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Reply #15 - Oct 11th, 2024 at 5:17pm
 
mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2024 at 7:37am:
Frank wrote on Oct 11th, 2024 at 12:32am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 10:36pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 9:55pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 11:54am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 11:51am:


Great news story. 

I wonder if the usual suspects will claim to be victims of this somehow like other stories about tourism in areas that they can link to indigenous people.


.. sucking tourists away from the Opera House, Porgy and Bess, they are.... typical....      Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy    Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



You're such a victim...


Well, truth be told - when you have seen one stick, you have seen them all.

The only mildly interesting thing about Aboriginal artefacts is to realise how amazingly long they could remain so stagnant and utterly primitive.





I remain utterly unsurprised that all you've considered of our First Nation's story is relegated to a stick.

In all of your long life, nobody ever thought to teach you better.

Some understanding of course is given owing to the fact that absolutely nothing of First Nation culture was taught in schools until relatively recently ... so you missed out.

As did most commentators on this forum. You got taught what you were taught in school and you never bothered expanding upon it. That much is plainly evident in absolutely everything you all have to say.

Fortunately for the rest of us, there is a wonderfully expansive world that if we are open, can be taught to us through the oldest contiguous people on the planet. There is both an incredibly wealthy mythology and local understanding of the world around us. There is an intricate and desperately fought for familial lineage that holds an abundance of history and relevance.

Imagine, coexisting that long without absolutely @&#$ing everything up!

So much value to the world. To humanitarians and scholars. To futurists and historians.

And you lot. You are the dead set peanut gallery.


Well, whatever they taught you in school, the meaning of 'contiguous' wasn't in the syllabus.

You are trying to use big words to show off your supposed education but you just reveal your snobbish ignorance. You strive to seem nuanced and educated but you aren't.

There is no rich Aboriginal history. Their mythol our is not particularly interesting or revealing or insightful. It is primitive pre-historic, pre-civilisational tales like every other primitive tribal mythology. Their total lack of curiosity, the actual, active rejection of change for millennia, ossified into their myths, rituals and minds, is remarkable in its mysery-producing persistence.
Their violence, superstitions are hideous.
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Reply #16 - Oct 11th, 2024 at 6:01pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 11th, 2024 at 1:16pm:
Would you like to explain the "jackie-jackie" comment?

When it's something you've said, that I'm not familiar with, it's usually a racial slur.

If it's not in this case, I apologise.



Do some research.
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Reply #17 - Oct 11th, 2024 at 6:15pm
 
methra, fearless defender of FTLW in hir madness and ravings as the sock hse is, wasn't eddicated in our schools... hshe's a Pom...

'Hshe' indicates there is nothing positive to show man or woman... just another blind canyon on the internetn ad most likely a fake anyway...  could be anyone - but what you can guarantee is hir ultra-left vacuous views driving entirely on emotion without reason or fact ....

Got a few of those here - at least Smith is a simpleton who prefers insult to reasoned discussion ... LTYC is just the village idiot who we all just laugh at...

Darkly methra said once: "Do you know who I am?" ....  response - WGAF - just another anonymous fool on the internet with nothing to contribute but silly comments of a personal nature.

Who is Jackie-Jackie?
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Re: Aboriginal tourism experiences boom in NSW
Reply #18 - Oct 11th, 2024 at 10:29pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 11th, 2024 at 5:17pm:
mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2024 at 7:37am:
Frank wrote on Oct 11th, 2024 at 12:32am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 10:36pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 9:55pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 11:54am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 11:51am:


Great news story. 

I wonder if the usual suspects will claim to be victims of this somehow like other stories about tourism in areas that they can link to indigenous people.


.. sucking tourists away from the Opera House, Porgy and Bess, they are.... typical....      Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy    Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



You're such a victim...


Well, truth be told - when you have seen one stick, you have seen them all.

The only mildly interesting thing about Aboriginal artefacts is to realise how amazingly long they could remain so stagnant and utterly primitive.





I remain utterly unsurprised that all you've considered of our First Nation's story is relegated to a stick.

In all of your long life, nobody ever thought to teach you better.

Some understanding of course is given owing to the fact that absolutely nothing of First Nation culture was taught in schools until relatively recently ... so you missed out.

As did most commentators on this forum. You got taught what you were taught in school and you never bothered expanding upon it. That much is plainly evident in absolutely everything you all have to say.

Fortunately for the rest of us, there is a wonderfully expansive world that if we are open, can be taught to us through the oldest contiguous people on the planet. There is both an incredibly wealthy mythology and local understanding of the world around us. There is an intricate and desperately fought for familial lineage that holds an abundance of history and relevance.

Imagine, coexisting that long without absolutely @&#$ing everything up!

So much value to the world. To humanitarians and scholars. To futurists and historians.

And you lot. You are the dead set peanut gallery.


Well, whatever they taught you in school, the meaning of 'contiguous' wasn't in the syllabus.

You are trying to use big words to show off your supposed education but you just reveal your snobbish ignorance. You strive to seem nuanced and educated but you aren't.

There is no rich Aboriginal history. Their mythol our is not particularly interesting or revealing or insightful. It is primitive pre-historic, pre-civilisational tales like every other primitive tribal mythology. Their total lack of curiosity, the actual, active rejection of change for millennia, ossified into their myths, rituals and minds, is remarkable in its mysery-producing persistence.
Their violence, superstitions are hideous.


I'm sorry that your understanding of the use of the word "contiguous" is as anaemic as your understanding of Aboriginal culture, history and mythology, fruitbat, but you really shouldn't just sound off from a position of absolute ignorance.

