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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #165 - Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:12pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 5:34pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 3:53pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 8:58am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 7:58am:
We are law abiding, in fact licensed firearm owners are one of the most law abiding groups in the country.
When we protest against the firearms laws we are exercising our democratic right to object, in case you didn’t know.


Because Australia does background checks, restricts certain firearms, regulates the sale and storage of firearms and only allowes firearms for a specific purpose that does not include self defence....Unlike America were any dickhead can buy a gun and do....America could learn a few things from Australia and save a lot of children from mass shootings in the process!!!


Good to see you join Brian and be among those who recognise lisensed firearm owners as being in the top bracket of law abiding citizens.

Good points, Phil, and what do you think is the problem with countries that have very strict gun laws but have a much higher murder rate than the US?

Pray don’t be bashful but give us the benefit of your insightful intellect.


I am comparing Western Australia to America....Which countries are you referring to???

Huh Huh Huh
Murders per 100,000 population [2022]
Jamaica      53.34
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines      40.41
Trinidad and Tobago      39.52
Saint Lucia      36.7
Honduras      35.09
Bahamas      31.22
Belize      27.88
Ecuador      26.99
Mexico      26.11
Colombia      25.38
All have much tougher gun laws than the USA indeed some of them are much tougher than Australia

USA.        6.81 [2021]

You weren’t comparing WA and the US at all because you gave no facts about the US just a wild uninformed rant.
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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #166 - Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:24pm
 
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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #167 - Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:28pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:12pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 5:34pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 3:53pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 8:58am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 7:58am:
We are law abiding, in fact licensed firearm owners are one of the most law abiding groups in the country.
When we protest against the firearms laws we are exercising our democratic right to object, in case you didn’t know.


Because Australia does background checks, restricts certain firearms, regulates the sale and storage of firearms and only allowes firearms for a specific purpose that does not include self defence....Unlike America were any dickhead can buy a gun and do....America could learn a few things from Australia and save a lot of children from mass shootings in the process!!!


Good to see you join Brian and be among those who recognise lisensed firearm owners as being in the top bracket of law abiding citizens.

Good points, Phil, and what do you think is the problem with countries that have very strict gun laws but have a much higher murder rate than the US?

Pray don’t be bashful but give us the benefit of your insightful intellect.


I am comparing Western Australia to America....Which countries are you referring to???

Huh Huh Huh
Murders per 100,000 population [2022]
Jamaica      53.34
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines      40.41
Trinidad and Tobago      39.52
Saint Lucia      36.7
Honduras      35.09
Bahamas      31.22
Belize      27.88
Ecuador      26.99
Mexico      26.11
Colombia      25.38
All have much tougher gun laws than the USA indeed some of them are much tougher than Australia

USA.        6.81 [2021]

You weren’t comparing WA and the US at all because you gave no facts about the US just a wild uninformed rant.


Australia 0.83 (2022)

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https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-rate-by-country
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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #168 - Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:58pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:28pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:12pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 5:34pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 3:53pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 8:58am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 7:58am:
We are law abiding, in fact licensed firearm owners are one of the most law abiding groups in the country.
When we protest against the firearms laws we are exercising our democratic right to object, in case you didn’t know.


Because Australia does background checks, restricts certain firearms, regulates the sale and storage of firearms and only allowes firearms for a specific purpose that does not include self defence....Unlike America were any dickhead can buy a gun and do....America could learn a few things from Australia and save a lot of children from mass shootings in the process!!!


Good to see you join Brian and be among those who recognise lisensed firearm owners as being in the top bracket of law abiding citizens.

Good points, Phil, and what do you think is the problem with countries that have very strict gun laws but have a much higher murder rate than the US?

Pray don’t be bashful but give us the benefit of your insightful intellect.


I am comparing Western Australia to America....Which countries are you referring to???

