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Reply #15 - Oct 10th, 2024 at 9:40am
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 9:06am:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 8:42am:
Good to see guns treated as a dangerous weapon that require strong laws and restrictions on there purchase and ownership....Guns are a priveledge not a right and anyonewho really needs a gun can still get one if they meet the criteria....Honest people with a genuine reason to own a gun do not need to worry....Only self obsessed arsehole would put their right to own a gun before the right to protect the public from gun violence....If you don't like the laws don't come to WA and shove your guns up your arse!!!

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Make up your mind.
People do have a right to have a firearm.



Only if they meet the criteria and are granted a licence....Owning a firerm is a priveledge not a right in Australia....You really are a dickhead!!!

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Reply #16 - Oct 10th, 2024 at 4:34pm
 
Tut, tut Phil, so vulgar, the more educated among us use the term ‘’Richard Cranium’’ in lieu of ‘’dickhead’’.

What don’t you and the WA Government not understand about the word ‘’agreement”?

Why did you say that self obsessed arseholes have a right to possess firearms?

You did say “ Only self obsessed arsehole would put their right to own a gunbefore the right to . . . .’’ ,did you not?
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Reply #17 - Oct 10th, 2024 at 4:59pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 4:34pm:
Tut, tut Phil, so vulgar, the more educated among us use the term ‘’Richard Cranium’’ in lieu of ‘’dickhead’’.

What don’t you and the WA Government not understand about the word ‘’agreement”?

Why did you say that self obsessed arseholes have a right to possess firearms?

You did say “ Only self obsessed arsehole would put their right to own a gunbefore the right to . . . .’’ ,did you not?


Opening Statement - Part 2 of the National Firearms Agreement (Link provided)!!!

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Nothing in the agreement prevents juristictions from adopting additional - including more restrictive - regulations


So what is it you are complaining about???

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https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/1399510/17-257.pdf
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Reply #18 - Oct 10th, 2024 at 6:15pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 4:59pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 4:34pm:
Tut, tut Phil, so vulgar, the more educated among us use the term ‘’Richard Cranium’’ in lieu of ‘’dickhead’’.

What don’t you and the WA Government not understand about the word ‘’agreement”?

Why did you say that self obsessed arseholes have a right to possess firearms?

You did say “ Only self obsessed arsehole would put their right to own a gunbefore the right to . . . .’’ ,did you not?


Opening Statement - Part 2 of the National Firearms Agreement (Link provided)!!!

Quote:
Nothing in the agreement prevents juristictions from adopting additional - including more restrictive - regulations


So what is it you are complaining about???

Huh Huh Huh

https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/1399510/17-257.pdf

Where am I complaining?
I’m only pointing out that the NFA is not an agreement.

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agreement
/əˈɡriːm(ə)nt/
noun
harmony or accordance in opinion or feeling.
"the two officers nodded in agreement"
Similar:
a negotiated and typically legally binding arrangement between parties as to a course of action.’’

Can you tell me how forcing a person to get rid of a replica of a 1720 design of musket makes WA a safer State?

Bye the way, arseholes are essential to society, also known as the fundamental orifice, “funda’’ for short, they ensure health and contentment.
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Reply #19 - Oct 10th, 2024 at 6:22pm
 
You did say “ Only self obsessed arsehole would put their right to own a gun before the right to . . . .’’ ,did you not?

How is it that you think arseholes have a right to guns where others do not?
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Reply #20 - Oct 10th, 2024 at 8:29pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 6:15pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 4:59pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 4:34pm:
Tut, tut Phil, so vulgar, the more educated among us use the term ‘’Richard Cranium’’ in lieu of ‘’dickhead’’.

What don’t you and the WA Government not understand about the word ‘’agreement”?

Why did you say that self obsessed arseholes have a right to possess firearms?

You did say “ Only self obsessed arsehole would put their right to own a gunbefore the right to . . . .’’ ,did you not?


Opening Statement - Part 2 of the National Firearms Agreement (Link provided)!!!

Quote:
Nothing in the agreement prevents juristictions from adopting additional - including more restrictive - regulations


So what is it you are complaining about???


Huh Huh Huh

https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/1399510/17-257.pdf

Where am I complaining?
I’m only pointing out that the NFA is not an agreement.

‘’ Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
agreement
/əˈɡriːm(ə)nt/
noun
harmony or accordance in opinion or feeling.
"the two officers nodded in agreement"
Similar:
a negotiated and typically legally binding arrangement between parties as to a course of action.’’

Can you tell me how forcing a person to get rid of a replica of a 1720 design of musket makes WA a safer State?

Bye the way, arseholes are essential to society, also known as the fundamental orifice, “funda’’ for short, they ensure health and contentment.


The agreement allowes States the right to change firearms laws....The ageement sets a minimum standard....What is your problem???

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Reply #21 - Oct 10th, 2024 at 9:52pm
 
Well I’m not complaining about the agreement because there is nothing to complain about, there is no agreement.
That settles that.
Now do tell us why you think arseholes have gun rights?
Or didn’t you mean that?
Is it your inadequate understanding of the English language that is causing you confusion?

Tell us all why you think a restriction on the number of firearms is a good thing and precisely why having one gun over the prescribed number is dangerous to society especially when the gun is a replica of a 1720 design.

We await your wisdom with bated breath.
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Reply #22 - Oct 11th, 2024 at 9:41am
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 9:52pm:
Well I’m not complaining about the agreement because there is nothing to complain about, there is no agreement.
That settles that.
Now do tell us why you think arseholes have gun rights?
Or didn’t you mean that?
Is it your inadequate understanding of the English language that is causing you confusion?

Tell us all why you think a restriction on the number of firearms is a good thing and precisely why having one gun over the prescribed number is dangerous to society especially when the gun is a replica of a 1720 design.

We await your wisdom with bated breath.



What I said was "Only self obsessed arsehole would put their right to own a gun before the right to protect the public from gun violence"....That would be you arsehole....Someone can own up to ten guns if they have a need and meet the criteria....The ageement states - Nothing in the agreement prevents juristictions from adopting additional - including more restrictive - regulations....So your argument is complete bullshit as usual....Guns are a privellege not a right in Australia and States have every right to dictate what and how many firearms any individual can own....This is not America dickhead....Your only argument is you do not like the laws not that they have been broken in any way!!!

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Reply #23 - Oct 11th, 2024 at 9:58am
 
Big Brother's got us all in his sights.... never been the same here since Howard became The Man Who Shot Liberty's Balance with GST, Workchoices and gun 'laws'.. 

Nothing's too good for him, anyway, it seems..... still living off the fattest in the land.....
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Reply #24 - Oct 11th, 2024 at 4:56pm
 
You did say “ Only self obsessed arsehole would put their right to own a gunbefore the right to . . . .’’ ,did you not?

Therefore, logically you think that these self obsessed arseholes have gun rights or you lack English proficiency, can’t have it both ways.

You have successfully demonstrated that the National Firearms Agreement is not an agreement but aload of bull.

You said nought about the absurdity of forcing a person to give up a replica of a 1720 designed single shot muzzle loading musket.
How does owning one 1720 musket over the arbitrary limit in any way threaten the safety of Western Australians?

Don’t just repeat that the WA Government can do what it wants, tell us why you think it necessary.
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Reply #25 - Oct 11th, 2024 at 7:07pm
 
Just read a legal opinion on the WA gun laws and it seems that the health provisions, which include mental health only apply to firearm licence holders and as the WA police do not have to hold a license for their service pistols and other firearms then they are not subject to the mental health provisions.

The new laws have been likened to the gun laws of Nazi Germany.
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Reply #26 - Oct 11th, 2024 at 7:45pm
 
WA Gun laws have always been wonky and lack sense. The .303 ban before the NFA is a case in point. I think my grandfather and then my father had the only not drilled and filled .303 in WA. A Lee-Metford held on a curio license until my father got dementia(Lewy Body Dementia), now my youngest in QLD has it and my fathers other firearms but it has to be on a Category B and WA no longer has a Curio license.
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Reply #27 - Oct 11th, 2024 at 8:55pm
 
I had a .303 from my rifle shooting days, in WA. It then went on the Curio license. When I moved back to WA from the NT I sold it.
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Reply #28 - Oct 12th, 2024 at 8:13am
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 11th, 2024 at 7:07pm:
Just read a legal opinion on the WA gun laws and it seems that the health provisions, which include mental health only apply to firearm licence holders and as the WA police do not have to hold a license for their service pistols and other firearms then they are not subject to the mental health provisions.

The new laws have been likened to the gun laws of Nazi Germany.


Who by....You???

Care to post a link to support this argument and let us know exactly who is comparing WA gun laws to Nazi Germany???

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Reply #29 - Oct 12th, 2024 at 8:15am
 
The WA Farmers organisation supports the new laws!!!

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The move was welcomed by agriculture advocacy organisation WAFarmers.

Its CEO, Trevor Whittington, said the organisation welcomed the move and called it a "responsible step forward" that would "hopefully help reduce self-inflicted firearm suicides and God forbid a mass murder".

"Firearms like explosives or aircraft in the wrong hands are potential weapons of mass destruction," he said.

"Firearms in the hands of people with mental health problems can be the means of their own self destruction, or worse the destruction of their families.

"For too long its been too easy for people who have no need for, or are of unsavoury character, or mentally unfit, to get a firearms licence."


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