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Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:30pm

How, with all the modern navigation equipment could the Kiwis have a hydrographic ship sink near Samoa? These ships are specifically designed and equipped to chart undersea topography. No mention of engine or other equipment failures that I’ve read. I bet the Captain loses his job.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-06/new-zealand-navy-ship-runs-aground-off-sa...

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Reply #1 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:35pm

wow - diversity, equity and inclusion. WTF?

NZ navy ship sinks while commanded by carpet muncher.

https://x.com/captivedreamer7/status/1842716785541558508

Competency Crisis? New Zealand Naval ship HMNZS Manawanui runs around off Samoa and sinks -
lesbian Yvonne Gray's first command after resettling with her "wife" in NZ in 2012

https://www.contactairlandandsea.com/2024/10/06/hmnzs-manawanui-hits-reef-and-si...

HMNZS Manawanui hits reef and sinks off Samoa

06/10/2024

Royal New Zealand Navy Ship HMNZS Manawanui hit a reef off the southern coast of Upolu, Samoa, on Saturday evening while the ship was conducting a reef survey.

FILE PHOTO (July 2020): HMNZS Manawanui at sea for the first time under Royal New Zealand Navy Control, in the Hauraki Gulf. NZDF photo.

Photos circulating on social media today show the ship listing heavily and emitting smoke.

New Zealand Maritime Component Commander Commodore Shane Arndell said all crew and passengers from the ship were rescued in the early hours of Sunday morning.

“The 75 crew and passengers on board HMNZS Manawanui have made it to safety in Samoa and are being supported in Samoa or on supporting vessels,” Commodore Arndell said.

“The 75 left the ship in life rafts and sea boats after the ship grounded.

“New Zealand Defence Force worked closely with Maritime New Zealand’s Rescue Coordination Centre (RCCNZ) which coordinated rescue efforts.

“Several vessels responded and assisted in rescuing crew and passengers.

“A Royal New Zealand Air Force P-8A Poseidon was also deployed.”

Commodore Arndell said the incident occurred on Saturday evening while conducting a hydrographic survey 1 nautical mile from shore.

“The 75 crew and passengers began evacuating into lifeboats at 7.52 pm on Saturday 5 October,” he said.

“Rescuers battled currents and winds that were pushing the life rafts and sea boats toward the reefs, and swells made the rescue effort particularly challenging.

“We are very grateful for the assistance of everyone involved, from RCCNZ who coordinated rescue efforts, to the vessels which responded and took our crew and passengers from Manawanui to safety.

“At this stage the exact cause of the grounding is unknown and this will need further investigation.

“At 6.40am Sunday, the ship was listing heavily and smoke was visible from the ship.

At 9am it was known to have capsized and was below the surface.

“NZDF is working with authorities to understand the implications and minimise the environmental impacts.”

https://www.asiaone.com/world/new-zealand-navy-ship-sinks-samoa-all-75-onboard-s...

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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #2 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:35pm:

wow - diversity, equity and inclusion. WTF?

NZ navy ship sinks while commanded by carpet muncher.

https://www.nzdf.mil.nz/assets/Uploads/Blog/Manawanui-Photo-3__FocusFillWyItMC4w...

https://x.com/captivedreamer7/status/1842716785541558508

Competency Crisis? New Zealand Naval ship HMNZS Manawanui runs around off Samoa and sinks -
lesbian Yvonne Gray's first command after resettling with her "wife" in NZ in 2012

https://www.contactairlandandsea.com/2024/10/06/hmnzs-manawanui-hits-reef-and-si...

https://www.contactairlandandsea.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/hmnzs_manawanui....

HMNZS Manawanui hits reef and sinks off Samoa

06/10/2024

Royal New Zealand Navy Ship HMNZS Manawanui hit a reef off the southern coast of Upolu, Samoa, on Saturday evening while the ship was conducting a reef survey.

FILE PHOTO (July 2020): HMNZS Manawanui at sea for the first time under Royal New Zealand Navy Control, in the Hauraki Gulf. NZDF photo.

Photos circulating on social media today show the ship listing heavily and emitting smoke.

New Zealand Maritime Component Commander Commodore Shane Arndell said all crew and passengers from the ship were rescued in the early hours of Sunday morning.

“The 75 crew and passengers on board HMNZS Manawanui have made it to safety in Samoa and are being supported in Samoa or on supporting vessels,” Commodore Arndell said.

“The 75 left the ship in life rafts and sea boats after the ship grounded.

“New Zealand Defence Force worked closely with Maritime New Zealand’s Rescue Coordination Centre (RCCNZ) which coordinated rescue efforts.

“Several vessels responded and assisted in rescuing crew and passengers.

“A Royal New Zealand Air Force P-8A Poseidon was also deployed.”

