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Israel's invasion of Lebanon 'guarranted to fail'
Oct 6th, 2024 at 4:51pm
 
Says John Mearsheimer. Also, he's asked if Julian Assange's accusations of a CIA plot to assassinate him in the Ecuadoran embassy are credible. He replies, yes indeed, Assange is an 'existential threat' to the CIA (from the 22nd minute):



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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Re: Israel's invasion of Lebanon 'guarranted to fail'
Reply #1 - Oct 6th, 2024 at 5:03pm
 
I reckon Israel is finished - the Muslims have had enough of them.

If every Muslim nation joined up they could put an army of over 1 million on Israel's borders.
It would take 1 hour to overrun Israel.
Israel is too small - no strategic depth.
The Arabs could shell the Israeli military airports with old WW1 artillery from the borders of Israel -
no more Israeli air force - their trump card.

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Reply #2 - Oct 6th, 2024 at 5:29pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 5:03pm:
I reckon Israel is finished - the Muslims have had enough of them.



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The United Arab Emirates deported a Palestinian student for shouting “Free Palestine” and wearing a keffiyeh during a graduation ceremony in Abu Dhabi.

The UAE has banned all public displays of support for Palestine and considers Hamas a terrorist organization.

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1842606626844647439


We should deport terrorist supporters
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Reply #3 - Oct 6th, 2024 at 5:33pm
 
The Jews are bombing hospitals.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c30lj9m300vo

Lebanon hospitals close as Israeli strikes hit health facilities


21 hours ago
Joel Gunter

Reporting from Beirut

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At least four hospitals in Lebanon announced on Friday that they were suspending work because of Israeli strikes, while a Hezbollah-affiliated health organisation said that
11 paramedics had been killed in the past 24 hours.


The four closures capped two weeks of Israeli strikes on hospitals and healthcare workers in Lebanon that have shuttered at least 37 facilities and
killed dozens of medical staff,
according to the World Health Organisation.

Late on Friday night, the Israeli army issued a statement alleging that Hezbollah was using medical vehicles to transport fighters and weapons, warning that it would strike any vehicle it suspected of being used for military purposes.

Hospital staff in southern Lebanon told the BBC that health facilities treating wounded civilians had been hit with direct Israeli strikes. The BBC has approached the IDF for comment.

Dr Mounes Kalakish, director of the Marjayoun governmental hospital in southern Lebanon, told the BBC that the hospital had no choice but to close on Friday after an airstrike hit two ambulances at the hospital’s entrance way on Friday, killing seven paramedics.

“The nurses and doctors were terrified,” he said. “We tried to calm them and carry on working, but it was not possible.”

The emergency director of the hospital, Dr Shoshana Mazraani, said she was sitting at the front of the building when the strike happened. She said that she heard the cries of the paramedics who were hit and ran towards the damaged ambulances, but was warned to stay back by colleagues fearful of a follow up strike.

The Marjayoun hospital had already been hanging on by a thread, Dr Mazraani said, with a core team of just 20 doctors remaining from the centre’s usual 120 staff. The closure on Friday was a “tragedy for the region”, she said.

“We serve a huge population here, many villages. We had 45 inpatient beds, all now empty. We were the only hospital providing dialysis in the region, for example. We have had to turn away emergency patients and tell others to leave.”

Rita Suleiman, the nursing director at the Saint Therese hospital, on the edge of Beirut’s southern suburbs, told the BBC that the hospital had also struggled on after being badly damaged by a strike on Friday but was later forced to suspend all services.

The Israeli army said it was targeting a mosque adjacent to the hospital which it claimed was being used by Hezbollah fighters.

The strikes on healthcare facilities have not been limited to the south of Lebanon. Israel hit a medical centre in central Beirut on Thursday belonging to the Hezbollah-linked Islamic Health Organisation, killing nine and wounding 14. The Israeli army said the strike targeted "terror assets".

The Lebanese Red Cross said on Thursday that four of its paramedics were wounded in a strike on a convoy evacuating patients, despite the organisation co-ordinating with the Israeli army.

Gabriel Karlsson, country manager in Beirut for the British Red Cross, told the BBC: "Health and aid workers must be able to help those in need without fearing for their own safety. Teams from the Red Cross and Red Crescent are a lifeline, supporting communities tirelessly - they must be protected.”

World Health Organisation director general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said on Thursday that
28 healthcare workers had been killed in Lebanon over the previous 24 hours,

and many other healthcare staff were no longer reporting for work because of the strikes.
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Reply #4 - Oct 6th, 2024 at 8:43pm
 
Bobby, it’s been proven time and time again that Hamas and Hezbollah use hospitals (ans well as apartment buildings and other civilian infrastructure such as schools) and the people in them as human shields to store weapons, people and to plan and conduct attacks from. Israel has warned them to evacuate many times ahead of strikes. If you refuse to accept these facts, that’s your problem, but stop persisting with this blatant lie that Israel is deliberately targeting hospitals and killing everyone in them, because it just isn’t true.
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Reply #5 - Oct 6th, 2024 at 10:15pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 5:29pm:
The United Arab Emirates deported a Palestinian student for shouting “Free Palestine” and wearing a keffiyeh during a graduation ceremony in Abu Dhabi.

