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Question: 2025 Election predictions

Labor returns with majority Gov    
  3 (13.0%)
Labor forms minority Gov    
  7 (30.4%)
Shock horror! LNP majority Gov    
  9 (39.1%)
LNP forms minority Gov    
  4 (17.4%)




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Sep 28th, 2024 at 9:47am
 
They usually say: "The polls always tighten closer to the actual election" ... what happens when the polls are already 50-50 6 months out?  Grin
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Reply #1 - Sep 28th, 2024 at 10:46am
 
I predict the election will be in March, weekend the 22,23rd.
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Reply #2 - Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:35am
 
Daves2017 wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 10:46am:
I predict the election will be in March, weekend the 22,23rd.


Could be. Labor might want to avoid doing another Budget.
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Reply #3 - Sep 28th, 2024 at 11:47am
 
Parties 1 & 2 - People 0.

I predict a whitewash of Labor - but jeez - with that Opposition? 

A rush of Indepedendents, sadly people still want to believe in the Madonna complex, which is why they imagine voting in TEALs will generate a more loving home of Australia... you can't vote in more vapid middle 'class' sheilas and actually expect them to know WTF they are doing.... other than enjoying the sweet life doing nothing and crying about how hard it is ... perfect JOB for a sheila - except these aren't jobs or careers - they are duties to the people... do the job or get out!

It will take a few evolutions for the people to work out that it's past time to ditch all the parties , and actually work out what is and what is not important and even real.  Nonsense like 'the voice' and 'wage gap' are not remotely real.... all this gonad cutting is not real.... all these 'commissions' filled up with old mates and used to circumvent the law and courts and act as Star chambers need to go .... get rid of the governor-general after that last debacle of yet another old mate copping a sweet ride for life ... enough of this government handing out these lovely 'posts' like some f
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cking Feudal Lords Dominant Over All  (I will give you a thousand acres!!  Best way is to cut out these 'jobs' without any worth).. I guess we'll just have to become a Republic... can still be part of the BritCom ... Chuckie can still be King Without Power and a friendly visiting monarch we all adore...
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Reply #4 - Sep 28th, 2024 at 12:05pm
 
At State level, due to the backblast from the Voice By Stealth, which has not gone unnoticed despite the relative media silence over it - most people commenting on anything related to it are boiling mad and lusting for vengeance over a government that went directly against their wishes - Labor will suffer like they did in the NT - again, jeez - look at the Opposition...  FFS.. what have we got that's any good for this country?

In NSW I don't even know who the Opposition leader is.... I heard someone say it was another Dago named Fuktifino or something... Jesus, them Dagoes know where the easy money is.

Country's in dire straits - divided against itself as never before - all the good will that went to the Cheers following Ruddski's groveling apology has vanished now given their hostility and endless demands without merit - and Albo's voice farce put an end to it.  Slowly but surely people are waking up and are standing their ground...  they said NO once - they'll do it again, and again, and they will not be silenced this time by abuse or violence or threats.
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Reply #5 - Sep 28th, 2024 at 12:08pm
 
Can't vote on that poll - might disturb the spirits or something and bring on disaster for the people - again.

**day dreams**  Ah yes - just like the Good Old Days of the Weimar Republic.... the 'Left' are hopeless liars; the 'Soft Right' are hopeless liars; the rest of the Leftists and Rightists are useless empty seats.... unable to form a government perhaps the politicians could just decide to hand over dictatorship to a Neo-Hitler type of either Left or Right, and rely on the democratic process to control him (it won't be a 'her' - women in power are not considered 'strong') ... and then the fun will begin.  Many good things might eventuate - the Sydney to Brisbane Autobahn might be finished etc... people will be ordered into homes and jobs...... a schtrong military will be built up ....national resources and virtues will become paramount ... and the Gauleiters currently controlling the various departments will behave according to the FuhrerPrinzip, take orders from the top ONLY!!... and they will only occdasionally actually meet with der Fuhrer and get some guidelines - otherwise they will just rampage across the land at their whim, fully trusted by Das Reich.  The Ministry of Abo Affairs (MAA, MAA) will apportion out the land to its pets and will enforce removal of Der Chews occupying it now, resume their property .... The Ministry of Justice will ensure that justice is the sole prerogative of the State at its whim ... The Ministry for Fair Pay will ensure that some are paid more per hour to make up for the hours they don't work (sort of an old mate sheila governor-general gig, where they make up this terrible wage gap of her never having served and getting service super by giving her a calculated equivalent - now that's 'The Wage Gap' for you, right there and written loud - sheilas being paid more for actually doing less!) ....

The position we find ourselves in here today, with these useless and ineffectual parties wrecking everything, is so similar it just isn't funny, even down to the concept that the New Chews are Invaders and must be moved off Volks land and Der Vrei Volk must have precedence in everything........ none so blind as you lot with your buckets of bleach ...  on the count of three - duck heads again...

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Reply #6 - Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:19pm
 
The teals will be interesting to watch.

They are going full tilt in Duddos  electorate and I predict on the back of their vote Duddo will retain his seat.

Labor would be upset! They could easily upset the Lnp and take the seat otherwise.

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Reply #7 - Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:42pm
 

Albo will get his arse kicked and even lose his own seat.
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Reply #8 - Sep 29th, 2024 at 12:37am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 4:42pm:
Albo will get his arse kicked and even lose his own seat.


We need more people to stand as True Independents.... not allied or associated with any party.... and prepared to put their full platform up for scrutiny....

When elected - my government will:-

.Immediately ban all 'gender transition' treatments for minors apart from psychiatric care.
.Re-open all National Parks and Public Lands to all equally - National Parks are in use as National Parks on a permanent basis, and Public Land is Public Land - not something to be handed to a private group without full and proper process as pertains to all equally.
.Drain the swamps of public service organisations and 'commissions' and make them lean and mean and keen, with special focus on those that support division by advocating for only one or a few groups, and not all equally.
.Abandon and revoke all 'treaties' signed with our own citizens, and resume all lands given unreasonably, reverting their holding instead into blocks of land for each family to live on or sell if they wish, determined on merit alone.
.Legally preclude the states from playing with 'treaties'.
.Will institute a 'reverse boat people policy', wherein malefactors of all kinds who show no sign of changing their ways will be placed on 'boat people' boats and transported back to the country of the 'people smuggler'.
.Will offer onshore processing of refugees, a fair opportunity to learn a useful skill while being processed, and then settlement here for those validated.
.Will develop a reasonable and reasoned immigration program, and will take a firm stand on excluding those who will not fit in without trouble.
.Will develop a program to deport those born here who persist in adhering to the wrongful kinds of 'traditions' of their 'old country' to the detriment of this country.
.Will develop a Provisional Citizenship system, wherein a person must show assimilation, working towards self-sufficiency, and respect for the law of this land and of those in it, or have citizenship revoked.
.Will formulate policy that those who state they are not citizens of this country and bound by the same rules as everyone else, will have their citizenship canceled, will be obliged to apply for visas on merit, and will receive no benefits of citizenship.

Just a one page simple request.... you understand..... a statement from the heart ..... simple really.... we haven't got to the re-education camps yet.... round up The Usual Suspects.... clean out the tent cities of Gaza Luvvahs etc and send 'em for an indeterminate period of re-education... when their minds are right they get out.... on parole...
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Reply #9 - Oct 9th, 2024 at 8:54am
 
So, we are approaching the "killing season" in Federal politics ... will someone in the Labor Cabinet make a move on Albo?   Wink
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Reply #10 - Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:11am
 
Will US elections results influence Australian elections and if so which way?
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Reply #11 - Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:27am
 
tallowood wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:11am:
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Zero impact. it never does unless by coincidental cycle alignment.
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Reply #12 - Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:30am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 8:54am:
So, we are approaching the "killing season" in Federal politics ... will someone in the Labor Cabinet make a move on Albo?   Wink


I suspect not but have not been following closely. I would say a slightly lower probability than someone peeling the potato. If the Liberals only had a person fit to lead potato head would be chips.
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Reply #13 - Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:22pm
 
She had the potential to damage Labor at the next election, maybe there will be some impact but this choice of name for her political party is very poor.

People will associate her with the disastrous "Voice to parliament" messGrin

Fatima Payman launches new political party named ‘Australia’s Voice’

ByJosefine Ganko

Independent senator Fatima Payman is holding a press conference in Canberra to formally announce her new political party, named “Australia’s Voice”.

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The former Labor senator is speaking in Canberra.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

Here’s an extract from her announcement:

We can no longer sit by while our voices are drowned out by the same old politics. It’s time to stand up, to rise together and to take control of our future.

And so it is with great humility and deep responsibility that I announce the formation of Australia’s Voice, a new political party for the disenfranchised, the unheard, and those yearning for real change.

Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what needs to be done, we will do it.”
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Reply #14 - Oct 10th, 2024 at 9:53am
 
If there were thoughts of someone making a move on Albo ... I'm guessing it won't be Richard Marles!   Grin

Top Marles staffer claims she was ‘bullied’ out of job


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In an emotional press conference, Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles’s chief of staff Jo Tarnawsky has appealed to Anthony Albanese to intervene, alleging she was bullied, pushed aside and prevented from doing her job for the past five months.
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Reply #15 - Oct 13th, 2024 at 9:18pm
 
Newspoll:
51
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49
to Coalition


Marginal changes on the primary vote prove sufficient to give the Coalition a two-party lead in Newspoll for the first time this term.


The latest Newspoll records a two-party lead for the Coalition for the first time since this term, at 51-49 after a 50-50 result three weeks ago, though both major parties are unchanged on the
primary vote, Labor at 31%
and the
Coalition at 38%
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The movement is down to a one-point drop for the Greens to 12% and a one-point increase for One Nation to 7%. Anthony Albanese is down three on approval to 40% and up three on disapproval to 54%, edging out past results in August (41% and 54%) and last November (40% and 53%) as his worst net result for the term. Peter Dutton is respectively up one to 38% and steady at 52%, with preferred prime minister narrowing from 46-37 to
45
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37
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Reply #16 - Oct 15th, 2024 at 11:31am
 
Anthony Albanese buys $4.3 million ‘clifftop perfection’ property.