Huh Huh Huh
Murders per 100,000 population [2022]
Jamaica      53.34
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines      40.41
Trinidad and Tobago      39.52
Saint Lucia      36.7
Honduras      35.09
Bahamas      31.22
Belize      27.88
Ecuador      26.99
Mexico      26.11
Colombia      25.38
All have much tougher gun laws than the USA indeed some of them are much tougher than Australia

USA.        6.81 [2021]

You weren’t comparing WA and the US at all because you gave no facts about the US just a wild uninformed rant.


Australia 0.83 (2022)

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https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-rate-by-country

Which proves that Australia is a very law abiding country and that there is no need for tougher gun laws, except for the need for political parties to be seen to be doing something.
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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #169 - Nov 16th, 2024 at 11:41am
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:58pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:28pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:12pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 5:34pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 3:53pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 8:58am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 7:58am:
We are law abiding, in fact licensed firearm owners are one of the most law abiding groups in the country.
When we protest against the firearms laws we are exercising our democratic right to object, in case you didn’t know.


Because Australia does background checks, restricts certain firearms, regulates the sale and storage of firearms and only allowes firearms for a specific purpose that does not include self defence....Unlike America were any dickhead can buy a gun and do....America could learn a few things from Australia and save a lot of children from mass shootings in the process!!!


Good to see you join Brian and be among those who recognise lisensed firearm owners as being in the top bracket of law abiding citizens.

Good points, Phil, and what do you think is the problem with countries that have very strict gun laws but have a much higher murder rate than the US?

Pray don’t be bashful but give us the benefit of your insightful intellect.


I am comparing Western Australia to America....Which countries are you referring to???

Huh Huh Huh
Murders per 100,000 population [2022]
Jamaica      53.34
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines      40.41
Trinidad and Tobago      39.52
Saint Lucia      36.7
Honduras      35.09
Bahamas      31.22
Belize      27.88
Ecuador      26.99
Mexico      26.11
Colombia      25.38
All have much tougher gun laws than the USA indeed some of them are much tougher than Australia

USA.        6.81 [2021]

You weren’t comparing WA and the US at all because you gave no facts about the US just a wild uninformed rant.


Australia 0.83 (2022)

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-rate-by-country

Which proves that Australia is a very law abiding country and that there is no need for tougher gun laws, except for the need for political parties to be seen to be doing something.


No further comments from Phil, as he runs for cover.

John Smith, have you found a dictionary yet?
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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #170 - Nov 18th, 2024 at 8:31am
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:58pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:28pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:12pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 5:34pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 3:53pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 8:58am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 7:58am:
We are law abiding, in fact licensed firearm owners are one of the most law abiding groups in the country.
When we protest against the firearms laws we are exercising our democratic right to object, in case you didn’t know.


Because Australia does background checks, restricts certain firearms, regulates the sale and storage of firearms and only allowes firearms for a specific purpose that does not include self defence....Unlike America were any dickhead can buy a gun and do....America could learn a few things from Australia and save a lot of children from mass shootings in the process!!!


Good to see you join Brian and be among those who recognise lisensed firearm owners as being in the top bracket of law abiding citizens.

Good points, Phil, and what do you think is the problem with countries that have very strict gun laws but have a much higher murder rate than the US?

Pray don’t be bashful but give us the benefit of your insightful intellect.


I am comparing Western Australia to America....Which countries are you referring to???

Huh Huh Huh
Murders per 100,000 population [2022]
Jamaica      53.34
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines      40.41
Trinidad and Tobago      39.52
Saint Lucia      36.7
Honduras      35.09
Bahamas      31.22
Belize      27.88
Ecuador      26.99
Mexico      26.11
Colombia      25.38
All have much tougher gun laws than the USA indeed some of them are much tougher than Australia

USA.        6.81 [2021]

You weren’t comparing WA and the US at all because you gave no facts about the US just a wild uninformed rant.


Australia 0.83 (2022)

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-rate-by-country

Which proves that Australia is a very law abiding country and that there is no need for tougher gun laws, except for the need for political parties to be seen to be doing something.


