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Reply #30 - Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:51pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:41pm:
Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:34pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:05pm:
The right have always been going the wrong way, they much prefer it.


I was a Leftist just to be contrary. I was against everything but Soviet-line leftism. But I just got tired of losing arguments.

I'm hoping the US right get the same experience. I hope they retire to just being conservative and realize the US has not lurched to the left. Democrats are left of center, practically by definition. Our Labor party is left of center. The effective reponse to that, is to take a moderate right (conservative) position ... not to take a far right position led by internet demagogues.

When it comes right down to it, you have to get elected to wield the power of government. Far right or far left, only gets you a moulty Senator.


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realize the US has not lurched to the left.


In the US the left is just left compared to the right and not left of centre, the US have two parties of the right a centre right and a far right. The US have no left to lurch to.


While I agree with that, it's a bit "external" to politics as they happen in the US.

Republicans consider Biden "far left" and even Obama "far left." They seriously believe that the repeal of Obamacare would make the US a better place.

Well maybe for them. "To hell with you all, I want my tax cut" isn't a far right idea. It's mainsteam right (which is to say, 270 electoral college votes.)

These people could still win on Nov 5th. Very few of them will get what they want: they're fixated on what they DON'T want.
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Reply #31 - Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:59pm
 
Consequences of tariffs:

Inflation
Collapse of retailers of foreign goods
Collapse of manufacturers who rely on foreign goods
Disruption of business as a whole, and thence
Recession

25% tariffs had bad effects. But Trump is promising 100% tariffs, including on some products from trading partners like Mexico. 200% from products from China.

It's economic insanity, but Trump will do it anyway. Any of his staff who tell him it's a bad idea, will get the boot.
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Reply #32 - Oct 9th, 2024 at 10:04pm
 
And before Trump says "this is the recession we had to have" he should take a kind word from ex-PM Keating.

Just no. Don't say that.
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Re: The hatred of extreme left-wing agitators and part
Reply #33 - Oct 10th, 2024 at 12:10am
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 8:20pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 3:54pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:25am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 8th, 2024 at 7:41pm:
"Who continually takes the against side of:
Any topic about Muslims ?
Any topic about Homosexuals
Any Topic about Aboriginals
Any Topic about any race
Any Trans Topic. etc"


The mad lovey-dovey types... they take the against side on proper control of Muslim often outrageous and vastly illegal behaviour;  they take the against side to Israel's legitimate need to defend itself and its people from the most vile acts in recent history; refuse to see that most don't GAR about poofs etc and are sick of the Poof Wars On Society based on their personal issues; they take the against side on any genuine effort to rectify Aboriginal problems of their own making; take the against side against anything of White race; accept with alacrity and lack of thought the very basic ideas of chopping people and especially children on the basis of purported 'feelings'....

I will happily take the against side against any of those current social atrocities that are destroying this nation and its people - and not least against those who somehow feel Entitled™ to impose their final solution of these matters on all others.

Justice Is Coming!


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Israel's legitimate need to defend itself


Killing over 40,000 innocent people trying ethnically cleanse palestine while having little to no impact on Hamas is not only their own atrocity but can only achieve the opposite of their claimed intent. They have created a situation where the next 5 generations will be continuing this fight. Creating more enemies is not a solution.

Most people clearly see that the Hamas atrocities should be condemned and prosecuted they also should see that Israeli atrocities should face the same condemnation and penalties.

This situation is wrong V wrong, there is no right here at all.


Crap. Nonsense. Only moral cripples - and there are millions of you - see (ie invent) equivalence to defend evil.

Nobody would be dead if Hamas, elected and supported by Gazans, had not carried out a massive pogrom a year ago and then scuttled back to Gaza to hide among and be hidden by civilians in civiian facilities. Nobody.


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Nobody would be dead


Israel have been keeping Palestine in the worlds largest open air prison for about 70 years they have been continually opening new settlements (stealing more and more palestinian land and displacing palestinians for decades). They have been killing hundreds of Palestinians about 600 between 2007 and when Hamas attacked, yes the ADF have been killing palestinians for decades. The fact is that had Hamas done nothing palestinians would still have been killed.

