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Reply #31 - Oct 31^st, 2024 at 5:37am

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 7:00am:

Gnads wrote on Oct 27^th, 2024 at 12:41pm:

The relentless dishonesty is coming from the State Labor Govt. No transparency in their dealing with "Inalienable Freehold" Native Title claims that are to affect 15 towns and cities across Queensland.

So yes this is all part and parcel of implementing components of the Uluru Statement and Voice by stealth.

So with a bit of luck now QLD has a change of Govt some of these claims & their lack of detail will be made public and hopefully rejected.

Grap’s not alone here. The core issue that plagues you and your crowd is Native Title laws, an entirely legitimate subject of discussion. But rather than addressing it directly, you play the perpetual victims, painting The Voice as some covert attack to win pity and bolster your feeble argument.

What you fail to grasp is that these layers of deceit only sabotage your credibility.

Your fragile egos and personality disorders trap you in this cycle where admitting any mistake would mean conceding defeat, so you double down, pouring out lie upon lie, and escalating to personal attacks when challenged.

This doesn’t strengthen your case; it crumbles it, exposing you as utterly incapable of engaging in a discussion or debate in good faith.

For anyone foolish enough to give you the benefit of the doubt, they’ll quickly see what happened with Grap and me: I extended respect, even-handedly answered his questions, reached across the aisle, only to have him respond shi

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in his hand before reaching back or simply just flinging his own filth at me.

It’s time you drop the faux tough-guy act and this delusion that repeating lies somehow makes them true.

Nobody outside your self-affirming echo chamber is buying it, and the only audience left for you is yourselves, patting each other on the back for how deep you’ve managed to dig this pit.

More SadSackashyte - horseshyte.

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Reply #32 - Oct 31^st, 2024 at 5:46am

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 2:48pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 2:26pm:

Land Grabs are part of the voice - the voice was the grease to smooth the pathway, and was the first part of the thrust - the spearpoint.

The Voice proposal sought to establish a constitutionally enshrined Indigenous Advisory Body to Parliament.

Crucially, legislative authority would remain with the Government; the Voice was advisory, not legislative.

The suggestion that the Voice relates to "land grabs" is a misrepresentation. These issues are entirely distinct.

Yet you persist in conflating them, exploiting the recent referendum rejection of the Voice to stoke unfounded fears. You seek to smear every Indigenous issue you find objectionable by linking it to the Voice, spinning a narrative of "stealth implementation" as though the outcome of the referendum should delegitimise unrelated Indigenous concerns.

Let’s be clear: this narrative is a fabrication. You've been exposed in this distortion, even going as far as to redefine the Voice to suit your agenda.

The facts are unambiguous and they are not in your favour. Persisting in these misrepresentations, even a year later, will not make them true.

Get with it, as they say, slick.

Why? why when they have hundreds & more advisory bodies?

Why would we need a "race based" advisory body enshrined in our constitution?

That's one of the main reasons the Voice went down.

What continues to happen with land grabs & the talk of Truth(s) telling, treaties and reparations all came out of the Uluru statement and so did the concept of the Voice.

Therein lies the fabrications.

So woke leftoid moronicmarsupial it's you who needs to get with it, stop your virtue signaling ..... because you're definitely not slick.

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Re: More Queensland Lawfare
Reply #33 - Oct 31^st, 2024 at 5:47am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 30^th, 2024 at 11:45pm:

David Crisafulli's pledge to change laws on crime by Christmas

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/david-crisafulli-s-pledge-to-change-law...

"Incoming Queensland premier has pledged policies will be in place to charge youth offenders as adults in the state by Christmas."

We'll see

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Reply #34 - Oct 31^st, 2024 at 7:04am

Gnads wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 5:46am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 2:48pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 2:26pm:

Land Grabs are part of the voice - the voice was the grease to smooth the pathway, and was the first part of the thrust - the spearpoint.

The Voice proposal sought to establish a constitutionally enshrined Indigenous Advisory Body to Parliament.

Crucially, legislative authority would remain with the Government; the Voice was advisory, not legislative.

The suggestion that the Voice relates to "land grabs" is a misrepresentation. These issues are entirely distinct.

Yet you persist in conflating them, exploiting the recent referendum rejection of the Voice to stoke unfounded fears. You seek to smear every Indigenous issue you find objectionable by linking it to the Voice, spinning a narrative of "stealth implementation" as though the outcome of the referendum should delegitimise unrelated Indigenous concerns.

Let’s be clear: this narrative is a fabrication. You've been exposed in this distortion, even going as far as to redefine the Voice to suit your agenda.

The facts are unambiguous and they are not in your favour. Persisting in these misrepresentations, even a year later, will not make them true.

Get with it, as they say, slick.

Why? why when they have hundreds & more advisory bodies?

Why would we need a "race based" advisory body enshrined in our constitution?

That's one of the main reasons the Voice went down.

I'm not here to advocate for The Voice. The people spoke, and they said No—case closed.

What remains is a pervasive issue: dishonest actors like Crappler consistently distort the discussion. They conflate every Indigenous-related matter they find unpalatable, such as Land Rights and Native Title, with The Voice. This is a deliberate misrepresentation, crafted to falsely suggest these issues were also rejected by the referendum.

Let’s clarify, once and for all, for those insistent on peddling deceit. The referendum concerned a constitutional amendment to enshrine an Indigenous advisory body, meant to provide counsel to the government of the day. It was a single, well-defined issue.

This vote was not about Native Title, not about where to place onions on a Bunnings snag, nor about which sporting code reigns supreme. It was one matter, clearly articulated.

Yet some of the more shameless, deceitful characters among us have resorted to redefining “The Voice” as a catch-all for issues they disagree with to get around this obvious truth. This is nothing but a transparent, desperate attempt to manipulate the narrative to suit their agenda of the day.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11^th, 2024 at 11:35pm:

The Voice is now the generic term for the coup attempt to install Aboriginal Supremacism.... everything evolves..... and everything is lumped under one title for convenience....

But all that did was serve to further undermine them and expose what they were trying to do.

So, there is no need to defend or attack the idea of the voice, it's done, the people voted.

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What continues to happen with land grabs & the talk of Truth(s) telling, treaties and reparations all came out of the Uluru statement and so did the concept of the Voice.

Therein lies the fabrications.

So woke leftoid moronicmarsupial it's you who needs to get with it, stop your virtue signaling ..... because you're definitely not slick.

I'll grant you this: at least you recognise that The Voice was one element of the Uluru Statement. The referendum was a vote on The Voice alone, not on the entire Uluru Statement. The Government, having committed to the Uluru Statement as part of its electoral mandate, should therefore pursue the remaining elements.

This is not “The Voice by stealth.” If anything, think of it as “The Uluru Statement by openness.”

You're free to object to the other elements of the Uluru Statement. However, don’t misrepresent these initiatives as “The Voice,” nor deceive by suggesting they were already voted down in the referendum. Reality has a way of catching up with those who twist it to fit their narrative.

A lesson the certain tantrum-throwing malcontents among us would do well to heed.

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Re: More Queensland Lawfare
Reply #35 - Oct 31^st, 2024 at 8:56am

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31^st, 2024 at 7:04am: