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Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon
Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:07am

Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon

Reports that the Iranian ambassador to Lebanon was also injured in a pager explosion.

SHOCKING Moment dozens of Hezbollah members are injured by EXPLODING pagers in Lebanon

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Reply #1 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:15am

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/dozens-hezbollah-members-wounded-leban...

Hezbollah vows to punish Israel after pager explosions across Lebanon

By Laila Bassam
September 18, 20245:04 AM GMT+10Updated 35 min ago

Hezbollah calls it biggest security breach in war with Israel
Hezbollah fighters are among those killed, the group says
Pagers are used to try to avoid Israeli detection
No comment from Israeli military or government
Iranian ambassador to Lebanon reportedly injured

BEIRUT, Sept 17 (Reuters) - Militant group Hezbollah promised to retaliate against Israel after accusing it of detonating pagers across Lebanon on Tuesday, killing at least eight people and wounding nearly 3,000 others who included fighters and Iran's envoy to Beirut.
Lebanese Information Minister Ziad Makary condemned the late afternoon detonation of the pagers - handheld devices that Hezbollah and others in Lebanon use to send messages - as an "Israeli aggression". Hezbollah said Israel would receive "its fair punishment" for the blasts.
The Israeli military, which has been engaged in cross-border fighting with Iran-backed Hezbollah since the start of the Gaza war in October, declined to respond to questions about the detonations.
Lebanese Health Minister Firass Abiad said on Tuesday that eight people were killed and 2,750 wounded in the pager explosions, 200 of them critically.
Hezbollah in an earlier statement confirmed the deaths included at least two of its fighters and a little girl.
The pagers exploded in southern Lebanon, the southern suburbs of Beirut known as Dahiyeh and the eastern Bekaa Valley - all Hezbollah strongholds.

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Reply #2 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:17am

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/2024-09-17/live-updates-820553

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What are the 'beepers' that were used by Hezbollah operatives?
The beeper, which predates mobile phones, allows professionals to receive messages in remote areas.
Today, it was released that Hezbollah operatives used the device.

Different types of pagers. Still used in areas without reception.
(photo credit: SHUTTERSTOCK)

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Reply #3 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:22am

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/lebanon-pagers-attack-hezbollah/index.ht...

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“Science-fiction-like” attack comes after Hezbollah told to go “low tech,”
says Middle East analyst

Kim Ghattas, a Lebanese journalist and contributing writer to The Atlantic magazine, told CNN that Hezbollah had recently “gone low tech” in an attempt to prevent more of its operatives from being assassinated.

“It was clearly a targeted attack by Israel against Hezbollah operatives who had gone low tech, because they have been the target of assassinations over the past 10 months. They’ve been instructed to dump their iPhones, get off the internet and disconnect their CCTVs,” Ghattas told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour.

Israel has not yet commented on the explosions. Hezbollah and the Lebanese government have blamed Israel for the attack.

Asked why Israel might have launched such an attack, Ghattas said there are two main explanations.

“It’s either a way to try to demonstrate to Hezbollah that Israel knows everything about them… To try, in essence, to cow Hezbollah into submission, and make clear that an increase of their attacks against Israel will be met with even further violence,” she said.
“Or, it could be a prelude to an Israeli large-scale campaign against [Lebanon], at a time when Hezbollah is facing the chaos of this latest very science-fiction-like attack against its operatives.”

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Reply #4 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:24am

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/lebanon-pagers-attack-hezbollah/index.ht...

What we're covering

Scores injured: At least nine people were killed and 2,800 wounded in an attack

that targeted pagers held by members of Iran-backed Lebanese militant group Hezbollah across Lebanon on Tuesday, according to the country’s health minister. Iran’s ambassador to Lebanon was one of those injured, according to Iranian state media.
Hezbollah blames Israel: The group said it holds Israel responsible for the deadly explosions, amid already increased tensions in the region. The Lebanese government also condemned the attack as “criminal Israeli aggression.”
No comment from IDF: The Israeli military, which has engaged in tit-for-tat strikes with Hezbollah for months, said it would not be commenting on the incidents.
Hospitals packed: At least 170 people injured are in critical condition, the health minister said, and many hospitals in southern Lebanon have exceeded capacity.

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21761 A cat with a view	Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon Reply #5 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:26am Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:15am: Hezbollah vows to punish Israel after pager explosions across Lebanon hi bobby, Yes. This attack seems to be somewhat of a provocation, by whoever did it. What could they be hoping, that the 'response' to such a mass attack may be ???
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Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon
Reply #6 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:29am

Yadda wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:26am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:15am:

Hezbollah vows to punish Israel after pager explosions across Lebanon

hi bobby,

Yes.

This attack seems to be somewhat of a provocation, by whoever did it.

What could they be hoping, that the 'response' to such a mass attack may be ???

It's full on war now.
Hezbollah will hit Israel with everything they've got -

150,000 rockets.

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Reply #7 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:38am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:29am:

Yadda wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:26am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:15am:

Hezbollah vows to punish Israel after pager explosions across Lebanon

hi bobby,

Yes.

This attack seems to be somewhat of a provocation, by whoever did it.

What could they be hoping, that the 'response' to such a mass attack may be ???

It's full on war now.

Hezbollah will hit Israel with everything they've got -
150,000 rockets.

Yes.

It could very well be.

Surely the Israelis would have considered that such a response [as you suggest], could be the consequence ?

What is their 'end game', what is Israels true objective [....in such an attack] ?

???

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Reply #8 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:40am

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-september-17-2024/

Report: Some 500 Hezbollah members lost eyesight in pager explosions

Around 500 members of the Hezbollah terror group have lost their eyesight
following today’s massive attack that caused pagers to explode throughout Lebanon and in Syria,
Saudi TV channel Al-Hadath reports.

53min ago
Lebanese authorities raise death toll in pager blasts to 11, say 4,000 injured
By Emanuel Fabian

Lebanon’s health ministry updates the death toll in the pager explosions to 11.

Another 4,000 are wounded, including 400 in critical condition, according to ministry numbers cited by Arabic-language media.

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Reply #9 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:43am

Yadda wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:38am:

Yes.

It could very well be.

Surely the Israelis would have considered that such a response [as you suggest], could be the consequence ?

What is their 'end game', what is Israels true objective [....in such an attack] ?

???

It's bad.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-september-17-2024/

UN coordinator for Lebanon says pager blasts are ‘extremely concerning escalation’

By Reuters and ToI Staff

The UN special coordinator for Lebanon Jeanine Hennis-Plasschaert says in a statement that she deplores the attack across Lebanon, warning that it marks “an extremely concerning escalation.”

Pagers used by the Lebanese terror group Hezbollah detonated today throughout Lebanon and in Syria, killing at least 11 and leaving thousands wounded.

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Reply #10 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:47am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:40am:

Report: Some 500 Hezbollah members lost eyesight in pager explosions

Their pager signal goes off.......the pager owner, takes hold of the pager,
and looks directly at the small pager screen [....screen, is on the end of the pager].

BOOM !!!

That is what would have happened.

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Reply #14 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:00am

Taiwan is implicated in the exploding pagers.

This will damage Taiwan's reputation and possibly lead to arrests and prosecution in Taiwan.

Motorola is implicated which could damage their business and share price significantly.

"One of the devices is linked to Motorola, whose headquarters is based in the US, which has been producing phones and communication devices since the early 1900s."

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/lebanon-pager-explosions-spark-debate-about...

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... The New York Times reported that Israel hid explosive material in the Taiwan-made Gold Apollo pagers before they were imported to Lebanon, citing American and other officials briefed on the operation. The material was implanted next to the battery with a switch that could be triggered remotely to detonate. ...

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Reply #15 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:02am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 9:32am:

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:51am:

A lot of Muslim terrorists now having to eat and wipe their arses with the same hand!

"An advisor to Lebanon’s health minister Firass Abiad said that 200 people had sustained critical injuries, with an eight-year-old girl among the dead."

Roll Eyes

She doesn't matter to them. She's Muslim.

If they consider her at all, it will be to blame her death on Hezbollah, despite Israel bringing the fight to them.

Muslim is enough.

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Reply #16 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:05am

mothra wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:02am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 9:32am:

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:51am:

A lot of Muslim terrorists now having to eat and wipe their arses with the same hand!

"An advisor to Lebanon’s health minister Firass Abiad said that 200 people had sustained critical injuries, with an eight-year-old girl among the dead."

Roll Eyes

She doesn't matter to them. She's Muslim.

If they consider her at all, it will be to blame her death on Hezbollah, despite Israel bringing the fight to them.

Muslim is enough.

Yep.

It's sickening.

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Reply #17 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:16am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 9:32am:

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:51am:

A lot of Muslim terrorists now having to eat and wipe their arses with the same hand!

"An advisor to Lebanon’s health minister Firass Abiad said that 200 people had sustained critical injuries, with an eight-year-old girl among the dead."

.

mothra wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:02am:

She doesn't matter to them. She's Muslim.

If they consider her at all, it will be to blame her death on Hezbollah, despite Israel bringing the fight to them.

Muslim is enough.

ISLAM - IS THE CULT WHICH ENCOURAGES MOSLEMS TO EMBRACE DEATH,
FOR THE 'CAUSE OF ALLAH' [....aka JIHAD].

ISLAM - IS THE CULT WHICH ENCOURAGES DEATH,
AND WHICH WORSHIPS....DEATH.

Encouraging death for the sake of the 'cause of Allah', is a PRIMARY religious doctrine of ISLAM.

110% true !!

This religious doctrine of ISLAM comes straight out of the book which moslems hold most holy........for their devotional instruction.

Can you guess what this book is called ?

It is the holy book found within every mosque in AUSTRALIA.

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WHAT MOSLEMS PROUDLY, HAVE DECLARED.

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1621945743/7#7
Quote:

"Our children are our glory and honor,
they were created to be fertilizer for the land of Palestine,
and for our pure land to be saturated with their blood."

Quote:

"Moderate" Palestinian Authority TV: Palestinian children created to fertilize the land with their blood
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/moderate-palestinian-authority-tv-palestinian-...
2023 live link...... https://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/moderate-palestinian-authority-tv-palestinian...

"Say: "...If ye think that ye are friends to Allah, to the exclusion of (other) men, then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!" "
Koran 62.06

n.b.
Koran 62.06 is admonishing the believer, that his only true love, in this life [if he is a true moslem], is to die, fighting in Allah's cause. !!!

It is obvious that today, in 2024, all Jewish people, all over the planet,
are the immediate PRIMARY enemy and the target for death,
of all devout followers of ISLAM.

MURDEROUS DEATH CULT.

.

ISLAM - IS THE CULT WHICH ENCOURAGES,
AND WORSHIPS....DEATH
AND MAKES MURDER >> 'LAWFUL' << ....

"We love death."

Don't believe me ?.......

Quote:

"We love death.
The US loves life.
That is the difference between us two."

- Osama bin Laden, November 2001

Quote:

"The Jews love life, .....they love life and we love death."

Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

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".....On the one hand, Israeli culture values life in all its aspects, including the sanctity of the life of others. Their soldiers take risks to spare civilians on the other side, unprecedented in the history of warfare. Aware of Israeli inhibitions, Jihadi groups use their own people as human shields in fighting the Israelis.
Over the last few years, these Jihadi groups have developed a full-blown death cult in which they raise their children to want to die killing others."

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"We have discovered how to hit the Jews where they are the most vulnerable. The Jews love life, so that is what we shall take away from them. We are going to win, because they love life and we love death."

Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

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"Our blood is cheap compared with the cause which has brought us together and which at moments separated us, but shortly we will meet again in heaven…"

Yasser Arafat (Maariv, Oct. 4, 1996)

Quote:

"Why do other people love life, while we love death and violence, slaughter and suicide, and [even] call it heroism and martyrdom?"

Tunisian intellectual Al-Afif Al-Akhdar

Those "...we love death" quotes, above, were sourced here...
http://www.theaugeanstables.com/2006/08/02/501/

WWW search....

jihad - "we love death"

WWW search....

muslims "we love death"

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n.b.

ALMOST ALL THAT I HAVE POSTED ABOVE,
ARE EVIDENCES FROM ISLAMIC SOURCES
AND FROM ISLAMIC 'RELIGIOUS' TEXTS.

MURDEROUS DEATH CULT.

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Reply #18 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:21am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:05am:

mothra wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:02am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 9:32am:

"An advisor to Lebanon’s health minister Firass Abiad said that 200 people had sustained critical injuries, with an eight-year-old girl among the dead."

Roll Eyes

She doesn't matter to them. She's Muslim.

If they consider her at all, it will be to blame her death on Hezbollah, despite Israel bringing the fight to them.

Muslim is enough.

Yep.

It's sickening.

Did you two consider:

14 kids under 10, 25 people over 80: Up-to-date breakdown of Oct 7 victims we know about

No. Sickening.

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Vladimir: That’s what you think.

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Reply #20 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:31am

The pagers of Hezbollah supporters could have explosives installed. Apparently, they use these gadgets to exchange or receive encrypted messages. If the Israelis capture a militant or his device, the pager will be detonated remotely, destroying the information. It is possible that the secret services managed to figure out how exactly this is done and send the necessary signal to subscribers.

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Reply #21 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:34am

mothra wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:02am:

She doesn't matter to them. She's Muslim.

If they consider her at all, it will be to blame her death on Hezbollah,
despite Israel bringing the fight to them.

Muslim is enough.

OF COURSE, THIS CHILDS DEATH,
IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MOSLEMS.

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n.b.

That according to ISLAM's own 'rules of war',
those who bring children into conflict areas/scenarios, are responsible for their deaths.

Hezbollah.

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Quote:

There Can Be No End to Jihad'

Islamist Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad, in an exclusive interview, discusses the rationale for 9/11
11/05/2007

...Any weapons are legitimate in jihad. Even animals may be used as "suicide bombers"! It is not restricted by target—
....even Muslims or children, if used by the enemy as human shields, can be killed.

....Killing women and children never was and never will be part of the jihad in Islam, whether that be the women or children of the Muslims or non-Muslims. So if Chechen mujahedeen killed women and children in Beslan, I would condemn it. The children of non-Muslims, such as those at Beslan, who die in such circumstances go to Paradise.

....Women and children [i.e. boys under 15] or Muslims are not legitimate targets—nor are any noncombatants [clergy, disabled, insane, elderly, etc.]. Not even Israeli children or women, unless they serve in the military, which most do, or live in properties taken from dispossessed Palestinians (Muslim or Christian), which virtually all do.

However, if children are killed, the fault lies with the adult occupiers who brought them into a battlefield situation.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/februaryweb-only/22.0.html

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Reply #22 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 11:42am

tallowood wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:31am:

The pagers of Hezbollah supporters could have explosives installed. Apparently, they use these gadgets to exchange or receive encrypted messages. If the Israelis capture a militant or his device, the pager will be detonated remotely, destroying the information. It is possible that the secret services managed to figure out how exactly this is done and send the necessary signal to subscribers.

Doesn't look like much explosive.

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Reply #24 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 12:26pm

Reports are emerging that the Pagers were compromised either in manufacturing or the supply chain.

It appears more likely in manufacturing because it would have required loading of compromised software to trigger the explosive devices as well as the explosives.

Taiwan is compromised, Motorola is compromised. Taiwanese products will experience a sharp decline in sales.

Taiwan will have to investigate because its reputation is compromised and associated with terrorism.

"The pagers had been ordered from Taiwanese manufacturer Gold Apollo, the Times reported, citing anonymous American "and other" officials."

Motorola is the patent owner and OEM of the devices and Motorola is known to have an association with Israeli Military.

https://www.barrons.com/news/explosive-packed-hezbollah-pagers-came-from-taiwan-...

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Explosive-packed Hezbollah Pagers Came From Taiwan: NYT Report
By AFP - Agence France Presse
September 17, 2024

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The pagers used by Hezbollah members that simultaneously exploded on Tuesday came from Taiwan, the New York Times reported, with explosives packed in sometime before they arrived in Lebanon.

At least nine people were killed and some 2,800 wounded, including the Iranian ambassador to Lebanon, when the pagers exploded across the country in an unprecedented attack blamed on Israel.

