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Reply #60 - Oct 15th, 2024 at 7:39pm
 
In WA if one has 11 firearms and one of them is a Zimmerstutzen then either it or one of the others must be gotten rid of to comply with the law,
Almost as funny as NSW where if the Zimmerstutzen is a breech loader it is Category A but if it is the more antiquated muzzle loading type it is Category B, up there with high powered center fire repeating rifles.
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Reply #61 - Oct 18th, 2024 at 10:12am
 
Strange people in the WA Government they allow people who have been arrested as mentally unfit to possess and drive motor vehicles but will not allow them to have a Zimmerstutzen.

Those assessed as mental risks are also allowed access to chainsaws, hatchets,axes and a variety of knives.
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Reply #62 - Oct 18th, 2024 at 10:35am
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 10:12am:
Strange people in the WA Government they allow people who have been arrested as mentally unfit to possess and drive motor vehicles but will not allow them to have a Zimmerstutzen.

Those assessed as mental risks are also allowed access to chainsaws, hatchets,axes and a variety of knives.


Chainsaws, hatchets, axes and a variety of knives are tools most people use and own....However if you choose to use one of these tools as a weapon you will be charged with the consequences....Firearms are classified as weapons only....Despite your bullshit deflection your claim that the National Firearms Agreement has been broken by WA is complete bullshit as you have been shown on multiple occasions....WA can introduce any gun laws they consider necassary to protect the public as it is writen in the agreement....You are a liar and not very smart as you bullshit confirms!!!

Quote:
National Firearms Agreement

Opening Statement


1. The National Firearms Agreement constitutes a National approach to the regulation of firearms. The agreement affirms that firearms possesion and use is a privellege that is conditional on the overriding need to ensure public safety and that public safety is improved by the safe and responsible possession, carriage, use, registration, storage and transfer of firearms.

2. The agreement sets out minimum requirements in relation to the regulation of firearms. Nothing in this Agreement prevents jurisdictions from adopting additional - including more restrictive - regulations.

3. Having regard to the National Firearms Trafficing Policy agreement, first agreed in 2002, juristictions agree to establish or maintain substancial penalties for the illegal possesion of firearms.
 

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https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/1399510/17-257.pdf

https://www.criminaldefencelawyers.com.au/blog/weapons-licensing-laws-in-austral...
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Reply #63 - Oct 18th, 2024 at 11:09am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 10:35am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 10:12am:
Strange people in the WA Government they allow people who have been arrested as mentally unfit to possess and drive motor vehicles but will not allow them to have a Zimmerstutzen.

Those assessed as mental risks are also allowed access to chainsaws, hatchets,axes and a variety of knives.


Chainsaws, hatchets, axes and a variety of knives are tools most people use and own....However if you choose to use one of these tools as a weapon you will be charged with the consequences....Firearms are classified as weapons only....Despite your bullshit deflection your claim that the National Firearms Agreement has been broken by WA is complete bullshit as you have been shown on multiple occasions....WA can introduce any gun laws they consider necassary to protect the public as it is writen in the agreement....You are a liar and not very smart as you bullshit confirms!!!

Quote:
National Firearms Agreement

Opening Statement


1. The National Firearms Agreement constitutes a National approach to the regulation of firearms. The agreement affirms that firearms possesion and use is a privellege that is conditional on the overriding need to ensure public safety and that public safety is improved by the safe and responsible possession, carriage, use, registration, storage and transfer of firearms.

2. The agreement sets out minimum requirements in relation to the regulation of firearms. Nothing in this Agreement prevents jurisdictions from adopting additional - including more restrictive - regulations.

3. Having regard to the National Firearms Trafficing Policy agreement, first agreed in 2002, juristictions agree to establish or maintain substancial penalties for the illegal possesion of firearms.
 

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https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/1399510/17-257.pdf

https://www.criminaldefencelawyers.com.au/blog/weapons-licensing-laws-in-austral...

