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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41878	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #75 - Oct 19^th, 2024 at 9:08pm
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Reply #76 - Oct 19^th, 2024 at 9:35pm

Phil,
The Firearms Act that the WA Government just enacted says that the limit of 5 firearms hunters and 10 for competition shooters is tohelp stop firearm theft by criminals.

How do they know that criminals are twice as likely to steal from hunters?

Can you tell us, or do you also think that such a distinction is absurd?

Just a small point, where didI mention a restriction on the number of antique firearms that can be owned?

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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2242 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #77 - Oct 19^th, 2024 at 9:37pm Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19^th, 2024 at 9:08pm: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif Seems that the level of discussion is a bit higher than Brian’s level.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41878	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #78 - Oct 19^th, 2024 at 10:48pm
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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #79 - Oct 19^th, 2024 at 11:36pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 19^th, 2024 at 9:35pm:

Phil,
The Firearms Act that the WA Government just enacted says that the limit of 5 firearms hunters and 10 for competition shooters is tohelp stop firearm theft by criminals.

How do they know that criminals are twice as likely to steal from hunters?

Can you tell us, or do you also think that such a distinction is absurd?

Pistols are what criminals want hunters can't use pistols they are for target shooting competitions which is an Olympic sport.

The 5 gun limit on firearms for hunters is absurd you can only use one gun at a time this isn't Hollywood where they shoot blanks that don't have recoil.

The ban on some firearm calibres is based on fear that a cop could be shot yet no cop has ever been shot with the calibres they banned.

At 1 minute 15 seconds former NSW Police minister Troy Grant says greater than 97% of all gun crime is done by criminals with Illegal guns.

Politicians sell a perception they're making you safer yet they never bring in tougher laws for criminals with illegal guns.
They only go after licensed gun owners so they an appear to be doing something.

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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2242 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #80 - Oct 20^th, 2024 at 9:18am Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19^th, 2024 at 10:48pm: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif Point proven🤣🤣🤣
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Reply #81 - Oct 20^th, 2024 at 10:19am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 19^th, 2024 at 7:00pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2024 at 5:50pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 19^th, 2024 at 1:04pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2024 at 1:17pm:

You have a serious problem with reality mate....What are you proposing???

1. Mental health and background checks for everyone wanting to purchase chainsaws, hatchets, axes and knives with licencing and severe penalties for breaches?

2. No background checks for anyone wanting to purchase any firearm and no limit to the amount of firearms someone can possess?

3. Everyone should be required to own a weapon for self defence?

All weapons including crossbows, blow darts certain knives and an array of other weapons are classified under a weapon category....The category of the weapon determines what restrictions are applied....If someone can only own 10 antique weapons that fall into a restricted category then that is the law....Having 10 firearms for a legitimate reason is more than enough for anyone....Your whole argument is complete bullshit!!!

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Just answer this; why should a person who has been deemed mentally unfit to possess a Zimmerstutzen be allowed to have things with the potential to cause much harm?
A Zimmerstutzen has iess power than a thrown dart yet is required to be registered, minuscule power compared to a chainsaw and not worth mentioning compared to a motor vehicle.
Why do you think that those deemed to be mentally unfit to possess a firearm are mentally stablei enough to be trusted with a motor vehicle?
Motor vehicles have been used to commit murder , a few years ago at Glen Innes, north NSW, there was a double murder and suicide by a mentally unstable man., then therewas the time a truck was driven into the cafe at Ayre’s Rock.
Can happen any time.
But you would seem to condone the mentally unstable having free access to dangerous items that can become weapons in an instant.

What’s your thoughts on those deemed to be mentally unfit having free access to matches and petrol?

So your proposal is either....

1. Mental health and background checks for everyone wanting to purchase chainsaws, hatchets, axes and knives with licencing and severe penalties for breaches....We can also add matches and petrol although motor vehicles require a licence and practicle test as welll as restrictions....That way we can make sure anybody with a mental condition cannot purchase anything....Everything someone wants to purchase that may be used to cause harm will require a background check....Just to be sure!!!

2. No background checks for anyone wanting to purchase any firearm and no limit to the amount of firearms someone can possess???

If you dont like the laws go to court and change them....Your whole argument is complete bullshit!!!

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OK, so in your opinion it’s alright for those deemed to be mentally unstable to have matches and petrol.
Good thinking,

Do you require a licence to purchase matches or petrol....What do you propose....Can you answer these three questions???

1. Should people need a background check to purchase matches and petrol???

2. Should people wanting to purchase a firearm require a background check???

3. What limit should be placed on owning firearms???

WA have not breached the National Firearms Agreement....Your whole argument is bullshit!!!

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41878	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #82 - Oct 20^th, 2024 at 12:36pm Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 20^th, 2024 at 9:18am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19^th, 2024 at 10:48pm: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif Point proven🤣🤣🤣 You just don't get it do you, Eugene? Like a real gun nut you confuse safety with a gun. Tsk tsk, tsk...
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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #83 - Oct 20^th, 2024 at 1:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2024 at 12:36pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 20^th, 2024 at 9:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19^th, 2024 at 10:48pm:

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Point proven🤣🤣🤣

You just don't get it do you, Eugene? Like a real gun nut you confuse safety with a gun. Tsk tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You can write ! ! and not just to yourself on “Defence”.

If your assailant has a big knife do you draw your fountain pen?
After all the pen is mightier than the sword.

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #84 - Oct 20^th, 2024 at 2:58pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 20^th, 2024 at 1:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2024 at 12:36pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 20^th, 2024 at 9:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19^th, 2024 at 10:48pm:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif

Point proven🤣🤣🤣

You just don't get it do you, Eugene? Like a real gun nut you confuse safety with a gun. Tsk tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You can write ! ! and not just to yourself on “Defence”.

If your assailant has a big knife do you draw your fountain pen?
After all the pen is mightier than the sword.

I use what ever weapon is to hand to defend myself, Eugene. Australians have used milk crates to stop Terrorists. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement
Reply #85 - Oct 20^th, 2024 at 3:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2024 at 2:58pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 20^th, 2024 at 1:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2024 at 12:36pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Oct 20^th, 2024 at 9:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19^th, 2024 at 10:48pm:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif

Point proven🤣🤣🤣

You just don't get it do you, Eugene? Like a real gun nut you confuse safety with a gun. Tsk tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You can write ! ! and not just to yourself on “Defence”.

If your assailant has a big knife do you draw your fountain pen?
After all the pen is mightier than the sword.

I use what ever weapon is to hand to defend myself, Eugene. Australians have used milk crates to stop Terrorists. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Good on you, Brian, perhaps you’d use one of the mythical extra long Sword bayonets that you invented when you denigrated the 4th Australian Light Horse Brigade.who charged using their ordinary 16 inch Sword bayonets at the charge at Beersheba.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41878	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #86 - Oct 21^st, 2024 at 12:07pm
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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2242 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #87 - Oct 21^st, 2024 at 3:34pm Brian Ross wrote on Oct 21^st, 2024 at 12:07pm: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif Embarrassing isn’t it, Brian, to be caught out in a piece your own BS.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41878	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #88 - Oct 21^st, 2024 at 4:54pm
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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2242 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: WA and the National Firearms Agreement Reply #89 - Oct 21^st, 2024 at 5:42pm Brian Ross wrote on Oct 21^st, 2024 at 4:54pm: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img641/9394/yawnr.gif Well said, your intellectual standards haven’t been impaired.
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