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Reply #120 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:01pm

tallowood wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:31am:

The pagers of Hezbollah supporters could have explosives installed. Apparently, they use these gadgets to exchange or receive encrypted messages. If the Israelis capture a militant or his device, the pager will be detonated remotely, destroying the information. It is possible that the secret services managed to figure out how exactly this is done and send the necessary signal to subscribers.

Pagers and now other comm devices, what do they have in common and why the bangs were localized to Lebanon only?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137354 Gender:	Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon Reply #121 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:04pm tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:44pm: Quote: 10-year-old girls? How many? At least one, and that's too many.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon Reply #122 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:04pm: tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:44pm: Quote: 10-year-old girls? How many? At least one, and that's too many. So did ebil MassAd targeted the 10 year old girl while Hezbollah terror operatives become innocent bystanders?
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Reply #123 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:14pm

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:31am:

The pagers of Hezbollah supporters could have explosives installed. Apparently, they use these gadgets to exchange or receive encrypted messages. If the Israelis capture a militant or his device,
the pager will be detonated remotely, destroying the information. It is possible that the secret services managed to figure out how exactly this is done and send the necessary signal to subscribers.

Pagers and now other comm devices, what do they have in common and why the bangs were localized to Lebanon only?

I strongly doubt that.

Something as violent as an explosion is not necessary to wipe the memory from a device.

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Reply #124 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:24pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce9jglrnmkvo

It identified the device as an ICOM-V82 handheld VHF radio,
which is a now-discontinued model made by the Japan-based electronics manufacturer ICOM.

NNA said another ICOM-V82 exploded at a house on the outskirts of the nearby town of Baalbek.
Video footage showed fire damage to a table and wall,
as well as damaged parts of what appeared to be a walkie-talkie bearing the label “ICOM”.

An ICOM-branded walkie talkie was destroyed by a blast at a house on the outskirts of Baalbek

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104568 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon Reply #125 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:38pm Jesus Christ - how many companies have been compromised by Israel?
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Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon
Reply #126 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:14pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:31am:

The pagers of Hezbollah supporters could have explosives installed. Apparently, they use these gadgets to exchange or receive encrypted messages. If the Israelis capture a militant or his device,
the pager will be detonated remotely, destroying the information. It is possible that the secret services managed to figure out how exactly this is done and send the necessary signal to subscribers.

Pagers and now other comm devices, what do they have in common and why the bangs were localized to Lebanon only?

I strongly doubt that.
Something as violent as an explosion is not necessary to wipe the memory from a device.

Hezbollah is not new to booby traps tactics, In April 2013, a jihadi forum member published a Lebanese
Hezbollah instructional video on how to make a booby-trap or anti-handling device. Arabs used these ideas to booby-trap Palestinian flags on border.

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Reply #127 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:38pm:

Jesus Christ - how many companies have been compromised by Israel?

I think no companies are safe now. If they can put explosives into a device like a pager. What would stop them from putting it into an IPAD or a iphone? What if there is a relative of HAMAs leaders living in secret somewhere in Australia, and that device explodes whilst he or she is in the shopping centre. This is scary stuff! Cry

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Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon
Reply #128 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:14pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:31am:

The pagers of Hezbollah supporters could have explosives installed. Apparently, they use these gadgets to exchange or receive encrypted messages. If the Israelis capture a militant or his device,
the pager will be detonated remotely, destroying the information. It is possible that the secret services managed to figure out how exactly this is done and send the necessary signal to subscribers.

Pagers and now other comm devices, what do they have in common and why the bangs were localized to Lebanon only?

I strongly doubt that.

Something as violent as an explosion is not necessary to wipe the memory from a device.

My conspiracy theory is that, these were planted with purpose of disrupting communication, in preparation for a ground invasion. It may have being uncovered accidentally, leading to earlier detonation.

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Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon
Reply #129 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:11pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:38pm:

Jesus Christ - how many companies have been compromised by Israel?

I think no companies are safe now. If they can put explosives into a device like a pager. What would stop them from putting it into an IPAD or a iphone? What if there is a relative of HAMAs leaders living in secret somewhere in Australia, and that device explodes whilst he or she is in the shopping centre. This is scary stuff! Cry

Israel doesn't respect any company or any other country.
They forged Australian passports to help murder a man in Dubai.
Why does anyone continue to do business with them?
Why do we?
We should have broken off all relations with them forever.
They are not our friends.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-05-24/israeli-diplomat-expelled-over-fake-passp...

Israeli diplomat expelled over fake passport affair
online political correspondent Emma Rodgers

Topic:Foreign Affairs

Mon 24 May 2010

The Federal Government is expelling an Israeli diplomat after it found
Israel faked Australian passports that were used in a hit on a top Hamas leader in Dubai.

Foreign Minister Stephen Smith today condemned the fraud as "not the act of a friend"
and a clear affront to Australia that cannot be tolerated.

"This is not what we expect from a nation with whom we have had such a close, friendly and supportive relationship," he said.

In February several forged Australian passports were used in the assassination of Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Mabhouh.

Mr Smith confirmed investigations by Australian Federal Police, ASIO and ASIS showed Israel fabricated the passports of four Australians who also had Israeli citizenship.

"The high quality of these counterfeited passports points to involvement of a state intelligence service," he said.

"These investigations and advice have left the Australian Government in no doubt that Israel was responsible for the abuse and counterfeiting of these passports."

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Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon
Reply #130 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:14pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:05pm:

I think no companies are safe now. If they can put explosives into a device like a pager. What would stop them from putting it into an IPAD or a iphone? What if there is a relative of HAMAs leaders living in secret somewhere in Australia, and that device explodes whilst he or she is in the shopping centre. This is scary stuff! Cry

So why there were no reports about comm devices explosions outside of Lebanon, not even in Gaza?

May be the work was not done by Mossad or for that matter by Israelis.

It could be internal straggle in Hezbollah itself. Nasrallah was Hezbollah leader for 32 years too long and not everybody in the organization were happy with his decision making process especially about the war.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20577 Gordon Gender:	Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon Reply #131 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:17pm Some of the worlds worst terrorists are dropping like flies with extremely low collateral damage and people are upset? No surprise we have so many supporters of Islamic terror here.
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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon Reply #132 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:22pm Motorola is implicated in the exploding pagers because of its association with the Israeli military. Motorola was once a major manufacturer of pagers and licensed its technology to third partiees. This will be bad news for Motorola on many fronts.
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Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon
Reply #133 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:22pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:17pm:

Some of the worlds worst terrorists are dropping like flies with extremely low collateral damage and people are upset?

No surprise we have so many supporters of Islamic terror here.

Some people like to be upset, they think it will get them victim-hood compo benefits.

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MattE Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 219 Gender:	Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon Reply #134 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:24pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:04pm: tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:44pm: Quote: 10-year-old girls? How many? At least one, and that's too many. It was as precise of an attack against Hezbollah as you can get.
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