All you have proven is America's gun laws are inadequate where guns are far too easy to obtain without a licence or background check....Australia's laws have broad support from the public unlike America's laws which allow weapons to be purchased unchecked or regulated....Australia does not have a problem with guns, America does dickhead!!!

Murders per 100,000 population
U.S.A.        6.81 [2021]
Australia     0.83 [2022]

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Quote:
Majority in U.S. Continues to Favor Stricter Gun Laws


https://news.gallup.com/poll/513623/majority-continues-favor-stricter-gun-laws.a...
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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #171 - Nov 18th, 2024 at 8:59am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 8:31am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:58pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:28pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 7:12pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 5:34pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 3:53pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12th, 2024 at 8:58am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 11th, 2024 at 7:58am:
We are law abiding, in fact licensed firearm owners are one of the most law abiding groups in the country.
When we protest against the firearms laws we are exercising our democratic right to object, in case you didn’t know.


Because Australia does background checks, restricts certain firearms, regulates the sale and storage of firearms and only allowes firearms for a specific purpose that does not include self defence....Unlike America were any dickhead can buy a gun and do....America could learn a few things from Australia and save a lot of children from mass shootings in the process!!!


Good to see you join Brian and be among those who recognise lisensed firearm owners as being in the top bracket of law abiding citizens.

Good points, Phil, and what do you think is the problem with countries that have very strict gun laws but have a much higher murder rate than the US?

Pray don’t be bashful but give us the benefit of your insightful intellect.


I am comparing Western Australia to America....Which countries are you referring to???

Huh Huh Huh
Murders per 100,000 population [2022]
Jamaica      53.34
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines      40.41
Trinidad and Tobago      39.52
Saint Lucia      36.7
Honduras      35.09
Bahamas      31.22
Belize      27.88
Ecuador      26.99
Mexico      26.11
Colombia      25.38
All have much tougher gun laws than the USA indeed some of them are much tougher than Australia

USA.        6.81 [2021]

You weren’t comparing WA and the US at all because you gave no facts about the US just a wild uninformed rant.


Australia 0.83 (2022)

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-rate-by-country

Which proves that Australia is a very law abiding country and that there is no need for tougher gun laws, except for the need for political parties to be seen to be doing something.


All you have proven is America's gun laws are inadequate where guns are far too easy to obtain without a licence or background check....Australia's laws have broad support from the public unlike America's laws which allow weapons to be purchased unchecked or regulated....Australia does not have a problem with guns, America does dickhead!!!

Murders per 100,000 population
U.S.A.        6.81 [2021]
Australia     0.83 [2022]

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Quote:
Majority in U.S. Continues to Favor Stricter Gun Laws


https://news.gallup.com/poll/513623/majority-continues-favor-stricter-gun-laws.a...

Thank you for the reply, Phil.
Now just answer the question.
With Australia’s very low murder rate and low overall crime rate, why does WA need stricter gun laws?
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Reply #172 - Nov 18th, 2024 at 9:39am
 
Western Australia's gun laws are supported by the majority of the public....Unlike America, Australia does not allow firearms for self defence whilst restricting and regulating firearms....The difference in outcomes for the population supports the fact stricter gun laws have reduced the amount of firearms in the population and ensured those who have forfeited their right cannot obtain a firearm legaly in Australia....The reason Australia has a very low murder rate and low overall crime rate is because of our laws....America could learn from Australia's gun laws....Why does Americe allow convicted fellons and mentaly ill people to purchase firearms....Why does America allow the public to purchase assault weapons....Why does America ignore it's citizens who want stricter rules on gun possesion and do nothing to curb gun crime accept produce more guns???

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Reply #173 - Nov 18th, 2024 at 11:35am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 9:39am:
Western Australia's gun laws are supported by the majority of the public....Unlike America, Australia does not allow firearms for self defence whilst restricting and regulating firearms....The difference in outcomes for the population supports the fact stricter gun laws have reduced the amount of firearms in the population and ensured those who have forfeited their right cannot obtain a firearm legaly in Australia....The reason Australia has a very low murder rate and low overall crime rate is because of our laws....America could learn from Australia's gun laws....Why does Americe allow convicted fellons and mentaly ill people to purchase firearms....Why does America allow the public to purchase assault weapons....Why does America ignore it's citizens who want stricter rules on gun possesion and do nothing to curb gun crime accept produce more guns???