A stupid lie.

There is no 'open air prison'. There is relentless Paolo terrorism and rejection of Israel's right to exist.
There have been countless pallo terrorist atracatracckjs since 2006, many suicide attacks. The families of the 'martyrs' are glorified and paid by Western aid money.

There is no Palestine and Palestinian land. There is occupied territories that belong to no recognised, existing state. The Pallos could have had a state by now on those territories but they have rejected every single offer of statehood because accepting one would  mean accepting the existence of Israel. They are not prepared to do that.

They spend a huge proportion of international aid money on terrorist infrastructure and weapons instead of building civil and social infrastructure.

Many other countries were created after WWII. The Pallos are the only ones who are still 'refugees' 75 years later BECAUSE they are refusing any and all settlement that includes the recognition and acceptance of Israel.

They are bring this mystery onto themselves every time they attack Israel. And they are moronic enough to be Iran's pawns this time around.  They share the Islamic fanaticism. So I say, bugger 'em, in the most caring and nurturing way possible.



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Re: The hatred of extreme left-wing agitators and part
Reply #34 - Oct 10th, 2024 at 12:38am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 12:10am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 8:20pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 3:54pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:25am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 8th, 2024 at 7:41pm:
"Who continually takes the against side of:
Any topic about Muslims ?
Any topic about Homosexuals
Any Topic about Aboriginals
Any Topic about any race
Any Trans Topic. etc"


The mad lovey-dovey types... they take the against side on proper control of Muslim often outrageous and vastly illegal behaviour;  they take the against side to Israel's legitimate need to defend itself and its people from the most vile acts in recent history; refuse to see that most don't GAR about poofs etc and are sick of the Poof Wars On Society based on their personal issues; they take the against side on any genuine effort to rectify Aboriginal problems of their own making; take the against side against anything of White race; accept with alacrity and lack of thought the very basic ideas of chopping people and especially children on the basis of purported 'feelings'....

I will happily take the against side against any of those current social atrocities that are destroying this nation and its people - and not least against those who somehow feel Entitled™ to impose their final solution of these matters on all others.

Justice Is Coming!


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Israel's legitimate need to defend itself


Killing over 40,000 innocent people trying ethnically cleanse palestine while having little to no impact on Hamas is not only their own atrocity but can only achieve the opposite of their claimed intent. They have created a situation where the next 5 generations will be continuing this fight. Creating more enemies is not a solution.

Most people clearly see that the Hamas atrocities should be condemned and prosecuted they also should see that Israeli atrocities should face the same condemnation and penalties.

This situation is wrong V wrong, there is no right here at all.


Crap. Nonsense. Only moral cripples - and there are millions of you - see (ie invent) equivalence to defend evil.

Nobody would be dead if Hamas, elected and supported by Gazans, had not carried out a massive pogrom a year ago and then scuttled back to Gaza to hide among and be hidden by civilians in civiian facilities. Nobody.


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Nobody would be dead


Israel have been keeping Palestine in the worlds largest open air prison for about 70 years they have been continually opening new settlements (stealing more and more palestinian land and displacing palestinians for decades). They have been killing hundreds of Palestinians about 600 between 2007 and when Hamas attacked, yes the ADF have been killing palestinians for decades. The fact is that had Hamas done nothing palestinians would still have been killed.

A stupid lie.

There is no 'open air prison'. There is relentless Paolo terrorism and rejection of Israel's right to exist.
There have been countless pallo terrorist atracatracckjs since 2006, many suicide attacks. The families of the 'martyrs' are glorified and paid by Western aid money.

There is no Palestine and Palestinian land. There is occupied territories that belong to no recognised, existing state. The Pallos could have had a state by now on those territories but they have rejected every single offer of statehood because accepting one would  mean accepting the existence of Israel. They are not prepared to do that.

They spend a huge proportion of international aid money on terrorist infrastructure and weapons instead of building civil and social infrastructure.