Wow, the optics of this during a cost of living crisis.   Roll Eyes

Blimey, couldn't wait six months? This kind of stuff proves he has lost any political nous he may have once had.
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Reply #17 - Oct 21st, 2024 at 8:50am
 
The monthly Freshwater Strategy poll in the Financial Review has the
Coalition with a lead
of
51
-
49
, a slight improvement for Labor on a 52-48 result last time.

The primary votes are all but entirely unchanged, with
Labor steady on 30%
, the
Coalition down one to 41%
and the
Greens steady on 13%
.

Despite the headline result, the changes on personal ratings favour the Coalition, with Anthony Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister narrowing from 45-41 to
44
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43
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Peter
Dutton is up three on approval to 37%
and up one on
disapproval to 39%
, while
Anthony Albanese is up one to 35%
and
steady on 49%
.

The poll also got in quick with a question on the Prime Minister’s headline-grabbing $4.3 million property purchase last week, finding 36% saying it had worsened their view of him, 4% that it had improved it, and 52% that it had no impact. The poll was conducted Friday to Sunday from a sample of 1034.
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Reply #18 - Oct 21st, 2024 at 11:29am
 
It's far too early to make any definitive predictions. While I would have preferred Labor to perform better, they must still be held accountable for falling short of expectations. But does that necessarily warrant their removal from office?

The alternatives are undeniably worse, and we need to find a middle ground. However, I hope that doesn’t result in another unstable Labor/Greens minority government.

The only safe prediction I can make at this stage is that, regardless of the outcome, the usual suspects will insist the results validate their pre-existing obsessions. Reality hasn’t held much sway with them thus far, and I see no reason why that should change any time soon. Calling this a prediction may be a cheap shot, given its inevitability, but it’s simply too early to offer anything more informed.
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Reply #19 - Oct 23rd, 2024 at 11:24am
 
After ticking in Labor’s favour a fortnight ago, the latest Essential Research poll ticks back with a four point drop to
28%
(down a point on two polls ago), while the Coalition recovers the point it lost last time to hit
35%
.

The Greens are steady on
12%
, One Nation is down one to
7%
, and undecided component is up one to 6%.

The pollster’s 2PP+ measure, which has shown a tight tussle for around a year now, has the Coalition up one to
48%
and Labor down three to
46%
.

The poll also includes the monthly leadership ratings, which give Peter Dutton his best results to date, his approval up three to
45%
and disapproval down three to 39%. Anthony Albanese is up two to
44%
and up one on disapproval to 48%.

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Reply #21 - Oct 23rd, 2024 at 11:56am
 
And ... as another nail in Albo Labor's coffin:

AEMO head ‘cannot guarantee’ cheaper power under current roadmap


Australian Energy Market Operator chief executive Daniel Westerman has told a Senate committee that the electricity market roadmap was on the ‘lowest cost pathway’ but that was no guarantee for consumers of electricity prices coming down.

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Reply #22 - Oct 23rd, 2024 at 12:37pm
 
Australian elections are irrelevant. Nothing changes after an election. All the promises expired on election night.

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Reply #23 - Oct 23rd, 2024 at 1:34pm
 
You left out - "Deep Sorrow For Voters Whichever".

You KNOW our politicians are a few boats short of a ferry service .... in many ways .....
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Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 23rd, 2024 at 11:56am:
And ... as another nail in Albo Labor's coffin:

AEMO head ‘cannot guarantee’ cheaper power under current roadmap


Australian Energy Market Operator chief executive Daniel Westerman has told a Senate committee that the electricity market roadmap was on the ‘lowest cost pathway’ but that was no guarantee for consumers of electricity prices coming down.



Yeah - that's the way - got to have an overpaid and over-perked 'chief executive' for Moving Deck Chairs .... to do a job a clerk could do and already does.
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Reply #25 - Oct 23rd, 2024 at 3:46pm
 
If Albo Labor was banking on a rate cut just prior to next year's Federal election, they may be facing yet another nail in the coffin if this inflation prediction is correct:


IMF inflation warning: World goes low as we stay high


The IMF has issued a grim inflation outlook for Australia.


Australia’s run of high inflation is on track to exceed all advanced economies except Slovakia’s, ­according to new IMF forecasts that will increase pressure on the ­Albanese government.

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Election day, 2025, from the perspective of the voters .........

.....like a lonely Australian traveler on a moonless night, who, hearing footsteps behind him, fears to turn around, so instead raises and looks in a mirror darkly.......... and so views what band of loathsome beasts is shuffling its way towards Canberra this time around ...
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Reply #27 - Oct 26th, 2024 at 9:52am
 
“mired in mediocrity”
  Grin  Nailed it!


Kim Carr’s memoir is an elegy for older-style Labor politics. Only time will tell if it’s an elegy for the Labor project itself

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The former senior minister seems nostalgic for a time when the ALP could rely on a large base of blue-collar workers and their families

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The moniker ‘true believer’ could almost have been invented for former Labor minister Kim Carr, writes ANU prof Frank Bongiorno. His memoir adds him to a chorus of former party heavyweights criticising the Albanese government. Photograph: Mick Tsikas/AAP


The moniker “true believer” could almost have been invented for Kim Carr. Indeed, he began his almost 30-year Senate career at the very election, 1993, that Paul Keating claimed had been a “victory for the true believers”.

His career was devoted to the proposition that if Australia embraced new technologies and developed the right skill base, it could still make things – an idea that seems to be fashionable in federal Labor government circles again.

It, therefore, matters that he has joined the growing number of former senior Labor politicians who have become increasingly critical of the direction of the Albanese government.

Carr is critical of the small target strategy that Anthony Albanese used to get into office, his policies being “more like running repairs than substantial reforms”. The party, says Carr, has become alienated from low-income voters, leaning in to an “identity politics” that has caused it to lose touch with its traditional support base – whose welfare was really Labor’s raison d’être.


Carr could fairly be described as “old school Labor”. His memoir, A Long March, published this month by Monash University Publishing, does nothing to dispel that impression.

Carr, the product of a working-class family – his father was a boilermaker – joined the Labor party in 1975 amid the outrage over the dismissal of the Whitlam government. He was a senior minister in the Rudd and Gillard governments, as minister for innovation, industry, science and research. He played an important role in forming the Rudd-Gillard “dream team” in 2006. He was a victim of its later disintegration, which resulted in Julia Gillard’s demotion of him.

Carr cannot be dismissed as a lone voice, for he is among several former Labor heavyweights deeply worried about the government’s direction. Others include former New South Wales premier Bob Carr, former foreign minister Gareth Evans and – the hardest critic of all – former prime minister Paul Keating, all mostly concerned with Aukus. Bill Kelty, an architect of Labor’s Accord of the 1980s and 1990s and former Australian Council of Trade Unions leader of deep influence in that era, has described the government as “mired in mediocrity”.


Recent media commentary suggests that some present government members, including Albanese, are finding this running commentary frustrating. But it is not new for former leaders to criticise aspects of government policy from the sidelines after they have ceased to be active politicians. Gough Whitlam had some hard things to say about the government run by Bob Hawke and Keating on occasion, such as the reintroduction of university fees. Keating was critical of the Whitlam government’s economic performance. Whitlam responded in kind, calling him “a smart-arse”. No one seemed unduly worried on either side.

It seems different now. While getting re-elected was no doddle in the 1980s and 1990s, governments seem to have an even more precarious existence these days. If they are more sensitive to the criticism of party elders, it possibly reflects a stronger sense of the fragility of their hold on power.


There is also the question of whether the critics are imagining a past that was better than it actually was. Carr can sometimes seem nostalgic for a Labor party able to rely on a large base of blue-collar workers and their families for support in an economy that still employed large numbers of workers in manufacturing, mining and transport. Senior Labor figures of the 1980s on the right of the party, such as Keating or Bob Carr, who were notably pro-American when in office, can seem inconsistent or even hypocritical when offering meaty criticism of the government for positioning itself too closely to the United States today.

It is, however, alarming to learn from Carr’s memoir of the lack of debate within the opposition under Albanese when Scott Morrison presented it with the fait accompli of Aukus in 2021. There was no caucus vote on its acceptance. And, since Labor came to office, it has been hard to discern in the party’s internal affairs since then the kind of robust debate and disagreement that has previously been a feature of the Labor party when it contemplates foreign and defence policy. As we are often reminded by those who look back to “better” times, Hawke was overruled by his own party in the mid-1980s after he agreed to allow America to test MX missiles off the Australian coast.


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Reply #28 - Oct 26th, 2024 at 9:54am
 
Every federal Labor government since Andrew Fisher’s in 1910 – the first to win a national election – has been criticised by people on its side of politics for not going far enough or fast enough. The Albanese government is no different in that respect. But the word “timidity” is increasingly being thrown about when the government is mentioned, and it does not have the positive spin of the “caution” or “moderation” heard earlier in the government’s life.

Carr’s A Long March is, in some respects, an elegy for an older kind of Labor politics. Only time will tell if it turns out to be an elegy for the Labor project itself.


Frank Bongiorno is Professor of History at the Australian National University and is in conversation with Kim Carr at the Canberra Writers festival on 27 October

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/26/kim-carr-memoir-elegy-labo...

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Nobody wants idiot Dutton in power other than the Murdoch press.

Liberals have been led by a string of idiots and the Liberal political body rejected intellectuals like Turnbull.

There will never be an intellectual Liberal Prime Minister, only idiots like Abbott and Dutton.
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I already feel sorry for Weeping Queensland... whichever way it goes.... a disaster for all... and potential for the outbreak of Civil War.

Secede Now!  Note Gon'Mo Island north of West Malaria....
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KangAnon wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 11:50am:
Get help.


I'll send it to you as soon as I can find someone near you....

Just one look at that map shows you how big the dog is that this Brisdrain tail is wagging with all its Madness Modern Educated Mk 1.  I notice the fifteen plus huge freehold land claims aren't in their backyards ....... of course not - it's only the semi-educated hill billies out there who can be affected......   Cool  Cool  Cool  Cool




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We know - it's all too much to handle this reality....
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We ought to call in the administrators and abandon the Elite's democracy. Bring in something new, for the people. The Libs and Labs are eons past their use-by date, their psyches are from prehistoric times, no one thinks like them anymore

This is how they think ...