Your obfuscation doesn’t alter the fact that people considered to be mentally unfit are allowed free access to lethal weapons but are not allowed to own a Zimmerstutzen.
Going by your posts I doubt that you could get a firearm license.
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Reply #64 - Oct 18th, 2024 at 11:39am
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 11:09am:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 10:35am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 10:12am:
Strange people in the WA Government they allow people who have been arrested as mentally unfit to possess and drive motor vehicles but will not allow them to have a Zimmerstutzen.

Those assessed as mental risks are also allowed access to chainsaws, hatchets,axes and a variety of knives.


Chainsaws, hatchets, axes and a variety of knives are tools most people use and own....However if you choose to use one of these tools as a weapon you will be charged with the consequences....Firearms are classified as weapons only....Despite your bullshit deflection your claim that the National Firearms Agreement has been broken by WA is complete bullshit as you have been shown on multiple occasions....WA can introduce any gun laws they consider necassary to protect the public as it is writen in the agreement....You are a liar and not very smart as you bullshit confirms!!!

Quote:
National Firearms Agreement

Opening Statement


1. The National Firearms Agreement constitutes a National approach to the regulation of firearms. The agreement affirms that firearms possesion and use is a privellege that is conditional on the overriding need to ensure public safety and that public safety is improved by the safe and responsible possession, carriage, use, registration, storage and transfer of firearms.

2. The agreement sets out minimum requirements in relation to the regulation of firearms. Nothing in this Agreement prevents jurisdictions from adopting additional - including more restrictive - regulations.

3. Having regard to the National Firearms Trafficing Policy agreement, first agreed in 2002, juristictions agree to establish or maintain substancial penalties for the illegal possesion of firearms.
 

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https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/1399510/17-257.pdf

https://www.criminaldefencelawyers.com.au/blog/weapons-licensing-laws-in-austral...

Your obfuscation doesn’t alter the fact that people considered to be mentally unfit are allowed free access to lethal weapons tools and kitchen appliances but are not allowed to own a Zimmerstutzen.
Going by your posts I doubt that you could get a firearm license.


Going by your rant you confirm you are a compete dickhead....Chainsaws, hatchets, axes and knives are not classed as lethal weapons that require a licence you idiot....Why do you continue to embarrass yourself with such blatant bullshit???

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Reply #65 - Oct 18th, 2024 at 12:08pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 11:39am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 11:09am:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 10:35am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 10:12am:
Strange people in the WA Government they allow people who have been arrested as mentally unfit to possess and drive motor vehicles but will not allow them to have a Zimmerstutzen.

Those assessed as mental risks are also allowed access to chainsaws, hatchets,axes and a variety of knives.


Chainsaws, hatchets, axes and a variety of knives are tools most people use and own....However if you choose to use one of these tools as a weapon you will be charged with the consequences....Firearms are classified as weapons only....Despite your bullshit deflection your claim that the National Firearms Agreement has been broken by WA is complete bullshit as you have been shown on multiple occasions....WA can introduce any gun laws they consider necassary to protect the public as it is writen in the agreement....You are a liar and not very smart as you bullshit confirms!!!

Quote:
National Firearms Agreement

Opening Statement


1. The National Firearms Agreement constitutes a National approach to the regulation of firearms. The agreement affirms that firearms possesion and use is a privellege that is conditional on the overriding need to ensure public safety and that public safety is improved by the safe and responsible possession, carriage, use, registration, storage and transfer of firearms.

2. The agreement sets out minimum requirements in relation to the regulation of firearms. Nothing in this Agreement prevents jurisdictions from adopting additional - including more restrictive - regulations.

3. Having regard to the National Firearms Trafficing Policy agreement, first agreed in 2002, juristictions agree to establish or maintain substancial penalties for the illegal possesion of firearms.
 

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https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/1399510/17-257.pdf

https://www.criminaldefencelawyers.com.au/blog/weapons-licensing-laws-in-austral...

