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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #15 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 8:33pm

Maybe she was boppin' along to a song...
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But I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be

Then she put up her hands, the white flag above her door, finally abandoned ship. Still in love but won't be commanding a canoe.

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25941 Gender:	Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship Reply #16 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 8:37pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 7:39pm: Australian ships have been instructed not to leave port under any circumstances since that incident. You really are not very bright, are you?
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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #17 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 8:42pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 8:33pm:

Maybe she was boppin' along to a song...
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But I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be

Then she put up her hands, the white flag above her door, finally abandoned ship. Still in love but won't be commanding a canoe.

Setanta has raised his caftan and more.

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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #18 - Oct 7^th, 2024 at 10:39am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 8:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 8:33pm:

Maybe she was boppin' along to a song...
Quote:

But I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be

Then she put up her hands, the white flag above her door, finally abandoned ship. Still in love but won't be commanding a canoe.

Setanta has raised his caftan and more.

That's a very poofy thing to say.

Not that ..... Embarrassed

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84611 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship Reply #19 - Oct 7^th, 2024 at 12:19pm I didn't know they had one............. past gf was the daughter of a NZ Captain - I think it was Achilles.....
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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #20 - Oct 8^th, 2024 at 9:42am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:35pm:

wow - diversity, equity and inclusion. WTF?

NZ navy ship sinks while commanded by carpet muncher.

https://www.nzdf.mil.nz/assets/Uploads/Blog/Manawanui-Photo-3__FocusFillWyItMC4w...

https://x.com/captivedreamer7/status/1842716785541558508

Competency Crisis? New Zealand Naval ship HMNZS Manawanui runs around off Samoa and sinks -
lesbian Yvonne Gray's first command after resettling with her "wife" in NZ in 2012

https://www.contactairlandandsea.com/2024/10/06/hmnzs-manawanui-hits-reef-and-si...

https://www.contactairlandandsea.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/hmnzs_manawanui....

HMNZS Manawanui hits reef and sinks off Samoa

06/10/2024

Royal New Zealand Navy Ship HMNZS Manawanui hit a reef off the southern coast of Upolu, Samoa, on Saturday evening while the ship was conducting a reef survey.

FILE PHOTO (July 2020): HMNZS Manawanui at sea for the first time under Royal New Zealand Navy Control, in the Hauraki Gulf. NZDF photo.

Photos circulating on social media today show the ship listing heavily and emitting smoke.

New Zealand Maritime Component Commander Commodore Shane Arndell said all crew and passengers from the ship were rescued in the early hours of Sunday morning.

“The 75 crew and passengers on board HMNZS Manawanui have made it to safety in Samoa and are being supported in Samoa or on supporting vessels,” Commodore Arndell said.

“The 75 left the ship in life rafts and sea boats after the ship grounded.

“New Zealand Defence Force worked closely with Maritime New Zealand’s Rescue Coordination Centre (RCCNZ) which coordinated rescue efforts.

“Several vessels responded and assisted in rescuing crew and passengers.

“A Royal New Zealand Air Force P-8A Poseidon was also deployed.”

Commodore Arndell said the incident occurred on Saturday evening while conducting a hydrographic survey 1 nautical mile from shore.

“The 75 crew and passengers began evacuating into lifeboats at 7.52 pm on Saturday 5 October,” he said.

“Rescuers battled currents and winds that were pushing the life rafts and sea boats toward the reefs, and swells made the rescue effort particularly challenging.

“We are very grateful for the assistance of everyone involved, from RCCNZ who coordinated rescue efforts, to the vessels which responded and took our crew and passengers from Manawanui to safety.

“At this stage the exact cause of the grounding is unknown and this will need further investigation.

“At 6.40am Sunday, the ship was listing heavily and smoke was visible from the ship.

At 9am it was known to have capsized and was below the surface.

“NZDF is working with authorities to understand the implications and minimise the environmental impacts.”

https://www.asiaone.com/world/new-zealand-navy-ship-sinks-samoa-all-75-onboard-s...
https://www.asiaone.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_top_image/public/orig...

I really don’t think investigators will spend any time on her sexual orientation. Grow up.

