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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #195 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:01pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 12:56pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 11:17am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 10:05am:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 5:42pm:

Hey! Phil,
Where’s all those assault rifles?
Why do we need tougher gun laws?
Why does the NFA ban sheath knives and is a knife a sheath knife if one takes away the sheath?

Come on Phil, give us the benefit of your knowledge and whilst you’re at it you could tell us why, with such success of the gun laws WA needs to go further out of step with the rest of Australia?

What is an AK47....American's allow weapons not available in Western Australia to be purchased without a background check and have a serious gun problem....America exports most of the guns used in wars and by criminal gangs accross the Carribean and South America....American's can kill eachother and their children and deny there is a problem but do not try to equate Western Australian gun laws with the insanity that takes place in America....Western Australian's are quite happy with our gun laws and we do not need Yanks claiming we have a problem....Dickhead!!!

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Can’t answer the questions, I’m not surprised.

I did answer dickhead....WA as with all States sets it's own gun laws which are supported by the majority of Western Australian's....Now answer why you believe America does not have a gun problem and why WA should not set it's own gun laws???

Huh

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #196 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:08pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 18^th, 2024 at 6:59pm:

Phil,
You started off saying ‘’assault weapons’’ now you’ve been talking about‘’assault style’’ weapons , confused are you?

The USA’s murder rate is on the low side, why are you ignoring all those countries with a much higher murder rate and much tougher gun laws?

I am talking about WA not some third world country flooded with guns from America....Why do you compare America with war zones and third world countries instead on the top OECD countries in the world like Australia....Are you seriously claiming WA's gun laws are a problem whilst defending the carnage in America with third world war zones....You really are that stupid???

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #197 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:30pm

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:08pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 18^th, 2024 at 6:59pm:

Phil,
You started off saying ‘’assault weapons’’ now you’ve been talking about‘’assault style’’ weapons , confused are you?

The USA’s murder rate is on the low side, why are you ignoring all those countries with a much higher murder rate and much tougher gun laws?

I am talking about WA not some third world country flooded with guns from America....Why do you compare America with war zones and third world countries instead on the top OECD countries in the world like Australia....Are you seriously claiming WA's gun laws are a problem whilst defending the carnage in America with third world war zones....You really are that stupid???

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Because murder is a moral not an income based matter.
With such a low murder rate and such a low gun related crime rate why does WA need tougher gun laws?

Why if a person owns 10 reproductions of antique firearms why are they not allowed an eleventh, that one being a repro, say, of an English musket of 1537; a copy of Henry VIII’s breech loading matchlock gun.

Seems a bit stupid, but then the WA Government having made it impossible for criminals to get modern firearms, perhaps they [the other criminals] will turn to the technology of 1537.

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #198 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 3:10pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:08pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 18^th, 2024 at 6:59pm:

Phil,
You started off saying ‘’assault weapons’’ now you’ve been talking about‘’assault style’’ weapons , confused are you?

The USA’s murder rate is on the low side, why are you ignoring all those countries with a much higher murder rate and much tougher gun laws?

I am talking about WA not some third world country flooded with guns from America....Why do you compare America with war zones and third world countries instead on the top OECD countries in the world like Australia....Are you seriously claiming WA's gun laws are a problem whilst defending the carnage in America with third world war zones....You really are that stupid???

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Because murder is a moral not an income based matter.
With such a low murder rate and such a low gun related crime rate why does WA need tougher gun laws?

Why if a person owns 10 reproductions of antique firearms why are they not allowed an eleventh, that one being a repro, say, of an English musket of 1537; a copy of Henry VIII’s breech loading matchlock gun.

Seems a bit stupid, but then the WA Government having made it impossible for criminals to get modern firearms, perhaps they [the other criminals] will turn to the technology of 1537.

‘’ A man has been charged after he allegedly threatened a mother with an axe and stole her white Holden Commodore in a Perth car park.

The 53-year-old accused arrived at Rockingham Shopping Centre about 5.20pm yesterday, when he allegedly approached the woman in her 30s who was unloading her shopping and had her baby with her.’’
Seems like it’s time to get tough and require axes to be registered, that’ll stop this sort of thing.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/mother-with-baby-allegedly-threatened-a...

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #199 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 5:08pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:08pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 18^th, 2024 at 6:59pm:

Phil,
You started off saying ‘’assault weapons’’ now you’ve been talking about‘’assault style’’ weapons , confused are you?

The USA’s murder rate is on the low side, why are you ignoring all those countries with a much higher murder rate and much tougher gun laws?

I am talking about WA not some third world country flooded with guns from America....Why do you compare America with war zones and third world countries instead on the top OECD countries in the world like Australia....Are you seriously claiming WA's gun laws are a problem whilst defending the carnage in America with third world war zones....You really are that stupid???

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Because murder is a moral not an income based matter.
With such a low murder rate and such a low gun related crime rate why does WA need tougher gun laws?

Why if a person owns 10 reproductions of antique firearms why are they not allowed an eleventh, that one being a repro, say, of an English musket of 1537; a copy of Henry VIII’s breech loading matchlock gun.

Seems a bit stupid, but then the WA Government having made it impossible for criminals to get modern firearms, perhaps they [the other criminals] will turn to the technology of 1537.