Your obfuscation doesn’t alter the fact that people considered to be mentally unfit are allowed free access to lethal weapons tools and kitchen appliances but are not allowed to own a Zimmerstutzen.
Going by your posts I doubt that you could get a firearm license.


Going by your rant you confirm you are a compete dickhead....Chainsaws, hatchets, axes and knives are not classed as lethal weapons that require a licence you idiot....Why do you continue to embarrass yourself with such blatant bullshit???

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Not embarrassed in the slightest.
I didn’t say they were classified as weapons but they are lethal and one would expect that a Government that doesn’t allow a Zimmerstutzen over the limit for those it considers mentally stable would have been at pains not to allow potentially lethal things/weapons into the hands of those that it considers mentally unstable.

Bye the way, do you know what this symbol ‘’?’’ means ?
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Reply #66 - Oct 18th, 2024 at 12:20pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 12:08pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 11:39am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 11:09am:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 10:35am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 10:12am:
Strange people in the WA Government they allow people who have been arrested as mentally unfit to possess and drive motor vehicles but will not allow them to have a Zimmerstutzen.

Those assessed as mental risks are also allowed access to chainsaws, hatchets,axes and a variety of knives.


Chainsaws, hatchets, axes and a variety of knives are tools most people use and own....However if you choose to use one of these tools as a weapon you will be charged with the consequences....Firearms are classified as weapons only....Despite your bullshit deflection your claim that the National Firearms Agreement has been broken by WA is complete bullshit as you have been shown on multiple occasions....WA can introduce any gun laws they consider necassary to protect the public as it is writen in the agreement....You are a liar and not very smart as you bullshit confirms!!!

Quote:
National Firearms Agreement

Opening Statement


1. The National Firearms Agreement constitutes a National approach to the regulation of firearms. The agreement affirms that firearms possesion and use is a privellege that is conditional on the overriding need to ensure public safety and that public safety is improved by the safe and responsible possession, carriage, use, registration, storage and transfer of firearms.

2. The agreement sets out minimum requirements in relation to the regulation of firearms. Nothing in this Agreement prevents jurisdictions from adopting additional - including more restrictive - regulations.

3. Having regard to the National Firearms Trafficing Policy agreement, first agreed in 2002, juristictions agree to establish or maintain substancial penalties for the illegal possesion of firearms.
 

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https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/1399510/17-257.pdf

https://www.criminaldefencelawyers.com.au/blog/weapons-licensing-laws-in-austral...

Your obfuscation doesn’t alter the fact that people considered to be mentally unfit are allowed free access to lethal weapons tools and kitchen appliances but are not allowed to own a Zimmerstutzen.
Going by your posts I doubt that you could get a firearm license.


Going by your rant you confirm you are a compete dickhead....Chainsaws, hatchets, axes and knives are not classed as lethal weapons that require a licence you idiot....Why do you continue to embarrass yourself with such blatant bullshit???

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Not embarrassed in the slightest.
I didn’t say they were classified as weapons but they are lethal and one would expect that a Government that doesn’t allow a Zimmerstutzen over the limit for those it considers mentally stable would have been at pains not to allow potentially lethal things/weapons into the hands of those that it considers mentally unstable.

Bye the way, do you know what this symbol ‘’?’’ means ?


What is your point dickhead....Are you advocating for anyone who has a criminal record or mental health issues should be banned from possessing chainsaws, hatchets, axes and knives....Should they require a licence to possess these tools and kitchen appliances....Or are you claiming guns should not require a licence or background checks....Either way your pathetic argument is complete bullshit....Guns are weapons that require a licence....Your argument WA has breached the National Firearms agreement is a lie and complete bullshit....You really are a complete dickhead mate!!!

??? Question you sanity!!!

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Reply #67 - Oct 18th, 2024 at 12:43pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 12:20pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 12:08pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 11:39am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 11:09am:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 10:35am:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 10:12am:
Strange people in the WA Government they allow people who have been arrested as mentally unfit to possess and drive motor vehicles but will not allow them to have a Zimmerstutzen.

