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Reply #45 - Oct 31st, 2024 at 5:48pm
 
Removing context is as big a lie as Albo's one page....

Are you getting over your petulance, or do you intend to persist with it? You won't 'win' you know - only alienate over 60% of the Australian population..... and you won't ever change anyone's mind over the truth.....

Here's a hint - in pushing your agenda - it's time to find better and more reasoned and reasonable ways of getting a few things for the Aborigines... the sneakiness and snarkiness of the Voice By Stealth is not going to do it for you.... that will only bring disaster on the entire venture....

Now then... you've been offered:-

1. their own state/Park in which they can 'do things their way' to their heart's content - you screamed 'racist'

2. their own sovereignty and total removal from the evil White Man's Way - in their own state totally shut off - you screamed 'racist'

3. the opportunity to earn a few dollars through safaris and through taking on the responsibilities of guarding Gon'Mo (in the ABC news last night - Mornington Island - some poor old lady there couldn't afford the groceries that needed to be shipped 2148 km to get to her... I had that earmarked as Gon'Mo) ... you screamed 'racist'

4. when the offer was made that every family could perhaps be granted a house block to build a home on - an excellent deal given how hard All Others need to work and save to get the same - to satisfy all 'land claims' - while continuing with Native Title Rights to shared usage etc - you screamed 'racist'

4. when they are refused the 'right' to demand huge chunks of settled land as freehold while retaining native title rights and when having some odd religious 'right' to close off national icons to suit themselves is rejected - you scream racist

5. according to you and your kind, it's not 'racist' for anyone to demand their own state, their own way, their own sovereignty, zero interference from The White Man's Way (meaning no land cruisers, Macca's etc), huge swathes of settled and developed land and some mythical 'right' to close off national icons on some absurd religious basis - all on the basis of their race; those things, to you, are not Apartheid or segregation........ yet the moment someone OFFERS them each and every one of those things while rejecting the blatantly absurd - all you do is scream RACIST...

What is the matter with you?  You can't have it both ways; and you can't scream racist at people simply trying to help by offering your wayward Abos what they claim to want and for refusing those things that are totally unreasonable and even illegal...
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Re: More Queensland Lawfare
Reply #46 - Oct 31st, 2024 at 6:17pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:26am:
Gnads wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 10:54am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 9:19am:
You don't have to agree or go along with the other elements of the Uluru Statement.

Just stop pretending we all voted against the whole thing already.

We didn't.

We voted against altering the Constitution to recognise the First Peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

Nothing more.

You and the other mouth breathers might think you voted against every Indigenous issue at the referendum, but you didn't.


The other issues are what's being done by stealth.


How are they being done by stealth, they were taken to the electorate?


No they weren't ... you're the one claiming that all that was voted on/taken to the electorate was the constitutional change to enshrine an Aboriginal advisory body to the Parliament. Yes?

You're admitting you're actually wrong in your whole outlook on what's really going on.
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Reply #47 - Oct 31st, 2024 at 6:18pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:30am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:29am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:26am:
Gnads wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 10:54am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 9:19am:
You don't have to agree or go along with the other elements of the Uluru Statement.

Just stop pretending we all voted against the whole thing already.

We didn't.

We voted against altering the Constitution to recognise the First Peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

Nothing more.

You and the other mouth breathers might think you voted against every Indigenous issue at the referendum, but you didn't.


The other issues are what's being done by stealth.


How are they being done by stealth, they were taken to the electorate?



DUH - they were voted down and then the state governments of the same political group took the reins and started to run with the runaway cart with no wheels ....  THAT'S how it is being attempted by stealth.

You can't be that slow... wait a minute..... I apologise - you can be that slow.


Oh?

The state governments are changing The Australian Constitution?



You're just being an obtuse phukwit.
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Reply #48 - Oct 31st, 2024 at 6:31pm
 
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Reply #49 - Nov 1st, 2024 at 8:51am
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 6:18pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:30am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:29am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:26am:
Gnads wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 10:54am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 9:19am:
You don't have to agree or go along with the other elements of the Uluru Statement.

Just stop pretending we all voted against the whole thing already.

We didn't.

We voted against altering the Constitution to recognise the First Peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

Nothing more.

You and the other mouth breathers might think you voted against every Indigenous issue at the referendum, but you didn't.


The other issues are what's being done by stealth.


How are they being done by stealth, they were taken to the electorate?



