid bunch of clowns.


Predictably, you twist every development into some distorted “proof” of your version of events. But, as usual, you’re not just misrepresenting the truth—you’re outright lying, despite having been corrected repeatedly. Your name has become little more than a joke, like calling a giant “Tiny.”

The nation rejected a constitutionally enshrined Indigenous advisory body, The Voice—one component of the Uluru Statement. Yet the other elements remain, backed by Labor’s clear election commitments. Any further action on these is not “The Voice by stealth” nor “voice components” sneaked in against public will. This is a simple, irrefutable fact.

One has to wonder why you find your position so weak that you resort to such relentless, transparent dishonesty.
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Reply #14 - Oct 27th, 2024 at 11:42am
 
The proof is in the voting  - your smokescreen and insult/abuse rhetoric while you desperately retreat from reality is clear to everyone.

I TOLD YOU SO!!


What is interesting about this Queensland collapse of the Neo-Socio-Fascist Dictatorial regime (that part of that regime up there, Kazaly) is how one pundit proclaimed that this would HELP Labor at Federal level, due to the incredible unpopularity of that 'government' up there.

Well - when you start to create dictatorial 'laws' giving the 'minister' the absolute right to determine whether or not a country town should be handed over freehold to one group without payment and without any duty of consultation with those who LIVE... THERE (they'll eat the dogs); when you actively pursue Apartheid; when you choose the path of not bringing those 'disadvantaged' up to the level where they can be productive to and of themselves, but choose rather to bring down the rights of All Others to equal right to obtain land, to access to their own country and its natural icons, and to have input to the very things that affect their daily lives and attempt thereby to create of them New Serfs who will do your dictatorial bidding  ...... well - you're just doomed to failure.

There is something genuinely seriously psychiatrically wrong with those people who came up with this idea, and then developed it into their plan and their agenda.  All those responsible, including at the academic level, should be dismissed and forced to pay reparations for the damage they have caused so far.

Here's a hint for all the other states - take a good long hard look at what you have wrought and are attempting to create as the future for this country - your Madness of Division, Apartheid, Black Supremacism, and eventual Civil War.

Many thought that Victoria the Darkened Land was the most 'socialist' - I wouldn't insult the Socialists since I am one of the people, by the p;eople and for the people ENTIRE... so the correct term is Ultra-Socialist Neo-Fascists - (CONDOMs - Characters Of No Definite or Obvious Morality) - but the reality has been that Queensland up there Kazaly, with its absurd governmental assumption that 'those outside The Rumphole State of Brisdrain' are just semi-literate bumpkin hill billies who will do as they are told, has been the very spearpoint of Apartheid, evidence for which you need only look at Cape York (where the space port is now being mooted = lovely 'rent' and 'royalties', eh?).  Money not earned, but just handed around like lollies in the Cargo Cult.

That Queensland disease started from there and began to expand under the impetus of Albo I - and now the People Have Spoken!

Ho Chi!  Jacinta down there (the Victorian joke sheila 'premier' Fascist)!  Whoever the turkey is in SA and WA and Tasway - HEED WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU LOUD AND CLEAR!  Do it NOW!

NO MORE APARTHEID!

NO MORE DIVISION!

NO MORE BLACK SUPREMACISM MOVEMENT!
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