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Reply #195 - Yesterday at 10:17am

Setanta wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:08am:

Sure I can. Every time you post your stupid crap to in reply to a post about Islamic rape and paedophilia as you have done here multiple times. So stop calling the abuse and rape of children by the followers of Islam Islamophobia, it's not.

You want freedom of speech to call people rightly calling out the Islamic rape and torture of children, Islamophobia. I have the right to call out your support for what they do. Tsk, tsk, tsk... indeed. You're sick.

My calls about Islamophobia are not about Rape and Paedophilia. They are about the attitudes of people to Muslims in general and your mistaken belief that they are about Rape and Paedophilia simply show that you, yourself are Islamophobic. You, like all the other Islamophobics seem to believe that all Muslims are Rapists and Paedophiliacs in hiding. Muslims generally find Rape and Paedophilia repugnant just like normal people. Then you have the Rapists and Paedophiliacs which constitute a minority amongst Muslims just as they do amongst Christians. What you have to do is get out and meet some ordinary, everyday Muslims are disabuse yourself from your insane ideas about them. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #196 - Yesterday at 10:25am

Brian Ross wrote Yesterday at 10:17am:

Setanta wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:08am:

Sure I can. Every time you post your stupid crap to in reply to a post about Islamic rape and paedophilia as you have done here multiple times. So stop calling the abuse and rape of children by the followers of Islam Islamophobia, it's not.

You want freedom of speech to call people rightly calling out the Islamic rape and torture of children, Islamophobia. I have the right to call out your support for what they do. Tsk, tsk, tsk... indeed. You're sick.

My calls about Islamophobia are not about Rape and Paedophilia. They are about the attitudes of people to Muslims in general and your mistaken belief that they are about Rape and Paedophilia simply show that you, yourself are Islamophobic. You, like all the other Islamophobics seem to believe that all Muslims are Rapists and Paedophiliacs in hiding. Muslims generally find Rape and Paedophilia repugnant just like normal people. Then you have the Rapists and Paedophiliacs which constitute a minority amongst Muslims just as they do amongst Christians. What you have to do is get out and meet some ordinary, everyday Muslims are disabuse yourself from your insane ideas about them. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Muslims in those English towns knew what was going on. They did not find it repugnant enough to act in order to weed out the child rapists in their midst.
They would have rioted instead if police and politicians had rightly identify Pakistani Muslim culture as the root of the problem.

And police and politicians covered it all up for decades BECAUSE the fear of that rioting and accusations of wacism and Islamophobia - ie exactly what YOU are doing - and not because Muslims find racially motivated sexual exploitation of infidels repugnant. The evidence is precisely the opposite - Muslims condone and accommodate racially motivated sexual abuse and exploitation of infidel girls and violently reject the correct identification of this as wacism and Islamophobia.

You ARE part of the cover-up and therefore of the problem.

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Reply #197 - Yesterday at 11:47am

Brian Ross wrote Yesterday at 10:17am:

Setanta wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 12:08am:

Sure I can. Every time you post your stupid crap to in reply to a post about Islamic rape and paedophilia as you have done here multiple times. So stop calling the abuse and rape of children by the followers of Islam Islamophobia, it's not.

You want freedom of speech to call people rightly calling out the Islamic rape and torture of children, Islamophobia. I have the right to call out your support for what they do. Tsk, tsk, tsk... indeed. You're sick.

My calls about Islamophobia are not about Rape and Paedophilia. They are about the attitudes of people to Muslims in general and your mistaken belief that they are about Rape and Paedophilia simply show that you, yourself are Islamophobic. You, like all the other Islamophobics seem to believe that all Muslims are Rapists and Paedophiliacs in hiding. Muslims generally find Rape and Paedophilia repugnant just like normal people. Then you have the Rapists and Paedophiliacs which constitute a minority amongst Muslims just as they do amongst Christians. What you have to do is get out and meet some ordinary, everyday Muslims are disabuse yourself from your insane ideas about them. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #198 - Yesterday at 12:13pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 11:56am:

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 11:42am:

So why don't the Muslims accept the UN decision to create Israel?

Because they weren't enlightened enough to accept Jewish sovereignty over part of their Muslim lands, with the promise of a shared sovereignty in Jerusalem (as per UN res 181)

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What use is the UN if Muslims can simply ignore it?

Well.....indeed: the UN was crippled at its inception by the neanderthal demand for 'absolute national sovereignty', and veto power for the members of the UN "Security" Council.

Which amounts to a rejection of international law, in the age of MAD....neanderthals never learn.

Once again - they were not historically or traditionally Muslim lands.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48658 Gender:	Re: No Islamophobia envoy yet Reply #200 - Yesterday at 3:51pm Germany attacking Jews was the wrong thing. France not attacking Moslems is the wrong thing. Brian the big tuff soldier boy is to chicken shyte to do his job and deal with the Moslems. Like France, ALP and Democrats - cowards.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18520 Gender:	Re: No Islamophobia envoy yet Reply #202 - Yesterday at 11:22pm If you point out muslims preach it's OK for muslims to rape non muslims some Islamic apologist might call you an Islamophobe.
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Reply #204 - Today at 9:03am

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 12:13pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 11:56am:

Frank wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 11:42am:

So why don't the Muslims accept the UN decision to create Israel?

Because they weren't enlightened enough to accept Jewish sovereignty over part of their Muslim lands, with the promise of a shared sovereignty in Jerusalem (as per UN res 181)

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What use is the UN if Muslims can simply ignore it?

Well.....indeed: the UN was crippled at its inception by the neanderthal demand for 'absolute national sovereignty', and veto power for the members of the UN "Security" Council.

