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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17623 Gender:	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #120 - Nov 9^th, 2024 at 2:00pm I see the State Administrative Tribunal has knocked back the letters Police sent to affected shooters as neither the legislation or the underpinning regulations have been enacted. Also some of the affected people were those convicted in their teens many years ago.
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Reply #121 - Nov 9^th, 2024 at 9:18pm

lee wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 2:00pm:

I see the State Administrative Tribunal has knocked back the letters Police sent to affected shooters as neither the legislation or the underpinning regulations have been enacted. Also some of the affected people were those convicted in their teens many years ago. Roll Eyes

It is what many have come to expect, law thought up by the unelected and it is not WA only.

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Reply #122 - Nov 9^th, 2024 at 9:28pm

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Gun dealer buyback to remove thousands of additional weapons

The Cook Government today announced it will pay licensed gun dealers in Western Australia for surrendered stock ahead of the nation's toughest firearm laws coming into effect.

WA firearms dealers can hand over guns to Western Australia Police in return for cash
The dealer buyback offers business owners an opportunity to unload stock before implementation of the nation's toughest gun laws
New regulations strengthen rules around supply of guns for hunting purposes
Modernised licensing system to result in cost savings for gun owners

Between now and 17 January 2025, licensed WA firearms dealers can hand over guns to the WA Police in return for up to $1,000 in cash, depending on the type, style, calibre and age of each weapon.

The dealer buyback will see thousands of guns removed from towns and suburbs across the State and follows the success of the Cook Government's multimillion-dollar voluntary firearm buyback program

Comments attributed to Police Minister Paul Papalia:

"The licensed dealer gun buyback provides an opportunity for the industry to hand in their weapons before our tough new firearm laws come into effect.

https://www.wa.gov.au/government/media-statements/Cook%20Labor%20Government/Gun-...

Up to $1000 in cash for rifles that cost over $3K

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Reply #123 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 1:35pm

Just Googled shotguns under $ 1,000 and couldn’t find any, of course that’s retail so there might be a few under a thousand at wholesale prices but not many.
.22 rimfire rifles, mostly over the thousand mark.

Seems the WA police are rather out of touch, not unusual for they have suddenly, after more than thirty years, found that the firearm laws are inadequate; what have they been doing all these years?

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41839	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #124 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 1:38pm Are licensed firearm owners law abiding? Yet they are protesting the very laws they agreed to. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17623 Gender:	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #125 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 6:58pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 1:38pm: Are licensed firearm owners law abiding? Yet they are protesting the very laws they agreed to. So where did they agree to the new laws? The legislation was passed in 2024. The election was 2021. The next 2025.
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Reply #126 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 7:12pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 9:18pm:

lee wrote on Nov 9^th, 2024 at 2:00pm:

I see the State Administrative Tribunal has knocked back the letters Police sent to affected shooters as neither the legislation or the underpinning regulations have been enacted. Also some of the affected people were those convicted in their teens many years ago. Roll Eyes

It is what many have come to expect, law thought up by the unelected and it is not WA only.

WA has always been crazy on firearms, it doesn't surprise me at all they have reneged on national firearms laws.

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Reply #127 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 7:14pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

Just Googled shotguns under $ 1,000 and couldn’t find any, of course that’s retail so there might be a few under a thousand at wholesale prices but not many.
.22 rimfire rifles, mostly over the thousand mark.

Seems the WA police are rather out of touch, not unusual for they have suddenly, after more than thirty years, found that the firearm laws are inadequate; what have they been doing all these years?

They'll just move them interstate for sale if they are getting ripped off.

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Labor majority government Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1302 Gender:	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #128 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 7:26pm The liberals and nationals are tearing each other apart over this and it's quite beautiful watching
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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2236 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #129 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 8:40pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 1:38pm: Are licensed firearm owners law abiding? Yet they are protesting the very laws they agreed to. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Brian, You’re not suggesting that there was consultation are you? When and where did this agreement take place? Reference?
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Reply #130 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 8:44pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 8:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 1:38pm:

Are licensed firearm owners law abiding?

Yet they are protesting the very laws they agreed to. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Brian,
You’re not suggesting that there was consultation are you?
When and where did this agreement take place?
Reference?

The laws were passed after Port Arthur in 1996. The Australian people agreed to them in the next election and every election since, Eugene. You claim that you lot are, "law abiding" so why are going against the will of the democratic majority of Australians? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #131 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 8:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 8:44pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 8:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 1:38pm:

Are licensed firearm owners law abiding?

Yet they are protesting the very laws they agreed to. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Brian,
You’re not suggesting that there was consultation are you?
When and where did this agreement take place?
Reference?

The laws were passed after Port Arthur in 1996. The Australian people agreed to them in the next election and every election since, Eugene. You claim that you lot are, "law abiding" so why are going against the will of the democratic majority of Australians? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

They were foisted upon them. I never agreed. While I have no prob with the same laws applying everywhere, we were not asked. Now WA, again, wants to go it's own way.

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #132 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 9:54pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 8:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 8:44pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 8:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 1:38pm:

Are licensed firearm owners law abiding?

Yet they are protesting the very laws they agreed to. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Brian,
You’re not suggesting that there was consultation are you?
When and where did this agreement take place?
Reference?

The laws were passed after Port Arthur in 1996. The Australian people agreed to them in the next election and every election since, Eugene. You claim that you lot are, "law abiding" so why are going against the will of the democratic majority of Australians? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

They were foisted upon them. I never agreed. While I have no prob with the same laws applying everywhere, we were not asked. Now WA, again, wants to go it's own way.

So, you're not, "Law Abiding", then? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #133 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 10:05pm

Setanta wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 7:14pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

Just Googled shotguns under $ 1,000 and couldn’t find any, of course that’s retail so there might be a few under a thousand at wholesale prices but not many.
.22 rimfire rifles, mostly over the thousand mark.

Seems the WA police are rather out of touch, not unusual for they have suddenly, after more than thirty years, found that the firearm laws are inadequate; what have they been doing all these years?

They'll just move them interstate for sale if they are getting ripped off.

It's a taxpayer funded buyback from gun dealers.
These dealers can only sell them to people the police have approved so it will do nothing for public safety.

Apart from air rifles and air pistols not much if anything in gun shops under $1000 brand new.

A quality rimfire like Anshutz are over $3k

There is nothing in this new legislation that deals with criminals using illegal guns.

The sheeple have been brainwashed into guns are bad so they don't question stupid new laws that cost taxpayers a fortune while not doing anything apart from giving a perception they're doing something.

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #134 - Nov 10^th, 2024 at 10:11pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 10^th, 2024 at 10:05pm:

It's a taxpayer funded buyback from gun dealers.
These dealers can only sell them to people the police have approved so it will do nothing for public safety.

Apart from air rifles and air pistols not much if anything in gun shops under $1000 brand new.

A quality rimfire like Anshutz are over $3k

There is nothing in this new legislation that deals with criminals using illegal guns.

The sheeple have been brainwashed into guns are bad so they don't question stupid new laws that cost taxpayers a fortune while not doing anything apart from giving a perception they're doing something.

Another non-Law Abiding gun owner then? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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