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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #150 - Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:06pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:23pm:

Brian,
While on the subject, you know as well as I do that circumventing a proposed law is not breaking the law.

Licensed firearm owners are, as I said, among the most law abiding citizens, the fact that they are trusted by the various Governments to possess lethal weapons, particularly pistols, is proof enough.

They must prove their suitability to possess lethal weapon, which are not allowed to be owned for killing innocent people, unlike the USA. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17621 Gender:	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #151 - Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:11pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:04pm: Oh, dearie, dearie, me, he is proposing to move firearms out of the state, rather than surrender them to the authorities, Lee. Not on the link you posted. Your link goes to the Baron. "Up to $1000 in cash for rifles that cost over $3K"
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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #152 - Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:04pm:

lee wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 6:15pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, here Baron, here.

If you follow that link there is nothing about breaking the law. Bwian the Bullsch!t king. Grin

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, he is proposing to move firearms out of the state, rather than surrender them to the authorities, Lee. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Bwhine the bullshitter is telling more lies

It's not illegal to sell firearms interstate if transaction is done by licensed firearm dealers.

Cite where you claim i proposed people move them out of the state you bullshitter.

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Reply #153 - Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:06pm:

They must prove their suitability to possess lethal weapon

Which is a psych evaluation, carried out yearly, on a certain date. Nothing to do with stressors going forward. And with 90,000 firearm holders they will need to do at least 300 a day, each and every day.

Do they even have enough psych experts available, seeing as mental health is supposed to be in crisis? Shocked

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Reply #154 - Nov 12^th, 2024 at 8:24am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:06pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:23pm:

Brian,
While on the subject, you know as well as I do that circumventing a proposed law is not breaking the law.

Licensed firearm owners are, as I said, among the most law abiding citizens, the fact that they are trusted by the various Governments to possess lethal weapons, particularly pistols, is proof enough.

They must prove their suitability to possess lethal weapon, which are not allowed to be owned for killing innocent people, unlike the USA. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Glad to see that you agree, having proved their suitability they are obviously among the top groups of the law abiding.
Are you considered among the top people or were you refused a license?
Your remark about the USA is pointless, inaccurate, tactless and completely irrelevant.

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Reply #155 - Nov 12^th, 2024 at 8:58am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:58am:

We are law abiding, in fact licensed firearm owners are one of the most law abiding groups in the country.
When we protest against the firearms laws we are exercising our democratic right to object, in case you didn’t know.

Because Australia does background checks, restricts certain firearms, regulates the sale and storage of firearms and only allowes firearms for a specific purpose that does not include self defence....Unlike America were any dickhead can buy a gun and do....America could learn a few things from Australia and save a lot of children from mass shootings in the process!!!

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Reply #156 - Nov 12^th, 2024 at 12:12pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 8:24am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:06pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:23pm:

Brian,
While on the subject, you know as well as I do that circumventing a proposed law is not breaking the law.

Licensed firearm owners are, as I said, among the most law abiding citizens, the fact that they are trusted by the various Governments to possess lethal weapons, particularly pistols, is proof enough.

They must prove their suitability to possess lethal weapon, which are not allowed to be owned for killing innocent people, unlike the USA. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Glad to see that you agree, having proved their suitability they are obviously among the top groups of the law abiding.
Are you considered among the top people or were you refused a license?
Your remark about the USA is pointless, inaccurate, tactless and completely irrelevant.

Is it? You like many gun nuts hold the USA as the paragon as far as gun ownership is concerned. It is a real wild west society over there. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #157 - Nov 12^th, 2024 at 3:53pm

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 8:58am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:58am:

We are law abiding, in fact licensed firearm owners are one of the most law abiding groups in the country.
When we protest against the firearms laws we are exercising our democratic right to object, in case you didn’t know.

Because Australia does background checks, restricts certain firearms, regulates the sale and storage of firearms and only allowes firearms for a specific purpose that does not include self defence....Unlike America were any dickhead can buy a gun and do....America could learn a few things from Australia and save a lot of children from mass shootings in the process!!!

Good to see you join Brian and be among those who recognise lisensed firearm owners as being in the top bracket of law abiding citizens.

Good points, Phil, and what do you think is the problem with countries that have very strict gun laws but have a much higher murder rate than the US?

Pray don’t be bashful but give us the benefit of your insightful intellect.

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Reply #158 - Nov 12^th, 2024 at 3:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 12:12pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 8:24am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:06pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:23pm:

Brian,
While on the subject, you know as well as I do that circumventing a proposed law is not breaking the law.

Licensed firearm owners are, as I said, among the most law abiding citizens, the fact that they are trusted by the various Governments to possess lethal weapons, particularly pistols, is proof enough.

They must prove their suitability to possess lethal weapon, which are not allowed to be owned for killing innocent people, unlike the USA. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Glad to see that you agree, having proved their suitability they are obviously among the top groups of the law abiding.
Are you considered among the top people or were you refused a license?
Your remark about the USA is pointless, inaccurate, tactless and completely irrelevant.