DUH - they were voted down and then the state governments of the same political group took the reins and started to run with the runaway cart with no wheels ....  THAT'S how it is being attempted by stealth.

You can't be that slow... wait a minute..... I apologise - you can be that slow.


Oh?

The state governments are changing The Australian Constitution?



You're just being an obtuse phukwit.


I'm sorry reality is so unpalatable for you, but you know what they say about your feelings and all...
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Re: More Queensland Lawfare
Reply #50 - Nov 1st, 2024 at 9:41am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 1st, 2024 at 8:51am:
Gnads wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 6:18pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:30am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:29am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 11:26am:
Gnads wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 10:54am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31st, 2024 at 9:19am:
You don't have to agree or go along with the other elements of the Uluru Statement.

Just stop pretending we all voted against the whole thing already.

We didn't.

We voted against altering the Constitution to recognise the First Peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

Nothing more.

You and the other mouth breathers might think you voted against every Indigenous issue at the referendum, but you didn't.


The other issues are what's being done by stealth.


How are they being done by stealth, they were taken to the electorate?



DUH - they were voted down and then the state governments of the same political group took the reins and started to run with the runaway cart with no wheels ....  THAT'S how it is being attempted by stealth.

You can't be that slow... wait a minute..... I apologise - you can be that slow.


Oh?

The state governments are changing The Australian Constitution?



You're just being an obtuse phukwit.


I'm sorry reality is so unpalatable for you, but you know what they say about your feelings and all...



I've said it before - you and reality are poles apart.

Get back in your fart bubble.
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Reply #51 - Nov 1st, 2024 at 11:13am
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 1st, 2024 at 9:41am:
I've said it before - you and reality are poles apart.

Get back in your fart bubble.


Yeah you keep saying it, but it doesn't make it true.

I can link you to the evidence that forms my opinions.

You have feelings and trust me bro.

Just like Crappler, only he takes it a step further and redefines terms to suit his agenda.

Poor form, the both of you.
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Reply #52 - Nov 1st, 2024 at 6:16pm
 
Apartheid, Australian Model.

Happy now?   Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

You truly are hilarious and you are literally falling apart daily.  Why don't you just give up and take a break and come back with a clear head?
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Reply #53 - Dec 29th, 2024 at 10:05pm
 
Put it to a vote of the people:-

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/major-development-in-native-title-fight...

"A recently elected state government has revealed it will continue the fight against a Native Title claim over a famed island tourist destination.

David Crisafulli's LNP Queensland government, which was elected in October, has announced it will fight the most recent Native Title claim over Great Keppel-Woppa Island, which was also opposed by its Labor predecessor in office.

The Woppaburra people have lodged a claim for exclusive use of the 9sq/km island, including the former resort site and airstrip that was denied them because they were privately leased.   

However, the resort site was abandoned by Tower Holdings in 2008 and its works had been left to decay until they were demolished in 2018 under the former Labor government, which canceled the lease after waiving nearly $900,000 in unpaid rent.

Having already been recognised in 2021 as the Native Title holders of 570sq/km of land and sea over Great Keppel-Woppa Island the traditional owners submitted a second native claim that includes the resort.

However, the LNP government said the resort site has been earmarked for redevelopment and will fight to keep it as Crown land.

A Department of Natural Resources and Mines, Manufacturing, and Regional and Rural Development spokesperson said the Native Tile claim has 'already been ruled to have native title extinguished as part of a previous ruling'.

'The Queensland Government will continue to challenge the claim regarding the extinguished areas,' they told the Courier Mail.

'Great Keppel Island has significant tourism potential, and job and business opportunities, however the immediate priority is to make the island safe.'

Woppaburra Saltwater Aboriginal Corporation chairperson Fred Saunders earlier this year said the Native Title claim had been motivated by concern over environmental impacts the rotting resort was creating.

He said the $30million tourism revival plan committed by the previous Labor government for the island would not be affected by the claim.

'We are protective of our sacred areas and will maintain our cultural responsibilities, but the Woppaburra people are not about restriction, anti-development and locking up lands,' he said.

'We are about sustainable environmental approaches to safeguard the islands beauty to make it an attractive destination for all visitors'.

The government spokesperson said a clean up of the site will begin in the new year.

As part of it rejuvenation Pensar Construction Group has been awarded a $8.6million council contract to reconstruct the island's outdated sewage treatment plant.
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