Millions of immigrants when there's no housing - just madness

Proposing nuclear power plants when nuclear is going out of fashion - more madness

$368 billion for submarines with no money to pay for them - extreme madness

National social security bill going through the roof - insane

Yes, we need to close Parliament and put Australia under administration while we minimize the overbearing influence of the ALP, the Coalition, and their supporters







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Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 1:52pm:
We ought to call in the administrators and abandon the Elite's democracy. Bring in something new, for the people. The Libs and Labs are ions past their use-by date, their psyches are from prehistoric times, no one thinks like them anymore

This is how they think ...

Millions of immigrants when there's no housing - just madness

Proposing nuclear power plants when nuclear is going out of fashion - more madness

$368 billion for submarines with no money to pay for them - extreme madness

National social security bill going through the roof - insane

Yes, we need to close Parliament and put Australia under administration while we minimize the overbearing influence of the ALP, the Coalition, and their supporters



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It’s going too be a labor minority government answering too the greens negotiating with teals and independents.

This is why the labor dogs are so vocal atm attacking the greens.

Once government is formed suddenly they all be best friends again. Just like the Rudd: Gillard: Rudd; Chinese years

I’ve all ready put money on it.

Nobody voted Albo in last election.
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Minority governments are very rare so one or the other will win.


Labor have a non ideal leader and the Liberals much worse. In terms of the economy Labor should hold office depending on the scare campaign.

The deciding factor in this position is likely the Murdoch effort giving the Liberals an advantage and the Australian people the disadvantage.
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Dnarever wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
Minority governments are very rare so one or the other will win.


Labor have a non ideal leader and the Liberals much worse. In terms of the economy Labor should hold office depending on the scare campaign.

The deciding factor in this position is likely the Murdoch effort giving the Liberals an advantage and the Australian people the disadvantage.



We will have a Dutton Govt. soon.
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Bobby. wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:44pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
Minority governments are very rare so one or the other will win.


Labor have a non ideal leader and the Liberals much worse. In terms of the economy Labor should hold office depending on the scare campaign.

The deciding factor in this position is likely the Murdoch effort giving the Liberals an advantage and the Australian people the disadvantage.



We will have a Dutton Govt. soon.


Maybe - How sad for all Australians.
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Reply #41 - Oct 26th, 2024 at 8:11pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 8:07pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:44pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
Minority governments are very rare so one or the other will win.


Labor have a non ideal leader and the Liberals much worse. In terms of the economy Labor should hold office depending on the scare campaign.

The deciding factor in this position is likely the Murdoch effort giving the Liberals an advantage and the Australian people the disadvantage.



We will have a Dutton Govt. soon.


Maybe - How sad for all Australians.



At least Dutton can manage money -

Labor never could.

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Daves2017 wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:34pm:
It’s going too be a labor minority government answering too the greens negotiating with teals and independents.

This is why the labor dogs are so vocal atm attacking the greens.

Once government is formed suddenly they all be best friends again. Just like the Rudd: Gillard: Rudd; Chinese years

I’ve all ready put money on it.

Nobody voted Albo in last election.
We voted Scomo out


"Nobody voted Albo in last election.
We voted Scomo out"


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Often, it is the "little things" that bring down political figures ...


The first rule of Flight Club is don’t talk about Flight Club:
Albanese under fire over free Qantas upgrades

...
PM Anthony Albanese with then Qantas CEO Alan Joyce at a 2023 gala celebrating the airline’s 100 years of operation.

Joe Aston’s new book reveals
the PM liaised directly with Alan Joyce about personal flight upgrades.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 27th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Often, it is the "little things" that bring down political figures ...


The first rule of Flight Club is don’t talk about Flight Club:
Albanese under fire over free Qantas upgrades

https://i.imgur.com/zAvDjA5.jpg
PM Anthony Albanese with then Qantas CEO Alan Joyce at a 2023 gala celebrating the airline’s 100 years of operation.

Joe Aston’s new book reveals
the PM liaised directly with Alan Joyce about personal flight upgrades.



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Bobby. wrote on Oct 27th, 2024 at 3:48pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 27th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Often, it is the "little things" that bring down political figures ...


The first rule of Flight Club is don’t talk about Flight Club:
Albanese under fire over free Qantas upgrades

https://i.imgur.com/zAvDjA5.jpg
PM Anthony Albanese with then Qantas CEO Alan Joyce at a 2023 gala celebrating the airline’s 100 years of operation.

Joe Aston’s new book reveals
the PM liaised directly with Alan Joyce about personal flight upgrades.



As long as Albo registered the bribes it's OK.


Pretty sus when you think about how Qatar Airways was restricted by the government eh?  Wink

Any link there in protecting Qantas from increased competition?
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The Qantas flight path under Joyce: high-flyer to nosedive

Joe Aston’s book about Qantas examines the murky relationship between the nation’s politicians and the Flying Kangaroo.

...

The Treasurer never asked former Qantas chairman Alan Joyce for upgrades but accepted one for himself and his family in 2018

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Any link to Albo Labor helping Qantas by blocking Qatar Airways?

Just a coincidence?  Roll Eyes

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I'll give you another prediction about Albo post election loss:-

He'll make a statement, regarding the voice insanity, that he never realised how deep seated racism was in the average Australian's heart.... and that's the only reason his disastrous idea failed....

Talk about out of touch with real democracy and real equality etc.... to his kind, real equality is being handed specials every five minutes.... things that nobody else gets... started with the feminists years ago - and I saw the writing on the wall then... now look at the state of the country.... for real without the rose coloured glasses.

Namby-pambying has lead to:-

firstly, out of control youth, many such living the gangstah life and thinking it's the way things are and is good fun, many die as a result of their own actions, and many end up lifetime criminals as a result - then there is the introduction, as a measure to halt this, of the Midnight Express I warned you all about - the NT shipping baddies 1500 miles away for 're-education'.. I Told You So!

secondly, out of control Aboriginal demands and behaviour and the totally incorrect assumption on the part of many such that they are Entitled™ to anything they want or want to do, since they are told over and over what victims they've been.  The fact that they are mostly victims of their own unwillingness to accept that things have changed is ignored; that nobody forces them to crimes is ignored; that nobody forces them to live where they do and how they do is ignored; that the cries of 'Whartey's Way made us violent to our women etc' are made absurd by the reality that remote communities are the worst at it - all to satisfy 'the narrative' that somehow they are 'owed' far more than those penniless convicts, early Free Settlers, refugees and so forth who came here and built a better life under the prevailing new standards.  I Told You So!

thirdly - read the second - the same in many cases applies to certain kinds of immigrant populations... and in some cases that is made even worse by their bringing here ancient feuds to the death ... madness....  I Told You So!

Anyway - there's more but you need to do your own work - that way you actually 'own' your resolutions of issues and your resolves to do something.  THINK on it.... DO something... I can't do it all for you.   Cool

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The move to cut HECS debt will go over well with younger voters I reckon, but Labor will need to do something substantial for the older groups because Labor has the younger voting group sewn up already:

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There is a world-wide rejection of incumbent governments and a world-wide rejection of "woke" agendas, so what does Freebie Albanese come up with?

"Banning" under 16s from social media.  Roll Eyes
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That's to undercut their access to information and chat rooms about cutting off their balls and tits etc, as well as getting them - hopefully - to concentrate more on their study.

Great idea - stops them being crowd-pushed into 'transgender' or drugs or being poof or whatever, stops bullies networking to 'get' others etc... something young girls excel at - along with sucking up sweetly to the teacher so the boy gets blamed for it, keeps them away from porn and twisted ideas of sex and such ... imagine girls (and boys) of thirteen being groomed online to do BJs and such and take it up the tail pipe and into thinking they MUST 'give out' early and even that under-age pregnancy is the go-to thing ....  FFS ....

Best idea any advisory to the government body came up with - and parents will agree totally - it's hardly an Albo initiative.
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Unenforceable, indeed there will be no penalties.

Not retrospective.

It was "against the law mate" to smoke and drink alcohol too.

This can't actually work and gives the owners of social media platforms even more excuse to fail to monitor posts, since it will now be "against the law mate" for younger kids.

They will claim that anything goes coz everyone is now over 16 on here.  Sad
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Parental empowerment returns..... one bit at a time .... at the heart of every politician lies the soul of a dictator fashioned by his/her own upbringing  ....
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The fortnightly Essential Research poll has Labor bouncing back three points on the primary vote after a four-point slump last time, to
31%
, with the Coalition down a point to
34%
, the Greens steady on
12%
and One Nation up two to
9%
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Labor’s improvement does not flow through to the 2PP+ measure, on which the Coalition’s lead shifts from 48-46 to
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First Newspoll result from The Australian in four weeks, showing the
Coalition
with an unchanged
two-party lead
of
51
-
49
.

Both major parties are up two on the primary vote,
Labor to 33%
and the
Coalition to 40%
, with the
Greens down one to 11%
and
One Nation down two to 5%
.

Anthony Albanese is steady on 40% approval
and up one on
disapproval to 55%
, while
Peter Dutton is up two on approval to 40%
and down one on
disapproval to 51%
.

Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister narrows from 45-37 to
45
-
41
. The poll was conducted Monday to Friday from a sample of 1261.

Nine Newspapers has the monthly Resolve Strategic poll has
Labor unchanged on 30%
, the
Coalition up one to 39%
, the
Greens down one to 11%
,
One Nation steady on 5%
, independent down one to 11% and others up one to 4%.

Two-party preferred somewhere between 50-50 and
51
-
49
to the Coalition, based on preference flows at the 2022 election.

Anthony Albanese
is up two on
approval to 37%
and down one on
disapproval to 51%,
while
Peter Dutton is up four to 45%
and down one to
40%
.

The two leaders are tied 37-37 on preferred prime minister, after Albanese led 38-35 last time.

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It all adds to the negative perception of Labor.

Cbusted: Union-linked fund’s super-sized betrayal of the grieving

One of the nation’s biggest super funds, Cbus, will face the Federal Court over alleged mishandling of $20m in insurance money, imperilling the political standing of its chairman, Labor Party president Wayne Swan.

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Well - so far I've predicted the NT, Queensland, and Trump - missed out on the Gaga Strip - the ACT .... but you know what they're like... they imagine they are all 'activist' down there...