The pagers had been ordered from Taiwanese manufacturer Gold Apollo, the Times reported, citing anonymous American "and other" officials.

They were tampered with by Israel before arriving into Lebanon, some of the officials told the US newspaper.

A source close to Hezbollah, asking not to be identified, had previously told AFP that "the pagers that exploded concern a shipment recently imported by Hezbollah of 1,000 devices," which appear to have been "sabotaged at source."

The Times reported some 3,000 pagers were ordered from Gold Apollo, mostly its AP924 model.

The blasts "killed nine people, including a girl," Lebanese Health Minister Firass Abiad said.

"For Israel to embed an explosive trigger within the new batch of pagers, they would have likely needed access to the supply chain of these devices," Brussels-based military and security analyst Elijah Magnier told AFP.

"Israeli intelligence has infiltrated the production process, adding an explosive component and remote triggering mechanism into the pagers without raising suspicion," he said, raising the prospect the third party which sold the devices could have been an "intelligence front" set up by Israel for the purpose.

There has been no immediate comment by Israel on the incident.

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Reply #27 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 1:30pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 12:49pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 12:47pm:

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Taiwan is compromised, Motorola is compromised. Taiwanese products will experience a sharp decline in sales.

That is CCP connection. Who else would want to compromise Taiwan?

Israeli Jews?

Unlikely

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Reply #28 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 1:36pm

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-september-18-2024/

Taiwanese pager manufacturer says the beepers that detonated were made by European licensee

By Reuters

Taiwan’s Gold Apollo didn’t make the pagers that were used in the detonations in Lebanon on Tuesday, the company’s founder Hsu Ching-Kuang tells reporters.

Images of destroyed pagers analyzed by Reuters showed a format and stickers on the back that were consistent with pagers made by Gold Apollo. A senior Lebanese security source told Reuters that Hezbollah had ordered 5,000 pagers from the Taiwan-based Gold Apollo.

Hsu says the pagers used in the explosion were made by a company in Europe that has the right to use the Taiwanese firm’s brand.

“The product was not ours. It was only that it had our brand on it,” he says.

Hsu doesn’t name the company which he says manufactured the pagers, adding Gold Apollo is also a victim of the incident.

“We are a responsible company. This is very embarrassing,” he says.

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Reply #29 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 1:42pm

The failure to name the company it claims manufactured under license confirms the guilt of Taiwanese company Gold Apollo.

The whole of Taiwan and its exports and corporations has been tarnished by the exploding pagers.

If a European company was involved they are criminals and terrorists.

There is no doubt that Motorola is involved as the patent holder and software provider.

The crime involved tampering with the software of the Pagers to turn them into explosive devices.

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Reply #33 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 1:55pm

'Powerful explosive' inserted into Hezbollah devices.

Sep 17, 2024
“It’s like something strait out of a James Bond movie.”

The most plausible theory is some kind of explosive powerful enough to kill was “inserted in these devices,”
says weapons analyst, and editor of the Defence Eye website Tim Ripley

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Reply #35 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 1:59pm

The perpetrators are running for cover.

"Founder says pagers were made by BAC under licence"

No such company exists.

Hsu Ching-kuang, founder and president of Gold Apollo is at the very least complicit in the act of terrorism.

"Hsu earlier said that the firm with the licence was based in Europe but later declined to comment on BAC's location.

While Hsu was meeting with reporters, police officials arrived at the company."

I wonder how much of this will be exposed to the public.

There are a plethora of EU crimes involved in this case including terrorism and the import of explosives into the EU for the purposes of terrorism, probably in the diplomatic pouches of Israeli diplomats.

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Reply #36 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 2:47pm

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gold-apollo-says-it-did-not-make-pager...

Gold Apollo says it did not make pagers used in Lebanon blasts

By Ben Blanchard
September 18, 2024

Images of destroyed pagers analysed by Reuters showed a format and stickers on the back that were consistent with pagers made by Gold Apollo. A senior Lebanese security source told Reuters that Hezbollah had ordered 5,000 pagers from Taiwan-based Gold Apollo.
"The product was not ours. It was only that it had our brand on it,' Gold Apollo founder and president, Hsu Ching-Kuang, told reporters at the company's offices in the northern Taiwanese city of New Taipei on Wednesday.
The company said in a statement that the AR-924 model was produced and sold by BAC.
"We only provide brand trademark authorization and have no involvement in the design or manufacturing of this product," the statement said.

Hsu earlier said that the firm with the licence was based in Europe
but later declined to comment on BAC's location.

While Hsu was meeting with reporters, police officials arrived at the company.
Hezbollah fighters began using pagers in the belief they would be able to evade Israeli tracking of their locations, two sources familiar with the group's operations told Reuters this year.
Hsu said did not know how the pagers could have been rigged to explode.
Iran-backed Hezbollah said it was carrying out a "security and scientific investigation" into the causes of the blasts.
Israel's Mossad spy agency planted explosives inside 5,000 pagers imported by Lebanese group Hezbollah months before Tuesday's detonations, according to a senior Lebanese security source and another source.
Hsu said Gold Apollo was also a victim of the incident.
"We may not be a large company but we are a responsible one," he said. "This is very embarrassing."

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Reply #37 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 3:55pm

I really love how this attack was executed.

It was precise, it was planned out and it caught Hezbollah by surprise. It also literally disabled a good number of their operatives instantaneously. They might not be dead, but they are severely injured and perhaps even permanently disabled.

It must be sending paranoia through Hezbollah and the Iranian regime as to what other things Israel has infiltrated and can trigger with a single click of a button.

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Reply #40 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:

MattE wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 3:55pm:

I really love how this attack was executed.

You love the fact that an 8-year-old girl was killed?

Do you have any proof, other than the... er... word of the Lebanese or Hizb'ALLAH propaganda ministry?

Why was an 8 year old playing with a jihadi's pager? Who let her play with terrorist communication devices? Who was she? Who was he? What ACTUALLY happened?

Please explain.

You won't, of course.

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Reply #41 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:19pm

Frank wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:

MattE wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 3:55pm:

I really love how this attack was executed.

You love the fact that an 8-year-old girl was killed?

Why was an 8 year old playing with a jihadi's pager?

She wasn't.

She was standing near the guy with the pager.

Did you masturbate when you heard of her death?

She was 10.

The 10-year-old daughter of a Hezbollah member was killed in Lebanon's east when his pager exploded on Tuesday, her family and a source close to the group said.

"A 10-year-old girl was martyred in the Bekaa Valley after her father's pager exploded while he was next to her," her relatives told AFP.

A source close to the group confirmed her death, the first to be reported after exploding paging devices injured hundreds of Hezbollah members across Lebanon.

How many more little kids do you wanna see slaughtered?

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Reply #42 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:35pm

mothra wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:02am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 9:32am:

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:51am:

A lot of Muslim terrorists now having to eat and wipe their arses with the same hand!

"An advisor to Lebanon’s health minister Firass Abiad said that 200 people had sustained critical injuries, with an eight-year-old girl among the dead."

Roll Eyes

She doesn't matter to them. She's Muslim.

If they consider her at all, it will be to blame her death on Hezbollah, despite Israel bringing the fight to them.

Muslim is enough.

Bloody hell you're a moron.

Hezbollah opposes the government and policies of the State of Israel, and Jewish civilians who arrived following 1948. Its 1985 manifesto reportedly states "our struggle will end only when this entity [Israel] is obliterated. We recognize no treaty with it, no ceasefire, and no peace agreements."

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Reply #43 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:51pm

This was an act of terrorism. The owner of the company that owns the brand name is apparently already in police custody.

He is claiming he authorized another company in Europe to manufacture the devices.

The company he named doesn't exist. However, there will be a money trail and a correspondence-communication trail if he is not directly complicit. If he is directly complicit he will need to be convinced to be truthful.

The act of terrorism was committed by Israeli Jews who murdered people for entertainment.

If the devices were manufactured in Europe this would be a test of the bonafides of Interpol and other EU police agencies.

It will also be a test for the credibility of the US and the West in the GWOT.

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Reply #45 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:00pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz04m913m49o

But one Hezbollah operative told the AP news agency that the pagers were a new brand that the group had not used before. A Lebanese security official told the Reuters news agency that around 5,000 pagers were brought into the country about five months ago.

Labels seen on fragments of exploded pagers point to

a pager model called the Rugged Pager AR-924.

But Taiwanese manufacturer Gold Apollo has denied any involvement with the explosions. The founder, Hsu Ching-Kuang, said his company had signed an agreement with a European based company - BAC - to manufacture the devices and use his company name.

Dec 13, 2022

Gold Apollo Rugged Pager AR924.

Wireless Rechargeable Alphanumeric Pager with Up to 85 Days of Battery Life and Rechargeable battery with USB-C connector. The Rugged Pager AR924 has IP67 rating for Dust and Waterproof protection.

Device Features
• Battery life – up to 85 days with 2.5 hours for full battery charge
• Sealed USB-C connector with battery level indicator
• LED backlight with readable Display during direct sunlight
• PC programmable and Hand Programmable
• Rugged Design with IP67-dust and waterproof
• Sun radiation endurance
• Configurable & Flexible Design

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Reply #46 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:05pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 6:51pm:

This was an act of terrorism. The owner of the company that owns the brand name is apparently already in police custody.

He is claiming he authorized another company in Europe to manufacture the devices.

The company he named doesn't exist.

However, there will be a money trail and a correspondence-communication trail if he is not directly complicit. If he is directly complicit he will need to be convinced to be truthful.

The act of terrorism was committed by Israeli Jews who murdered people for entertainment.

If the devices were manufactured in Europe this would be a test of the bonafides of Interpol and other EU police agencies.

It will also be a test for the credibility of the US and the West in the GWOT.

yes - I searched for the company BAC - and there is no such company advertising Pagers.

see Reply #36 - Today at 2:47pm.

Quote:

The company said in a statement that the AR-924 model was produced and sold by BAC.
Hsu earlier said that the firm with the licence was based in Europe
but later declined to comment on BAC's location.

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Reply #47 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:17pm

The company is probably a bogus front for Mossad, Shin Bet or the IDF.

Some Hungarians will evidently have some questions to answer.

The Taiwanese guy is evidently complicit for licensing the manufacture of his products to a terrorist entity that may not even exist.

The pursuit of the terrorists is heating up. The trail will end in Israel where the perpetrators will be holed up.

https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-hezbollah-pager-company-hungary-tawain-go...

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... But the Taiwan-based company said in a statement that the AR-924 model used in the attack was manufactured and sold by a Hungarian company called BAC Consulting, which had a license to use its brand on the pagers.

“According to the cooperation agreement, we authorize BAC to use our brand trademark for product sales in designated regions, but the design and manufacturing of the products are solely the responsibility of BAC,” Gold Apollo’s statement said. “Our company only provides the brand trademark authorization and is not involved in the design or manufacturing of this product.”

POLITICO did not receive a response when attempting to contact BAC on Wednesday morning.

The Taiwanese firm’s founder and president Hsu Ching-kuang told reporters that there had been problems with the company’s money transfers coming from BAC. “The remittance was very strange,” he said, according to Reuters, adding that the payments came through the Middle East, but without going into detail. ...

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Reply #48 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:28pm

Thanks LTYC.
any attempt to click on that company's address gets a 403 forbidden.
https://www.bacconsulting.org/

https://gazette.com/news/us-world/a-view-of-the-exterior-of-an-office-building-w...

A view of the exterior of an office building where BAC Consulting KFT is
said to be registered, in Budapest, Hungary, September 18, 2024.
Taiwan's Gold Apollo said in a statement that BAC has a license
to use its brand and made the model of pagers used in the detonations in Lebanon.

REUTERS/Krisztina Fenyo

They don't even have a sign on their building - how suspicious.

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Reply #49 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:34pm

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/gold-apollo-pagers-exploded-lebanon-...

The AR-924 pager, advertised as being “rugged,” contains a rechargeable lithium battery, according to specifications once advertised on Gold Apollo’s website before it was apparently taken down Tuesday after the sabotage attack. It could receive texts of up to 100 characters.

It also claimed to have up to 85 days of battery life. That would be crucial in Lebanon, where electricity outages have been common after years of economic collapse. Pagers also run on a different wireless network than mobile phones, making them more resilient in emergencies — one of the reasons why many hospitals worldwide still rely on them.

Taiwan's Ministry of Economic Affairs said from the beginning of 2022 until August 2024, Gold Apollo has exported 260,000 sets of pagers, including more than 40,000 sets between January and August of this year. The ministry said the pagers were exported mainly to European and American countries and that it had no records of direct exports of Gold Apollo pagers to Lebanon.

For Hezbollah, the militants also looked at the pagers as a means to
sidestep what’s believed to be intensive Israeli electronic surveillance on mobile phone networks in Lebanon.

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Reply #51 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:42pm

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:34pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:17pm:

The pursuit of the terrorists is heating up.

Literally explosively! I thought you might have been one of the terrorists that lost a hand, their eyes or their balls.

Setanta has confessed to being a supporter of terrorism.

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Reply #52 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:45pm

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-planted-explosives-hezbollahs-t...

TRAIL LEADS TO BUDAPEST

The senior Lebanese security source said the group had ordered 5,000 pagers from Gold Apollo, which several sources say were brought into the country earlier this year.
Gold Apollo founder Hsu Ching-Kuang said the pagers used in the explosion were made by a company in Europe that Gold Apollo named in a statement as BAC.
"The product was not ours. It was only that it had our brand on it," Hsu told reporters at the company's offices in the northern Taiwanese city of New Taipei on Wednesday.

The stated address for BAC Consulting in Budapest was a peach building on a mostly residential street in an outer suburb. The company name was posted on the glass door on an A4 sheet.

A person at the building who asked not to be named said BAC Consulting was registered at the address but did not have a physical presence there. Several other companies were also registered at that address though none answered telephone calls and physical inquiries from Reuters.

The CEO of BAC Consulting, Cristiana Barsony-Arcidiacono says on her LinkedIn profile that she has worked as an advisor for various organisations including UNESCO. She did not respond to emails from Reuters. The company website makes no reference to manufacturing.
The senior Lebanese security source identified a photograph of the model of the pager, an AP-924, which like other pagers wirelessly receive and display text messages but cannot make telephone calls.
Hezbollah fighters have been using pagers as a low-tech means of communication in an attempt to evade Israeli location-tracking, two sources familiar with the group's operations told Reuters this year.

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Reply #53 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:45pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:34pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:17pm:

The pursuit of the terrorists is heating up.

Literally explosively! I thought you might have been one of the terrorists that lost a hand, their eyes or their balls.

Setanta has confessed to being a supporter of terrorism.

Hamas and Hezbollah are proscribed terrorist organisations, you support them and I'm the terrorist supporter? They should have sent you a free pager for all your posts here supporting them. That'd be a win.

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Reply #54 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:50pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-planted-explosives-hezbollahs-t...

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The senior Lebanese security source said the group had ordered 5,000 pagers from Gold Apollo, which several sources say were brought into the country earlier this year.
Gold Apollo founder Hsu Ching-Kuang said the pagers used in the explosion were made by a company in Europe that Gold Apollo named in a statement as BAC.
"The product was not ours. It was only that it had our brand on it," Hsu told reporters at the company's offices in the northern Taiwanese city of New Taipei on Wednesday.

The stated address for BAC Consulting in Budapest was a peach building on a mostly residential street in an outer suburb. The company name was posted on the glass door on an A4 sheet.

A person at the building who asked not to be named said BAC Consulting was registered at the address but did not have a physical presence there. Several other companies were also registered at that address though none answered telephone calls and physical inquiries from Reuters.

The CEO of BAC Consulting, Cristiana Barsony-Arcidiacono says on her LinkedIn profile that she has worked as an advisor for various organisations including UNESCO. She did not respond to emails from Reuters. The company website makes no reference to manufacturing.
The senior Lebanese security source identified a photograph of the model of the pager, an AP-924, which like other pagers wirelessly receive and display text messages but cannot make telephone calls.
Hezbollah fighters have been using pagers as a low-tech means of communication in an attempt to evade Israeli location-tracking, two sources familiar with the group's operations told Reuters this year.

they must have bought them on the cheap and got more than they bargained for. Would have got a better deal from ebay or aliexpress Wink

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Reply #55 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:50pm

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:34pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:17pm:

The pursuit of the terrorists is heating up.