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Can’t answer the question?
Phil, don’t iet your notions of being of inferior intellect stop you from having a go.

Where did you get the nonsense that America allows felons and the mentally ill to purchase weapons?
Where did you get the idea that the public can purchase assault weapons?
Very few US citizens can legally own assault weapons and then only after very strict vetting procedures before a license can be issued.

Bye the way, did you know that the NFA bans knives which have a sheath?
Sounds crazy.
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Reply #174 - Nov 18th, 2024 at 1:44pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 11:35am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 9:39am:
Western Australia's gun laws are supported by the majority of the public....Unlike America, Australia does not allow firearms for self defence whilst restricting and regulating firearms....The difference in outcomes for the population supports the fact stricter gun laws have reduced the amount of firearms in the population and ensured those who have forfeited their right cannot obtain a firearm legaly in Australia....The reason Australia has a very low murder rate and low overall crime rate is because of our laws....America could learn from Australia's gun laws....Why does Americe allow convicted fellons and mentaly ill people to purchase firearms....Why does America allow the public to purchase assault weapons....Why does America ignore it's citizens who want stricter rules on gun possesion and do nothing to curb gun crime accept produce more guns???

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Can’t answer the question?
Phil, don’t iet your notions of being of inferior intellect stop you from having a go.

Where did you get the nonsense that America allows felons and the mentally ill to purchase weapons?
Where did you get the idea that the public can purchase assault weapons?
Very few US citizens can legally own assault weapons and then only after very strict vetting procedures before a license can be issued.

Bye the way, did you know that the NFA bans knives which have a sheath?
Sounds crazy.


Anyone can purchase a firearm in the United States because of the loopholes in State legislation....Assault weapons have been used in American shootings which makes you claim bullshit....America has a problem with firearms!!!

Quote:
Gun show loophole

The gun show loophole is the absence of laws mandating background checks for certain private sales of firearms in the United States. The term gun show loophole is used in political contexts without a single well-accepted definition some cases it can refer to "a situation in which many sellers dealing in firearms offer them for sale at gun shows without becoming licensed or subjecting purchasers to background checks", while in others it refers more generally to the broader private sale exemption in U.S. federal gun law, which allows non-commercial gun sales by private parties without a background check (regardless of whether these sales are at gun shows or not).

Regardless of the context of a sale, private sales to buyers known or suspected of being prohibited from possessing firearms and "straw purchases" by others on behalf of prohibited purchasers are illegal. The background check system and the private sale exemption were established by the 1993 Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, commonly known as the Brady Bill.

Under the Brady Bill anyone not "engaged in the business" of selling firearms is not required to obtain a background check on buyers seeking to purchase firearms from a seller's private collection. Along with federal laws for firearms purchases, there are also local and state laws regulating background check requirements for the purchase of firearms.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole

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The Lapsed Federal Assault Weapons Ban

In 1994, Congress adopted the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which made it generally “unlawful for a person to manufacture, transfer, or possess” a semiautomatic assault weapon. The law was adopted with a sunset clause, however, and expired in 2004, despite overwhelming public support for its renewal. Thus, semi-automatic, military style weapons that were formerly regulated under federal law are now legal unless banned by state or local law.


https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/hardware-ammunition/assault...

Quote:
Yes, assault weapons have been used in many mass shootings in the United States, including some of the deadliest:

Las Vegas, NV: In 2017, a shooter used more than 20 assault-style weapons and 12 bump-fire stocks, killing 59 people and injuring over 500

Orlando, FL: In 2016, a Sig Sauer MCX assault rifle killed 49 people and injured 58

Sutherland Springs, TX: In 2017, a Ruger AR-556 rifle killed 26 churchgoers

Newtown, CT: In 2012, a Bushmaster semiautomatic assault rifle killed 26 people, including 20 children

El Paso, TX: An AK-47-style weapon killed 22 people at a Walmart

Uvalde, TX: In 2022, a mass shooting at Robb Elementary School left 21 people killed and 17 injured


https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/115244/documents/HHRG-117-JU08-202212...