Those assessed as mental risks are also allowed access to chainsaws, hatchets,axes and a variety of knives.


Chainsaws, hatchets, axes and a variety of knives are tools most people use and own....However if you choose to use one of these tools as a weapon you will be charged with the consequences....Firearms are classified as weapons only....Despite your bullshit deflection your claim that the National Firearms Agreement has been broken by WA is complete bullshit as you have been shown on multiple occasions....WA can introduce any gun laws they consider necassary to protect the public as it is writen in the agreement....You are a liar and not very smart as you bullshit confirms!!!

Quote:
National Firearms Agreement

Opening Statement


1. The National Firearms Agreement constitutes a National approach to the regulation of firearms. The agreement affirms that firearms possesion and use is a privellege that is conditional on the overriding need to ensure public safety and that public safety is improved by the safe and responsible possession, carriage, use, registration, storage and transfer of firearms.

2. The agreement sets out minimum requirements in relation to the regulation of firearms. Nothing in this Agreement prevents jurisdictions from adopting additional - including more restrictive - regulations.

3. Having regard to the National Firearms Trafficing Policy agreement, first agreed in 2002, juristictions agree to establish or maintain substancial penalties for the illegal possesion of firearms.
 

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https://www.resources.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/1399510/17-257.pdf

https://www.criminaldefencelawyers.com.au/blog/weapons-licensing-laws-in-austral...

Your obfuscation doesn’t alter the fact that people considered to be mentally unfit are allowed free access to lethal weapons tools and kitchen appliances but are not allowed to own a Zimmerstutzen.
Going by your posts I doubt that you could get a firearm license.


Going by your rant you confirm you are a compete dickhead....Chainsaws, hatchets, axes and knives are not classed as lethal weapons that require a licence you idiot....Why do you continue to embarrass yourself with such blatant bullshit???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Not embarrassed in the slightest.
I didn’t say they were classified as weapons but they are lethal and one would expect that a Government that doesn’t allow a Zimmerstutzen over the limit for those it considers mentally stable would have been at pains not to allow potentially lethal things/weapons into the hands of those that it considers mentally unstable.

Bye the way, do you know what this symbol ‘’?’’ means ?


What is your point dickhead....Are you advocating for anyone who has a criminal record or mental health issues should be banned from possessing chainsaws, hatchets, axes and knives....Should they require a licence to possess these tools and kitchen appliances....Or are you claiming guns should not require a licence or background checks....Either way your pathetic argument is complete bullshit....Guns are weapons that require a licence....Your argument WA has breached the National Firearms agreement is a lie and complete bullshit....You really are a complete dickhead mate!!!

??? Question you sanity!!!

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So you think that it’s OK for those deemed to be mentally unfit to own a Zimmerstutzen should be allowed things that can be lethal weapons?
Allowing those deemed to be dangerous because of a Government employee’s thinking on their mental health access to knives but not to a Zimmerstutzen borders on the hysterical in terms of mirth.
‘It would be funny were it not so pathetic.

Just curious, but is your rudeness hereditary or did you acquire it?
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Reply #68 - Oct 18th, 2024 at 1:17pm
 
You have a serious problem with reality mate....What are you proposing???

1. Mental health and background checks for everyone wanting to purchase chainsaws, hatchets, axes and knives with licencing and severe penalties for breaches?

2. No background checks for anyone wanting to purchase any firearm and no limit to the amount of firearms someone can possess?

3. Everyone should be required to own a weapon for self defence?

All weapons including crossbows, blow darts certain knives and an array of other weapons are classified under a weapon category....The category of the weapon determines what restrictions are applied....If someone can only own 10 antique weapons that fall into a restricted category then that is the law....Having 10 firearms for a legitimate reason is more than enough for anyone....Your whole argument is complete bullshit!!!

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Reply #69 - Oct 19th, 2024 at 1:04pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 1:17pm:
You have a serious problem with reality mate....What are you proposing???