The reason more people are not murdered in Western Australia is because of our gun laws....The privelege of owning a firearm is restricted by the State for public safety....America is a classic example of what happens when you let anyone have a gun!!!

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Domestic violence accused to lose access to guns in wake of Perth double murders

A formal domestic violence complaint will automatically strip firearms owners of their guns, under planned changes announced by the WA government, after two women were murdered in Perth last week.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/domestic-violence-accused-to-lose-access-to-...

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #200 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 5:37pm

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 5:08pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:30pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 2:08pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 18^th, 2024 at 6:59pm:

Phil,
You started off saying ‘’assault weapons’’ now you’ve been talking about‘’assault style’’ weapons , confused are you?

The USA’s murder rate is on the low side, why are you ignoring all those countries with a much higher murder rate and much tougher gun laws?

I am talking about WA not some third world country flooded with guns from America....Why do you compare America with war zones and third world countries instead on the top OECD countries in the world like Australia....Are you seriously claiming WA's gun laws are a problem whilst defending the carnage in America with third world war zones....You really are that stupid???

Roll Eyes

Because murder is a moral not an income based matter.
With such a low murder rate and such a low gun related crime rate why does WA need tougher gun laws?

Why if a person owns 10 reproductions of antique firearms why are they not allowed an eleventh, that one being a repro, say, of an English musket of 1537; a copy of Henry VIII’s breech loading matchlock gun.

Seems a bit stupid, but then the WA Government having made it impossible for criminals to get modern firearms, perhaps they [the other criminals] will turn to the technology of 1537.

The reason more people are not murdered in Western Australia is because of our gun laws....The privelege of owning a firearm is restricted by the State for public safety....America is a classic example of what happens when you let anyone have a gun!!!
but that could only be true in reference to the 1973 Act, not the 2024 Act so where is the justification for the tougher laws?
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Domestic violence accused to lose access to guns in wake of Perth double murders

A formal domestic violence complaint will automatically strip firearms owners of their guns, under planned changes announced by the WA government, after two women were murdered in Perth last week.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/domestic-violence-accused-to-lose-access-to-...

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #201 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 5:47pm

From the 2024 Act

‘’ (2)
The objects of this Act are as follows —
(a) to improve public safety by ensuring the safe and responsible possession and use of firearms; Commendable, but if this is an improvement why has it taken so long?
(b) to specify the purposes for which a person can be authorised to possess or use a firearm;
(c) to minimise the risk of persons becoming victims of crimes that involve the use of firearms;
(d) to prevent persons from having access to firearms for criminal purposes; Go on, do tell😀😀😀
(e) to prevent access to firearms by persons who pose a risk of violence, family violence or intimidating behaviour;
(f) to prevent access to firearms by persons who pose a risk of misuse of firearms;
(g) to minimise the risk of persons causing harm, including psychological harm, to themselves or others by the misuse of firearms;
(h) to reduce the number of firearms unlawfully possessed in the community; Disarm the criminals,😀😀😀😀
(i) to facilitate a nationally consistent approach to the control of firearms. They’re certainly going about it in the right way😇😇😇’’

With regard to (i) above the whole Act is funnier than ‘Yes Minister’

Their consistent approach includes requiring the licensing of percussion muzzle loading antique single shot pistols, a type of firearm that does not need to be licenced in the other States.

Seems that WA is marching to its own step.

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Reply #202 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 6:11pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 3:53pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 19^th, 2024 at 10:02am:

Educate yourselves....The United States has a gun problem they refuse to address!!!

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On gun violence, the United States is an outlier

When we look exclusively at high-income countries and territories with populations of 10 million or more, the US ranks first.

why on earth would we look exclusively at high income countries?
https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/insights-blog/acting-data/gun-violence-un...

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How firearm ownership compares globally

The United States is the only nation in the world where civilian guns outnumber people.

Quite correct , then if the guns are the problem why do other countries with less guns have more murders?
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/26/world/us-gun-culture-world-comparison-intl-cm...

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From your link!!!

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The US has the highest firearm homicide rate in the developed world

In 2019, the number of US deaths from gun violence was about 4 per 100,000 people. That’s 18 times the average rate in other developed countries. Multiple studies show access to guns contributes to higher firearm-related homicide rates.

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Reply #203 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 6:20pm

Poor phil, doesn't understand English.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_homicide_rate...

You have to watch the pea and not the thimble. Wink

According to the table USA 4.504/100k people.

Trinidad and Tobago 20.551/100k people. The clue is in the statement - "hat’s 18 times the average rate in other developed countries."

SO NOT the highest homicide rtae in the worls

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #204 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 6:41pm

lee wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 6:20pm:

Poor phil, doesn't understand English.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_homicide_rate...

You have to watch the pea and not the thimble. Wink

According to the table USA 4.504/100k people.

Trinidad and Tobago 20.551/100k people. The clue is in the statement - "hat’s 18 times the average rate in other developed countries."

SO NOT the highest homicide rtae in the worls

We must not be too hard on Phil, he was a High School dropout; not that he would not have eventually graduated but the School Board thought that as a 22 year old he was giving the school a bad academic image.

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Reply #208 - Nov 26^th, 2024 at 8:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 8:35pm:

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You haven't had a new idea in 30 years, stupid, sad old impaired ****..

That's why you yawn - it is all strange and incomprehensible for you.

Just yawn and soil your nappies, Bbwian. That's all you have at either end of you.

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