Is it? You like many gun nuts hold the USA as the paragon as far as gun ownership is concerned. It is a real wild west society over there. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Yes it is, completely inaccurate and tasteless etc., etc. but I’m glad you stick to believing that licensed firearm owners are very law abiding.

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Reply #159 - Nov 12^th, 2024 at 3:57pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 3:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 12:12pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 8:24am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:06pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:23pm:

Brian,
While on the subject, you know as well as I do that circumventing a proposed law is not breaking the law.

Licensed firearm owners are, as I said, among the most law abiding citizens, the fact that they are trusted by the various Governments to possess lethal weapons, particularly pistols, is proof enough.

They must prove their suitability to possess lethal weapon, which are not allowed to be owned for killing innocent people, unlike the USA. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Glad to see that you agree, having proved their suitability they are obviously among the top groups of the law abiding.
Are you considered among the top people or were you refused a license?
Your remark about the USA is pointless, inaccurate, tactless and completely irrelevant.

Is it? You like many gun nuts hold the USA as the paragon as far as gun ownership is concerned. It is a real wild west society over there. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Yes it is, completely inaccurate and tasteless etc., etc. but I’m glad you stick to believing that licensed firearm owners are very law abiding.

Only if they obey the law, Eugene. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #160 - Nov 12^th, 2024 at 4:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 3:57pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 3:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 12:12pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 8:24am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:06pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:23pm:

Brian,
While on the subject, you know as well as I do that circumventing a proposed law is not breaking the law.

Licensed firearm owners are, as I said, among the most law abiding citizens, the fact that they are trusted by the various Governments to possess lethal weapons, particularly pistols, is proof enough.

They must prove their suitability to possess lethal weapon, which are not allowed to be owned for killing innocent people, unlike the USA. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Glad to see that you agree, having proved their suitability they are obviously among the top groups of the law abiding.
Are you considered among the top people or were you refused a license?
Your remark about the USA is pointless, inaccurate, tactless and completely irrelevant.

Is it? You like many gun nuts hold the USA as the paragon as far as gun ownership is concerned. It is a real wild west society over there. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Yes it is, completely inaccurate and tasteless etc., etc. but I’m glad you stick to believing that licensed firearm owners are very law abiding.

Only if they obey the law, Eugene. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

What an insightful comment, you are right on the money, they are only law abiding if they obey the law.
Did you reason that out yourself or did you seek advise?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17621 Gender:	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #161 - Nov 12^th, 2024 at 4:32pm He gets his advice from Guido (John Smith).
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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #162 - Nov 12^th, 2024 at 4:34pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 4:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 3:57pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 3:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 12:12pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 8:24am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:06pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:23pm:

Brian,
While on the subject, you know as well as I do that circumventing a proposed law is not breaking the law.

Licensed firearm owners are, as I said, among the most law abiding citizens, the fact that they are trusted by the various Governments to possess lethal weapons, particularly pistols, is proof enough.

They must prove their suitability to possess lethal weapon, which are not allowed to be owned for killing innocent people, unlike the USA. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Glad to see that you agree, having proved their suitability they are obviously among the top groups of the law abiding.
Are you considered among the top people or were you refused a license?
Your remark about the USA is pointless, inaccurate, tactless and completely irrelevant.

Is it? You like many gun nuts hold the USA as the paragon as far as gun ownership is concerned. It is a real wild west society over there. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Yes it is, completely inaccurate and tasteless etc., etc. but I’m glad you stick to believing that licensed firearm owners are very law abiding.

Only if they obey the law, Eugene. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

What an insightful comment, you are right on the money, they are only law abiding if they obey the law.
Did you reason that out yourself or did you seek advise?

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #163 - Nov 12^th, 2024 at 5:34pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 3:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 8:58am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 7:58am:

We are law abiding, in fact licensed firearm owners are one of the most law abiding groups in the country.
When we protest against the firearms laws we are exercising our democratic right to object, in case you didn’t know.

Because Australia does background checks, restricts certain firearms, regulates the sale and storage of firearms and only allowes firearms for a specific purpose that does not include self defence....Unlike America were any dickhead can buy a gun and do....America could learn a few things from Australia and save a lot of children from mass shootings in the process!!!

Good to see you join Brian and be among those who recognise lisensed firearm owners as being in the top bracket of law abiding citizens.

Good points, Phil, and what do you think is the problem with countries that have very strict gun laws but have a much higher murder rate than the US?

Pray don’t be bashful but give us the benefit of your insightful intellect.

I am comparing Western Australia to America....Which countries are you referring to???

Huh

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17621 Gender:	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #164 - Nov 12^th, 2024 at 6:30pm philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2024 at 5:34pm: I am comparing Western Australia to America... How about comparing WA to the rest of Australia. It is the change in laws in Australia, WA in particular, you are championing.
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