Literally explosively! I thought you might have been one of the terrorists that lost a hand, their eyes or their balls.

Setanta has confessed to being a supporter of terrorism.

Hamas and Hezbollah are proscribed terrorist organisations, you support them and I'm the terrorist supporter? They should have sent you a free pager for all your posts here supporting them. That'd be a win.

Israel is a terrorist state. It will be implicated in the act of terror in Lebanon.

Even the MSM is chasing the evidence on the act of Israeli Jewish terrorism.

The UN is about to have a vote to compel Israel to withdraw from Gaza and the West Bank.

Setanta and Bvr will have to gather in Bvr's garage with other terrorists and mourn the end of Israel's occupation.

Israeli Jews have no good choices because they have committed heinous acts of mass murder, genocide, and crimes of occupation.

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Reply #56 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:

MattE wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 3:55pm:

I really love how this attack was executed.

You love the fact that an 8-year-old girl was killed?

8 or 10 years old.........

We need to abort her.

Then she could not grow up to be.......an 8 or 10 year old girl.

Massive Attack - Teardrop

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Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

We [individually] need to come to that place,
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Never mind other people greggery.

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Reply #57 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:54pm

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:34pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:17pm:

The pursuit of the terrorists is heating up.

Literally explosively! I thought you might have been one of the terrorists that lost a hand, their eyes or their balls.

He has an anal fixation, his pager would have rect-him.

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Reply #58 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:54pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:50pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-planted-explosives-hezbollahs-t...

TRAIL LEADS TO BUDAPEST

The senior Lebanese security source said the group had ordered 5,000 pagers from Gold Apollo, which several sources say were brought into the country earlier this year.
Gold Apollo founder Hsu Ching-Kuang said the pagers used in the explosion were made by a company in Europe that Gold Apollo named in a statement as BAC.
"The product was not ours. It was only that it had our brand on it," Hsu told reporters at the company's offices in the northern Taiwanese city of New Taipei on Wednesday.

The stated address for BAC Consulting in Budapest was a peach building on a mostly residential street in an outer suburb. The company name was posted on the glass door on an A4 sheet.

A person at the building who asked not to be named said BAC Consulting was registered at the address but did not have a physical presence there. Several other companies were also registered at that address though none answered telephone calls and physical inquiries from Reuters.

The CEO of BAC Consulting, Cristiana Barsony-Arcidiacono says on her LinkedIn profile that she has worked as an advisor for various organisations including UNESCO. She did not respond to emails from Reuters. The company website makes no reference to manufacturing.
The senior Lebanese security source identified a photograph of the model of the pager, an AP-924, which like other pagers wirelessly receive and display text messages but cannot make telephone calls.
Hezbollah fighters have been using pagers as a low-tech means of communication in an attempt to evade Israeli location-tracking, two sources familiar with the group's operations told Reuters this year.

they must have bought them on the cheap and got more than they bargained for. Would have got a better deal from ebay or aliexpress Wink

I wonder where the factory is that made them?

My bet is that the batteries were fake and had the explosives added inside.

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Reply #59 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:55pm

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:34pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:17pm:

The pursuit of the terrorists is heating up.

Literally explosively! I thought you might have been one of the terrorists that lost a hand, their eyes or their balls.

Setanta has confessed to being a supporter of terrorism.

Hamas and Hezbollah are proscribed terrorist organisations, you support them and I'm the terrorist supporter? They should have sent you a free pager for all your posts here supporting them. That'd be a win.

They only hate jews, so NP.

From the inception of Hezbollah to the present[21][22][23][24] the elimination of the state of Israel has been a primary goal for Hezbollah. Hezbollah opposes the government and policies of the State of Israel, and Jewish civilians who arrived following 1948.[25] Its 1985 manifesto reportedly states "our struggle will end only when this entity [Israel] is obliterated. We recognize no treaty with it, no ceasefire, and no peace agreements.

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Reply #60 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:56pm

Israel targeted Hezbollah, a proscribed terrorist organisation that started a war with Israel after Hamas, another proscribed terrorist organisation, invaded Israel. You are allowed to target your enemies in a war. Well done Israel. 3000 Hezbollah dead or injured with only one innocent killed in the crossfire. Well done.

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Reply #61 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:58pm

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:34pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:17pm:

The pursuit of the terrorists is heating up.

Literally explosively! I thought you might have been one of the terrorists that lost a hand, their eyes or their balls.

Setanta has confessed to being a supporter of terrorism.

Hamas and Hezbollah are proscribed terrorist organisations, you support them and I'm the terrorist supporter?

They should have sent you a free pager for all your posts here supporting them.

That'd be a win.

LOL

I like the way your mind works Setanta. Wink

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Reply #62 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:00pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:54pm:

My bet is that the batteries were fake and had the explosives added inside.

Probably manufactured in Taiwan and sent to Hungary.

The modifications made were more than the battery. There would have had to be the electronics that triggered the explosives and there had to be modifications to the software to enable the remote triggering.

It is likely that US Corporation Motorola is complicit because it is the licensee of the software used in the Pagers, and Motorola has been fingered as having a close association with Israeli security services.

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Reply #63 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:02pm

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:56pm:

Israel targeted Hezbollah, a proscribed terrorist organisation that started a war with Israel after Hamas, another proscribed terrorist organisation, invaded Israel. You are allowed to target your enemies in a war. Well done Israel. 3000 Hezbollah dead or injured with only one innocent killed in the crossfire. Well done.

The Middle East is a powder keg at the moment -
this could set it off and send 150,000 rockets on their way to Israel at any moment from Lebanon
and 10s of 1000s more from Iran and its proxies.

It was a stupid thing to do if Israel wanted to avoid an all out existential war.

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Reply #64 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:04pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 7:54pm:

My bet is that the batteries were fake and had the explosives added inside.

Probably manufactured in Taiwan and sent to Hungary.

The modifications made were more than the battery. There would have had to be the electronics that triggered the explosives and there had to be modifications to the software to enable the remote triggering.

It is likely that US Corporation Motorola is complicit because it is the licensee of the software used in the Pagers, and Motorola has been fingered as having a close association with Israeli security services.

yes - but the explosive and detonator in the battery and the software modified
to send a signal down the battery data line.

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Reply #65 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:15pm

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-820644

'Those behind it must be identified': World leaders condemn beeper attack in Lebanon
The Kremlin condemned the attack on Hezbollah using exploding pagers,
warning it could escalate into a broader regional conflict.

By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
SEPTEMBER 18, 2024 11:59
Updated: SEPTEMBER 18, 2024 13:09

The Kremlin warned on Wednesday that an attack on Lebanese group Hezbollah and others using exploding pagers could become a trigger for a wider regional conflict and that its perpetrators must be identified.

Tuesday's attack saw thousands of pagers detonate across Lebanon, killing nine people and wounding nearly 3,000 others, including the group's fighters and Iran's envoy to Beirut.

A senior Lebanese security source and another source told Reuters that Israel's Mossad spy agency planted explosives inside 5,000 pagers imported by the Lebanese group Hezbollah months before Tuesday's detonations.

"The causes and circumstances of the incident must be established, and those behind it must be identified," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

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Reply #68 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:15pm:

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-820644

'Those behind it must be identified': World leaders condemn beeper attack in Lebanon
The Kremlin condemned the attack on Hezbollah using exploding pagers,
warning it could escalate into a broader regional conflict.

By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
SEPTEMBER 18, 2024 11:59
Updated: SEPTEMBER 18, 2024 13:09

The Kremlin warned on Wednesday that an attack on Lebanese group Hezbollah and others using exploding pagers could become a trigger for a wider regional conflict and that its perpetrators must be identified.

Tuesday's attack saw thousands of pagers detonate across Lebanon, killing nine people and wounding nearly 3,000 others, including the group's fighters and Iran's envoy to Beirut.

A senior Lebanese security source and another source told Reuters that Israel's Mossad spy agency planted explosives inside 5,000 pagers imported by the Lebanese group Hezbollah months before Tuesday's detonations.

"The causes and circumstances of the incident must be established, and those behind it must be identified," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

Did anyone warn the Kremlin what could happen if it invaded Ukraine?

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Reply #69 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:02pm:

The Middle East is a powder keg at the moment -
this could set it off and send 150,000 rockets on their way to Israel at any moment from Lebanon
and 10s of 1000s more from Iran and its proxies.

It was a stupid thing to do

if, if, if Israel wanted to avoid an all out existential war.

bobby,

Yes.

It would seem that way.    [.....a stupid provocation by Israel,
......unless Israel actually wants to provoke Hezbollah,
to send 10's thousands of rockets] ???

Maybe Israel wants a provocation [i.e. an act of war] from Hezbollah,
.....to justify Israel flattening Beirut ???

Maybe Israel is tired of this current 'war of attrition'    ....with 'Lebanon' ????

And would like to get serious.    ......and 'spank' Hezbollah, really hard ???

i.e.
Like Israel has, in Gaza, with Hamas.

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Reply #70 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:23pm

Setanta wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:15pm:

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-820644

'Those behind it must be identified': World leaders condemn beeper attack in Lebanon
The Kremlin condemned the attack on Hezbollah using exploding pagers,
warning it could escalate into a broader regional conflict.

By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
SEPTEMBER 18, 2024 11:59
Updated: SEPTEMBER 18, 2024 13:09

The Kremlin warned on Wednesday that an attack on Lebanese group Hezbollah and others using exploding pagers could become a trigger for a wider regional conflict and that its perpetrators must be identified.

Tuesday's attack saw thousands of pagers detonate across Lebanon, killing nine people and wounding nearly 3,000 others, including the group's fighters and Iran's envoy to Beirut.

A senior Lebanese security source and another source told Reuters that Israel's Mossad spy agency planted explosives inside 5,000 pagers imported by the Lebanese group Hezbollah months before Tuesday's detonations.

"The causes and circumstances of the incident must be established, and those behind it must be identified," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

Did anyone warn the Kremlin what could happen if it invaded Ukraine?

Good point but still what will happen now in Israel? Shocked

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Reply #72 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:24pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:02pm:

The Middle East is a powder keg at the moment -
this could set it off and send 150,000 rockets on their way to Israel at any moment from Lebanon
and 10s of 1000s more from Iran and its proxies.

It was a stupid thing to do

if, if, if Israel wanted to avoid an all out existential war.

bobby,

Yes.

It would seem that way.    [.....a stupid provocation by Israel,
......unless Israel actually wants to provoke Hezbollah,
to send 10's thousands of rockets] ???

Maybe Israel wants a provocation [i.e. an act of war] from Hezbollah,
.....to justify Israel flattening Beirut ???

Maybe Israel is tired of this current 'war of attrition'    ....with 'Lebanon' ????

And would like to get serious.    ......and 'spank' Hezbollah, really hard ???

i.e.
Like Israel has, in Gaza, with Hamas.

The soldiers in Israel are worn out -
can they really fight a massive war right now?

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Reply #75 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:53pm

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/17/hezbollah-pager-explosion-israel-didnt-tell-bid...

A U.S. official said that several minutes before the pagers started exploding across Lebanon, Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant called U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and told him Israel was going to conduct an operation in Lebanon soon, but refused to give any specific details.

The U.S. official said the Israelis didn't tell the U.S. about the specifics of the operation, but added that Gallant's call was an attempt to avoid keeping the U.S. totally in the dark.
Nevertheless, U.S. officials said they didn't see Gallant's call as a serious prior notice. "We were not aware of this operation and were not involved," U.S. State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller told reporters on Tuesday.
Austin spoke to Gallant on the phone twice on Tuesday and discussed the situation, Israeli and U.S. officials said.

Driving the news: The operation was approved earlier this week during security meetings with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and senior members of his cabinet and the heads of the security services, a source with knowledge said.

It took place a day after U.S. envoy Amos Hochstein visited Israel and warned Netanyahu of the consequences of a major escalation in Lebanon.
On Tuesday, Netanyahu and Israel's Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant spent several hours at the IDF command center in Tel Aviv, an Israeli official said.

The source said Israeli intelligence services assessed ahead of the operation
that Hezbollah would likely retaliate with a major attack against Israel.

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Reply #76 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:57pm

Hsu Ching-Kuang the Taiwanese owner of the brand and Cristiana Barsony-Arcidiacono the purported licensee for EU manufacture are both criminally complicit. Its likely that Mossad will terminate both with prejudice to prevent further information becoming known from investigations into the terrorist crime.

Cristiana Barsony-Arcidiacono should be speaking from behind bars.

The plot thickens:

... Asked about the pagers and the explosions, the CEO of BAC Consulting, Cristiana Barsony-Arcidiacono, told Sky News: "I don't make the pagers. I am just the intermediate. I think you got it wrong." ...

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Reply #77 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 9:16pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:57pm:

Hsu Ching-Kuang the Taiwanese owner of the brand and Cristiana Barsony-Arcidiacono the purported licensee for EU manufacture are both criminally complicit. Its likely that Mossad will terminate both with prejudice to prevent further information becoming known from investigations into the terrorist crime.

Cristiana Barsony-Arcidiacono should be speaking from behind bars.

The plot thickens:

... Asked about the pagers and the explosions, the CEO of BAC Consulting, Cristiana Barsony-Arcidiacono, told Sky News: "I don't make the pagers. I am just the intermediate. I think you got it wrong." ...

They should terminate you with prejudice for your terrorist propagander. Don't keep your phone in your front pocket or you'll really make me "Laugh till I cry" if it combusts violently and fries your eggs..

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Reply #78 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 9:26pm

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/lebanon-pagers-explode-hezbollah-israel-...

19 min ago

Two children were killed in pager attacks, Lebanese health minister says

From CNN’s Tamara Qiblawi and Sarah El Sirgany

At least two children were killed in Tuesday’s pager attacks across Lebanon, the country’s Health Minister Firass Abiad said.

The nature of the injuries show that many of the pagers were in homes, where children were playing with the devices, Abiad added in a Wednesday news conference.

It is unclear how many Hezbollah members were killed in the explosions.

When asked by CNN on Wednesday, Hezbollah lawmaker Hussein Haj Hassan did not specify how many among the dead were Hezbollah members.

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Reply #79 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 9:32pm

Will Egypt join in?

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/lebanon-pagers-explode-hezbollah-israel-...

Blinken says US "did not know" about Lebanon pager attacks, urges "all parties" not to escalate conflict
From CNN's Rob Picheta and Kylie Atwood

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has urged “all parties” in the Middle East to avoid “any steps that could escalate the conflict” in Gaza, after Lebanon blamed Israel for a series of pager explosions that targeted Hezbollah members.

Blinken said during a news conference in Egypt that the United States “did not know about nor was it involved in these incidents.”

“We’re still gathering the information and gathering the facts,” Blinken told reporters. “We remain very clear about the importance of all parties avoiding any steps that could further escalate the conflict in Gaza.”

Blinken was talking alongside Egypt’s Foreign Minister Badr Abdelatty who condemned the attacks and warned that escalations could lead to the Middle East “moving to the edge of comprehensive regional war.”

“Egypt is against any unilateral action that can attack the sovereignty of Lebanon,” Abdelatty said.
“We are in full solidarity with the government of Lebanon and the people of Lebanon.

“We will condemn any targeting of the Lebanese sovereignty,” he added.

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Reply #81 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:01pm

https://www.timesofisrael.com/use-it-or-lose-it-israel-reportedly-set-off-pagers...

‘Use it or lose it’: Israel reportedly set off pagers amid fears plot was exposed

Mossad reportedly put explosives in thousands of pagers during production
before devices reached Lebanon, planning to detonate them in the event of full-scale war

Israel caused thousands of Hezbollah terror group pagers to explode Tuesday, killing nine people and wounding nearly 3,000, amid fears that Hezbollah was about to uncover that the devices had been tampered with, according to Wednesday reports.

Israeli intelligence services originally wanted to detonate the pagers as an opening blow in an all-out war against Hezbollah, Axios reported, citing American and Israeli officials. They chose to act early, however, when a Hezbollah member became suspicious of the devices and planned to alert his superiors, Al-Monitor reported.