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #175 - Nov 18th, 2024 at 2:52pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 1:44pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 11:35am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 9:39am:
Western Australia's gun laws are supported by the majority of the public....Unlike America, Australia does not allow firearms for self defence whilst restricting and regulating firearms....The difference in outcomes for the population supports the fact stricter gun laws have reduced the amount of firearms in the population and ensured those who have forfeited their right cannot obtain a firearm legaly in Australia....The reason Australia has a very low murder rate and low overall crime rate is because of our laws....America could learn from Australia's gun laws....Why does Americe allow convicted fellons and mentaly ill people to purchase firearms....Why does America allow the public to purchase assault weapons....Why does America ignore it's citizens who want stricter rules on gun possesion and do nothing to curb gun crime accept produce more guns???

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Can’t answer the question?
Phil, don’t iet your notions of being of inferior intellect stop you from having a go.

Where did you get the nonsense that America allows felons and the mentally ill to purchase weapons?
Where did you get the idea that the public can purchase assault weapons?
Very few US citizens can legally own assault weapons and then only after very strict vetting procedures before a license can be issued.

Bye the way, did you know that the NFA bans knives which have a sheath?
Sounds crazy.


Anyone can purchase a firearm in the United States because of the loopholes in State legislation....Assault weapons have been used in American shootings which makes you claim bullshit....America has a problem with firearms!!!

Quote:
Gun show loophole

The gun show loophole is the absence of laws mandating background checks for certain private sales of firearms in the United States. The term gun show loophole is used in political contexts without a single well-accepted definition some cases it can refer to "a situation in which many sellers dealing in firearms offer them for sale at gun shows without becoming licensed or subjecting purchasers to background checks", while in others it refers more generally to the broader private sale exemption in U.S. federal gun law, which allows non-commercial gun sales by private parties without a background check (regardless of whether these sales are at gun shows or not).

Regardless of the context of a sale, private sales to buyers known or suspected of being prohibited from possessing firearms and "straw purchases" by others on behalf of prohibited purchasers are illegal. The background check system and the private sale exemption were established by the 1993 Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, commonly known as the Brady Bill.

Under the Brady Bill anyone not "engaged in the business" of selling firearms is not required to obtain a background check on buyers seeking to purchase firearms from a seller's private collection. Along with federal laws for firearms purchases, there are also local and state laws regulating background check requirements for the purchase of firearms.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole

Quote:
The Lapsed Federal Assault Weapons Ban

In 1994, Congress adopted the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which made it generally “unlawful for a person to manufacture, transfer, or possess” a semiautomatic assault weapon. The law was adopted with a sunset clause, however, and expired in 2004, despite overwhelming public support for its renewal. Thus, semi-automatic, military style weapons that were formerly regulated under federal law are now legal unless banned by state or local law.


https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/hardware-ammunition/assault...

Quote:
Yes, assault weapons have been used in many mass shootings in the United States, including some of the deadliest:

Las Vegas, NV: In 2017, a shooter used more than 20 assault-style weapons and 12 bump-fire stocks, killing 59 people and injuring over 500

Orlando, FL: In 2016, a Sig Sauer MCX assault rifle killed 49 people and injured 58

Sutherland Springs, TX: In 2017, a Ruger AR-556 rifle killed 26 churchgoers

Newtown, CT: In 2012, a Bushmaster semiautomatic assault rifle killed 26 people, including 20 children

El Paso, TX: An AK-47-style weapon killed 22 people at a Walmart

Uvalde, TX: In 2022, a mass shooting at Robb Elementary School left 21 people killed and 17 injured


https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/115244/documents/HHRG-117-JU08-202212...