The UAE has banned all public displays of support for Palestine and considers Hamas a terrorist organization.




Then the UAE's leaders are deluded.

Palestinians have every right under International Law to resist the illegal occupation of their land:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1714668349

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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Reply #6 - Oct 6th, 2024 at 10:17pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 8:43pm:
...it’s been proven time and time again that Hamas and Hezbollah use hospitals (ans well as apartment buildings and other civilian infrastructure such as schools) and the people in them as human shields to store weapons, people and to plan and conduct attacks from.


That's just Israeli propaganda:

“I’m sick and tired of these [Israeli] claims that there are Hamas command centers [in hospitals],” Norwegian physician Dr. Mads Gilbert told Al-Jazeera.


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Reply #7 - Oct 6th, 2024 at 10:35pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 10:15pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 5:29pm:
The United Arab Emirates deported a Palestinian student for shouting “Free Palestine” and wearing a keffiyeh during a graduation ceremony in Abu Dhabi.

The UAE has banned all public displays of support for Palestine and considers Hamas a terrorist organization.




Then the UAE's leaders are deluded.

Palestinians have every right under International Law to resist the illegal occupation of their land:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1714668349



Gaza was occupied by Egypt from 1948-1967

Israel took Gaza in 1967 6 day war.

Israel gave Gaza back in 2006. There have been no jews in Gaza since 2006 they even dug up and removed jewish graves.

Gaza was run by hamas since 2006 it wasn't occupied.

Egypt has a border with Gaza
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Sheikh Issa Salem, leader of the Sinai Arab Sheikhs, explains to EAF General what he would do if a Palestinian trespasses into Egypt.

Any thoughts on why he came to that conclusion? 🤔
https://x.com/egy_atheist/status/1838965074704183606


Back to Hezbollah

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Arab League denies softening stance on Hezbollah terror label


The meeting was the first of its kind since the Lebanese Shia group was declared by the Arab League as a "terrorist organisation" in 2016.

https://www.newarab.com/news/arab-league-denies-softening-stance-hezbollah-terro...



Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists which is what their fellow muslims call them.
Why do you support Islamic terrorists are you retarded?


The enemy of your enemy is not your friend which has been pointed out in this thread- https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1728136079
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Reply #8 - Oct 7th, 2024 at 6:00am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 10:35pm:
...Gaza was run by hamas since 2006 it wasn't occupied.


The International Court of Justice (ICJ) yesterday issued its advisory opinion in its case examining the legal consequences of Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territory, ruling that Israel’s persistent occupation and discriminatory policies have no legal justification and therefore violate international law.

The ICJ had already ruled in 2004 that all of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, remained “occupied territories” under international law...

In its ruling issued yesterday, the ICJ determined that Israel’s continued occupation of Gaza and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, is “unlawful”, and that Israel is therefore obligated under international law to end its occupation “as rapidly as possible”.


https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2024/07/20/icj-declares-israels-occupation-illega...

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Any thoughts on why he came to that conclusion?


Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi has said that the current war was not just aimed at fighting Hamas, but also an attempt to push civilians to migrate to Egypt, and warned this could wreck peace in the region.

Jordan’s King Abdullah has said much the same, “No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt.”

Their concern is that Israel wants to force a permanent expulsion of Palestinians into their countries and nullify Palestinian demands for statehood. El-Sissi also said a mass exodus would risk bringing militants into Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula, from where they might launch attacks on Israel, endangering the two countries’ decades-long peace treaty.

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Back to Hezbollah


Hamas and Hezbollah would not exist if it weren't for Zionism:

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Reply #9 - Oct 7th, 2024 at 9:26am
 
The Jewish homeland experiment is a failure.

Israeli Jews have imprisoned themselves with their hate.

Hate is a self-destructive force as Setanta, Bvr, and their ilk can confess.
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Reply #10 - Oct 8th, 2024 at 1:05pm
 
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One hundred Israeli warplanes carried out a large-scale strike on Shiite Hezbollah targets in southern Lebanon, RIA Novosti reports, citing an IDF statement. The airstrikes lasted an hour and targeted more than 120 targets.

According to the Israeli army press service, the strikes were carried out "based on precise military intelligence data" on various Hezbollah units, including its regional units, the elite Radwan unit, the rocket force and the intelligence directorate.


There will be no Hezbollah left by time "Israel's invasion of Lebanon fail".

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Reply #11 - Oct 8th, 2024 at 2:43pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Oct 7th, 2024 at 6:00am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 10:35pm:
...Gaza was run by hamas since 2006 it wasn't occupied.



The ICJ had already ruled in 2004 that [b]all of the Gaza Strip .....