Just days earlier, a different Hezbollah member had come to suspect the devices had been tampered with, and then he was killed, Al-Monitor said.

Upon learning of the suspicions, Israeli leaders reportedly considered launching an immediate full-scale war in order to retain the pager attack as an opening blow. They also considered leaving things as they were, even at the risk of the operation being compromised, according to the Al-Monitor report.

Israel has not commented on the detonations, neither claiming nor denying responsibility.

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Reply #85 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:17pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:11pm:

@ Reply #81,

Yes bobby, that [the fear of potential discovery] would be an incentive,
to activate the option, to injure so many Hezbollah operatives.

Use it, before you lose it.

Scott Ritter | "This is Hezbollah's 9/11 and it's DEVASTATING" - Redacted

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Reply #86 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 11:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:24pm:

Yadda wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:22pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:02pm:

The Middle East is a powder keg at the moment -
this could set it off and send 150,000 rockets on their way to Israel at any moment from Lebanon
and 10s of 1000s more from Iran and its proxies.

It was a stupid thing to do

if, if, if Israel wanted to avoid an all out existential war.

bobby,

Yes.

It would seem that way.    [.....a stupid provocation by Israel,
......unless Israel actually wants to provoke Hezbollah,
to send 10's thousands of rockets] ???

Maybe Israel wants a provocation [i.e. an act of war] from Hezbollah,
.....to justify Israel flattening Beirut ???

Maybe Israel is tired of this current 'war of attrition'    ....with 'Lebanon' ????

And would like to get serious.    ......and 'spank' Hezbollah, really hard ???

i.e.
Like Israel has, in Gaza, with Hamas.

The soldiers in Israel are worn out -
can they really fight a massive war right now?

Reinforcements are coming.... 17-75 ....they shall not pass.....

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Reply #87 - Sep 18^th, 2024 at 11:19pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 11:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 8:24pm:

The soldiers in Israel are worn out -
can they really fight a massive war right now?

Reinforcements are coming.... 17-75 ....they shall not pass.....

Speaketh not in riddles.

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Arab citizens and singers have launched songs and videos, calling it '#Pager and Pegering,' celebrating Israel's successful targeting of over 5,000 Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon with just a click from Tel Aviv. This is how you bring them home—by sending these savages to hell. Meanwhile, you will see protesters in London and New York tomorrow, chanting "from pagers to Nokia.. #Lebanon will be free."

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Sunni Arabs are mocking Shia Hezbollah, they mocked Hezbollah when they attacked Israel in retalition with missile landing on a Chicken farm.

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18454 Gender:	Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon Reply #92 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:14am As the videos show people standing next to Hezbollah terrorists were able to run away without injuries. I wonder what else the Yahud have up their sleeves to whack Hezbollah
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18454 Gender:	Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon Reply #93 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:40am Looks like the Mossad has a few more bombs reports of Hezbollah walkie talkies blowing up. Quote: JUST NOW FROM THE HEZBOLLAH FUNERAL. https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1836411895915413509
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Reply #94 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 5:15am

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:40am:

Looks like the Mossad has a few more bombs reports of Hezbollah walkie talkies blowing up.

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JUST NOW FROM THE HEZBOLLAH FUNERAL.

https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1836411895915413509

To blow up people at a funeral seems sick to me.

Why were people still carrying the Pagers after what happened the day before?
How stupid could they be?

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Reply #95 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 5:39am

It wasn't pagers this time but walkie-talkies .

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/lebanon-pagers-explode-hezbollah-israel-...

Lebanese foreign minister fears "introduction of war" after 2 days of device explosions

From CNN's Caitlin Danaher

Lebanon’s Foreign Minister Abdallah Bou Habib told CNN he fears that theconsecutive deadly attacks in Lebanon signal a move to an “introduction to war.”

The foreign minister’s comments come

after walkie-talkies exploded in the country

a day after pager blasts killed at least 12 people.

“It’s a scary moment and we are afraid (of) coming to war, because we don’t want a war,” said the foreign minister, who blamed Israel for the attacks. “There were skirmishes on the borders, sometimes escalated (…) but now you’re talking about a war, it’s the introduction to a war,” he said, calling on the United Nations Security Council and United States to help reestablish peace along the Lebanon-Israel border.
“We cannot talk to Hezbollah now in the way we were talking to them in the past because, of course, they were hit very badly and therefore retaliation is a must to them,” he added.

CNN has learned that Israel was behind Tuesday’s attacks, though Israeli officials have not commented on either day’s attacks.
Dozens of walkie talkie blasts: Preliminary information on the walkie-talkie attack suggests there was between 15 to 20 explosions in the southern suburbs of Beirut, and a further 15 to 20 blasts in southern Lebanon, a source said.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104568 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon Reply #96 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 5:52am 4 hr 15 min ago A look at the walkie-talkies after they exploded - made by ICOM. Exploded walkie-talkies in Lebanon on September 18. Obtained by CNN https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/lebanon-pagers-explode-hezbollah-israel-...
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Reply #98 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 9:45am

Yadda wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 9:37am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 11:57pm:

Video showing busy hospital treating Hezbollah terrorists.
https://x.com/BritisherPaz49/status/1836090538535129178

The Houthis in Yemen are probably watching all of this.

And wondering how they too, will be 'rewarded'.

Israel is the epitome of Go F*ck Yourself, it's implementation, and it's consequences.

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Reply #100 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 9:57am

This is so interesting! It is like a spy movie. First, Israel have to penetrate deep into the ranks of their enemy. Find out where they sourced the pages and walkie talkie. And meticulously working with the manufacturers to install those explosive into the device.

Note, both pages and walkie talkies are small devices. So, to add explosives to these small devices without the end user's knowledging, meant it was done meticulously. E.g. at least the original adhesive would still had to be in place, and it does not look tampered.

And what about those explosives? If they are from Israel, who did they even get into the device? Someone had to import enough explosives to injury thousands, it is no small feat.

And lastly... the Taiwan company is accusing a Hungarian company of tampering. The same company is just a shell company. But how did they even get around EU sanctions and sold these devices to a listed terrorist organization?

So many questions. There is alot more to this story.

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Reply #102 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:07am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 5:15am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:40am:

Looks like the Mossad has a few more bombs reports of Hezbollah walkie talkies blowing up.

Quote:

JUST NOW FROM THE HEZBOLLAH FUNERAL.

https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1836411895915413509

To blow up people at a funeral seems sick to me.

Yep.

Netanyahu is sick alright.

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tickleandrose Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4013 Gender:	Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon Reply #104 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:43am Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:34am: Stop attacking Israel. That's all it takes. Its not that simple.
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Reply #105 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 11:27am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:07am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 5:15am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:40am:

Looks like the Mossad has a few more bombs reports of Hezbollah walkie talkies blowing up.

Quote:

JUST NOW FROM THE HEZBOLLAH FUNERAL.

https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1836411895915413509

To blow up people at a funeral seems sick to me.

Yep.

Netanyahu is sick alright.

Yes - not even the worst gangsters in Chicago would do something like that.

Notice that Albo and Penny haven't condemned it?

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Reply #107 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:21pm

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:19pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:43am:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:34am:

Stop attacking Israel.

That's all it takes.

Its not that simple.

It is exactly that simple - the only entities Israel hits back at are the ones that attack it.

10-year-old girls?

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Reply #109 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:28pm

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:19pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:43am:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:34am:

Stop attacking Israel.

That's all it takes.

Its not that simple.

It is exactly that simple - the only entities Israel hits back at are the ones that attack it.

How many wars has Israel started since 1948?

No, I think at minimum, they are waiting for their illegally occupied land to be returned to the Palestinians, and stop any further illegal expansion. To that end.... I dont think this is going to stop. And so, the cycle of violence will go on.

There is no stopping. Too many have being killed. People want their land back. People want to take vengence for the death of their families. It will not stop now.

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Reply #110 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:30pm

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-09-18/ty-article/air-france-transavia-e...

On Tuesday night, following the radio device explosions in Lebanon and increased security tensions, Lufthansa and Air France announced the cancellation of flights to Israel.

The German Lufthansa Group stated that all flights to Israel are canceled until Thursday, September 19 (inclusive).

Air France, Transavia Extend Israel Flight Suspension Until Friday Amid Lebanon Escalation

The French and Dutch airlines have announced that they will not resume flights to Ben Gurion Airport before September 20. British airline Virgin Atlantic stated it will resume its Tel Aviv-London flights as scheduled next week

French airline Air France has extended its suspension of flights to and from Israel, announcing on Wednesday that it will not resume flights to Ben Gurion Airport before September 20.

Dutch low-cost carrier Transavia Airlines has also announced that it will cancel its flights to Israel until and including September 19.

British airline Virgin Atlantic, which operates the Tel Aviv-London route, has stated it will resume flights to Israel on September 25 as originally planned.

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Reply #112 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:47pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:28pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:19pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:43am:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:34am:

Stop attacking Israel.

That's all it takes.

Its not that simple.

It is exactly that simple - the only entities Israel hits back at are the ones that attack it.

How many wars has Israel started since 1948?

No, I think at minimum, they are waiting for their illegally occupied land to be returned to the Palestinians, and stop any further illegal expansion. To that end.... I dont think this is going to stop. And so, the cycle of violence will go on.

There is no stopping. Too many have being killed. People want their land back. People want to take vengence for the death of their families. It will not stop now.

Those occupied territories were under Egyptian and Jordanian control until they... er... attacked Israel in 1967.

Those territories have not been part of any sovereign state since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
There has never been a Palestinian state. They rejected every offer to form a state because they want tf to eliminate Israel, not live side by side with it.

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Reply #113 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:57pm

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:47pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:28pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:19pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:43am:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:34am:

Stop attacking Israel.

That's all it takes.

Its not that simple.

It is exactly that simple - the only entities Israel hits back at are the ones that attack it.

How many wars has Israel started since 1948?

No, I think at minimum, they are waiting for their illegally occupied land to be returned to the Palestinians, and stop any further illegal expansion. To that end.... I dont think this is going to stop. And so, the cycle of violence will go on.

There is no stopping. Too many have being killed. People want their land back. People want to take vengence for the death of their families. It will not stop now.

Those occupied territories were under Egyptian and Jordanian control until they... er... attacked Israel in 1967.

Those territories have not been part of any sovereign state since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
There has never been a Palestinian state. They rejected every offer to form a state because they want tf to eliminate Israel, not live side by side with it.

As matter of fact prior to 1967 the Arabs resented to be called Palestinians preferring to be known as Jordanian, Syrian or Egyptian Arabs.

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Reply #115 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:57pm

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:47pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:28pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:19pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:43am:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:34am:

Stop attacking Israel.

That's all it takes.

Its not that simple.

It is exactly that simple - the only entities Israel hits back at are the ones that attack it.

How many wars has Israel started since 1948?

No, I think at minimum, they are waiting for their illegally occupied land to be returned to the Palestinians, and stop any further illegal expansion. To that end.... I dont think this is going to stop. And so, the cycle of violence will go on.

There is no stopping. Too many have being killed. People want their land back. People want to take vengence for the death of their families. It will not stop now.

Those occupied territories were under Egyptian and Jordanian control until they... er... attacked Israel in 1967.

Those territories have not been part of any sovereign state since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
There has never been a Palestinian state. They rejected every offer to form a state because they want tf to eliminate Israel, not live side by side with it.

I was referring to the people who lived there locally for many generations before the purge in 1948, and also the people who were forced to flee after expansion of illegal settlements. After fall of the Ottoman empire, these people were used to be under protection of Britain. But they were expelled or fled from their homes, at first by Zionist paramilitaries, and after the establishment of Israel, by its military. People want those lands back.

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Reply #118 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 1:39pm

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:57pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:47pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:28pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 12:19pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:43am:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:34am:

Stop attacking Israel.

That's all it takes.

Its not that simple.

It is exactly that simple - the only entities Israel hits back at are the ones that attack it.

How many wars has Israel started since 1948?

No, I think at minimum, they are waiting for their illegally occupied land to be returned to the Palestinians, and stop any further illegal expansion. To that end.... I dont think this is going to stop. And so, the cycle of violence will go on.

There is no stopping. Too many have being killed. People want their land back. People want to take vengence for the death of their families. It will not stop now.

Those occupied territories were under Egyptian and Jordanian control until they... er... attacked Israel in 1967.

Those territories have not been part of any sovereign state since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
There has never been a Palestinian state. They rejected every offer to form a state because they want tf to eliminate Israel, not live side by side with it.

As matter of fact prior to 1967 the Arabs resented to be called Palestinians preferring to be known as Jordanian, Syrian or Egyptian Arabs.

That actually may be true! I have a keen interest in European history particularly around the Crusades and events of world war 1.

In 1916, T.E Lawrence was posted to Hejaz, in modern Saudi Arabia, to work with the Hashemite forces. His role was to act as a liaison officer between the British government and the Arab tribes. The British were attempting to rally the Arabs against the ruling Ottoman Empire. And he was successful. The original deal was the Arabs supposed to be given an independent Arab state that would include modern day Saudi Arabia, all the way to Iraq and Syria.

Of course, they were deceived. After the war, Middle East was partitioned, and the lands were divided up like spoils of war between Britain and France. And The British Mandate for Palestine was born.

In an act of protest, T.E Lawrence refused to accept medals from the King, and wrote repeatedly to newspapers to promote Arab independence.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon Reply #119 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 1:53pm I read "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom" by T.E. Lawrence. There are quiet few interesting observations there especially about full cultural immersion.
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Reply #120 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:01pm

tallowood wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:31am:

The pagers of Hezbollah supporters could have explosives installed. Apparently, they use these gadgets to exchange or receive encrypted messages. If the Israelis capture a militant or his device, the pager will be detonated remotely, destroying the information. It is possible that the secret services managed to figure out how exactly this is done and send the necessary signal to subscribers.

Pagers and now other comm devices, what do they have in common and why the bangs were localized to Lebanon only?

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Reply #123 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:14pm

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:31am:

The pagers of Hezbollah supporters could have explosives installed. Apparently, they use these gadgets to exchange or receive encrypted messages. If the Israelis capture a militant or his device,
the pager will be detonated remotely, destroying the information. It is possible that the secret services managed to figure out how exactly this is done and send the necessary signal to subscribers.

Pagers and now other comm devices, what do they have in common and why the bangs were localized to Lebanon only?

I strongly doubt that.

Something as violent as an explosion is not necessary to wipe the memory from a device.

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Reply #124 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:24pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce9jglrnmkvo

It identified the device as an ICOM-V82 handheld VHF radio,
which is a now-discontinued model made by the Japan-based electronics manufacturer ICOM.

NNA said another ICOM-V82 exploded at a house on the outskirts of the nearby town of Baalbek.
Video footage showed fire damage to a table and wall,
as well as damaged parts of what appeared to be a walkie-talkie bearing the label “ICOM”.

An ICOM-branded walkie talkie was destroyed by a blast at a house on the outskirts of Baalbek

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Reply #126 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:14pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:31am:

The pagers of Hezbollah supporters could have explosives installed. Apparently, they use these gadgets to exchange or receive encrypted messages. If the Israelis capture a militant or his device,
the pager will be detonated remotely, destroying the information. It is possible that the secret services managed to figure out how exactly this is done and send the necessary signal to subscribers.

Pagers and now other comm devices, what do they have in common and why the bangs were localized to Lebanon only?

I strongly doubt that.
Something as violent as an explosion is not necessary to wipe the memory from a device.

Hezbollah is not new to booby traps tactics, In April 2013, a jihadi forum member published a Lebanese
Hezbollah instructional video on how to make a booby-trap or anti-handling device. Arabs used these ideas to booby-trap Palestinian flags on border.

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Reply #127 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:38pm:

Jesus Christ - how many companies have been compromised by Israel?

I think no companies are safe now. If they can put explosives into a device like a pager. What would stop them from putting it into an IPAD or a iphone? What if there is a relative of HAMAs leaders living in secret somewhere in Australia, and that device explodes whilst he or she is in the shopping centre. This is scary stuff! Cry

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Reply #128 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:14pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:31am:

The pagers of Hezbollah supporters could have explosives installed. Apparently, they use these gadgets to exchange or receive encrypted messages. If the Israelis capture a militant or his device,
the pager will be detonated remotely, destroying the information. It is possible that the secret services managed to figure out how exactly this is done and send the necessary signal to subscribers.