Commodore Arndell said the incident occurred on Saturday evening while conducting a hydrographic survey 1 nautical mile from shore.

“The 75 crew and passengers began evacuating into lifeboats at 7.52 pm on Saturday 5 October,” he said.

“Rescuers battled currents and winds that were pushing the life rafts and sea boats toward the reefs, and swells made the rescue effort particularly challenging.

“We are very grateful for the assistance of everyone involved, from RCCNZ who coordinated rescue efforts, to the vessels which responded and took our crew and passengers from Manawanui to safety.

“At this stage the exact cause of the grounding is unknown and this will need further investigation.

“At 6.40am Sunday, the ship was listing heavily and smoke was visible from the ship.

At 9am it was known to have capsized and was below the surface.

“NZDF is working with authorities to understand the implications and minimise the environmental impacts.”

https://www.asiaone.com/world/new-zealand-navy-ship-sinks-samoa-all-75-onboard-s...
https://www.asiaone.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_top_image/public/orig...

I really don’t think investigators will spend any time on her sexual orientation. Grow up.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104959 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship Reply #3 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:48pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:43pm: I really don’t think investigators will spend any time on her sexual orientation. Grow up. Learn how to remove quoted text. forgiven namaste
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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #4 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:48pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:43pm:

I really don’t think investigators will spend any time on her sexual orientation. Grow up.

Learn how to remove quoted text.

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I’m on my iPad on holidays, not my computer at home with a keyboard, so it’s harder to do!

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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #5 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:57pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:48pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:43pm:

I really don’t think investigators will spend any time on her sexual orientation. Grow up.

Learn how to remove quoted text.

forgiven

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I’m on my iPad on holidays, not my computer at home with a keyboard, so it’s harder to do!

Don't worry - you have been forgiven.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11481 armidale Gender:	Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship Reply #6 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:58pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:43pm: on Saturday evening while the ship was conducting a reef survey. 'Hey git us some more fersh un cherps' 'Jerst finishh thish one.. 'Two shmall ones barman..mek thet lerge ones' 'Yihh, giz ther bottle thanksh..'
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25941 Gender:	Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship Reply #7 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 4:02pm Not meaning to offend any Kiwis on this forum, but after Helen Clarke gutted the Air Force by disbanding their fighter jet squadrons, the NZ defence force has become a joke. They’re basically defenceless now thanks to Clarke.
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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #8 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 4:04pm

chimera wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:58pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:43pm:

on Saturday evening while the ship was conducting a reef survey.

'Hey git us some more fersh un cherps'
'Jerst finishh thish one..
'Two shmall ones barman..mek thet lerge ones'
'Yihh, giz ther bottle thanksh..'

Utt us good usn't utt?

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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #9 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 4:11pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 4:02pm:

Not meaning to offend any Kiwis on this forum, but after Helen Clarke gutted the Air Force by disbanding their fighter jet squadrons, the NZ defence force has become a joke. They’re basically defenceless now thanks to Clarke.

The Kiwis don't have a single jet fighter.

They are completely defenceless.

They only ever had old A4 Skyhawks - sold off in 2001.

https://airforcemuseum.co.nz/aircraft/mcdonnell-douglas-ta-4k-skyhawk-nz6254/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disbandment_of_the_RNZAF_air_combat_force

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104959 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship Reply #10 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 5:39pm In some ways NZ are military parasites on Australia - they expect Australia to help them if they are invaded and don't put up the money for their own defence nor to help us. They are getting a free ride.
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25941 Gender:	Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship Reply #11 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 7:24pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 5:39pm: I some ways NZ are military parasites on Australia - they expect Australia to help them if they are invaded and don't put up the money for their own defence nor to help us. They are getting a free ride. Tonga could probably mount a successful invasion of Kiwiland!
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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #12 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 7:28pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 5:39pm:

In some ways NZ are military parasites on Australia -

they expect Australia to help them if they are invaded and don't put up
the money for their own defence nor to help us.
They are getting a free ride.

Tonga could probably mount a successful invasion of Kiwiland!

The Chinese might invade there first -
it would take less than 1 day. Embarrassed

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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #13 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 7:39pm

It is a damn good thing Australian ships never leave shore base or Australia would have the same problem.

Remember drunken Duncan the captain of the HMAS Voyager which was cut in two by aircraft carrier HMAS Melbourne in a nighttime exercise collision.

At least the New Zealanders didn't cut their ship in half.

Australian ships have been instructed not to leave port under any circumstances since that incident.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11481 armidale Gender:	Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship Reply #14 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 7:53pm The successful attack on Voyager was a text-book 'great white shark' ramming tactic. The painted teeth on Yank planes inspired the jagged fangs on the aircraft carrier. It's hoped the method will sort out the Chinese navy boys.
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