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Any thoughts on why he came to that conclusion?



Jordan’s King Abdullah has said much the same, “No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt.”



Israel gave Gaza back in 2006 why are you citing something from 2004 are you stupid or ignorant?

Egypt outlawed the muslim brotherhood as a terrorist group it originated in Egypt. Hamas Covenant says they're muslim brotherhood.

Jordan took in Palestinian refugees they tried to overthrow the monarchy which is why they don't want them.

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Black September (Arabic: أيلول الأسود Aylūl al-ʾAswad), also known as the Jordanian Civil War,[9] was an armed conflict between Jordan, led by King Hussein, and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), led by chairman Yasser Arafat. The main phase of the fighting took place between 16 and 27 September 1970, though certain aspects of the conflict continued until 17 July 1971.

After the 1967 Six-Day War, Palestinian fedayeen guerrillas relocated to Jordan and stepped up their attacks against Israel and what had become the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

The PLO's strength grew, and by early 1970, leftist groups within the PLO began calling for the overthrow of Jordan's Hashemite monarchy, leading to violent clashes in June 1970.Hussein hesitated to oust them from the country, but continued PLO activities in Jordan culminated in the Dawson's Field hijackings of 6 September 1970. This involved the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) seizing three civilian passenger flights and forcing their landing in the Jordanian city of Zarqa, where they took foreign nationals as hostages and blew up the planes in front of international press. Hussein saw this as the last straw and ordered the Jordanian Army to take action.[10]

On 17 September 1970, the Jordanian Army surrounded cities with a significant PLO presence, including Amman and Irbid, and began targeting fedayeen posts that were operating from Palestinian refugee camps.

However, the Jordanian military attacked again in January 1971, and the fedayeen were driven out of the cities, one by one, until 2,000 surrendered after they were encircled during the Ajlun offensive on 23 July, formally marking the end of the conflict.[11]

Jordan allowed the fedayeen to relocate to Lebanon via Syria, where they later became involved in the Lebanese Civil War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September





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Reply #12 - Oct 8th, 2024 at 7:25pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 8th, 2024 at 2:43pm:
wombatwoody wrote on Oct 7th, 2024 at 6:00am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 6th, 2024 at 10:35pm:
...Gaza was run by hamas since 2006 it wasn't occupied.



The ICJ had already ruled in 2004 that [b]all of the Gaza Strip .....

Quote:
Any thoughts on why he came to that conclusion?



Jordan’s King Abdullah has said much the same, “No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt.”



Israel gave Gaza back in 2006 why are you citing something from 2004 are you stupid or ignorant?

Egypt outlawed the muslim brotherhood as a terrorist group it originated in Egypt. Hamas Covenant says they're muslim brotherhood.

Jordan took in Palestinian refugees they tried to overthrow the monarchy which is why they don't want them.

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Black September (Arabic: أيلول الأسود Aylūl al-ʾAswad), also known as the Jordanian Civil War,[9] was an armed conflict between Jordan, led by King Hussein, and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), led by chairman Yasser Arafat. The main phase of the fighting took place between 16 and 27 September 1970, though certain aspects of the conflict continued until 17 July 1971.

After the 1967 Six-Day War, Palestinian fedayeen guerrillas relocated to Jordan and stepped up their attacks against Israel and what had become the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

The PLO's strength grew, and by early 1970, leftist groups within the PLO began calling for the overthrow of Jordan's Hashemite monarchy, leading to violent clashes in June 1970.Hussein hesitated to oust them from the country, but continued PLO activities in Jordan culminated in the Dawson's Field hijackings of 6 September 1970. This involved the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) seizing three civilian passenger flights and forcing their landing in the Jordanian city of Zarqa, where they took foreign nationals as hostages and blew up the planes in front of international press. Hussein saw this as the last straw and ordered the Jordanian Army to take action.[10]

On 17 September 1970, the Jordanian Army surrounded cities with a significant PLO presence, including Amman and Irbid, and began targeting fedayeen posts that were operating from Palestinian refugee camps.

However, the Jordanian military attacked again in January 1971, and the fedayeen were driven out of the cities, one by one, until 2,000 surrendered after they were encircled during the Ajlun offensive on 23 July, formally marking the end of the conflict.[11]

Jordan allowed the fedayeen to relocate to Lebanon via Syria, where they later became involved in the Lebanese Civil War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September







They’re citing something from 2004 because it’s the only way that can justify their flawed logic. It’s that same flawed thinking the NRA uses when they say guns don’t kill people, people do.
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Reply #14 - Oct 9th, 2024 at 12:14pm
 
Israel is not intending to occupy Lebanon - simply destroy Hezbollah and stop the rockets.  Doing a great job so far.  If the Lebanese government can't control the situation - sort of like Alice Springs - perhaps the military will have to go in again.

What is stupid about this is that it costs lives and misery for many just to satisfy the madness of a few Muslim fanatics.

You should be working towards getting them to stop their war on Israel.
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