Pagers and now other comm devices, what do they have in common and why the bangs were localized to Lebanon only?

I strongly doubt that.

Something as violent as an explosion is not necessary to wipe the memory from a device.

My conspiracy theory is that, these were planted with purpose of disrupting communication, in preparation for a ground invasion. It may have being uncovered accidentally, leading to earlier detonation.

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Reply #129 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:11pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:38pm:

Jesus Christ - how many companies have been compromised by Israel?

I think no companies are safe now. If they can put explosives into a device like a pager. What would stop them from putting it into an IPAD or a iphone? What if there is a relative of HAMAs leaders living in secret somewhere in Australia, and that device explodes whilst he or she is in the shopping centre. This is scary stuff! Cry

Israel doesn't respect any company or any other country.
They forged Australian passports to help murder a man in Dubai.
Why does anyone continue to do business with them?
Why do we?
We should have broken off all relations with them forever.
They are not our friends.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-05-24/israeli-diplomat-expelled-over-fake-passp...

Israeli diplomat expelled over fake passport affair
online political correspondent Emma Rodgers

Topic:Foreign Affairs

Mon 24 May 2010

The Federal Government is expelling an Israeli diplomat after it found
Israel faked Australian passports that were used in a hit on a top Hamas leader in Dubai.

Foreign Minister Stephen Smith today condemned the fraud as "not the act of a friend"
and a clear affront to Australia that cannot be tolerated.

"This is not what we expect from a nation with whom we have had such a close, friendly and supportive relationship," he said.

In February several forged Australian passports were used in the assassination of Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Mabhouh.

Mr Smith confirmed investigations by Australian Federal Police, ASIO and ASIS showed Israel fabricated the passports of four Australians who also had Israeli citizenship.

"The high quality of these counterfeited passports points to involvement of a state intelligence service," he said.

"These investigations and advice have left the Australian Government in no doubt that Israel was responsible for the abuse and counterfeiting of these passports."

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Reply #130 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:14pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:05pm:

I think no companies are safe now. If they can put explosives into a device like a pager. What would stop them from putting it into an IPAD or a iphone? What if there is a relative of HAMAs leaders living in secret somewhere in Australia, and that device explodes whilst he or she is in the shopping centre. This is scary stuff! Cry

So why there were no reports about comm devices explosions outside of Lebanon, not even in Gaza?

May be the work was not done by Mossad or for that matter by Israelis.

It could be internal straggle in Hezbollah itself. Nasrallah was Hezbollah leader for 32 years too long and not everybody in the organization were happy with his decision making process especially about the war.

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Reply #133 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:22pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:17pm:

Some of the worlds worst terrorists are dropping like flies with extremely low collateral damage and people are upset?

No surprise we have so many supporters of Islamic terror here.

Some people like to be upset, they think it will get them victim-hood compo benefits.

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Reply #135 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:26pm

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:14pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:05pm:

I think no companies are safe now. If they can put explosives into a device like a pager. What would stop them from putting it into an IPAD or a iphone? What if there is a relative of HAMAs leaders living in secret somewhere in Australia, and that device explodes whilst he or she is in the shopping centre. This is scary stuff! Cry

So why there were no reports about comm devices explosions outside of Lebanon, not even in Gaza?

May be the work was not done by Mossad or for that matter by Israelis.

It could be internal straggle in Hezbollah itself. Nasrallah was Hezbollah leader for 32 years too long and not everybody in the organization were happy with his decision making process especially about the war.

May be it had something to do with the infrastructure. It needs radio transmitters for longer distances and has its unique frequency range. So…
A) Perhaps the radio transmitter range does not extend behind Lebanon.
B) The frequency protocol they use may not be compatible with those from another country.

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Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:22pm:

Motorola is implicated in the exploding pagers because of its association with the Israeli military.

Motorola was once a major manufacturer of pagers and licensed its technology to third partiees.

This will be bad news for Motorola on many fronts.

It would make sense! Motorola is owned by Lenovo, a Chinese company. China would love it if USA gets dragged into another never ending war in Lebanon.

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tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:26pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:14pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:05pm:

I think no companies are safe now. If they can put explosives into a device like a pager. What would stop them from putting it into an IPAD or a iphone? What if there is a relative of HAMAs leaders living in secret somewhere in Australia, and that device explodes whilst he or she is in the shopping centre. This is scary stuff! Cry

So why there were no reports about comm devices explosions outside of Lebanon, not even in Gaza?

May be the work was not done by Mossad or for that matter by Israelis.

It could be internal straggle in Hezbollah itself. Nasrallah was Hezbollah leader for 32 years too long and not everybody in the organization were happy with his decision making process especially about the war.

May be it had something to do with the infrastructure. It needs radio transmitters for longer distances and has its unique frequency range. So…
A) Perhaps the radio transmitter range does not extend behind Lebanon.
B) The frequency protocol they use may not be compatible with those from another country.

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somewhere in Australia

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Reply #140 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:33pm

chimera wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:29pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:22pm:

Some people like to be upset, they think it will get them victim-hood compo benefits.

Yes, the nazi Ukrainian march into Moscow is upsetting.

Pooftah, you are all over the place, go to Ukraine war thread to wet-dream there.

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Reply #141 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:37pm

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:29pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:26pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:14pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:05pm:

I think no companies are safe now. If they can put explosives into a device like a pager. What would stop them from putting it into an IPAD or a iphone? What if there is a relative of HAMAs leaders living in secret somewhere in Australia, and that device explodes whilst he or she is in the shopping centre. This is scary stuff! Cry

So why there were no reports about comm devices explosions outside of Lebanon, not even in Gaza?

May be the work was not done by Mossad or for that matter by Israelis.

It could be internal straggle in Hezbollah itself. Nasrallah was Hezbollah leader for 32 years too long and not everybody in the organization were happy with his decision making process especially about the war.

May be it had something to do with the infrastructure. It needs radio transmitters for longer distances and has its unique frequency range. So…
A) Perhaps the radio transmitter range does not extend behind Lebanon.
B) The frequency protocol they use may not be compatible with those from another country.

Quote:

somewhere in Australia

?

They can easily put the explosives in an Ipad or an iphone, and use a different method of detonation. No devices are safe now.

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Reply #142 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:49pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:37pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:29pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:26pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:14pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:05pm:

I think no companies are safe now. If they can put explosives into a device like a pager. What would stop them from putting it into an IPAD or a iphone? What if there is a relative of HAMAs leaders living in secret somewhere in Australia, and that device explodes whilst he or she is in the shopping centre. This is scary stuff! Cry

So why there were no reports about comm devices explosions outside of Lebanon, not even in Gaza?

May be the work was not done by Mossad or for that matter by Israelis.

It could be internal straggle in Hezbollah itself. Nasrallah was Hezbollah leader for 32 years too long and not everybody in the organization were happy with his decision making process especially about the war.

May be it had something to do with the infrastructure. It needs radio transmitters for longer distances and has its unique frequency range. So…
A) Perhaps the radio transmitter range does not extend behind Lebanon.
B) The frequency protocol they use may not be compatible with those from another country.

Quote:

somewhere in Australia

?

They can easily put the explosives in an Ipad or an iphone, and use a different method of detonation. No devices are safe now.

They would use sharks, laughing kookaburras and drop bears in Australia.

in the past several years, Israel in particular has been accused of using all manner of birds and beasts to collect intelligence. From Hamas to the Turkish agricultural ministry, the accusers have been adamant in proclaiming the supposed threat of Zionist critter-surveillance.

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OLD: Islam as a Military Empire
Judaism as a exiled Religion

NEW: Israel as a Military Empire
Mohommedism as an exiled Religion

...thus the moon (Sin) changes the tide. Wink

Judaism is a cult, not a religion.

Israeli Jews have been served with an eviction notice by the ICJ and the UN.

Next stop for the Israeli Jews, New York, the real Jewish homeland.

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Australian Senator Fatima Payman originally hails from Afghanistan.

She issued no statement last month when the Taliban banned the sound of women’s voices in public and instituted a full gender apartheid regime.

But she’s furious at attacks targeting Hezbollah. Weird.

https://x.com/DrewPavlou/status/1836643101609464285

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greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 5:30pm:

Conservatives continue to masturbate over the dead bodies of 10-year-old girls.

Sick.

No sicker than tnucs like you & LTYC have in supporting child raping & murdering terrorist bastards like Hamas & Hezbollah terrorists - supported also by at least 99% of Gazans.

And they - prior to Oct 7th had been continually firing rockets into Israel form Gaza & Lebanon.

Israel has a right to defend itself from terrorist scum who what the annihilation of all Jews & their removal from the ME.

I fully support their actions in targeting Hamas & Hezbollah operatives by sabotaging their own gear/devices paid for by the humanitarian aid sent for the people - not these scumbags.

There is always collateral damage in war ... Israel have done their best with this action to minimalise that damage.

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Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 5:36pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 4:42pm:

OLD: Islam as a Military Empire
Judaism as a exiled Religion

NEW: Israel as a Military Empire
Mohommedism as an exiled Religion

...thus the moon (Sin) changes the tide. Wink

Judaism is a cult, not a religion.

Israeli Jews have been served with an eviction notice by the ICJ and the UN.

Next stop for the Israeli Jews, New York, the real Jewish homeland.

Wanker - Islam is a cult. Mohamads cult.

A murderous, lying, untrustworthy patriarchal cult.

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Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 6:09pm:

Australian Senator Fatima Payman originally hails from Afghanistan.

She issued no statement last month when the Taliban banned the sound of women’s voices in public and instituted a full gender apartheid regime.

But she’s furious at attacks targeting Hezbollah. Weird.

https://x.com/DrewPavlou/status/1836643101609464285

She has no place being in Australian politics as a senator.... she & Mereen Faruqui ... and that rabid tart Lydia Thorpe.

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Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 5:36pm:

Judaism is a cult, not a religion.

Israeli Jews have been served with an eviction notice by the ICJ and the UN.

Next stop for the Israeli Jews, New York, the real Jewish homeland.

Have you asked the red Indians about that?

No, because the brown Jews might take offense.

The white Jews won't have any problem with New York as the Jewish homeland.

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Gnads wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 6:55pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 6:09pm:

Australian Senator Fatima Payman originally hails from Afghanistan.

She issued no statement last month when the Taliban banned the sound of women’s voices in public and instituted a full gender apartheid regime.

But she’s furious at attacks targeting Hezbollah. Weird.

https://x.com/DrewPavlou/status/1836643101609464285

She has no place being in Australian politics as a senator.... she & Mereen Faruqui ... and that rabid tart Lydia Thorpe.

She is there because she has real balls, unlike Gnads' fashion accessory balls.

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BEIRUT, Sept 18 (Reuters) - Israel's Mossad spy agency planted a small amount of explosives inside 5000 Taiwan-made pagers ordered by Lebanese group Hezbollah months before Tuesday's detonations, a senior Lebanese security source and another source told Reuters.
The details shed light on an unprecedented Hezbollah security breach that saw thousands of pagers detonate across Lebanon, killing nine people and wounding nearly 3,000 others, including the group's fighters and Iran's envoy to Beirut.
Iran-backed Hezbollah has vowed to retaliate against Israel, whose military declined to comment on the blasts.
The plot appears to have been many months in the making, several sources told Reuters.
The senior Lebanese security source said the group had ordered 5,000 beepers made by Taiwan-based Gold Apollo, which several sources say were brought into the country in the spring.

Another security source told Reuters that up to three grams of explosives
were hidden in the new pagers and had gone "undetected" by Hezbollah for months.

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Who made those pagers and walkie talkies?

Civilian companies can't have explosives -
it's all highly illegal - it's a huge crime.
Some company in Europe did it - we have yet to find out the culprit.
The company in Hungary was just a front.
I can't wait for the police to track it all down -
it's gone all quiet.

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Reply #157 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Who made those pagers and walkie talkies?

Civilian companies can't have explosives -
it's all highly illegal - it's a huge crime.
Some company in Europe did it - we have yet to find out the culprit.
The company in Hungary was just a front.
I can't wait for the police to track it all down -
it's gone all quiet.

someone in Israel must have intercepted the order to Tailwan and then placed the order from a location in Hungary as a proxy. From there they modified the items and once finished sent them to Hezbollah.

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Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Who made those pagers and walkie talkies?

Civilian companies can't have explosives -
it's all highly illegal - it's a huge crime.
Some company in Europe did it - we have yet to find out the culprit.
The company in Hungary was just a front.
I can't wait for the police to track it all down -
it's gone all quiet.

someone in Israel must have intercepted the order to Tailwan and then placed the order from a location in Hungary as a proxy. From there they modified the items and once finished sent them to Hezbollah.

But who made them in Europe?
Many people must have known and been highly involved.
How did they get explosives?
How could factory workers even use dangerous explosives and high tech micro detonators?
Only military companies with arms export licenses
and all sorts of legislative controls could legally do that.
We're talking about 5,000 pagers alone -
and then an unknown number of walkie talkies.
Explosives are easily picked up at ports or airports so how could they have shipped them?
It's a massive operation.

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Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Who made those pagers and walkie talkies?

Civilian companies can't have explosives -
it's all highly illegal - it's a huge crime.
Some company in Europe did it - we have yet to find out the culprit.
The company in Hungary was just a front.
I can't wait for the police to track it all down -
it's gone all quiet.

someone in Israel must have intercepted the order to Tailwan and then placed the order from a location in Hungary as a proxy. From there they modified the items and once finished sent them to Hezbollah.

But who made them in Europe?
Many people must have known and been highly involved.
How did they get explosives?
How could factory workers even use dangerous explosives and high tech micro detonators?
Only military companies with arms export licenses
and all sorts of legislative controls could legally do that.
We're talking about 5,000 pagers alone -
and then an unknown number of walkie talkies.
Explosives are easily picked up at ports or airports so how could they have shipped them?
It's a massive operation.

Perhaps they weren't made in Europe. Just modified in Europe.

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Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Who made those pagers and walkie talkies?

Civilian companies can't have explosives -
it's all highly illegal - it's a huge crime.
Some company in Europe did it - we have yet to find out the culprit.
The company in Hungary was just a front.
I can't wait for the police to track it all down -
it's gone all quiet.

someone in Israel must have intercepted the order to Tailwan and then placed the order from a location in Hungary as a proxy. From there they modified the items and once finished sent them to Hezbollah.

But who made them in Europe?
Many people must have known and been highly involved.
How did they get explosives?
How could factory workers even use dangerous explosives and high tech micro detonators?
Only military companies with arms export licenses
and all sorts of legislative controls could legally do that.
We're talking about 5,000 pagers alone -
and then an unknown number of walkie talkies.
Explosives are easily picked up at ports or airports so how could they have shipped them?
It's a massive operation.

Perhaps the explosives were inside some extraneous capacitors added to the board.

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Reply #162 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:57pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:52pm:

Perhaps they weren't made in Europe. Just modified in Europe.

According to the company in Taiwan a European company had the license to build them in Europe.

Well then that's an elaborate setup but why would they then purchase them from some obscure company in Europe ??

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Reply #163 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:01pm

Setanta wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Who made those pagers and walkie talkies?

Civilian companies can't have explosives -
it's all highly illegal - it's a huge crime.
Some company in Europe did it - we have yet to find out the culprit.
The company in Hungary was just a front.
I can't wait for the police to track it all down -
it's gone all quiet.

someone in Israel must have intercepted the order to Tailwan and then placed the order from a location in Hungary as a proxy. From there they modified the items and once finished sent them to Hezbollah.

But who made them in Europe?
Many people must have known and been highly involved.
How did they get explosives?
How could factory workers even use dangerous explosives and high tech micro detonators?
Only military companies with arms export licenses
and all sorts of legislative controls could legally do that.
We're talking about 5,000 pagers alone -
and then an unknown number of walkie talkies.
Explosives are easily picked up at ports or airports so how could they have shipped them?
It's a massive operation.

Perhaps the explosives were inside some extraneous capacitors added to the board.