So when I say AlboCorp will see the rear of the field all the way - I mean it.  Albo sank Labor with the 'voice' madness; then the Voice By Stealth via the states; the continuing addiction of Labor to the lies of feminism about 'poor underpaid women' etc; the quantum leap of Labor from a national wage case to a 'sector bargaining' concept (see teachers, police and nurses in NSW - policy of division and isolation of each group for easy disposal one at a time) under the tutelage of the rather odd-looking ACTU 'president' (easy to see what we have there - same old, same old); the direct assault on one of the few remaining man-dominated Unions with any power (they must think we're all stupid out here);** the craven approach to ultravicious Gazan/Hezbollah genocide attempts against Israel; Wong's clearly shown ineptitude in the international sphere; the inability of Labor to come to grips with the Aboriginal problem but instead to make it all worse; and now The Rudd Legacy - Curse Of The Bigmouth ..... well ..... what can you expect but a whitewash across Australia?

**
I can understand Labor wanting to upgrade its propaganda arm in schools etc so as to advance 'The Cause' - and upgrade/pay off its enforcement arm so as to have them more malleable and under orders to attack any 'right wing' movements but cheer on the 'left' and other murderous lunatics - for 'The Cause' .... but why are they running down the nurses and ambos?

Anyway - Labor has shot itself down this time...


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WOW!

This has just blown a hole in Albo's anti-nuclear campaign.
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UK and US join forces to speed up advanced nuclear technologies
New agreement for civil nuclear collaboration signed by UK and US at COP29 in Baku, helping strengthen energy security.


The United Kingdom and United States have joined forces at COP29 to speed up the deployment of cutting-edge nuclear technology to help decarbonise industry and boost energy security.

The UK Energy Secretary Ed Miliband and US Deputy Secretary of Energy David Turk have today (Monday 18 November) signed a new agreement while in Baku for climate talks that will help pool together billions of pounds worth of nuclear research and development – including the world’s leading academic institutions and nuclear innovators.

The UK will take a leading role in the forum, which aims to support information-sharing on advanced nuclear technologies and make them available for use in industry by 2030. 

New technologies such as advanced modular reactors can help decarbonise heavy industry such as aviation fuel, hydrogen or advanced steel production, by providing low-carbon heat and power. They are also smaller and can be made in factories, making them quicker and cheaper to build.

This will support the commitment made last year at COP28 to triple nuclear energy capacity globally by 2050, with 31 countries signed up including the US and UK.

The UK is reversing a legacy of no nuclear being delivered and moving forward with its advanced nuclear reactor programme and Great British Nuclear’s small modular reactor competition, as well as continuing development of the Sizewell C project. New nuclear will help to secure thousands of good, skilled jobs and support energy independence beyond 2030.

Energy Secretary Ed Miliband said:

Nuclear will play a vital role in our clean energy future.

That is why we are working closely with our allies to unleash the potential of cutting-edge nuclear technology.

Advanced nuclear technology will help decarbonise industry by providing low-carbon heat and power, supporting new jobs and investment here in the UK.

As part of this new agreement, the Generation IV International Forum will no longer include Russia – ensuring future collaborations remain among mutually willing parties who respect nuclear safety norms.

The new agreement will come into force from 1 March 2025 and is expected to also be signed by: Canada, France, Japan, Republic of Korea, Republic of South Africa, China, Euratom, Switzerland and AustraliaCool

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Home, drawn and quartered: longest run of negatives


The Albanese government is ­presiding over the longest household recession with GDP per ­capita going backwards for the past six quarters, in a trend that exceeds any period in the past 50 years.

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Meanwhile,

Emergency energy powers activated to keep NSW lights on

The Australian Energy Market Operator will use emergency powers to reduce demand for electricity in NSW to combat blackouts fears as outages at power stations continue.


It will be another nail in Albo and Bowan's political coffin if widespread black/brownouts occur this Summer.  Wink
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My updated prediction is the green vote is contracting and without it labor has zero chance.

I don’t think it will even be close.

Dutton crew will be the next pigs too the trough.

Albo really believe people voted for him when really people voted against Scomo.

Goodbye Albo, keep dying your hair blonde.
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Another vote winner ...

Dutton won’t stand in front of Indigenous flags as PM


Peter Dutton has declared he would never address the nation with both the Australian and Indigenous flags behind him at press conferences should he become prime minister.


When asked if he would continue to stand with only the Australian flag behind him at press conferences as he has done in the past if elected Prime Minister, Dutton confirmed that he would. While saying both the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander flags should be respected, he reiterated that they are not the National flags of Australia.

Good job too!

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These yawn posts are really working for you in the Tavern mod vote I see.  Grin
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Reply #67 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 7:46am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 10th, 2024 at 8:51am:
Another vote winner ...

Dutton won’t stand in front of Indigenous flags as PM


Peter Dutton has declared he would never address the nation with both the Australian and Indigenous flags behind him at press conferences should he become prime minister.


When asked if he would continue to stand with only the Australian flag behind him at press conferences as he has done in the past if elected Prime Minister, Dutton confirmed that he would. While saying both the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander flags should be respected, he reiterated that they are not the National flags of Australia.

Good job too!



And it was Labor and Albo accused of dividing the nation...
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Reply #68 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 7:47am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 10th, 2024 at 10:04am:
These yawn posts are really working for you in the Tavern mod vote I see.  Grin


I get it though, it's the same tired shtick from you lot.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
She had the potential to damage Labor at the next election, maybe there will be some impact but this choice of name for her political party is very poor.

People will associate her with the disastrous "Voice to parliament" messGrin

Fatima Payman launches new political party named ‘Australia’s Voice’

ByJosefine Ganko

Independent senator Fatima Payman is holding a press conference in Canberra to formally announce her new political party, named “Australia’s Voice”.

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The former Labor senator is speaking in Canberra.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

Here’s an extract from her announcement:

We can no longer sit by while our voices are drowned out by the same old politics. It’s time to stand up, to rise together and to take control of our future.

And so it is with great humility and deep responsibility that I announce the formation of Australia’s Voice, a new political party for the disenfranchised, the unheard, and those yearning for real change.

Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what needs to be done, we will do it.”


She doesn't represent anything Australian.

Australians are fed up with the likes of her & Lydia Thorpe.
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Reply #70 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:20pm
 
Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:47pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
She had the potential to damage Labor at the next election, maybe there will be some impact but this choice of name for her political party is very poor.

People will associate her with the disastrous "Voice to parliament" messGrin

Fatima Payman launches new political party named ‘Australia’s Voice’

ByJosefine Ganko

Independent senator Fatima Payman is holding a press conference in Canberra to formally announce her new political party, named “Australia’s Voice”.

https://i.imgur.com/CGmIXUz.jpg
The former Labor senator is speaking in Canberra.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

Here’s an extract from her announcement:

We can no longer sit by while our voices are drowned out by the same old politics. It’s time to stand up, to rise together and to take control of our future.

And so it is with great humility and deep responsibility that I announce the formation of Australia’s Voice, a new political party for the disenfranchised, the unheard, and those yearning for real change.

Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what needs to be done, we will do it.”


She doesn't represent anything Australian.



Really?

"Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy."

I've not seen any surveys on the subject, but I would think that many, many Australians share her views.
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Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 9:58am:
Nobody wants idiot Dutton in power other than the Murdoch press.

Liberals have been led by a string of idiots and the Liberal political body rejected intellectuals like Turnbull.

There will never be an intellectual Liberal Prime Minister, only idiots like Abbott and Dutton.


Turnbull an intellectual?  Grin Grin

A bed wetting traumatised kid raised by a single father(Albanese a single mother) lived in very modest digs until his fathers business picked up.

A defender of Kerry Packer and a partner in Jewish American Bank Goldman Sachs who'd have guessed you'd be a fan? Grin

Quote:
In 1987, Turnbull established an investment banking firm, Whitlam Turnbull & Co Ltd, in partnership with Neville Wran, the former Labor Premier of New South Wales, and Nicholas Whitlam, the former Chief Executive of the State Bank of New South Wales and the son of former Labor Prime Minister Gough Whitlam. Whitlam parted company with the firm in 1990; it operated as Turnbull & Partners Ltd until 1997.

Turnbull left the firm he co-founded in 1997 to become a managing director of Goldman Sachs Australia, eventually becoming a partner in Goldman Sachs and Co.

Additionally, he worked as a director of Star Technology Systems from 1993 to 1995.

During this time Turnbull was also the chairman of Axiom Forest Resources, which conducted logging in the Solomon Islands under the trading name Silvania Forest Products.

The latter's work was described by the Australian International Development Assistance Bureau as a "clear-felling operation",[62]

and the then Solomon Islands Prime Minister Solomon Mamaloni reportedly threatened to close it down for "constant breaches of logging practices", according to a critical article in the Solomon Times.[63][64]

Turnbull purchased a stake in the internet service provider OzEmail in 1994 for $500,000. He sold this stake several months before the dot com bubble burst in 1999 for $57 million to then-telecommunications giant MCI Worldcom.[65]

In May 2002, Turnbull appeared before the HIH Insurance royal commission to be questioned on Goldman Sachs's involvement in the possible privatisation of one of the acquisitions of the collapsed insurance company.

The Royal Commissioner's report made no adverse findings against him or Goldman Sachs,[66] however, Turnbull was one of nine defendants who settled later litigation over the collapse in undisclosed payments, thought to be worth as much as $500m.


Not forgetting what he has squirrelled away in offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands to avoid paying tax.

And him whilst Prime Minister giving his mates in the setup company The Great Barrier Reef Foundation $500 million of tax payers money with out any scrutiny and due diligence.

The bloke is as big a crook as Albanese is an inept F*#@ wit.
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Reply #72 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:30pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:47pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
She had the potential to damage Labor at the next election, maybe there will be some impact but this choice of name for her political party is very poor.

People will associate her with the disastrous "Voice to parliament" messGrin

Fatima Payman launches new political party named ‘Australia’s Voice’

ByJosefine Ganko

Independent senator Fatima Payman is holding a press conference in Canberra to formally announce her new political party, named “Australia’s Voice”.

https://i.imgur.com/CGmIXUz.jpg
The former Labor senator is speaking in Canberra.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

Here’s an extract from her announcement:

We can no longer sit by while our voices are drowned out by the same old politics. It’s time to stand up, to rise together and to take control of our future.