1. Mental health and background checks for everyone wanting to purchase chainsaws, hatchets, axes and knives with licencing and severe penalties for breaches?

2. No background checks for anyone wanting to purchase any firearm and no limit to the amount of firearms someone can possess?

3. Everyone should be required to own a weapon for self defence?

All weapons including crossbows, blow darts certain knives and an array of other weapons are classified under a weapon category....The category of the weapon determines what restrictions are applied....If someone can only own 10 antique weapons that fall into a restricted category then that is the law....Having 10 firearms for a legitimate reason is more than enough for anyone....Your whole argument is complete bullshit!!!

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Just answer this; why should a person who has been deemed mentally unfit to possess a Zimmerstutzen be allowed to have things with the potential to cause much harm?
A Zimmerstutzen has iess power than a thrown dart yet is required to be registered, minuscule power compared to a chainsaw and not worth mentioning compared to a motor vehicle.
Why do you think that those deemed to be mentally unfit to possess a firearm are mentally stablei enough to be trusted with a motor vehicle?
Motor vehicles have been used to commit murder , a few years ago at Glen Innes, north NSW, there was a double murder and suicide by a mentally unstable man., then therewas the time a truck was driven into the cafe at Ayre’s Rock.
Can happen any time.
But you would seem to condone the mentally unstable having free access to dangerous items that can become weapons in an instant.

What’s your thoughts on those deemed to be mentally unfit having free access to matches and petrol?
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Reply #70 - Oct 19th, 2024 at 1:09pm
 
Phil,
You said, “ You have a serious problem with reality mate . . .”
Be that as it may, but I am not your ‘mate’, I am far more discerning than that.
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Reply #71 - Oct 19th, 2024 at 5:50pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 1:04pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 1:17pm:
You have a serious problem with reality mate....What are you proposing???

1. Mental health and background checks for everyone wanting to purchase chainsaws, hatchets, axes and knives with licencing and severe penalties for breaches?

2. No background checks for anyone wanting to purchase any firearm and no limit to the amount of firearms someone can possess?

3. Everyone should be required to own a weapon for self defence?

All weapons including crossbows, blow darts certain knives and an array of other weapons are classified under a weapon category....The category of the weapon determines what restrictions are applied....If someone can only own 10 antique weapons that fall into a restricted category then that is the law....Having 10 firearms for a legitimate reason is more than enough for anyone....Your whole argument is complete bullshit!!!

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Just answer this; why should a person who has been deemed mentally unfit to possess a Zimmerstutzen be allowed to have things with the potential to cause much harm?
A Zimmerstutzen has iess power than a thrown dart yet is required to be registered, minuscule power compared to a chainsaw and not worth mentioning compared to a motor vehicle.
Why do you think that those deemed to be mentally unfit to possess a firearm are mentally stablei enough to be trusted with a motor vehicle?
Motor vehicles have been used to commit murder , a few years ago at Glen Innes, north NSW, there was a double murder and suicide by a mentally unstable man., then therewas the time a truck was driven into the cafe at Ayre’s Rock.
Can happen any time.
But you would seem to condone the mentally unstable having free access to dangerous items that can become weapons in an instant.

What’s your thoughts on those deemed to be mentally unfit having free access to matches and petrol?


So your proposal is either....

1. Mental health and background checks for everyone wanting to purchase chainsaws, hatchets, axes and knives with licencing and severe penalties for breaches....We can also add matches and petrol although motor vehicles require a licence and practicle test as welll as restrictions....That way we can make sure anybody with a mental condition cannot purchase anything....Everything someone wants to purchase that may be used to cause harm will require a background check....Just to be sure!!!

2. No background checks for anyone wanting to purchase any firearm and no limit to the amount of firearms someone can possess???

If you dont like the laws go to court and change them....Your whole argument is complete bullshit!!!