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Those were not assault weapons, get informed and accurate.
And tell me, if guns are such a problem and Americans have the most guns in civilian hands, why don’t they have the most murders?
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Reply #176 - Nov 18th, 2024 at 3:01pm
 
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Those were not assault weapons


Bullshit!!!

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Examples of mass shootings involving assault weapons
and/or large capacity magazines

• Uvalde, Texas— AR-15-style weapon killed 19 children; 2 teachers
• Buffalo, New York— AR-15-style rifle killed 10 shoppers
• Boulder, Colorado—Ruger AR-556 semi-automatic killed 10
people including a police officer
• Dayton, Ohio— AR-15-style weapon equipped with a 100-round
ammunition magazine to kill nine people and injure over 25 others
in less than 30 seconds at a local bar
• El Paso, Texas— AK-47-style weapon killed 22 at a Walmart.
• Gilroy, Calif.— AK-47-style weapon wounded 17 and killed three
including a 13-year-old girl and 6-year-old
• Thousand Oaks, Calif.— Glock 21 .45-caliber pistol and several
high-capacity ammunition magazines killed 12.
• Pittsburgh, Pa.— AR-15-styleweapon killed 11 worshipers. The
deadliest anti-Semitic attack committed against the Jewish
community in America.
• Parkland, Fla.— M&P15 AR-15 military style rifle; killed 17
students and educators.
• Sutherland Springs, Texas— Ruger AR-556 Rifle; killed 26
churchgoers.
• Las Vegas, Nev.—Shooter with more than 20 assault style weapons
and 12 bump-fire stocks killed 58 people and wound over 500 others.
• Orlando, Fla.— Sig Sauer MCX assault rifle killed 49 and wounded
58. The deadliest incident of violence against LGBT people in our
nation’s history.
• Newtown, Conn.— Bushmaster semiautomatic assault killed 26
people including 20 children.
• Aurora, Colo.— Smith & Wesson M&P15 semiautomatic assaultstyle rifle with a 100-round ammunition drum and other firearms
killed 12 people and injured 58.


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Reply #177 - Nov 18th, 2024 at 4:24pm
 
"The "AR" in AR-15 stands for "ArmaLite Rifle",[11] and "AR-15" is most-commonly used to refer only to the civilian semi-automatic variants of the rifle which lack the fully automatic function.[12] A common misconception is that "AR" is an abbreviation for "assault rifle" or "automatic rifle",[13][14][15] perhaps because of the weapon's inclusion in the Federal Assault Weapons Ban in 1994, or because the ArmaLite AR-15 was originally designed to replace the M14 rifle in the Vietnam War.[16]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15%E2%80%93style_rifle

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Reply #178 - Nov 18th, 2024 at 4:52pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 4:24pm:
"The "AR" in AR-15 stands for "ArmaLite Rifle",[11] and "AR-15" is most-commonly used to refer only to the civilian semi-automatic variants of the rifle which lack the fully automatic function.[12] A common misconception is that "AR" is an abbreviation for "assault rifle" or "automatic rifle",[13][14][15] perhaps because of the weapon's inclusion in the Federal Assault Weapons Ban in 1994, or because the ArmaLite AR-15 was originally designed to replace the M14 rifle in the Vietnam War.[16]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15%E2%80%93style_rifle

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The AR-15 is not the only weapon mentioned....A bump stock also makes them automatic....America has a gun problem they do not want to address....Australia's laws should set an example for America!!!

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philperth2010 wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 4:52pm:
The AR-15 is not the only weapon mentioned.


But is mentioned multiple times, the Ruger is also an AR-15 derivative.

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 4:52pm:
A bump stock also makes them automatic..


A bump stock does NOT make them fully automatic. Roll Eyes

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 4:52pm:
.America has a gun problem they do not want to address.


And nowhere have I said different. Roll Eyes

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 18th, 2024 at 4:52pm:
Australia's laws should set an example for America!


And that can only be done internally, not by changing WA Gun Laws. Roll Eyes
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