And so it is with great humility and deep responsibility that I announce the formation of Australia’s Voice, a new political party for the disenfranchised, the unheard, and those yearning for real change.

Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what needs to be done, we will do it.”


She doesn't represent anything Australian.



Really?

"Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy."

I've not seen any surveys on the subject, but I would think that many, many Australians share her views.


She has a self serving agenda like Thorpe.

Payman Muslims - Thorpe Aboriginal.

And like Thorpe the only reason she sits in the Senate is because of the safe senate seat handed to her by one of the majors the ALP.

Thorpe riding in on a Greens ticket.

Neither now represent the parties who put them there & IMO should have to resign - not be allowed to sit as independents.

They do not represent the vast majority of their constituents.
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Reply #73 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:32pm
 
KangAnon wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 7:46am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 10th, 2024 at 8:51am:
Another vote winner ...

Dutton won’t stand in front of Indigenous flags as PM


Peter Dutton has declared he would never address the nation with both the Australian and Indigenous flags behind him at press conferences should he become prime minister.


When asked if he would continue to stand with only the Australian flag behind him at press conferences as he has done in the past if elected Prime Minister, Dutton confirmed that he would. While saying both the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander flags should be respected, he reiterated that they are not the National flags of Australia.

Good job too!



And it was Labor and Albo accused of dividing the nation...



They were.
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Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:47pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
She had the potential to damage Labor at the next election, maybe there will be some impact but this choice of name for her political party is very poor.

People will associate her with the disastrous "Voice to parliament" messGrin

Fatima Payman launches new political party named ‘Australia’s Voice’

ByJosefine Ganko

Independent senator Fatima Payman is holding a press conference in Canberra to formally announce her new political party, named “Australia’s Voice”.

https://i.imgur.com/CGmIXUz.jpg
The former Labor senator is speaking in Canberra.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

Here’s an extract from her announcement:

We can no longer sit by while our voices are drowned out by the same old politics. It’s time to stand up, to rise together and to take control of our future.

And so it is with great humility and deep responsibility that I announce the formation of Australia’s Voice, a new political party for the disenfranchised, the unheard, and those yearning for real change.

Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what needs to be done, we will do it.”


She doesn't represent anything Australian.



Really?

"Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy."

I've not seen any surveys on the subject, but I would think that many, many Australians share her views.


She has a self serving agenda ...


What has she said, or done, to make you think that?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:35pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:47pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
She had the potential to damage Labor at the next election, maybe there will be some impact but this choice of name for her political party is very poor.

People will associate her with the disastrous "Voice to parliament" messGrin

Fatima Payman launches new political party named ‘Australia’s Voice’

ByJosefine Ganko

Independent senator Fatima Payman is holding a press conference in Canberra to formally announce her new political party, named “Australia’s Voice”.

https://i.imgur.com/CGmIXUz.jpg
The former Labor senator is speaking in Canberra.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

Here’s an extract from her announcement:

We can no longer sit by while our voices are drowned out by the same old politics. It’s time to stand up, to rise together and to take control of our future.

And so it is with great humility and deep responsibility that I announce the formation of Australia’s Voice, a new political party for the disenfranchised, the unheard, and those yearning for real change.

Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what needs to be done, we will do it.”


She doesn't represent anything Australian.



Really?

"Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy."

I've not seen any surveys on the subject, but I would think that many, many Australians share her views.


She has a self serving agenda ...


What has she said, or done, to make you think that?



Always looking to be spoon fed?

Her whole demeanor/ language in the Parliament when Hanson tabled documents questioning her eligibility to be there Under Section 44 of the Constitution. Not game to say it outside. For a woman whose parents fled the Taliban why would she support Muslim terrorist organisations like Hamas & Hezbollah?

There are Muslim Arab Israelis being held hostage by Hamas since Oct 7th.

Along with Thorpe - a  pair of Senate pariahs.
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Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 2:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:35pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:20pm:
Gnads wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 12:47pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
She had the potential to damage Labor at the next election, maybe there will be some impact but this choice of name for her political party is very poor.

People will associate her with the disastrous "Voice to parliament" messGrin

Fatima Payman launches new political party named ‘Australia’s Voice’

ByJosefine Ganko

Independent senator Fatima Payman is holding a press conference in Canberra to formally announce her new political party, named “Australia’s Voice”.

https://i.imgur.com/CGmIXUz.jpg
The former Labor senator is speaking in Canberra.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

Here’s an extract from her announcement:

We can no longer sit by while our voices are drowned out by the same old politics. It’s time to stand up, to rise together and to take control of our future.

And so it is with great humility and deep responsibility that I announce the formation of Australia’s Voice, a new political party for the disenfranchised, the unheard, and those yearning for real change.

Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy. If we need to drag the two major parties kicking and screaming to do what needs to be done, we will do it.”


She doesn't represent anything Australian.



Really?

"Australians are fed up with the major parties having a duopoly, a stranglehold over our democracy."

I've not seen any surveys on the subject, but I would think that many, many Australians share her views.


She has a self serving agenda ...


What has she said, or done, to make you think that?



Always looking to be spoon fed?




Always looking for facts and valid reasons.

It seems to me that you hate her merely because she's a Muslim (and female).

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Spud will never be PM  Smiley
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I’m no longer so sure.

The green vote is collapsing but I can’t see it showing up on labor radar?

Without those preferences things may become very dicey.

I still firmly believe Duddo may struggle to retain his own seat.

The question I ask is who will the Teals preference?

Fwiw Jacki Lambie network is on its last legs and running on empty.
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Teals will increase their numbers as people are sick of the majors especially liberals,  Labor will be returned to minority gov which is great after what they did with cfmeu
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Labor majority government wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 11:03pm:
Teals will increase their numbers as people are sick of the majors especially liberals,  Labor will be returned to minority gov which is great after what they did with cfmeu


That was my original vote and thought but the polls I see show the greens are going too suffer big time next election.

With those preferences that would always flow to labor missing I think it’s going too become much more dynamic.

As you say people are abandoning the major parties ( I’m one) but how and where these new votes flow thu as preferences no one can be sure of
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The whole world thought Johnson, Trump and ScoMo were a bad thing. Apparently Covid was the clincher and the Media went to work pushing Biden and Albanese here.

Now the world realises, they were really duped.
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Labor majority government wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 10:24pm:
Spud will never be PM  Smiley



Lisping Albo is gone.

Who could replace him for Labor?  -  Jim Chalmers?
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Meanwhile, the swing away from Labor is increasing ...

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Bobby. wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 11:20pm:
Labor majority government wrote on Dec 11th, 2024 at 10:24pm:
Spud will never be PM  Smiley



Lisping Albo is gone.

Who could replace him for Labor?  -  Jim Chalmers?


The guy who I said should have got the job in the first place - Jason Clare.

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I suspect Spud will be our next PM god help us.

People never seem to learn.

The one common thing about conservative policy and the thing that virtually all conservatives have in common is being mean and nasty.
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I hope you are right but suspect not.
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Always enjoy Alan's work:

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Latest Roy Morgan poll:

A Coalition Government, with a slim majority, would now win a Federal Election with the two-party preferred vote unchanged from last week: L-NP 52% cf. ALP 48%, the latest Roy Morgan survey finds.

Primary support for the Coalition increased 3% to 41% this week – the highest it has been since the last Federal Election. The increase in primary support for the Coalition came largely at the expense of One Nation, but also due to drops in support for the ALP, Greens and Other Parties which all lost support.

ALP support was down 0.5% to 27.5%, Greens support was down 0.5% to 12.5%, support for One Nation dropped 1.5% to 5% and support for Other Parties was down 0.5% to 3.5%. Support for Independents remained steady at 10.5%.

A representative cross-section of 1,672 Australian electors from December 9-15, 2024.


https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9771-federal-voting-intention-december-15-202...
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The Financial Review reports the final monthly Freshwater Strategy poll for the year has voting intention results identical to last time, with the Coalition leading
51
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Labor 30%
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Coalition 40%
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Greens 14%
and others 16%. Anthony
Albanese is at 34% approval and 51% disapproval
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. Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister widens from 44-43 to 46-43, but a suite of questions on the leaders’ attributes produces better results for Dutton, including a 44% to 31% lead for being a strong leader. The poll was conducted Friday to Sunday from a sample of 1051.

The poll finds
48% expect the Coalition to win
the election
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The strange thing about Australia is that if one party wins the Federal, the other wins the majority of State elections.
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Reply #93 - Dec 16th, 2024 at 10:55pm
 
Jasin wrote on Dec 16th, 2024 at 10:30pm:
The strange thing about Australia is that if one party wins the Federal, the other wins the majority of State elections.
Go figure.


Well that’s always been a Australian thing.
I always vote out who represents me in the house and vote exactly the opposite in the senate.

You really want these absolute scum of society having complete and unfitted control of Australia!?!
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Ever since the Voice to Parliament bullcrap, Queensland went into conservative mode more than usual. Sick of the crap about the spoiled demographic wanting more and more. The LNP will have a large voter support in the Federal election 2025. Chances are, we are going to hear the whingeing of Labor supporters in the Sydney region claiming that we are a bunch of racists for not bowing to the demands of the apathetic minority.

Did I tell you about the story about indigenous people who went to work in major cities... Oh, wait a minute...

*looks around the forum for Gnads and his inevitable surmise about my story being made up*

Anyway, they went to live in cities to try and get better-paying jobs and live in safer communities. They kept getting rejected by employers in the white collar industries simply because they did not have the experience to work those jobs. They had to settle for "okay" jobs that paid the rent and kept them fed. That, despite having the qualifications and the volunteer work in regional towns to get a foot in the door.

City people know so little about the experiences of indigenous Australians. Most indigenous Australians that complete post-secondary qualifications are not given a chance to make a living in cities. That is why they stick to regional and rural areas to obtain employment.

That is the reason why city folk are usually pro-Labor, whilst regional and rural areas are pro-LNP.
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Reply #96 - Dec 18th, 2024 at 7:17pm
 

Polls are completely useless, especially this far out from the election.

Having said that, I think the ex-Queensland copper accused of kidnapping Aboriginal children, driving them out into the bush, stealing their shoes and then making them walk back home will be our next totally useless Prime Minister.

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Just accept this poll - all Labor states to Fall...
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Reply #98 - Dec 18th, 2024 at 8:54pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 8:22pm:
Just accept this poll - all Labor states to Fall...


