Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 9
th, 2024 at 5:50pm:
Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 9
th, 2024 at 2:16pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 9
th, 2024 at 1:08pm:
Well - there are no Palestinians....... do try to keep up. There are Gazans and whatever you want to call the Bankies in Syria... but there was no Palestine nation and thus no Palestinians.
Bluster all you like - you are still wrong.
So when Saddam invaded Kuwait in 1990, for a while there were no Kuwaitis.
Logically correct, or not?
No - Kuwaitis in exile persisted... Israel was Israel 4000 years ago and Hebrews/Israelites never left it, same as aborigines here - there have been successive waves of invaders, just like here - at the re-establishment of Israel, the Invaders were offered a choice of citizenship and co-operation - most of them refused it and waged war instead. Palestine as a nation never existed, which is why I call them Gazans and Bankies.
Even our present day aborigines are the result of countless waves of Invasion - not one lot by any stretch of the imagination.. and therefore should be referred to by their singular Tribal title, same as North American Indians should be addressed by their Tribe - not as Aborigines other than in a general sense, which means no capital letter = aborigines - or heaven forbid - Indigenous when everyone born here is Indigenous... though I suppose you may use indigenous to describe the Earlier Invaders.....
It's all up for discussion...
What an excellent answer! I knew there must be thoughtful people on this forum, and now I have met one of them.
However, Palestine did exist. It only existed under British protection, and was recognized by the League of Nations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
Modern arguments that "Palestine does not exist" are based on the lack of United Nations recognition. This is entirely Security Council bullshit, because 146 of the 193 UN nations do actually recognize it as a nation.
Saying it does not exist, is part and parcel of Gaza and the West Bank living under colonial rule.
Palestinians are stateless people, if it so pleases you. But if so, they can be refugees "without reciprocity" meaning they cannot be deported to some non-existent state. That is, they have advantages which other refugees do not have.
Lets be clear about this: their previous history sucks. They should be front of the queue as humanitarian refugees.