Which amounts to a rejection of international law, in the age of MAD....neanderthals never learn.

Once again - they were not historically or traditionally Muslim lands.

Once again, they were Muslims lands from the Arab conquest in the 7th century.

See how blind RW ideologues deny historical facts.

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Reply #205 - Today at 9:18am

Gnads wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 11:38am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 11:32am:

Gnads wrote on Jan 5^th, 2025 at 11:06am:

They were not & are not illegal settlers.

Says the rejector of international law.

Deplorable.

And you're just dithspicibul. Grin

[highlight]International Law mandated that the Jewish homelend be in the British Mandate of Palestine.[/highlight

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You just conveniently ignore the facts because you support the destruction of Israel & the removal of Jews from the ME

Incorrect. I support international law, in this case, UN res 181..

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A deplorable Jew hater & Islamic terrorist organisations supporter.

Incorrect: one right and two wrongs, as to be expected from a blind RW ideolgue who claims he supports international law, and dnies the fact of the muslim conquest in the 7th century (before intenational law).

Deplorable..

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Reply #206 - Today at 9:28am

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 9:03am:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 12:13pm:

Once again - they were not historically or traditionally Muslim lands.

Once again, they were Muslims lands from the Arab conquest in the 7th century.

See how blind RW ideologues deny historical facts.

Before the Muslim conquest it was Christian lands.
Before that, it was Jewish, called JUDEAH by the Romans, Israel by the Jews. For a thousand years, from about 1000 BC.
And importantly, Jews have lived there continuously ever since. That's at least 1600 years longer than it has been "Muslim land".

Israel WAS created by international law, as a result of the Jews accepting the UN resolution. There is no Palestinian state next to Israel because the Muslims did not accept the same international law, the same UN resolution. Nor another subsequent 5 opportunities to have their own state alongside Israel.

So what DO the Muslims want? In paractical, actual terms?
The elimination of Israel as a Jewish state.

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Reply #207 - Today at 10:39am

Jasin wrote Yesterday at 3:51pm:

Germany attacking Jews was the wrong thing.
France not attacking Moslems is the wrong thing.
Brian the big tuff soldier boy is to chicken shyte to do his job and deal with the Moslems.
Like France, ALP and Democrats - cowards.

Jasin is another rejector of international law, who has decided he can't respond to the issues I raised in the 'Western culture' thread.

Yes, Hitler's antisemitism was insane, and France tolerating Muslim terrorism is regretable.

And Biden - a Democrat, complicit in the ongoing slaughter in Gaza - shows a 'no limits' support for Israel.

Which gets us back to international law, in this case UN res. 181, and why it was never implemented.

Interestingly, Trump is thinking of implementing his own version of 'internationl law' based on America First(!) ; today he said he would not rule out the use of force to acquire the Panama canal and Greenland. (as one comentator said, you can't buy free nations).

The US SHOULD be a party to implementing international law, in this case, UN res. 181, using its vote in the UNSC.

Bur like Jasin, the US doesn't abide by international law.

The reason?

It revolves around the notion of national 'sovereignty'.

National sovereignty is said to be based on the consent of the nation's citizens; but in a democracy, only 50%+1 of the citizens are required to grant 'consent' for the government to rule, according to the nation's Constitution. (In China, consent for the CCP to rule is granted by the Constitution)

The fly in the ointment is citizens' own desires for as much personal autonomy/"freedom" as possible; in its extreme form we see the notion of "sovereign citizens" who reject the legality of rule of law.

The same applies to implentation of international law, ie, individual nation demand the right to act in their own perceived interests, ensuring that war remains the ultimate method of dispute settlement, even in the age of MAD.

We have a problem.

Now, not all Muslims are fundamentalists, and obviously it would be much better if Muslim governments (as opposed to fundamentalist 'sovereign citizens' acting on their perception of the "Law of God', abided by rule of international law instead.

And much better if the US and Israel abided by rule of international law as well.

But it's going to be rough for all Palestinians, both innocent and guilty, if Trump follows though with his promise "all hell will result" if the hostages aren't freed when he becomes President in a fornight's time.

Deplorable; he could impose UN res 181 on the warring parties, since the other members of the UNSC are already on board with UN res 181. (the UNSC possesses 99% of the world's latest military technology, it would be suicidal for individuals or nations to oppose the UNSC acting with one voice in the servioe of international law.

I suspect Brian, defending Islam as a faith, is not aware of the issues surrounding 'sovereign' citizens, national 'sovereignty ', and international law either, which is why the Conservatives here are having a field day piling onto Brian.i

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Reply #208 - Today at 11:01am

Frank wrote Today at 9:28am:

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 9:03am:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 12:13pm:

Once again - they were not historically or traditionally Muslim lands.

Once again, they were Muslims lands from the Arab conquest in the 7th century.

See how blind RW ideologues deny historical facts.

Before the Muslim conquest it was Christian lands.

Correct, but gnads is denying the fact Palestine has been under Muslim control for the last 1300 years - longer than ancient Israel's existance.

Do try to keep up. Sad

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Israel WAS created by international law, as a result of the Jews accepting the UN resolution. There is no Palestinian state next to Israel because the Muslims did not accept the same international law, the same UN resolution. Nor another subsequent 5 opportunities to have their own state alongside Israel.

See my post to Jasin above, which explains the failure of interntional law, and failure to implement UN re 181..

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So what DO the Muslims want? In paractical, actual terms?
The elimination of Israel as a Jewish state.

Today, most Moslem governments , and enJightened MuslIms (of which there are many) would settle for UN res 181.

Educate yourself, read the post to Jasin, above.

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