Many other countries were created after WWII. The Pallos are the only ones who are still 'refugees' 75 years later BECAUSE they are refusing any and all settlement that includes the recognition and acceptance of Israel.

They are bring this mystery onto themselves every time they attack Israel. And they are moronic enough to be Iran's pawns this time around.  They share the Islamic fanaticism. So I say, bugger 'em, in the most caring and nurturing way possible.





Look, it's true that Palestinians have spent too much of the foreign aid on building missiles and tunnels.

But not all. And remember that Israel has blocked some of the aid (for instance cement) which has dual purpose. Far fewer civilians could have died from airstrikes (which have been ongoing, as long as rocket attacks on Israel have been ongoing). Israel bombs apartment blocks, then claims success because the terrorist might have been at home when his family was killed. And to return to my point, there is no need for a Hellfire missile to kill thirty people. The buildings are just rubbish, and you can't blame international aid for that. Only Israel.
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Re: The hatred of extreme left-wing agitators and part
Reply #35 - Oct 10th, 2024 at 3:42am
 
Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 12:38am:
Frank wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 12:10am:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 8:20pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 3:54pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2024 at 9:25am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 8th, 2024 at 7:41pm:
"Who continually takes the against side of:
Any topic about Muslims ?
Any topic about Homosexuals
Any Topic about Aboriginals
Any Topic about any race
Any Trans Topic. etc"


The mad lovey-dovey types... they take the against side on proper control of Muslim often outrageous and vastly illegal behaviour;  they take the against side to Israel's legitimate need to defend itself and its people from the most vile acts in recent history; refuse to see that most don't GAR about poofs etc and are sick of the Poof Wars On Society based on their personal issues; they take the against side on any genuine effort to rectify Aboriginal problems of their own making; take the against side against anything of White race; accept with alacrity and lack of thought the very basic ideas of chopping people and especially children on the basis of purported 'feelings'....

I will happily take the against side against any of those current social atrocities that are destroying this nation and its people - and not least against those who somehow feel Entitled™ to impose their final solution of these matters on all others.

Justice Is Coming!


Quote:
Israel's legitimate need to defend itself


Killing over 40,000 innocent people trying ethnically cleanse palestine while having little to no impact on Hamas is not only their own atrocity but can only achieve the opposite of their claimed intent. They have created a situation where the next 5 generations will be continuing this fight. Creating more enemies is not a solution.

Most people clearly see that the Hamas atrocities should be condemned and prosecuted they also should see that Israeli atrocities should face the same condemnation and penalties.

This situation is wrong V wrong, there is no right here at all.


Crap. Nonsense. Only moral cripples - and there are millions of you - see (ie invent) equivalence to defend evil.

Nobody would be dead if Hamas, elected and supported by Gazans, had not carried out a massive pogrom a year ago and then scuttled back to Gaza to hide among and be hidden by civilians in civiian facilities. Nobody.


Quote:
Nobody would be dead


Israel have been keeping Palestine in the worlds largest open air prison for about 70 years they have been continually opening new settlements (stealing more and more palestinian land and displacing palestinians for decades). They have been killing hundreds of Palestinians about 600 between 2007 and when Hamas attacked, yes the ADF have been killing palestinians for decades. The fact is that had Hamas done nothing palestinians would still have been killed.

A stupid lie.

There is no 'open air prison'. There is relentless Paolo terrorism and rejection of Israel's right to exist.
There have been countless pallo terrorist atracatracckjs since 2006, many suicide attacks. The families of the 'martyrs' are glorified and paid by Western aid money.

There is no Palestine and Palestinian land. There is occupied territories that belong to no recognised, existing state. The Pallos could have had a state by now on those territories but they have rejected every single offer of statehood because accepting one would  mean accepting the existence of Israel. They are not prepared to do that.

They spend a huge proportion of international aid money on terrorist infrastructure and weapons instead of building civil and social infrastructure.

Many other countries were created after WWII. The Pallos are the only ones who are still 'refugees' 75 years later BECAUSE they are refusing any and all settlement that includes the recognition and acceptance of Israel.