I don't think we need polls to tell us that Albanese is a dud.

The ALP will lose the next federal election - this seems quite obvious.

I didn't want Albanese as the Labor leader, and I haven't liked much about his performance as Prime Minister.

Let's hope Dutton does a half decent job   Undecided

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Albo Labor is in strife.  Shocked

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I wonder who wins the next election be it labor or the coalition, if we will be in for a hung parliament.   Huh   
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Swing against Albo Labor by state ...

Very interesting result in VIC. (4.6%Shocked

Labor should be very worried.  Wink

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Victoria might hold out - they're a pretty bad lot of political 'leaders' on all sides down there... figures..... talk about some dumb decisions and dumber public utterances...
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He has a way with words!    Grin


Opinion
Albanese’s inaction drives his own party towards extinction


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January 18, 2025 — 5.00am

Extinctions sometimes strangely entwine – like the ancient Maugean skate ray, of which it is estimated fewer than 120 remain and which will likely be driven to extinction in the next few years because of the Tasmanian salmon industry, and the federal ALP, of which 78 lower house members remain.
Maugean skates need oxygen to survive and breed. Untreated sewage flowing from salmon feedlots into Tasmania’s remote Macquarie Harbour equals that of a city of a million people. All that poo eats so much oxygen that large areas become marine death zones. The ALP is similarly suffocating in a deluge of corporate poo that eats the values and purpose it needs to survive.

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And yet, under Anthony Albanese, Labor gives the ever stronger impression that it has never seen a corporation that it won’t prostrate itself to. Each knee-step taken in his bizarre pilgrimage of national humiliation, from his log cabin origins to his house on the hill, is loudly tolled by the sound of the corporate cash registers jubilantly ringing with growing profits. Qantas and the promised legislation to make it pay customers compensation for late or cancelled flights? No action – ka-ching! The gambling industry and the ads more than 70 per cent of Australians want gone? No action – ka-ching! More coal mine approvals, new gas fields approvals, $1 billion for a Gina Rinehart-backed mine? No problem! Ka-ching! Even a spineless environmental measure like Tanya Plibersek’s “nature positive” bill is axed by Albanese at the behest of the West Australian mining industry. Ka-ching! Ka-ching! Ka-ching!

The word extinction was first paired with species in the 1880s as a result of a Cambridge don’s search for the last great auk, a penguin-like bird hunted to extinction by humans. “A healthy population existed until close to the time of the species’ extinction,” Tim Flannery wrote in a recent piece in New York Review of Books. “When it came, however, the decline of the great auk was swift and relentless.” While “the great auk was difficult to hunt at sea”, Flannery continued, “when it came ashore to breed it was uniquely vulnerable.”

And so too Albo. His much-remarked gifts of backroom dealing and party wrangling that worked in the darkness of factional intrigue serve him less well on the naked, exposed rock of government. In 2022, Labor secured just 32.58 per cent of the national primary vote, its lowest vote since 1934. Labor’s electoral fortunes give every appearance of spiralling only further downwards at the next election, with the party falling, according to the latest poll, to 31 per cent.
Great auks were not difficult to tame. There was one in the court of Louis XIV at Versailles, perhaps a little lost, like Albo at the Murdochs’ recent Christmas bash. A Danish savant kept another on a leash, not unlike the salmon barons who seem to have Albo on speed dial, with the prime minister seemingly ever ready to fly to Tasmania solely to endorse salmon companies with a record of environmental destruction, one so bad their actions led to the banning of salmon farming in Washington state (Cooke Aquaculture, owners of Tassal). According to Hilary Franz, the state commissioner of public lands there, “Cooke’s disregard ... recklessly put our state’s aquatic ecosystem at risk.”

Then there are the owners of Huon Aquaculture, JBS, a global byword for criminality. In 2017, its owner brothers Joesley and Wesley Batista admitted to bribing over 1800 politicians and public officials in Brazil. Corruption was, according to an interview Joesley gave in 2017 before going to jail with Wesley, “the rule of the game. And what’s most important, corruption was on the upper floors, with the authorities.” Today Wesley’s son Henry Batista, described in The Australian Financial Review as “the Kendall Roy of salmon”, works in Hobart as CEO of Huon Aquaculture. (Henry was not implicated in the senior Batistas’ corruption.)
According to the Australia Institute, the three 100 per cent foreign-owned Tasmanian salmon companies have paid no corporate tax for the past five years. For Albo – who has extraordinarily floated plans to exempt Macquarie Harbour from all federal environmental law under a national-interest provision typically reserved for emergencies – that’s seemingly more reason to ensure the rule of law doesn’t apply to the salmon mafia.

And once one industry can exist outside the law, why not others? Why not Woodside, which plans to keep its gas fields pumping until 2070 and open new ones, making a mockery of net zero by 2050? Why not Hancock Prospecting? And while at it, criminalise those who protest such things as the fossil fuel industry’s responsibility for the climate crisis.
If you talk to extinction experts, they will point out that a sighting of a large flock of birds can mean little as to their future prospects. A flock of, say, 78 birds may give a misleading view of the birds’ prospects as a species, when perhaps only 16 of the birds are capable of reproducing. With Labor’s primary vote steadily collapsing, Albo may be remembered not as a nickname, but as a byword for a mass extinction event.

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Reply #106 - Jan 19th, 2025 at 9:06pm
 
The ordinary person who has lived through the extraordinary, frequently heavy-handed state interventions of recent years with COVID, knows exactly just how powerful the state is. So too does Peter Dutton, a former Queensland walloper who in other circumstances might be thought to have the electoral appeal of a venomous axolotl. What the new right gets right though is that people are angry, that life gets harder, and people want change. People want the state to act – for the people.

What the right offers them is its newly found intent to use the state to achieve change. From Weimar Germany on, the cry of state action, no matter how mindless and destructive, has always appealed to societies where the established polity has grown incapable of acting. Dutton’s call for nuclear reactors built by the state may be a shroud to help the fossil fuel industry continue to profit. But at a deeper level it appeals as Donald Trump’s equally spurious calls for a wall appealed – it speaks of politicians willing to use the state to address problems. If hypocritical posturing, it nevertheless suggests a will to action.
Yet for Labor, still mired in its 1990s romance with the Hawke-Keating legacy, it too often is the market and only the market that has power. The best the state can do is kneel before it. And if Qantas or Tabcorp or News or Woodside or Tassal don’t wish to alter their ways, Labor simply agrees, rewarding and further enabling them.

The problem is that what is at stake is much greater than the Labor Party, but democracy itself. A society that no longer can use the state to address its problems – from the environment to housing to rapidly escalating inequality to the increasingly unfettered power of corporations – looks more and more like the US, where Luigi Mangione became a folk hero for allegedly murdering a health insurance company CEO. Historically, assassinations only become celebrated as political protest when political systems have grown sclerotic and violent change is often imminent – from Archduke Ferdinand in 1914 to the Romanovs in 1917 to the Rwandan dictator Habyarimana in 1994.

Delay, deny, defend: a version of the words found on Mangione’s shell casings refers to the immoral practices used by American insurance corporations in refusing to honour legitimate health claims. But they also can sound uncomfortably close to the strategy and rhetoric of the Albanese government in regard to so much of its failure to act on the many problems besetting our country.
For democracy does not die in darkness. It grows terminally ill in the Chairman’s Lounge. What Labor gets wrong is thinking that people respect it for grovelling to greed. For being photographed with Alan Joyce or in proximity of a Murdoch. For backing the Batistas. They don’t. They are enraged. Labor’s diminishing flock of lesser auks will be hunted down by the corporate raiders feasting on all the plumage and flesh that the state can offer in perks, breaks, subsidies, exemptions – what are, incidentally, our taxes, our heritage, our way of life – until all that is left is a bare, ever hotter rock and beneath it a dark seething sea covered in salmon feedlots, poo-flecked foam devoid of life.


Richard Flanagan is the first writer to win both the Baillie Gifford Prize (for non-fiction) and Booker Prize (for fiction). His most recent book is Question 7.

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Reply #107 - Jan 21st, 2025 at 9:18am
 
Latest Freshwater Poll.

Oh yeah!!!

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Reply #108 - Jan 21st, 2025 at 11:09am
 
The "big three" are looking good for Dutton. Can WA and SA save Albo?

Even in those two states, the Labor lead is reducing.  Grin

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Reply #109 - Jan 22nd, 2025 at 5:39pm
 
“Voters swing to Dutton as Australians expect to be worse off in 2025
Opposition Leader Peter Dutton now holds a lead as preferred prime minister over incumbent Anthony Albanese.
Peter Dutton leads Anthony Albanese as preferred prime minister, ahead by 39 to 34 per cent after being tied on the key question at the end of last year.“

“SMH

I don’t believe labor has the time to dump Albo which is there only chance.

This due to the internal rules Rudd made up to protect himself and his faceless men.

If the green vote collapsed as predicted it will be a Lnp majority government!
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Darwin Has Fallen

Brisbane Has Fallen

Transylvania Has Fallen

Washington Has Fallen

NEXT!!!  The betrayal of 61 to suit 39 will not go unnoticed.
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Reply #111 - Jan 23rd, 2025 at 12:47am
 
The figures are getting even more ugly for Labor in Victoria.

It seems that Albo's early "unofficial campaign" has backfired.
The more people see his ugly face and hear his whining voice, the worse it gets for him and Labor.

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Nationally, the swing has grown to 2.6% Dutton is now equal with or ahead of Albo as Preferred PM.  Shocked

Vic has blown out to 5.3%  Grin
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Inaction.
Democrats, ALP, France
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Reply #113 - Jan 24th, 2025 at 9:54am
 
BTW, there is one poll out today showing the Primary vote for State Labor here in Victoria is now at 22 odd percent.  Shocked

I don't think that poll is accurate but I do think Labor is going to be smashed at the next State election. So much economic waste and mismanagement is enough to turn even die-hard Labor voters against them.

