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Reply #30 - Oct 1^st, 2024 at 9:55pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 1^st, 2024 at 9:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 1^st, 2024 at 9:14pm:

Maybe this is why Bibi is invading Lebanon -
he has to stop the source of rockets as Israel is running out of Iron Dome missiles?

Can Iron Dome stand up to Hizballah's arsenal? with Ali Abunimah

At 2000 rockets a year and a 100k a piece and in some cases requiring two of them the israelis will be running low by now which explains the ground invasion and them desperate to drag the US into it by egging on Iran. Won't happen though. Iran just has to sit back and eat popcorn and watch their stockpile of rockets being launched at israel from a remote location !!

That's right sir Nail.

more here:

Oct 1, 2024 1 hour ago:

William Hague: This is Netanyahu’s crucial mistake in tackling Iran

Iran vs Israel: Military strengths and weaknesses compared | Col. Simon Diggins OBE

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 107509 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The ground war begins - Lebanon Reply #31 - Oct 1^st, 2024 at 10:22pm The Iranians might do a nuclear test: jump to 8:45. Analysis: 'Big ask' for Israel to get to the Litani River \| Israel-Hezbollah conflict
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Reply #32 - Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 12:32am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 1^st, 2024 at 1:43pm:

Warmongers with blood on their hands.

Jovial Monk,

QUESTION;
Why is it, ....that you do NOT directly identify that group ?

Those who you disparage, in your post ???

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ISLAM - IS THE CULT WHICH ENCOURAGES,
AND WORSHIPS....DEATH
AND MAKES MURDER >> 'LAWFUL' << ....

"We love death."

Don't believe me ?.......

Quote:

"We love death.
The US loves life.
That is the difference between us two."

- Osama bin Laden, November 2001

Quote:

"The Jews love life, .....they love life and we love death."

Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

Quote:

".....On the one hand, Israeli culture values life in all its aspects, including the sanctity of the life of others. Their soldiers take risks to spare civilians on the other side, unprecedented in the history of warfare. Aware of Israeli inhibitions, Jihadi groups use their own people as human shields in fighting the Israelis.
Over the last few years, these Jihadi groups have developed a full-blown death cult in which they raise their children to want to die killing others."

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"We have discovered how to hit the Jews where they are the most vulnerable. The Jews love life, so that is what we shall take away from them. We are going to win, because they love life and we love death."

Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

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"Our blood is cheap compared with the cause which has brought us together and which at moments separated us, but shortly we will meet again in heaven…"

Yasser Arafat (Maariv, Oct. 4, 1996)

Quote:

"Why do other people love life, while we love death and violence, slaughter and suicide, and [even] call it heroism and martyrdom?"

Tunisian intellectual Al-Afif Al-Akhdar

Those "...we love death" quotes, above, were sourced here...
http://www.theaugeanstables.com/2006/08/02/501/

WWW search....

jihad - "we love death"

WWW search....

muslims "we love death"

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AND MORE....

THERE ARE >> ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS TEXTS << WHICH URGE FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM,
TO WELCOME WAR AND CONFLICT AGAINST DISBELIEVERS.....
.....IN THE CAUSE OF ALLAH [aka JIHAD]

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"SEEKING DEATH, FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH"

< ---- from the Koran

THE DEATH CLAUSE IN THE CONTRACT, OF ALLEGIANCE TO ALLAH's RELIGION...

"Say: "...If ye think that ye are friends to Allah, to the exclusion of (other) men, then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!" "
Koran 62.06

n.b.
Koran 62.06 is admonishing the believer, that his only true love, in this life [if he is a true moslem], is to die, fighting in Allah's cause. !!!

as per........
"O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter.
Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things."
Koran 9.38, 39

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: The ground war begins - Lebanon
Reply #33 - Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 12:41am

Hezbollah Reaches Out To U.S. For Advice On How To Govern With A Dead Leader

BERUIT — Following the death of their leader Hassan Nasrallah, members of the militant group Hezbollah asked the U.S. for advice on how to govern with a dead leader.
"It's a unique problem," Senior Whitehouse staffer George Corinado commented. "We've been managing for almost four years now but it does come with some specific problems. These guys are resourceful though, they'll figure it out."

As of publishing time, Hezbollah announced they would be asking the U.S. to send over Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib to replace Nasrallah due to her extensive experience running Hezbollah in America.

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Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.

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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 8647	Re: The ground war begins - Lebanon Reply #34 - Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 5:19am We saw news on tv here in Greece, hubby says “it’s begun!” And we’re ages away from home! Might get stuck here? Times like this I want to be home near family in Oz
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Re: The ground war begins - Lebanon
Reply #35 - Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 5:38am

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-10-1-24-int...