There would be no room for that.
It must have been a fake battery that was internally smaller than the original
and the extra room taken up with 3 grams of explosive and a micro detonator.
They would have used the battery data link for the code to set it off and
must have modified the firmware in the radio to do that.

Given that the original battery lasted for 85 days between charges -
if it still went for say 65 days then no one would notice the battery as a bit inferior.

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Reply #164 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:08pm

There will be a logistics trail that will lead to the perpetrators.

Logistic trails are difficult to hide.

There will also be a financial trail that will expose Mossad accounts in West-Asian Gulf states that allow Mossad to operate in their borders.

It appears at this time that Hungary is complicit in the acts of terrorism because one of the implicated entities was registered in Hungary and no announcement of arrests has been made by Hungary.

The Taiwan brand owner is also complicit because he engaged in business transactions he suspected were not legitimate.

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Reply #165 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:09pm

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/bulgaria-to-probe-company-linked-to...

Bulgaria to probe company linked to Hezbollah pagers that exploded in Lebanon

By Reuters and ToI Staff Today, 1:02 pm

Bulgaria will investigate a company linked to the sale of pagers to Lebanon’s terror group Hezbollah that exploded this week in a coordinated attack, the state security agency says.

Bulgaria’s state security agency, DANS, says in a statement that it is working with the interior ministry to probe the role of a company registered in Bulgaria, without naming it.

Bulgarian media reports allege that a Sofia-based company called Norta Global Ltd had facilitated the sale of the pagers, which exploded across Lebanon on Tuesday, killing at least 11 people and wounding 4,000.

The pagers had been distributed by Hezbollah to its members, and they exploded in a coordinated attack allegedly carried out by Israel.

Reuters was not immediately able to confirm the link to Norta. Company officials did not immediately respond to requests for comment. A lawyer that registered the company at an apartment block in Sofia did not respond to Reuters questions.

Images of destroyed pagers analyzed by Reuters showed a format consistent with pagers made by Taiwan Gold Apollo.

Gold Apollo said yesterday that the pagers were made by Budapest-based BAC Consulting, and the New York Times reported that BAC Consulting was in fact a front company set up by Israeli intelligence officers.

But Hungarian news site Telex reported that the sale was actually facilitated by Norta, citing sources.

The Bulgarian state security agency says that it did not detect any shipments of the suspected pagers on Bulgarian territory

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Reply #166 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:11pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:08pm:

There will be a logistics trail that will lead to the perpetrators.

Logistic trails are difficult to hide.

There will also be a financial trail that will expose Mossad accounts in West-Asian Gulf states that allow Mossad to operate in their borders.

It appears at this time that Hungary is complicit in the acts of terrorism because one of the implicated entities was registered in Hungary and no announcement of arrests has been made by Hungary.

The Taiwan brand owner is also complicit because he engaged in business transactions he suspected were not legitimate.

That plot thickens.

Gold Apollo said yesterday that the pagers were made by Budapest-based BAC Consulting,

and the New York Times reported that
BAC Consulting was in fact a front company set up by Israeli intelligence officers.

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Reply #168 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:15pm

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

Isreal needs to be carefull they do not set off a regional war....This was an indiscriminate terrorist attack that killed and injured civilians....Nobody should support this action which makes Isreal no better than those they condemn!!!

Smiley

The USA must be furious with Israel.
Every time Antony Blinken calls for a truce Israel assassinates a group of Hezbollah or Iranians
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Reply #169 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Who made those pagers and walkie talkies?

Civilian companies can't have explosives -
it's all highly illegal - it's a huge crime.
Some company in Europe did it - we have yet to find out the culprit.
The company in Hungary was just a front.
I can't wait for the police to track it all down -
it's gone all quiet.

someone in Israel must have intercepted the order to Tailwan and then placed the order from a location in Hungary as a proxy. From there they modified the items and once finished sent them to Hezbollah.

But who made them in Europe?
Many people must have known and been highly involved.
How did they get explosives?
How could factory workers even use dangerous explosives and high tech micro detonators?
Only military companies with arms export licenses
and all sorts of legislative controls could legally do that.
We're talking about 5,000 pagers alone -
and then an unknown number of walkie talkies.
Explosives are easily picked up at ports or airports so how could they have shipped them?
It's a massive operation.

Perhaps the explosives were inside some extraneous capacitors added to the board.

There would be no room for that.
It must have been a fake battery that was internally smaller than the original
and the extra room taken up with 3 grams of explosive and a micro detonator.
They would have used the battery data link for the code to set it off and
must have modified the firmware in the radio to do that.

Given that the original battery lasted for 85 days between charges -
if it still went for say 65 days then no one would notice the battery as a bit inferior.

One way would be that the special batteries loaded with explosives were substituted
at some point so that the factory workers never knew about it.
So - who made those batteries?
Were they made in Israel and sent to Europe?

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Reply #170 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:27pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

Thank you Israel for eliminating some of the worst terrorists in the world.

Yes, good job.

BEIRUT — As new reports of further devastation continued to filter in after yesterday's shocking incidents of exploding communication devices, Hezbollah leaders had begun to think they shouldn't have purchased large quantities of pagers from Levi Goldbraumstein's Pager Emporium.

The terrorist organization sustained devastating losses over the last two days, with multiple fatalities and thousands of members injured due to pagers and other electronic devices being rigged to explode. Hezbollah sources pointed the blame squarely at the devices bought from Levi Goldbraumstein's Pager Emporium.

"We probably should have seen this coming," said Hezbollah's Lead Purchasing Terrorist Adnan Musab Vaziri. "When I was given orders to procure a large quantity of pagers, I took it upon myself to find the best deal I could. In hindsight, the discount I was able to receive from Levi Goldbraumstein's Pager Emporium may not have been the best move."

Despite getting what was said to be a fantastic price on thousands of pagers, Hezbollah leaders agreed that this had been a valuable learning experience. "We'll be smarter about it next time," one high-ranking terrorist said. "We were all excited about getting a great deal on the pagers, but now, looking at my mangled and heavily bandaged leg, I can promise we'll be more willing to shop around. Also, probably no buying equipment from Jewish vendors anymore. That's a big one."

At publishing time, Hezbollah was said to be considering urging all its members to throw out all the Nintendo Gameboys they had gotten for a great price from Crazy Avi's Used Video Games.

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Reply #171 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:15pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

Isreal needs to be carefull they do not set off a regional war....This was an indiscriminate terrorist attack that killed and injured civilians....Nobody should support this action which makes Isreal no better than those they condemn!!!

Smiley

The USA must be furious with Israel.
Every time Antony Blinken calls for a truce Israel assassinates a group of Hezbollah or Iranians
and brings the whole powder keg to a new level.

Don't attack Israel - ie don't play with fire - and you won't get burnt.

As Dubya asked years ago, ' Is our jihadist learning, insh'allah?'

No, insh'allah.

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Reply #173 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:38pm

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:15pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

Isreal needs to be carefull they do not set off a regional war....This was an indiscriminate terrorist attack that killed and injured civilians....Nobody should support this action which makes Isreal no better than those they condemn!!!

Smiley

The USA must be furious with Israel.
Every time Antony Blinken calls for a truce Israel assassinates a group of Hezbollah or Iranians
and brings the whole powder keg to a new level.

Don't attack Israel - ie don't play with fire - and you won't get burnt.

As Dubya asked years ago, ' Is our jihadist learning, insh'allah?'

No, insh'allah.

But if 150,000 Hezbollah rockets rain down on Israel and
another 50,000 from Iran and more from Yemen then
who is going to have to fight to defend Israel?

Answer - the Americans when Israel says - please help us.

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Reply #175 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:41pm

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

Isreal needs to be carefull they do not set off a regional war....This was an indiscriminate terrorist attack that killed and injured civilians....Nobody should support this action which makes Isreal no better than those they condemn!!!

Smiley

It is a regional war you have Yemen Iran Hezbollah to name a few attacking Israel.
Hezbollah started firing rockets into Israel on Oct 8th the day after Hamas attacked Israel over 8000 rockets have been fired into Israel.

The Sunnis hate the Shia in Iran they fought a war against Yemen they don't like Hezbollah.

It was not an indiscriminate attack Hezbollah admitted they gave pagers to their members because mobile phones aren't secure they allow Israel to pinpoint their location.

Some of the videos show people standing next to terrorists when pagers detonated they were able to run away very few civilians injured or killed.

A more precise strike against terrorists than what Israel did to Hezbollah with their pagers is physically impossible. If you're fixating on the few civilian casualties, you're essentially saying that any attempt to fight terrorists is unacceptable to you, because a war with zero civilian casualties is unrealistic. This implies you prefer terrorists to survive.

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Reply #176 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:38pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:15pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

Isreal needs to be carefull they do not set off a regional war....This was an indiscriminate terrorist attack that killed and injured civilians....Nobody should support this action which makes Isreal no better than those they condemn!!!

Smiley

The USA must be furious with Israel.
Every time Antony Blinken calls for a truce Israel assassinates a group of Hezbollah or Iranians
and brings the whole powder keg to a new level.

Don't attack Israel - ie don't play with fire - and you won't get burnt.

As Dubya asked years ago, ' Is our jihadist learning, insh'allah?'

No, insh'allah.

But if 150,000 Hezbollah rockets rain down on Israel and
another 50,000 from Iran and more from Yemen then
who is going to have to fight to defend Israel?

Answer - the Americans when Israel says - please help us.

They have been shelling Israel for months, years.
The exploding pagers are a response to that.

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Reply #177 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:44pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:41pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

Isreal needs to be carefull they do not set off a regional war....This was an indiscriminate terrorist attack that killed and injured civilians....Nobody should support this action which makes Isreal no better than those they condemn!!!

Smiley

It is a regional war you have Yemen Iran Hezbollah to name a few attacking Israel.
Hezbollah started firing rockets into Israel on Oct 8th the day after Hamas attacked Israel over 8000 rockets have been fired into Israel.

The Sunnis hate the Shia in Iran they fought a war against Yemen they don't like Hezbollah.

It was not an indiscriminate attack Hezbollah admitted they gave pagers to their members because mobile phones aren't secure they allow Israel to pinpoint their location.

Some of the videos show people standing next to terrorists when pagers detonated they were able to run away very few civilians injured or killed.

A more precise strike against terrorists than what Israel did to Hezbollah with their pagers is physically impossible. If you're fixating on the few civilian casualties, you're essentially saying that any attempt to fight terrorists is unacceptable to you, because a war with zero civilian casualties is unrealistic. This implies you prefer terrorists to survive.

Spot on.
But you will be vilified for being sensible.

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Reply #178 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:47pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:01pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:50pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:41pm:

Who made those pagers and walkie talkies?

Civilian companies can't have explosives -
it's all highly illegal - it's a huge crime.
Some company in Europe did it - we have yet to find out the culprit.
The company in Hungary was just a front.
I can't wait for the police to track it all down -
it's gone all quiet.

someone in Israel must have intercepted the order to Tailwan and then placed the order from a location in Hungary as a proxy. From there they modified the items and once finished sent them to Hezbollah.

But who made them in Europe?
Many people must have known and been highly involved.
How did they get explosives?
How could factory workers even use dangerous explosives and high tech micro detonators?
Only military companies with arms export licenses
and all sorts of legislative controls could legally do that.
We're talking about 5,000 pagers alone -
and then an unknown number of walkie talkies.
Explosives are easily picked up at ports or airports so how could they have shipped them?
It's a massive operation.

Perhaps the explosives were inside some extraneous capacitors added to the board.

There would be no room for that.
It must have been a fake battery that was internally smaller than the original
and the extra room taken up with 3 grams of explosive and a micro detonator.
They would have used the battery data link for the code to set it off and
must have modified the firmware in the radio to do that.

Given that the original battery lasted for 85 days between charges -
if it still went for say 65 days then no one would notice the battery as a bit inferior.

One way would be that the special batteries loaded with explosives were substituted
at some point so that the factory workers never knew about it.
So - who made those batteries?
Were they made in Israel and sent to Europe?

It's likely Israel intercepted pagers before delivery and modified them.

Word is 20 grams of PETN was added along with another circuit.

It leaves Hezbollah in a situation where they don't trust their communication devices they're destroying other devices they are slightly paranoid.

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Reply #179 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:53pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:41pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

Isreal needs to be carefull they do not set off a regional war....This was an indiscriminate terrorist attack that killed and injured civilians....Nobody should support this action which makes Isreal no better than those they condemn!!!

Smiley

It is a regional war you have Yemen Iran Hezbollah to name a few attacking Israel.
Hezbollah started firing rockets into Israel on Oct 8th the day after Hamas attacked Israel over 8000 rockets have been fired into Israel.

The Sunnis hate the Shia in Iran they fought a war against Yemen they don't like Hezbollah.

It was not an indiscriminate attack Hezbollah admitted they gave pagers to their members because mobile phones aren't secure they allow Israel to pinpoint their location.

Some of the videos show people standing next to terrorists when pagers detonated they were able to run away very few civilians injured or killed.

A more precise strike against terrorists than what Israel did to Hezbollah with their pagers is physically impossible. If you're fixating on the few civilian casualties, you're essentially saying that any attempt to fight terrorists is unacceptable to you, because a war with zero civilian casualties is unrealistic. This implies you prefer terrorists to survive.

Unlike you I do not support terrorism or try to justify killing civilians....Do you accept suicide bombers are a legitimate use in war or are you selective in what terrorism you support???

Huh

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Reply #180 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:54pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:47pm:

It's likely Israel intercepted pagers before delivery and modified them.

Word is 20 grams of PETN was added along with another circuit.

It leaves Hezbollah in a situation where they don't trust their communication devices they're destroying other devices they are slightly paranoid.

I wonder if we'll ever know what happened?
Also is they must have used a special micro detonator - very small - and
there must have been a decode board as well to listen to the battery data line and
set off the micro detonator and charge.
It's very high tech - all sub miniature.

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Reply #181 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:55pm

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:38pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:15pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

Isreal needs to be carefull they do not set off a regional war....This was an indiscriminate terrorist attack that killed and injured civilians....Nobody should support this action which makes Isreal no better than those they condemn!!!

Smiley

The USA must be furious with Israel.
Every time Antony Blinken calls for a truce Israel assassinates a group of Hezbollah or Iranians
and brings the whole powder keg to a new level.

Don't attack Israel - ie don't play with fire - and you won't get burnt.

As Dubya asked years ago, ' Is our jihadist learning, insh'allah?'

No, insh'allah.

But if 150,000 Hezbollah rockets rain down on Israel and
another 50,000 from Iran and more from Yemen then
who is going to have to fight to defend Israel?

Answer - the Americans when Israel says - please help us.

They have been shelling Israel for months, years.
The exploding pagers are a response to that.

But still Antony Blinken must think that Israel is pushing the friendship.

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Israel.......is the epitome of Go F*ck Yourself,
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Aaaaaw, what a matter den ?

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Reply #184 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:01pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:55pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:38pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:15pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:12pm:

Isreal needs to be carefull they do not set off a regional war....This was an indiscriminate terrorist attack that killed and injured civilians....Nobody should support this action which makes Isreal no better than those they condemn!!!

Smiley

The USA must be furious with Israel.
Every time Antony Blinken calls for a truce Israel assassinates a group of Hezbollah or Iranians
and brings the whole powder keg to a new level.

Don't attack Israel - ie don't play with fire - and you won't get burnt.

As Dubya asked years ago, ' Is our jihadist learning, insh'allah?'

No, insh'allah.

But if 150,000 Hezbollah rockets rain down on Israel and
another 50,000 from Iran and more from Yemen then
who is going to have to fight to defend Israel?

Answer - the Americans when Israel says - please help us.

They have been shelling Israel for months, years.
The exploding pagers are a response to that.

But still Antony Blinken must think that Israel is pushing the friendship.

Blinken was born on April 16, 1962, in Yonkers, New York, to Jewish parents. His mother was Judith (née Frehm) Blinken and his father was Donald M. Blinken, a co-founder of the private equity firm Warburg Pincus who later served as the U.S. ambassador to Hungary.

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Reply #186 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:04pm

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:55pm:

But still Antony Blinken must think that Israel is pushing the friendship.