The poll finds Labor plunging six points from an already weak position to 22%, with the Coalition up four to 42% and the Greens steady on 13% (the same sample of respondents in the federal poll published earlier this week had Labor at 25%, the Coalition at 38% and the Greens at 13%). Brad Battin debuts with a 37-27 lead over Jacinta Allan as preferred premier, compared with a 30-29 lead for John Pesutto in the November result. Twenty-eight per cent rated themselves more likely to vote Liberal after the leadership change compared with 11%, while 11% rated themselves more likely and 18% less likely to vote Labor on account of the rather less newsworthy fact of former Treasurer Tim Pallas’s retirement.

Albo will cop some of the collateral damage this year at the Federal poll too.  Wink
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As reported in The Australian, Newspoll has become the last poll series to return for the year, showing the
Coalition
opening up a
51
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49
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after a 50-50 result in the last poll in early December.
Labor is down two points on the primary vote to 31%
, its equal worst result for the term, with the
Coalition steady on 39%
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Greens up one to 12%
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One Nation steady on 7%
. Anthony Albanese’s personal ratings are his worst result to date at both ends, with approval down three to 37% and disapproval up three to 57%, while Peter Dutton is up one to 40% and steady on 51%. Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister narrows from 45-38 to 44-41, also Albanese’s weakest showing this term. The poll also finds
24% expect a Coalition majority government, 29% a Coalition minority
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The poll was conducted Monday to Friday from a sample of 1259.
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Latest MORGAN Poll:

ALP 29.5
L-NP 40.5
Green 11.5
ON 6
IND 9* other 3.5


* on readout everywhere, likely would get less at election "held now"

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Another one bites the dust. (Rats deserting the sinking ship?)

Stephen Jones to leave parliament

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Assistant Treasurer Stephen Jones will leave politics at this year’s federal election in a fourth departure from the Albanese government, surprising colleagues with the news before parliament resumes next week.

Jones, a senior member of the Labor Left and a longstanding supporter of Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, confirmed his resignation in a statement on Thursday morning but gave no reason for his departure.

The announcement comes as Jones seeks support in parliament for changes to superannuation and a new regime to crack down on financial scams while also heading into the federal budget scheduled for March 25.

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Assistant Treasurer Stephen Jones unveiled the government’s anti-scam laws in October.Credit:Dominic Lorrimer

“I want to express my immense gratitude to my community for the faith and trust they have placed in me to be their representative since 2010,” Jones said in the statement, published at 9.30am.

“I want to thank the prime minister for his friendship and support over many decades and for the trust he has placed in me to be the assistant treasurer and minister for financial services.

“To my family and friends, whose love and support has enabled me to represent our great community with the dedication it deserves, I thank you wholeheartedly.​”

Earlier, colleagues suggested Jones’ resignation appeared to be due to personal factors, including his marriage to a long-term friend last year, leading him to choose a life outside politics.

Jones worked as the national secretary of the Community and Public Sector Union from 1993 and became its national secretary for five years until 2010 when he entered parliament.

He holds the NSW seat of Whitlam, which covers parts of the Illawarra and Southern Highlands, which he won with 60.1 per cent of the vote in two-party terms at the last election.

Former Indigenous Australians minister
Linda Burney
and former skills minister
Brendan O’Connor
left the cabinet last July but have remained in parliament on the backbench until the election, allowing for a smooth transition to replace them in the ministry and Labor to find candidates for their seats.

Former government services minister
Bill Shorten
said last September he would leave government and took up a post as vice chancellor of the University of Canberra this month. He has left parliament, and his seat will be filled at the general election, avoiding the need for a byelection.

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A handy site for those interested in the various seats:

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And in other news - Labor's Nature Positive Plan is back on the table. So much for Albo removing it. Roll Eyes
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Again - I predict Untergang for Labor and its allies for the Usual Reasons that we all know.
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Looks like Ozpol is gunning for the NLP to come back in like a Trump card.
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Jasin wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:10pm:
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Albo will succumb to the Trump effect -

people want an alpha male not a lisping, woke, progressive socialist.
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With Peccary on his side. Al'baloney ain't gonna win Grin
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Jasin wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:10pm:
Looks like Ozpol is gunning for the NLP to come back in like a Trump card.



Albo will succumb to the Trump effect -

people want an alpha male not a lisping, woke, progressive socialist.


I’m always open too another view point and listen too his last news press speak.

His a slightly dumber version of Donald Duck with the same speaking impediment and stupidity in his brain.
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Jasin wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:10pm:
Looks like Ozpol is gunning for the NLP to come back in like a Trump card.


Not exactly - it's a need to preference the better of two weavils...

A lot of Laborites are jumping ship.... it's a hard life ... many of the voice-lovers are doing so...  they see the writing on the ballot papers... a little balls from DuttonCoGov on transgender butchery and on reversing the voice by stealth moves and inserting real improvements for Abos based on their accepting personal resposibility will push him over the line by a country mile..

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Reply #126 - Feb 11th, 2025 at 10:36am
 
RedBridge Group has its first federal poll since November (not counting its MRP poll with Accent Research), which has the
Coalition leading 51.5
-
48.5
on two-party preferred compared with a 50-50 result last time.


On the
primary vote, Labor is down three to 31%
, the
Coalition up two to 40%
and the
Greens steady on 11%
.

The poll also finds Coalition supporters are more firm in their voting intention (61% solid versus 34% soft) than Labor voters (51% solid and 39% soft).

Attendant media coverage is making much of regional breakdowns showing a 9% swing against Labor in the outer suburbs, compared with 5% in the inner and middle suburbs, essential no change in provincial cities, and a 3% swing in Labor’s favour in rural areas, although the error margins on these individuals breakdowns are around 6%. The poll was conducted last Monday to Friday from a sample of 1013.

The regular weekly Roy Morgan poll likewise records the C
oalition with a 51.5
-
48.5
lead on both the respondent-allocated and previous election flow measures of two-party preferred (which were respectively 50-50 and 50.5-49.5 in Labor’s favour last time).

The
primary votes are Labor 29%
(down one),
Coalition 40.5%
(up two),
Greens 11%
(down half) and
One Nation 4%
(down one-and-a-half). The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1688.
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Reply #127 - Feb 11th, 2025 at 11:40am
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 30th, 2025 at 6:10pm:
Looks like Ozpol is gunning for the NLP to come back in like a Trump card.


That's LNP

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Reply #129 - Feb 14th, 2025 at 8:37pm
 
Labor is on the rocks - Albo will lose
after seeing the Victorian State by-election results.


https://www.9news.com.au/national/werribee-byelection-labor-on-track-to-win-vict...

Labor will retain Werribee despite a 16.5 per cent swing against its primary vote
and a 10.2 per cent on a two-party preferred measure.



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Greens candidate Angelica Di Camillo has conceded defeat
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Reply #130 - Feb 14th, 2025 at 9:44pm
 
Having watched Albo “shock horror “  today at being heckled on the south coast of NSW I can see in his face his been completely and utterly out of touch.

He honestly believes his the most popular person in Australia.

His so insulated that  if a nuclear war was to rain on us the best protection would be to have him on top of you.

I’m saying now majority Lnp victory and if Duddo can get his teams brains working.

A couple of decades of Federal Lnp government.

You were given a chance labor.
You were no better.
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Reply #131 - Feb 14th, 2025 at 9:54pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Feb 14th, 2025 at 9:44pm:
Having watched Albo “shock horror “  today at being heckled on the south coast of NSW I can see in his face his been completely and utterly out of touch.

He honestly believes his the most popular person in Australia.

His so insulated that  if a nuclear war was to rain on us the best protection would be to have him on top of you.

I’m saying now majority Lnp victory and if Duddo can get his teams brains working.

A couple of decades of Federal Lnp government.

You were given a chance labor.
You were no better.
Begone



I have suffered through many questions times in the Federal parliament on TV.

Not once have I ever seen Albo give a straight answer to any question.

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I predict that it will be a Saturday.

I predict that I will vote at a local school or if not vote early.

I predict that I will not vote for a Liberal.

I predict that the independents will not research very well. (I intend to visit them this time).

I predict that the Green candidate in my area will be a nut. (hope to be wrong).
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Very likely The Potato will win the election and Australia as usual will be a worse place as a result.

Don't know why people never seem to work it out.
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It might have been more beneficial for labor if they hadn’t won the last election?

They certainly pick up a huge load of left over manure from Scomo and sons.
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Daves2017 wrote on Feb 14th, 2025 at 11:03pm:
It might have been more beneficial for labor if they hadn’t won the last election?

They certainly pick up a huge load of left over manure from Scomo and sons.


Yes but that is true of every election.
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Dnarever wrote on Feb 14th, 2025 at 10:08pm:
Quote:
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I predict that it will be a Saturday.

I predict that I will vote at a local school or if not vote early.

I predict that I will not vote for a Liberal.

I predict that the independents will not research very well. (I intend to visit them this time).

I predict that the Green candidate in my area will be a nut. (hope to be wrong).



Yep - you're a rusted on Labor voter -

no matter how bad Albo is you will still vote for him.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #137 - Feb 15th, 2025 at 5:31am
 
Election campaign.

Dutton is copying Trump - a new DOGE - dept. of Govt efficiency.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/02/12/australian-public-service-peter-dutton-effi...


Peter Dutton wants to DOGE-ify the public service.

Andrew Podger February 12, 2025

Dutton’s commitment

Dutton’s Insiders interview followed his lecture at the Menzies Research Centre. In the interview, Dutton referred to the possibility of $24 billion of savings over the four-year forward estimates — $6 billion a year — from reversing the growth in APS employees over the past three years.


more here:
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Saw an interesting clip on ABC news 24 this morning.

Both sides of politics are secretly and seriously considering death taxes.

They want to take a large portion of any inheritance you get
if say your parents die.
That means that if you are living in your family home you'll lose it.
You'll have to sell it and give the Govt perhaps half the money.
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Reply #139 - Feb 15th, 2025 at 1:48pm
 
45% death taxes in the UK:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a80b50ee5274a2e8ab51b53/5013_Tax...



The Taxation of Pensions Act received Royal Assent on 19 December 2014. From April
2015 lump sum death benefits paid from a registered pension scheme or non-UK pension
scheme are taxed at 45% where the owner of the pension rights dies age 75 or over.
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Reply #142 - Feb 15th, 2025 at 2:29pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 15th, 2025 at 12:40pm:
Saw an interesting clip on ABC news 24 this morning.

Both sides of politics are secretly and seriously considering death taxes.