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Reply #72 - Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:10pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 15th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
In WA if one has 11 firearms and one of them is a Zimmerstutzen then either it or one of the others must be gotten rid of to comply with the law,
Almost as funny as NSW where if the Zimmerstutzen is a breech loader it is Category A but if it is the more antiquated muzzle loading type it is Category B, up there with high powered center fire repeating rifles.


1. Your whole argument that WA breached the National Firearms Agreement is bullshit....Debate over!!!

2. If you have a problem with the weapons catergories in the agreement then your only remedy is to change the law!!!

3. If someone can only own 10 antique (or other firearms) then refer to point 2.!!!

4. This is not America....Owning a firearm is a privilege not a right and Australia is safer for it!!!

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Reply #73 - Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:55pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 6:10pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 15th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
In WA if one has 11 firearms and one of them is a Zimmerstutzen then either it or one of the others must be gotten rid of to comply with the law,
Almost as funny as NSW where if the Zimmerstutzen is a breech loader it is Category A but if it is the more antiquated muzzle loading type it is Category B, up there with high powered center fire repeating rifles.


1. Your whole argument that WA breached the National Firearms Agreement is bullshit....Debate over!!!

2. If you have a problem with the weapons catergories in the agreement then your only remedy is to change the law!!!

3. If someone can only own 10 antique (or other firearms) then refer to point 2.!!!

4. This is not America....Owning a firearm is a privilege not a right and Australia is safer for it!!!

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Owning a firearm for self defence is a right it’s just that in Australia people are denied that tight.

All people have a right to defend themselves from unlawful acts, therefore they have the right to an adequate means of defence.
The Government cannot protect its citizens from attack so it has no right to deny them the means of protection. 

Now tell me that that is not logical, refute my points with logical reasoning if you can.
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Reply #74 - Oct 19th, 2024 at 7:00pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 5:50pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 1:04pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 1:17pm:
You have a serious problem with reality mate....What are you proposing???

1. Mental health and background checks for everyone wanting to purchase chainsaws, hatchets, axes and knives with licencing and severe penalties for breaches?

2. No background checks for anyone wanting to purchase any firearm and no limit to the amount of firearms someone can possess?

3. Everyone should be required to own a weapon for self defence?

All weapons including crossbows, blow darts certain knives and an array of other weapons are classified under a weapon category....The category of the weapon determines what restrictions are applied....If someone can only own 10 antique weapons that fall into a restricted category then that is the law....Having 10 firearms for a legitimate reason is more than enough for anyone....Your whole argument is complete bullshit!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Just answer this; why should a person who has been deemed mentally unfit to possess a Zimmerstutzen be allowed to have things with the potential to cause much harm?
A Zimmerstutzen has iess power than a thrown dart yet is required to be registered, minuscule power compared to a chainsaw and not worth mentioning compared to a motor vehicle.
Why do you think that those deemed to be mentally unfit to possess a firearm are mentally stablei enough to be trusted with a motor vehicle?
Motor vehicles have been used to commit murder , a few years ago at Glen Innes, north NSW, there was a double murder and suicide by a mentally unstable man., then therewas the time a truck was driven into the cafe at Ayre’s Rock.
Can happen any time.
But you would seem to condone the mentally unstable having free access to dangerous items that can become weapons in an instant.

What’s your thoughts on those deemed to be mentally unfit having free access to matches and petrol?


So your proposal is either....

1. Mental health and background checks for everyone wanting to purchase chainsaws, hatchets, axes and knives with licencing and severe penalties for breaches....We can also add matches and petrol although motor vehicles require a licence and practicle test as welll as restrictions....That way we can make sure anybody with a mental condition cannot purchase anything....Everything someone wants to purchase that may be used to cause harm will require a background check....Just to be sure!!!

2. No background checks for anyone wanting to purchase any firearm and no limit to the amount of firearms someone can possess???

If you dont like the laws go to court and change them....Your whole argument is complete bullshit!!!



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OK, so in your opinion it’s alright for those deemed to be mentally unstable to have matches and petrol.
Good thinking,
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