The Israeli military estimated that Iran fired 180 “projectiles,”

but stressed that it was not the final count. CNN teams saw dozens of missiles over the cities of Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and Haifa. CNN’s Jim Sciutto said he saw multiple missiles intercepted. Meanwhile, Jordan’s military said in a statement that “hundreds of Iranian missiles were launched toward Israel,” citing a military source in its armed forces general command. Some Iranian missiles made direct impact in central and southern Israel, an Israeli military spokesperson said.

No injuries reported as people bunkered: Sirens blared in Israel as people were told to bunker as the missiles came down, including the Israeli security cabinet, according to an Israeli source. There were no injuries following Iran’s attack, Israel Defense Forces spokesperson Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-october-1-2024/

Israelis told they can leave shelters after Iranian attack of 180 ballistic missiles
IDF vows to ‘strike powerfully’ in Mideast tonight

Palestinian reported killed by shrapnel in West Bank

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Re: The ground war begins - Lebanon
Reply #36 - Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 6:32am

The damage is being covered up:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iran-claims-90-of-its-missiles-hit-...

Iran’s paramilitary Revolutionary Guard says 90 percent of the missiles
it launched against Israel hit their targets successfully.

The statement broadcast on state TV claims the attack targeted air and radar bases as well as security apparatus that planned the killing of senior Hamas and Hezbollah figures.

It says Iran has a right to defend itself under international regulations. The TV station shows footage of missiles being launched in the darkness from unidentified locations in Iran.

Despite the hundreds of missiles, the only injuries in Israel were two people who were lightly wounded by shrapnel in Tel Aviv. A Palestinian man was killed by shrapnel near Jericho.

A number of impact sites have been identified across Israel, with images of missile fragments circulating on social media.
The exact locations of such impacts and damage are barred from publication by the IDF censor.

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Re: The ground war begins - Lebanon
Reply #37 - Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 6:41am

According to the Jerusalem Post Iran fired at Israel about 400 missiles.
Iran's sources claimed 500 with 80% got through.

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The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) claims that a military base and gas platforms in the Mediterranean were among the targets hit by Iranian missiles.

Some of the Iranian missiles hit the Netzarim region of the Gaza Strip, “hitting a large number” of Israeli tanks, the IRIB TV channel reports.

The Iranian agency Shafaqna claims that more than 20 Israeli 5th generation F-35 fighters were destroyed as a result of Iran’s missile attack

- sounds like bs.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 107509 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The ground war begins - Lebanon Reply #38 - Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 6:45am Watch The Israeli Iron Dome failed to intercept any of the Iranian missiles hitting military bases in Israel. 2 short videos: https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1841169134916419731 There are certainly missiles hitting the ground and exploding - but I can't tell where.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: The ground war begins - Lebanon Reply #39 - Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 6:46am Photos of remnants of Iranian rockets West Bank, near Jericho.
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Re: The ground war begins - Lebanon
Reply #40 - Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 6:47am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 6:45am:

Watch

The Israeli Iron Dome failed to intercept any of the Iranian missiles hitting military bases in Israel.

2 short videos:
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1841169134916419731

There are certainly missiles hitting the ground and exploding -
but I can't tell where.

Iran begging Israel to let them have this fake propaganda victory.

Who are they trying to fool?

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Re: The ground war begins - Lebanon
Reply #41 - Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 6:48am

tallowood wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 6:41am:

According to the Jerusalem Post Iran fired at Israel about 400 missiles.
Iran's sources claimed 500 with 80% got through.

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The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) claims that a military base and gas platforms in the Mediterranean were among the targets hit by Iranian missiles.

Some of the Iranian missiles hit the Netzarim region of the Gaza Strip, “hitting a large number” of Israeli tanks, the IRIB TV channel reports.

The Iranian agency Shafaqna claims that more than 20 Israeli 5th generation F-35 fighters were destroyed
as a result of Iran’s missile attack

- sounds like bs.

The F-35s are stored underground in bunkers so that does sound like bullshit. Undecided

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: The ground war begins - Lebanon Reply #42 - Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 6:50am The spent booster stage of the heavy (and relatively old) Iranian “Emad”, the consequences of the regular MBB department are visible.
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Re: The ground war begins - Lebanon
Reply #43 - Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 6:55am

MattE wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 6:47am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 6:45am:

Watch

The Israeli Iron Dome failed to intercept any of the Iranian missiles hitting military bases in Israel.

2 short videos:
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1841169134916419731

There are certainly missiles hitting the ground and exploding -
but I can't tell where.

Iran begging Israel to let them have this fake propaganda victory.

Who are they trying to fool?

For internal consumption plus for others as attempt to save reputation after decimation of Hezbollah leadership.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: The ground war begins - Lebanon Reply #44 - Oct 2^nd, 2024 at 6:58am Anyway there are not much damage on photos above, Iranians may have to put extra fuel in missiles to make the distance at the expense of explosive payload. Or it could be remnants of decoy missiles.
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