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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #21 - Oct 8^th, 2024 at 11:05am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:35pm:

wow - diversity, equity and inclusion. WTF?

NZ navy ship sinks while commanded by carpet muncher.

Holey, sunken ship, Bobby...

Could you even consider the possibility that the megalodon (confirmed sighting) is actively migrating near the waters of Samoa?

Nothing to do with carpet cleaners not having spatial awareness.

You realise that the way you are going the heterophobes are going to have a field day with playing with the emotions of the majority of Australians. Sick of the wokeness going on since 2010. Don't provoke it further. Let's remove the excuses that the "enthusiastic homosexual people" have with using illicit drugs.

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At this stage...

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship Reply #22 - Oct 8^th, 2024 at 11:07am The ship's crew is safe and unharmed, that's good.
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11481 armidale Gender:	Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship Reply #23 - Oct 8^th, 2024 at 11:11am No worries, Polynesian navigators used wayfinding techniques such as the navigation by the stars, and observations of birds, ocean swells, and wind patterns.
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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #24 - Nov 30^th, 2024 at 8:57pm

A New Zealand Navy ship captained by a lesbian ran aground and sank off the coast of Samoa last month as a result of human error, including failure to turn off autopilot, a damning report has found.

Woke DEI - it'll cost ya!

After the sinking of the ship which was one of just nine in the New Zealand Navy and the first lost at sea since World War 2, Captain Gray’s position as commander came into question after it was revealed she had been promoted amid a push for diversity and inclusion in the Defence Force.

She was lauded in a June 2023 New Zealand Department of Defence press release celebrating her and three other female commanders, in which one gushed about a culture change in the navy due to a “focus on diversity, equity and respect for personnel”.

You wouldn't want to join such a defence force.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11481 armidale Gender:	Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship Reply #25 - Nov 30^th, 2024 at 9:14pm The ship had a basic crew of 39. The lady steered the wheel and the 38 others cooked fersh ernd cherps and switched on the autopilot.
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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #26 - Nov 30^th, 2024 at 9:25pm

Frank wrote on Nov 30^th, 2024 at 8:57pm:

A New Zealand Navy ship captained by a lesbian ran aground and sank off the coast of Samoa last month as a result of human error, including failure to turn off autopilot, a damning report has found.

Woke DEI - it'll cost ya!

After the sinking of the ship which was one of just nine in the New Zealand Navy and the first lost at sea since World War 2, Captain Gray’s position as commander came into question after it was revealed she had been promoted amid a push for diversity and inclusion in the Defence Force.

She was lauded in a June 2023 New Zealand Department of Defence press release celebrating her and three other female commanders, in which one gushed about a culture change in the navy due to a “focus on diversity, equity and respect for personnel”.

You wouldn't want to join such a defence force.

It's the patriarchy wot did it.

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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #27 - Nov 30^th, 2024 at 9:35pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

How, with all the modern navigation equipment could the Kiwis have a hydrographic ship sink near Samoa? These ships are specifically designed and equipped to chart undersea topography. No mention of engine or other equipment failures that I’ve read. I bet the Captain loses his job.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-06/new-zealand-navy-ship-runs-aground-off-sa...

I think that sort of gear tends to be sideways and rear looking. There is not need to have it looking forward, and no need to use it in navigation. You could drive that thing into a brick wall and it wouldn't see it coming. That's what the captain is for.

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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #28 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 6:24am

Hydrography is not sonar navigation. The captain is not on duty or even awake 24/7. Captains aren't always officer of watch. It's been 2 months and the captain wasn't suspended.

ahh..'They were the officer in control of the ship, an officer supervising that person, and the ship's commanding officer.'
The captain was there but not actively in control. The three wise men....

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Re: Kiwis have lost a navy ship
Reply #29 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 8:54am

If China make it into Oceania and onto New Zealand. It would be a peaceful tame occupation, as NZ would submit on peaceful terms as the Chinese know that it has already been colonised by its yellow brethren Maori.
Asia and Oceania are more friends than foes.
A lot of Oceanian nations have made good connections with Asian nations like China.

Australia, being a part of Sahul, is a different story.

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