Blinken was born on April 16, 1962, in Yonkers, New York, to Jewish parents. His mother was Judith (née Frehm) Blinken and his father was Donald M. Blinken, a co-founder of the private equity firm Warburg Pincus who later served as the U.S. ambassador to Hungary.

But his job is to take down the temperature in the Middle East. Roll Eyes

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Reply #187 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:08pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:43am:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:34am:

Stop attacking Israel.

That's all it takes.

Its not that simple.

Well of course, the Israelis are going to resist their nations destruction.

In 1948, that task looked precarious.

In 2024, not so much.

precarious = =
1 likely to fall.
2 dependent on chance; uncertain.

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Isaiah 54:1
Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.
2 Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations: spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes;
3 For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited.
4 Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.
5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
6 For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.
7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.
8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.

Isaiah 54:15
Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.
16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

I do not know if Isaiah 54, is for this time.

But it sounds good !

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Reply #188 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:04pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:55pm:

But still Antony Blinken must think that Israel is pushing the friendship.

Blinken was born on April 16, 1962, in Yonkers, New York, to Jewish parents. His mother was Judith (née Frehm) Blinken and his father was Donald M. Blinken, a co-founder of the private equity firm Warburg Pincus who later served as the U.S. ambassador to Hungary.

But his job is to take down the temperature in the Middle East. Roll Eyes

Oh? I thought he was US Secretary of State.

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Reply #189 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:14pm

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:04pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 8:55pm:

But still Antony Blinken must think that Israel is pushing the friendship.

Blinken was born on April 16, 1962, in Yonkers, New York, to Jewish parents. His mother was Judith (née Frehm) Blinken and his father was Donald M. Blinken, a co-founder of the private equity firm Warburg Pincus who later served as the U.S. ambassador to Hungary.

But his job is to take down the temperature in the Middle East. Roll Eyes

Oh? I thought he was US Secretary of State.

He keeps calling for de-escalation. Roll Eyes

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Reply #190 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:32pm

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:14pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 2:01pm:

tallowood wrote on Sep 18^th, 2024 at 10:31am:

The pagers of Hezbollah supporters could have explosives installed. Apparently, they use these gadgets to exchange or receive encrypted messages. If the Israelis capture a militant or his device,
the pager will be detonated remotely, destroying the information. It is possible that the secret services managed to figure out how exactly this is done and send the necessary signal to subscribers.

Pagers and now other comm devices, what do they have in common and why the bangs were localized to Lebanon only?

I strongly doubt that.
Something as violent as an explosion is not necessary to wipe the memory from a device.

Hezbollah is not new to booby traps tactics, In April 2013, a jihadi forum member published a Lebanese
Hezbollah instructional video on how to make a booby-trap or anti-handling device. Arabs used these ideas to booby-trap Palestinian flags on border.

And all of the IED's Jihadis have set, at every opportunity.

'Improvised explosive device'

The Israelis, are targeting >> active << Hezbollah operatives.

Followers of ISLAM, have used remotely detonated bomb's on civilian trains and buses,
in cities, in the West.

Have targeted men. women and children, with machetes, on civilian streets, in the West.

They [the Jihadis] were targeting local civilians.

AS PER.....

Quote:

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004

"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents.

Only between Muslims and unbelievers.

And the life of an unbeliever has no value.

It has no sanctity."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&oneclick=true

this is an old link, but the article is kosher.

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AS PER.....

A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing.

Quote:

Inside the sect that loves terror
August 07, 2005

......In public interviews
Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.

Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent:

“Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar.”

n.b. 'kuffar' = = disbeliever

these are old links, but the article is kosher.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html
another source, "Undercover in the academy of hatred"...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458729/posts

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Reply #191 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:45pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:17pm:

Some of the worlds worst terrorists are dropping like flies with extremely low collateral damage and people are upset?

No surprise we have so many supporters of Islamic terror here.

Gordon,

Exactly as you point out !

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Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Genesis 6:5
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Q.
What is, evil, wrongdoing ?

James 4:17
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not,.......it is sin.

Everywhere in the world today.

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Reply #192 - Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:57pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:17pm:

Some of the worlds worst terrorists are dropping like flies with extremely low collateral damage and people are upset?

No surprise we have so many supporters of Islamic terror here.

Israel is showing that it's no better than the terrorists it faces -

they are all a bunch of bloodthirsty demonic entities.

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Reply #196 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 6:38am

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-820907

Nasrallah dares Israel to invade Lebanon in speech, calls it 'historic opportunity'

Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah called Israel's Northern Command leader "foolish"
and addressed the displaced Israelis in the North.

By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
SEPTEMBER 19, 2024 17:35
Updated: SEPTEMBER 19, 2024 23:15

Nasrallah also vowed to punish Israel for the attacks,
stating that the country would face “a crushing response from the axis of resistance.
Tuesday and Wednesday were bloody days,
but we will be able to overcome this ordeal, and this blow won’t bring us down,” he added.

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Reply #197 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 7:32am

Is this the end of Israel?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/19/iran-warns-israel-of-crushing-response-...

Iran warns Israel of ‘crushing response’ after attacks on Hezbollah

Iran’s Revolutionary Guard commander promises
‘destruction’ of Israel after communication device blasts.

19 Sep 2024

Israel will face “a crushing response from the axis of resistance”, the commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Hossein Salami, has told Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, according to state media.

Salami made the statement on Thursday after unprecedented attacks in the previous two days on Hezbollah pagers and walkie-talkies, which killed 37 people and wounded more than 2,900 when hundreds of devices were detonated almost simultaneously.

The “axis of resistance” refers to Iran-aligned armed groups in the Middle East, including Lebanon’s Hezbollah, Yemen’s Houthis and Iraq’s Popular Mobilisation Forces.

Lebanon and Hezbollah have blamed Israel for the attacks on Tuesday and Wednesday. Israel has not directly commented on the blasts, but security sources said they were probably carried out by its Mossad spy agency.

“Such terrorist acts are undoubtedly the result of the Zionist regime’s [Israel’s] despair and successive failures. This will soon be met with a crushing response from the axis of resistance, and we will witness the destruction of this bloodthirsty and criminal regime,” Salami said in his message to Nasrallah.

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Reply #198 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 8:47am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:17pm:

Some of the worlds worst terrorists are dropping like flies with extremely low collateral damage and people are upset?

No surprise we have so many supporters of Islamic terror here.

Israel is showing that it's no better than the terrorists it faces -

they are all a bunch of bloodthirsty demonic entities.

I agree Bobby....Once Isreal decided to use terror they justified the terror used against them....Apparently murdering civilians using terrorism is now acceptable collateral damage....Anyone who supports terrorism in any form deserves no sympathy and should be given no mercy when they face judgement!!!

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Reply #199 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 8:50am

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 8:47am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 10:57pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 3:17pm:

Some of the worlds worst terrorists are dropping like flies with extremely low collateral damage and people are upset?

No surprise we have so many supporters of Islamic terror here.

Israel is showing that it's no better than the terrorists it faces -

they are all a bunch of bloodthirsty demonic entities.

I agree Bobby....Once Isreal decided to use terror they justified the terror used against them....Apparently murdering civilians using terrorism is now acceptable collateral damage....Anyone who supports terrorism in any form deserves no sympathy and should be given no mercy when they fact judgement!!!

Roll Eyes

Yes and now Israel is waiting for the "crushing response"

When will Iran and all its proxies fire their most capable missiles at Israel?

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Reply #200 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 9:19am

I just feel sorry for Anthony Blinken. The guy tried so hard to calm tensions, to get people to the table for a cease fire. It seemed Israel really had no plans for a cease fire at all. Its defence minister is very confident that Israel is ready for the next phase of the war, that is attack on Lebanon.

This will surely drag US into it as well, and of course, Australia.

My friends... we are witnessing the start of another never ending war, and the AUKUs money is all but wasted.

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Reply #201 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 9:43am

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 9:19am:

I just feel sorry for Anthony Blinken. The guy tried so hard to calm tensions, to get people to the table for a cease fire. It seemed Israel really had no plans for a cease fire at all. Its defence minister is very confident that Israel is ready for the next phase of the war, that is attack on Lebanon.

This will surely drag US into it as well, and of course, Australia.

My friends... we are witnessing the start of another never ending war, and the AUKUs money is all but wasted.

Blinken was directly complicit in mass murder and genocide. Blinken was associated with the decisions to send 2000-pound bombs and other WMD to Israel to bomb civilians.

Blinken is the epitome of US global diplomatic failures that have caused and intensified wars and death.

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Reply #202 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 9:52am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 9:43am:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 9:19am:

I just feel sorry for Anthony Blinken. The guy tried so hard to calm tensions, to get people to the table for a cease fire. It seemed Israel really had no plans for a cease fire at all. Its defence minister is very confident that Israel is ready for the next phase of the war, that is attack on Lebanon.

This will surely drag US into it as well, and of course, Australia.

My friends... we are witnessing the start of another never ending war, and the AUKUs money is all but wasted.

Blinken was directly complicit in mass murder and genocide. Blinken was associated with the decisions to send 2000-pound bombs and other WMD to Israel to bomb civilians.

Blinken is the epitome of US global diplomatic failures that have caused and intensified wars and death.

Well, at least he tried to withhold the 2000 pound bombs. If its a repulican, then they probably would have sent tactical nuclear war heads.

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Reply #205 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 11:30am

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 9:19am:

I just feel sorry for Anthony Blinken. The guy tried so hard to calm tensions, to get people to the table for a cease fire. It seemed Israel really had no plans for a cease fire at all. Its defence minister is very confident that Israel is ready for the next phase of the war, that is attack on Lebanon.

This will surely drag US into it as well, and of course, Australia.

My friends... we are witnessing the start of another never ending war, and the AUKUs money is all but wasted.

Blinking Ant works in interest of Dems not Israel or US.
Dems don't want any disturbances so close to presidential election.

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Reply #206 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 2:44pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 11:29am:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 9:52am:

Well, at least he tried to withhold the 2000 pound bombs.

No he didn't. What he says and what he does are often disparate.

Blinken is the Secretary of State who helped deliver 14,000 MK-84 2,000 pound bombs
to drop on women and children in Gaza.
He did what Biden and Harris asked him to do.
They all have blood on their hands.

here:
https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-808212

Between the war's start last October and recent days, the United States has transferred at least 14,000 of the MK-84 2,000-pound bombs, 6,500 500-pound bombs, 3,000 Hellfire precision-guided air-to-ground missiles, 1,000 bunker-buster bombs, 2,600 air-dropped small-diameter bombs, and other munitions, according to the officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly.

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Reply #207 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 5:29pm

Israel has finally had enough and has decided this must end once and for all. If it was your family you'd be doing the same, so stop lying to yourselves and preening about your moral high ground.

There can never be any peace agreement which leaves Ham Ass and Hezbollards in position to continue to strike at Israel.

Anyway - I said this was the flashpoint - fortunately to date the US etc have accepted that a lot of the big talk is just that - big talk from the hostile Arabs and Persians... as long as they carry on and jump up and down and smoke comes out of their ears over what they're going to do - with no results - all is good.

Like our politicians - they think they are winning if they talk tough in front of the cameras and microphones.

DUH.

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John Smith wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 5:36pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 5:29pm:

Israel has finally had enough and has decided this must end once and for all.

thats what the nazis said too

Ah yes - the old Ad Nazism again, eh, Laszlo? Difference was that Germany wasn't being attacked every damned day and nobody stormed across the border and killed 1200 Germans, beheading babies and burning them in ovens and raping and killing men and women and even total innocent visitors.

Missed by THAT much... just like that Trump shooter. You need to upgrade your material.... I hear The Deuce is available as a writer etc... got time on his hands...

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https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/09/exploding-pagers-and-radios-terr...

Exploding pagers and radios: A terrifying violation of international law, say UN experts

19 September 2024

GENEVA (19 September 2024) – UN human rights experts* today condemned the malicious manipulation of thousands of electronic pagers and radios to explode simultaneously across Lebanon and Syria as “terrifying” violations of international law.

The attacks reportedly killed at least 32 people and maimed or injured 3,250, including 200 critically. Among the dead are a boy and a girl, as well as medical personnel. Around 500 people suffered severe eye injuries, including a diplomat. Others suffered grave injuries to their faces, hands and bodies.

“These attacks violate the human right to life, absent any indication that the victims posed an imminent lethal threat to anyone else at the time,” the experts said. “Such attacks require prompt, independent investigation to establish the truth and enable accountability for the crime of murder.

“We express our deepest solidarity to the victims of these attacks,” they said.

The pagers and radios were reportedly distributed mainly among people allegedly associated with the Hezbollah movement, which includes civilian and military personnel and is involved in an armed conflict with Israel along the border.

“To the extent that international humanitarian law applies, at the time of the attacks there was no way of knowing who possessed each device and who was nearby,” the experts said. “Simultaneous attacks by thousands of devices would inevitably violate humanitarian law, by failing to verify each target, and distinguish between protected civilians and those who could potentially be attacked for taking a direct part in hostilities.

“Such attacks could constitute war crimes of
murder, attacking civilians, and launching indiscriminate attacks,
in addition to violating the right to life,” the experts said.

Humanitarian law additionally prohibits the use of booby-traps disguised as apparently harmless portable objects where specifically designed and constructed with explosives – and this could include a modified civilian pager, the experts said. A booby-trap is a device designed to kill or injure, that functions unexpectedly when a person performs an apparently safe act, such as answering a pager.

“It is also a

war crime

to commit violence intended to spread terror among civilians, including to intimidate or deter them from supporting an adversary,” the experts warned. “A climate of fear now pervades everyday life in Lebanon,” they said.

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I’m reading but confused my position so consider my post -

It’s bloody horrible and if it’s true the bombs were planted in 2022 just disturbing.

Jeeze, I just brought a Chinese car!

How do I know who or what is safe anymore?

The killing has to stop.

Biden is useless, I really hope Trump can win and stop the bloodshed.

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Do anonymous UN human rights experts break law masturbating in public?

Tallowood is a pervert who fantasizes that everyone and anyone masturbates in Tallowood's presence to trigger Tallowood's courage.

Tallowood should clean himself, zip up, and p1ss off back to his death cult ilk in Bvr's garage.

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Daves2017 wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 9:05pm:

I’m reading but confused my position so consider my post -

It’s bloody horrible and if it’s true the bombs were planted in 2022 just disturbing.

Jeeze, I just brought a Chinese car!

How do I know who or what is safe anymore?

The killing has to stop.

Biden is useless, I really hope Trump can win and stop the bloodshed.

You're lucky Israeli Jews don't make cars.

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Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 10:11pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 9:05pm:

I’m reading but confused my position so consider my post -

It’s bloody horrible and if it’s true the bombs were planted in 2022 just disturbing.

Jeeze, I just brought a Chinese car!

How do I know who or what is safe anymore?

The killing has to stop.

Biden is useless, I really hope Trump can win and stop the bloodshed.

You're lucky Israeli Jews don't make cars.

It was another war crime by Bibi - Reply #211 -
it's a long list now.

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Reply #217 - Sep 20^th, 2024 at 10:57pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 10:11pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 9:05pm:

I’m reading but confused my position so consider my post -

It’s bloody horrible and if it’s true the bombs were planted in 2022 just disturbing.

Jeeze, I just brought a Chinese car!

How do I know who or what is safe anymore?

The killing has to stop.

Biden is useless, I really hope Trump can win and stop the bloodshed.

You're lucky Israeli Jews don't make cars.

You're lucky Israelis watch over the insane....

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The Yanks are already there - ready for the war.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-warplanes-ships-troops-ready-middle-east-...

WASHINGTON -- The U.S. has kept an increased military presence in the Middle East throughout much of the past year, with about

40,000 forces, at least a dozen warships and four Air Force fighter jet squadrons

spread across the region both to protect allies and to serve as a deterrent against attacks, several U.S. officials said.

As attacks between Israel and Hezbollah sharply spiked this week, worries are growing that the conflict could escalate into an all-out war, even as Tel Aviv keeps up its nearly yearlong fight against Hamas militants in Gaza.

Hezbollah says Israel crossed a “red line” with explosive attacks on its communications devices and vowed to keep up the missile strikes it’s launched since fellow Iranian-backed militant group Hamas attacked Israel on Oct. 7, setting off the war in Gaza.

Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant — who has spoken repeatedly this week to U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin — has declared the start of a “new phase” of the war, shifting its focus to the northern front against Hezbollah in Lebanon.

So far, the U.S. hasn't signaled a troop increase or change as a result of the latest attacks, and there is already a beefed-up force in the region.

“We’re confident in the ability that we have there right now to protect our forces and should we need to come to the defense of Israel as well," Pentagon spokeswoman Sabrina Singh said Thursday.

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Laugh till you cry wrote on Sep 21^st, 2024 at 12:29am:

Hungary was complicit in the exploding pager terrorism.

The Taiwanese guy was also complicit.

The US was complicit by its knowledge. The US would have monitored all transactions and supplies logistics for Hezbollah.

How - not even Hungary has any records of the shipments.

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Reply #221 - Oct 11^th, 2024 at 4:30am

Gordon wrote on Sep 19^th, 2024 at 7:45pm:

Thank you Israel for eliminating some of the worst terrorists in the world.

Another thank you to Israel:

Yazidi girl Fawzia Amin Sido, taken as ISIS slave at age 11 — and then held by Hamas for 10 years — is rescued by Israeli troops in Gaza
https://nypost.com/2024/10/03/world-news/child-hostage-held-by-hamas-for-10-year...

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Reply #222 - Oct 11^th, 2024 at 5:57am

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Difference was that Germany wasn't being attacked every damned day and nobody stormed across the border and killed 1200 Germans, beheading babies and burning them in ovens and raping and killing men and women and even total innocent visitors.

Missed by THAT much... just like that Trump shooter. You need to upgrade your material.... I hear The Deuce is available as a writer etc... got time on his hands...

You have it the wrong way around. It was Israel who had killed over 6000 Palestinians non combatants in the decades prior to Oct 7 ... and that's just the ones that were CONFIRMED non combatants by two independent sources. The real number is most likely double that

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Reply #223 - Oct 11^th, 2024 at 6:26am

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 5:57am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 5:39pm:

Difference was that Germany wasn't being attacked every damned day and nobody stormed across the border and killed 1200 Germans, beheading babies and burning them in ovens and raping and killing men and women and even total innocent visitors.

Missed by THAT much... just like that Trump shooter. You need to upgrade your material.... I hear The Deuce is available as a writer etc... got time on his hands...

You have it the wrong way around. It was Israel who had killed over 6000 Palestinians non combatants in the decades prior to Oct 7 ... and that's just the ones that were CONFIRMED non combatants by two independent sources. The real number is most likely double that

You mean 6000 jihadi martyrs for Alllah.

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Reply #224 - Oct 11^th, 2024 at 7:23am

Frank wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 6:26am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 5:57am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 5:39pm:

Difference was that Germany wasn't being attacked every damned day and nobody stormed across the border and killed 1200 Germans, beheading babies and burning them in ovens and raping and killing men and women and even total innocent visitors.

Missed by THAT much... just like that Trump shooter. You need to upgrade your material.... I hear The Deuce is available as a writer etc... got time on his hands...

You have it the wrong way around. It was Israel who had killed over 6000 Palestinians non combatants in the decades prior to Oct 7 ... and that's just the ones that were CONFIRMED non combatants by two independent sources. The real number is most likely double that

You mean 6000 jihadi martyrs for Alllah.

keep pretending sorend, it's all you've got left Cheesy

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Reply #225 - Oct 11^th, 2024 at 7:42am

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 7:23am:

Frank wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 6:26am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 5:57am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 20^th, 2024 at 5:39pm:

Difference was that Germany wasn't being attacked every damned day and nobody stormed across the border and killed 1200 Germans, beheading babies and burning them in ovens and raping and killing men and women and even total innocent visitors.

Missed by THAT much... just like that Trump shooter. You need to upgrade your material.... I hear The Deuce is available as a writer etc... got time on his hands...

You have it the wrong way around. It was Israel who had killed over 6000 Palestinians non combatants in the decades prior to Oct 7 ... and that's just the ones that were CONFIRMED non combatants by two independent sources. The real number is most likely double that

You mean 6000 jihadi martyrs for Alllah.

keep pretending sorend, it's all you've got left Cheesy

Sorry John Smith,

You, are 1/ mistaken, .....and 2/ willfully blind.

ISLAM - IS THE CULT WHICH ENCOURAGES,
AND WORSHIPS....DEATH

AND WHICH MAKES THE MURDER OF DISBELIEVERS
>> 'LAWFUL' <<

"We love death."

Don't believe me ?.......

Quote:

"We love death.
The US loves life.
That is the difference between us two."

- Osama bin Laden, November 2001

Quote:

"The Jews love life, .....they love life and we love death."

Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

Quote:

".....On the one hand, Israeli culture values life in all its aspects, including the sanctity of the life of others. Their soldiers take risks to spare civilians on the other side, unprecedented in the history of warfare. Aware of Israeli inhibitions, Jihadi groups use their own people as human shields in fighting the Israelis.
Over the last few years, these Jihadi groups have developed a full-blown death cult in which they raise their children to want to die killing others."

Quote:

"We have discovered how to hit the Jews where they are the most vulnerable. The Jews love life, so that is what we shall take away from them. We are going to win, because they love life and we love death."

Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

Quote:

"Our blood is cheap compared with the cause which has brought us together and which at moments separated us, but shortly we will meet again in heaven…"

Yasser Arafat (Maariv, Oct. 4, 1996)

Quote:

"Why do other people love life, while we love death and violence, slaughter and suicide, and [even] call it heroism and martyrdom?"

Tunisian intellectual Al-Afif Al-Akhdar

Those "...we love death" quotes, above, were sourced here...
http://www.theaugeanstables.com/2006/08/02/501/

WWW search....

jihad - "we love death"

WWW search....

muslims "we love death"

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Yadda said.....
The culture that idolizes murder, and loves death
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1550834051/0#0
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Quote:

"The Koran is our constitution"

"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"

"Jihad is our path"

"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"

- Mild mannered - Mohammed Morsi - one time Ex-President of Egypt

QUESTION;
Are any political leaders, of Western nations listening,
to what ISLAM and its followers are SAYING,
and how the followers of ISLAM speak, among themselves ?

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LETTING THE MOSLEM SPEAK - ABOUT HIS OWN BELIEFS [and his own motives]
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http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1582638136/0#0
MORE....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1582638136/1#1

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Reply #227 - Oct 11^th, 2024 at 8:15am

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 7:57am:

Yadda wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 7:42am:

Sorry John Smith,

You, are 1/ mistaken,

No.... unlike you,
I don't rely on a book written thousands of years ago
for my current affairs Cheesy

.......and yet, in Reply #225,
i was quoting followers of ISLAM,
speaking in the 21st century.

IMAGE.......
ISLAM on the streets of London-2006.......

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John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 7:57am:

Yadda wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 7:42am:

Sorry John Smith,

You, are 1/ mistaken,

No.... unlike you,
I don't rely on a book written thousands of years ago
for my current affairs Cheesy

.......and yet, in Reply #225,
i was quoting followers of ISLAM,
speaking in the 21st century.

IMAGE.....

ISLAM on the streets of London-2006

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IMAGE.....

On the streets of Sydney
from Hyde Park to George Streets,
September 15, 2012.

Look at her, ....look at the mother !!!

She is taking a photo for here family album,
of HER child, holding that image.

She is so, so proud.

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And here, is another image, in Australia......

"Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar
outside Parramatta police headquarters"

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/5#5
and here....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1570367530/0#0

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This is the solution which i favour, and i outline the reasons why i do.....

QUARANTINE WORKS!!

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/34#34

and....

The argument for administrative detention, for all 'Aussie' followers of ISLAM

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0

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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1409991405/8#8
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Promoting and encouraging violent and unlawful acts is illegal.

We live in a country in which the people supposedly respect the rule of law.

Without widespread respect for the law of the land, we [our Australian society] would descend into being like Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Somalia, etc, etc - which is exactly what moslems are trying to achieve.

Moslems want to destroy the efficacy of all [non-ISLAMIC] civic institutions in Australia, which help to maintain a peaceful and functioning society.

SUGGESTION;
If you live in Australia and you don't like what ISLAM promotes then you should contact your federal parliamentary representative - EXPLAIN TO HIM/HER WHY YOU DO NOT LIKE ISLAM AND MOSLEMS - and encourage your federal parliamentary representative to try to get ISLAM lawfully declared a proscribed [banned] group in Australia.

Act within the law.

Otherwise we are no better than moslems.

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Reply #230 - Oct 11^th, 2024 at 9:54am

I think Yadda had being deceived. Religion at the end of the day, are created by men, used by men to control others. Killings are conducted by men against each other. If you peel back all the conflict of humanity in the past few thousand years, it is consistently about land, money and power. Pure and simple. Religion is just an excuse, so that, a person can be made to hate another whom they have never met.

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tickleandrose wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 9:54am:

I think Yadda had being deceived. Religion at the end of the day, are created by men, used by men to control others. Killings are conducted by men against each other. If you peel back all the conflict of humanity in the past few thousand years, it is consistently about land, money and power. Pure and simple. Religion is just an excuse, so that, a person can be made to hate another whom they have never met.

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Reply #232 - Oct 11^th, 2024 at 11:24am

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 9:33am:

Yadda wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 8:56am:

.......and yet, in Reply #225,
i was quoting followers of ISLAM,
speaking in the 21st century.

selectively quoting someone and pretending it applies to ALL followers of Islam is something only the terminally cretinous would do . Congrats, you qualify.

Hence the need for the Dork community out there to understand the vast difference between Islamic and Islamist.... been telling yez for years - but you still have no idea.

Won't listen the counts. ..... (should they be punished for not listening, Mayo style - listen AND OBEY OUR DEMANDS OR ELSE!?) ...

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Reply #233 - Oct 11^th, 2024 at 12:07pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 7:57am:

Yadda wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 7:42am:

Sorry John Smith,

You, are 1/ mistaken,

No.... unlike you, I don't rely on a book written thousands of years ago for my current affairs Cheesy

Now there's the whole problem in a nutshell. It's not what you rely on but what the mussos rely on - and believe in - and that is the Qur'an which is as alive to them today as it was when written in the 7th century. What Mohammed said in the Qur'an and Hadiths is sacrosanct to all muslims because to them Mohammed was the perfect man who all mussos aspire to emulate.

And that is what is going to divide Australia. Once you bring these 7th century beliefs here and try to impose them on the largely secular population.

Muslims believe they will either outbreed, convert or kill and ultimately outnumber us in their quest to achieve their goal of a global and final caliphate - whether it takes 50, 500 or 5000 years. And they are totally committed to that goal.

It's ignorant and arrogant opinions like yours that will enable them.

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Reply #234 - Oct 11^th, 2024 at 12:19pm

Aquarius wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 12:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 7:57am:

Yadda wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 7:42am:

Sorry John Smith,

You, are 1/ mistaken,

No.... unlike you, I don't rely on a book written thousands of years ago for my current affairs Cheesy

Now there's the whole problem in a nutshell. It's not what you rely on but what the mussos rely on - and believe in - and that is the Qur'an which is as alive to them today as it was when written in the 7th century. What Mohammed said in the Qur'an and Hadiths is sacrosanct to all muslims because to them Mohammed was the perfect man who all mussos aspire to emulate.

And that is what is going to divide Australia. Once you bring these 7th century beliefs here and try to impose them on the largely secular population.

Muslims believe they will either outbreed, convert or kill and ultimately outnumber us in their quest to achieve their goal of a global and final caliphate - whether it takes 50, 500 or 5000 years. And they are totally committed to that goal.

It's ignorant and arrogant opinions like yours that will enable them.

Well... if you put it that way.... We - Christians came to Australia. Bringing our 0 century belief here, and try to impose them on the largely secular population of aborigines. We succeeded in destroying their language, taking over their land, out breed them, and ultimately outnumbered them in our quest to achieve our goal of British Imperial dominance, that only really took a few years to complete.

So, are 'WE' the evil Mussos of the past? Grin

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Lol. Nope, "we" are their saviours. From a miserable Stone Age existence.

Better the Brits than someone else. Or there might not be any aboriginals left!

Their societies may have problems and challenges. But its how they have lived. Who are we to tell them its a miserable stone age existence. And lets not pretend. We are here... for the land and resources, and not some holy mission of lifting the native people out of stone age existence. Cheesy

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tickleandrose wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 12:59pm:

Aquarius wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 12:46pm:

Lol. Nope, "we" are their saviours. From a miserable Stone Age existence.

Better the Brits than someone else. Or there might not be any aboriginals left!

Their societies may have problems and challenges. But its how they have lived. Who are we to tell them its a miserable stone age existence. And lets not pretend. We are here... for the land and resources, and not some holy mission of lifting the native people out of stone age existence. Cheesy

Lol. Then you might need to leave! There wouldn't be a single Abo who would want to go back to a Stone Age existence. In fact it was the young male Aboriginals who left the tribes to live and work with the whities that caused the tribal life they lived to collapse. Whitey gave them another way to escape the rigid structure of aboriginal life and the dominance of the old men who ruled with an iron fist and the Bone. The young men had to hand over the best of their catch, they couldn't marry whilst the old men got all the young girls. There was a lot of dissatisfaction with tribal life and the young men saw a different way. They took to horse riding with great skill and made great stockmen. And they definitely preferred whitey's food (and drink). It was all documented by those who lived at that time and I read some really fascinating books that were written about this subject.

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John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 12:43pm:

Aquarius wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 12:07pm:

Now there's the whole problem in a nutshell. It's not what you rely on but what the mussos rely on -

so my opinion on a current affairs should be formed based on what others rely on?

Grin

not real good at this?

Comprehension not your best subject?

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Reply #242 - Oct 11^th, 2024 at 1:31pm

Aquarius wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 1:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 12:43pm:

Aquarius wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 12:07pm:

Now there's the whole problem in a nutshell. It's not what you rely on but what the mussos rely on -

so my opinion on a current affairs should be formed based on what others rely on?

Grin

not real good at this?

Comprehension not your best subject?

My comment to yadda was that I base my opinions on facts, not a thousand yr old book ... you jumped in and said that was my mistake and I should base my opinions on what someone else relies on

what part did I get wrong Cheesy

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Aquarius wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 1:22pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 12:59pm:

Aquarius wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 12:46pm:

Lol. Nope, "we" are their saviours. From a miserable Stone Age existence.

Better the Brits than someone else. Or there might not be any aboriginals left!

Their societies may have problems and challenges. But its how they have lived. Who are we to tell them its a miserable stone age existence. And lets not pretend. We are here... for the land and resources, and not some holy mission of lifting the native people out of stone age existence. Cheesy

Lol. Then you might need to leave! There wouldn't be a single Abo who would want to go back to a Stone Age existence. In fact it was the young male Aboriginals who left the tribes to live and work with the whities that caused the tribal life they lived to collapse. Whitey gave them another way to escape the rigid structure of aboriginal life and the dominance of the old men who ruled with an iron fist and the Bone. The young men had to hand over the best of their catch, they couldn't marry whilst the old men got all the young girls. There was a lot of dissatisfaction with tribal life and the young men saw a different way. They took to horse riding with great skill and made great stockmen. And they definitely preferred whitey's food (and drink). It was all documented by those who lived at that time and I read some really fascinating books that were written about this subject.

When we first arrived in Australia. The aborigines were viewed as less than human. They were not given the same opportunity as the others. They were prevented from owning any land, they had restricted access to education, health care, and employment opportunities. In places like Tasmania, they were hunted to extinction like Tasmania tigers. They were also subjugated,, forced off their lands, and often displaced from one end of the state to another. Their lives are only very recently, starting to improve just after the 1967 referendum, that they are actually considered human beings living in Australia.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74508 Gender:	Re: Hezbollah EXPLODING pager attack in Lebanon Reply #244 - Oct 11^th, 2024 at 1:34pm Aquarius wrote on Oct 11^th, 2024 at 1:24pm: Seems you can't see the difference between a democracy and a theocracy. aborgines weren't allowed to vote until 1964 and then not given the same rights/obligations as other voters until 1985 .... where was their democracy?
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