They want to take a large portion of any inheritance you get
if say your parents die.
That means that if you are living in your family home you'll lose it.
You'll have to sell it and give the Govt perhaps half the money.




Many countries have death taxes.
Almost every country is in massive debt - they are broke
including us - $1.2 trillion of Federal debt -
so they will steal any pile of money they can get their hands on
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I think AlboGroup is dead in the water... the failure began on Day One of the 'voice' madness... and hasn't picked up yet.. I doubt anyone is going to forget the Voice By Stealth pushed by the Labor states - which is a large part of why they are being thrashed .... the people will never be happy at seeing their votes ignored and ridden over ...

Hardly spoken about in the media, of course - they are hoping that dog is sleeping enough to not be noticed .... they are wrong, of course.... the people want their rights back ... and for the Abos - some REAL solutions instead of pandering to them every time.
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Reply #144 - Feb 15th, 2025 at 6:01pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 15th, 2025 at 4:44pm:
I think AlboGroup is dead in the water... the failure began on Day One of the 'voice' madness... and hasn't picked up yet.. I doubt anyone is going to forget the Voice By Stealth pushed by the Labor states - which is a large part of why they are being thrashed .... the people will never be happy at seeing their votes ignored and ridden over ...

Hardly spoken about in the media, of course - they are hoping that dog is sleeping enough to not be noticed .... they are wrong, of course.... the people want their rights back ... and for the Abos - some REAL solutions instead of pandering to them every time.



Yes - Labor is on the nose all across Australia:

mass uncontrolled immigration causing a housing crisis,
pressure on hospitals, schools, roads and all infrastructure,
wasting money – $450 million wasted on "the voice."
signing up for 8 AUKUS nuke subs at 9 times the correct price for $360 billion,
out of control prices on everything.
Albo never answers any questions in parliament.
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The upcoming election.
We have been ripped off over submarines.
Is Labor to blame?
ScoMo signed it but did he know:


Look at the actual cost of the subs that the Yanks pay:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia-class_submarine

Quote:
Planned cost: about US$1.65 billion each (based on FY95 dollars, 30-boat class and two boat/year build-rate)
Actual cost: US$1.5 billion (in 1994 prices), US$2.6 billion (in 2012 prices)[108][109]
Annual operating cost: $50 million per unit (in 2012 prices)


Let's say that the cost is A$5 billion each.

We're paying $368 billion for 8 subs.
368/8 = $46 billion for each sub, 46b/5b = 9
which is about 9 times the price that we should be paying.

I know – yes -
we will get submarine manufacturing Australian locations in the deal but still -
why should we pay 9 times the price?
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Reply #146 - Feb 16th, 2025 at 9:45pm
 
The regular Newspoll from The Australian finds the Coalition leading
51
-
49
, unchanged on three weeks ago, from primary votes of
Labor 31%
(steady),
Coalition 38%
(down one), Greens
12%
(steady) and One Nation
7%
(undecided).

Anthony Albanese is steady at
37%
approval
and up one on disapproval to
58%
, while Peter Dutton is respectively up one to
41%
and steady on
51%
.

Preferred prime minister result Albanese’s lead widens 44-41 to
45
-
40
). The poll was conducted Monday to Friday from a sample of 1244.



YouGov has the first of what it promises will be regular multi-level regression and post-stratification polling, a formidable effort compiled from 40,689 interviews conducted between January 22 and February 12. This produces estimates for all 150 electorates based on their demography, which you can learn more about on the YouGov site. https://au.yougov.com/politics/articles/51612-mrp-coming-soon

Its
median projection is
73 seats
for the Coalition
,
66
for Labor
,
8
for independents
and
1
each for the
Greens
,
Katter’s Australian Party
and the Centre Alliance.

For all the talk of Victoria, it suggests Labor’s biggest headache is New South Wales, where it trails in Bennelong, Eden-Monaro, Gilmore, Hunter, Macquarie, Paterson, Robertson, Shortland and Werriwa. A summary list names Labor’s other projected losses as Aston, Chisholm and McEwen in Victoria, Bullwinkel and Tangney in Western Australia, and Lyons in Tasmania, though there may be more to it than that because the full data set also finds the Liberals marginally favoured in Boothby in South Australia.

With the caveat that MRP has a better record with standard two-party contests than with minor parties and independents, Labor is favoured in all three of the Greens-held seats in Brisbane (even historically conservative Ryan) and to recover Fowler from Dai Le, while the teal incumbents are reckoned to be “safe”.

In terms of national voting intention, the Coalition leads
51.1
-
48.9
on two party preferred
from primary votes of
Labor 29.1%
,
Coalition 37.4%
,
Greens 12.7%
and
One Nation 9.1%
.


An excellent results display allows you to bring up each electorate’s results individually and download a full data set.

https://au.yougov.com/elections/au/2025
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Reply #147 - Feb 16th, 2025 at 10:51pm
 
It will be

Labor-Greens -Teals , with Greens and Teals reaming Labor
A disaster.

Liberals One Nation Libertarian.
One Nation and Libertarian to keep Dutton honest.

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Not Labor by a landslide - Labor IS the landslide.  If the people forget this treachery they are not worth saving....

One roll of the dice... if the Eld Gel and I don't sell and buy in a quiet spot for her - and me - closer to requirements..... and we still sell up and then go into rental with cash in the bank - I'm leaving Australia - like I should have done in the early 1970's.... one year to go I said to my then Professor gf who went to England - and I'm on that plane... just one more year to serve, baby, one more year than I deserve ...... shattered shoulder and then battling to get a living.... just slipped away, and nobody wants to know you.  Somewhere a wrong direction, I ran out of songs to play ....

Truly - I linked with a past gf (different) on DNA - we're related.... and she still hates my guts after fifty years for dropping her when I found out we were related ........  FFS... that was about it for me with this mad country.

So - maybe long overdue with the prof in England - or I've got a neurosurgeon in Switzerland.  Phark this mad house.
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The monthly
Resolve Strategic poll
for the Nine Newspapers offers
cold water for the notion that an interest rate cut might have improved Labor’s fortunes, giving the government its worst result for the term
: Labor is down two points on the
primary vote to
25%
, the Coalition is up one to
39%
, the Greens are steady on
13%
, and One Nation is up two to a new high of
9%


Having earlier shied away from two-party measures, the pollster is evidently now regularly publishing respondent-allocated figures, which in this case have
the Coalition lead blowing out from 52-48 to
55
-
45
.
Applying 2022 election preference flows would have it at 53-47.

There are only slight movements on leadership ratings, with Anthony Albanese and Peter Dutton both up a point on both approval and disapproval, Albanese to 37% approval and 58% disapproval and Dutton to 41% approval and 51% disapproval.
Dutton leads
39
-
35
as preferred prime minister
, out from 39-34. The poll was conducted Tuesday (the day of the rate cut) to Sunday from a sample of 1506.
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This is abysmal for Labor.

They should have removed Albo last year.

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The fortnightly Essential Research records little change on voting intention, with an increased Coalition result among women cancelling out a drop among men.
Labor is down a point to
29%
with the
Coalition steady on
35%
, the
Greens up one to
13%
and
One Nation down one to
8%
.

The
Coalition nudges ahead on the 2PP
+ measure, now leading
48
-
47
after a 48-48 result last time.

Leadership ratings that normally come monthly are included for the second fortnight in a row, with
Anthony Albanese down two on approval to
41%
and
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The weekly Roy Morgan poll did not replicate the surge to Labor it recorded last week, with the Coalition recording a
50.5
-
49.5
two-party lead
on respondent-allocated preferences, compared with a 51-49 Labor lead last time.

The primary vote were
Labor
28.5%
(down three),
Coalition
40%
(up three-and-a-half),
Greens
13.5%
(steady) and
One Nation
4%
(down one).


The result on previous election preference flows was 50-50, after Labor led 53-47 last week. The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1673.
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I predict Labor's downfall this time around - a one-term disaster on all fronts.

We desperately need a new party to actually govern Australia for Australians and not everybody else. 

First stop - cut off the hormone treatments for immigration causing countless transaustralians to appear in their total immaturity about our way of life and living....

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Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 6th, 2025 at 12:32pm:
I predict Labor's downfall this time around - a one-term disaster on all fronts.

We desperately need a new party to actually govern Australia for Australians and not everybody else. 

First stop - cut off the hormone treatments for immigration causing countless transaustralians to appear in their total immaturity about our way of life and living....

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I don't see either major party getting 75+1 seats.

It will be a minority government.

The LNP will probably get the most seats but not 75+1.
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Frank wrote on Mar 6th, 2025 at 1:37pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Mar 6th, 2025 at 12:32pm:
I predict Labor's downfall this time around - a one-term disaster on all fronts.

We desperately need a new party to actually govern Australia for Australians and not everybody else. 

First stop - cut off the hormone treatments for immigration causing countless transaustralians to appear in their total immaturity about our way of life and living....

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I can't see the Coalition gaining 23 seats.
They have 53. Need 75+1 to govern.




I only predict the Untergang of Labor - not the Rise Of The Other Party Machine.

You all know by now I want none of the parties.
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Reply #159 - Mar 11th, 2025 at 11:54am
 
Meanwhile, as Trump creates a recession and Albo pays out for failed airlines and steel mills, there will be a lot of grumpy investors out there in May.

What's that old saying?

"Sell in May and go away."  Wink
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A Freshwater Strategy poll conducted for the News Corp papers points to a combined
5% swing against the teal independent
members in Wentworth, Warringah, Mackellar, Goldstein, Kooyong and Curtin
, which
if uniform would return all but Warringah and Wentworth to the Liberal Party.


No further detail on voting intention was provided beyond the fact that the incumbents’ primary votes had “largely held up”, but
the Liberals had gained potentially decisive support at the expense of Labor and the Greens.


Anthony Albanese and Peter Dutton were tied 39-all on preferred prime minister, and
42%
said they would support their MP backing a Labor minority government
against
47%
who said they wouldn’t.
The poll was conducted last Wednesday to Friday from a sample of 830.
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Libs will bleed more seats to the teals as they have nothing to offer  Smiley
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Labor majority government wrote Yesterday at 9:47am:
Libs will bleed more seats to the teals as they have nothing to offer  Smiley


Yet the poll above indicates a potential 4 seat gain to the Libs.
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