They are bring this mystery onto themselves every time they attack Israel. And they are moronic enough to be Iran's pawns this time around.  They share the Islamic fanaticism. So I say, bugger 'em, in the most caring and nurturing way possible.





Look, it's true that Palestinians have spent too much of the foreign aid on building missiles and tunnels.

But not all. And remember that Israel has blocked some of the aid (for instance cement) which has dual purpose. Far fewer civilians could have died from airstrikes (which have been ongoing, as long as rocket attacks on Israel have been ongoing). Israel bombs apartment blocks, then claims success because the terrorist might have been at home when his family was killed. And to return to my point, there is no need for a Hellfire missile to kill thirty people. The buildings are just rubbish, and you can't blame international aid for that. Only Israel.



I am not blaming international aid.
I blame Pallos for misusing international aid.

You give Pallos ANY degree of autonomy and they will build tunnels, fire rockets and pay suicide bombers - with international aid money.




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Reply #36 - Nov 9th, 2024 at 4:55pm
 
Sudan’s civil war has left at least 62,000 dead by our estimate − but the true figure could be far higher


https://theconversation.com/sudans-civil-war-has-left-at-least-62-000-dead-by-ou...


You never hear about this from the lefty mongs because no Jews are involved.
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Reply #37 - Nov 9th, 2024 at 5:39pm
 

Muslims attack Israeli soccer fans in Amsterdam






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Reply #38 - Nov 10th, 2024 at 10:54am
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 5:39pm:
Muslims attack Israeli soccer fans in Amsterdam








Pogrom in the Netherlands:
At least ten people are injured and three others, ominously, are missing in Amsterdam Friday after rampaging mobs of Muslim migrants hunted down and beat Jews on the street after a soccer match between Maccabi Tel Aviv and Ajax Amsterdam. The establishment media initially cast this as a case of violence among soccer hooligans. The New York Times’ headline was “Violence Tied to Soccer Game Prompts Dozens of Arrests in Amsterdam.” But it was something much worse than that.
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it was clear who the attackers were. Geert Wilders noted that they were “Muslims with Palestinian flags hunting down Jews.” The New York Post reported that “Israeli soccer fans were ambushed and brutally assaulted in Amsterdam overnight Thursday by gangs of anti-Israel thugs shouting ‘Free Palestine.’”
https://pjmedia.com/robert-spencer/2024/11/08/pogrom-in-the-netherlands-muslim-m...


The Jihad has been well and truly globalised. The attackers were Muslim migrants whom the Dutch government, like governments all over Europe, Australia and North America, have welcomed in large numbers in recent years.



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Reply #39 - Nov 10th, 2024 at 2:13pm
 
Here is the news from The Old Dart .... 'secret meeting'.... clearly they under-estimated MI5 and the police - I've already thanked the Poms for the heads-up:-


https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/pro-palestine-mobs-plan-to-disturb-armi...

Pro-Palestine protesters are planning to 'swarm' cities across the UK and disturb Armistice Day events with a series of 'highly coordinated' protests, it was claimed last night.

Youth Demand, which stemmed from the student branch of Just Stop Oil, is plotting to hold anti-Israel demonstrations in five cities next week.

At a secret meeting in London on Saturday, organisers told the crowd how the group were trying to cause major disruption on November 11 - a day when Britain will pay their respects to those who sacrificed their lives for the country.

More than 50 activists attended the 'Politics is Broken: People's Assembly & After Party' event at a swanky bar in London, where Just Stop Oil members also attended.

Youth Demand activist Arthur Clifton, who attended the £26,000-a-year Latymer Upper School, told cheering eco-zealots: 'This is the start of our strategy coming into place on November 11."

'With five cities across the country, Youth Demand will be getting out onto the roads, swarming, causing disruption [and] getting off before arrests are made, hopefully.'

In secret footage from the meeting obtained by The Express, Clifton, 23, added that the demonstrations would mean 'highly coordinated, highly organised disruption on a nationwide level'.

The group, which campaigns to 'stop the UK arming Israel', is also plotting to throw Black Friday into chaos on November 29."
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