You've been doing a whole lot of that lately and it's really making you look quite the fool.

What am i saying, you've always been a fool.
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Re: Aboriginal tourism experiences boom in NSW
Reply #19 - Oct 11th, 2024 at 10:45pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 6:39pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 10th, 2024 at 2:58pm:
Gullible tourists just love being guided by white Aboriginals.

A real Australian experience.

In the 2023/24 financial year, 801,900 people participated in an Aboriginal tourism experience, spending $3.2 billion.

Almost 290,000 of those people were domestic visitors, who spent about half a billion dollars — up almost 15 per cent on the previous year.


I spent a couple of days of NAIDOC Week looking at the artwork at both the Rockhampton Regional Library, and then over at the new Art Gallery. The artwork I saw was quite good. I did recognise some of the names on the paintings being that of the members of the immediate Capricorn region.

I bet these exhibits would outrank a lot of work in Sydney art galleries.
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Reply #20 - Oct 12th, 2024 at 7:44am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2024 at 6:01pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 11th, 2024 at 1:16pm:
Would you like to explain the "jackie-jackie" comment?

When it's something you've said, that I'm not familiar with, it's usually a racial slur.

If it's not in this case, I apologise.



Do some research.


I am directly asking you.

I’ve done my research, and it clearly ties back to Jackie Robinson, the trailblazer who shattered baseball’s colour barrier in 1947. Invoking his name drags us right back to the ugly, racist undercurrent of that era.

Now, you’re claiming it’s not about that? Fine. Then the burden is on you to explain, precisely and thoroughly, why this term was used.

So, enlighten us. Why do you feel the need to resort to a racial slur? And if that wasn’t your intention, then what exactly was it?
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Reply #21 - Oct 12th, 2024 at 7:49am
 
Never heard of that - it's just a common phrase for a person of colour .... nothing to do with anyone.

You don't reckon 'cobber' was derived from Charles Cobber, the Minnesotta blacksmith,do you?

Truly your mind wanders in strange ways.

Now then, Jackie-Jackie... I have no 'burden' to explain anything ... just is.... common usage you know - nothing to see here.
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Reply #22 - Oct 12th, 2024 at 7:59am
 
Now then, champ - you reckon you could come up with any VIABLE solutions to all the Abo problems - or would you rather just sit on the sidelines and try to big-note yourself by pursuing your betters?  You talk an awful big talk, Pilgrim ..... as long as ya can say somethin' nasty about someone ....but can ya walk the walk?

I know - let's see how you figure the lowering of the age of criminal responsibility in the NT will somehow make things worse - then we can hear your solution(s)... maybe that idea of fining parents whose kids run riot .... could help...

Remember Albo pre-election?  Told them out West that funding was reliant on improvements in Key Performance Indicators such as school attendance, youth crime, substance abuse, violence and domestic/family violence, and so forth.... then as soon as he was in the office, out came the chequebook and the easy money - and not one thing has changed out there to this day.

So - what are your answers, sunshine?
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Reply #23 - Oct 12th, 2024 at 8:53am
 
Some very creative accounting going on there.
A tourist takes the add on abo tour and they add up the entire cost of the holiday and say it's for boong spotting.

This is the reality.



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Reply #24 - Oct 12th, 2024 at 8:53am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 11th, 2024 at 5:17pm:
There is no rich Aboriginal history.



once again Frank highlights just how utterly ignorant he is on any subject Cheesy
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Reply #25 - Oct 12th, 2024 at 10:40pm
 
There is no rich Aboriginal history - life was short, nasty and brutish with perpetual conflicts and killing, all over extremely limited and hard to secure resources meaning that women and children were also killed rather than the behaviour of even the most low class pillagers and plunderers in history, who kept the pretty women... the diet was dismal, being of protein with little vegetable etc, leading to early death in most cases .... the 'history' of any given small group - just large enough for the territory to sustain, was one of simply wandering about in their 'territory' for as long as they could hold it until the next Aboriginal Napoleon came over the hill and established a New Empire by the spear and club... they still carry on ancient tribal blues in places like Wadeye where several groups are together and none will leave it to the others ... all very reminiscent of pre-Western South Africa which was described as a series of tribes perpetually bouncing off one another and all over the place with the Zulus making it all worse with their disciplined approach to tribal warfare.

Show Me The Spirits!  Say - at the headwaters, the whole area of which is suddenly 'a sacred site' so as to put in a bid for Cargo Pay and Royalties for gold extraction - well - at least until Plebeian Stick put a stop to the gold mine....  Show Me The Spirits!!

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Reply #26 - Oct 12th, 2024 at 10:49pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 12th, 2024 at 10:40pm:
There is no rich Aboriginal history - life was short, nasty and brutish with perpetual conflicts and killing, all over extremely limited and hard to secure resources meaning that women and children were also killed rather than the behaviour of even the most low class pillagers and plunderers in history, who kept the pretty women... the diet was dismal, being of protein with little vegetable etc, leading to early death in most cases .... <etc>


Your source for this libel?

Seems a lot like you're a "constructing" Aboriginal history from "Man The Hunter" mythology (which never applied in any stage of human history.) Aboriginal women also hunted small game like echidnas, and when they weren't doing that they gathered vegetables and roots, and processed them eg by pounding and washing, or by chewing.

What you fail to consider is the tens of thousands of years in which Aboriginal society had time to adjust to their environment. Women worked (as they did everywhere, always, even in Victorian England where your morality seems to come from) and presenting Aboriginal Australia as a world of hunters and stay-at-home wives, is both inane and deprecatory.

Too much for you? Just tell us why you believe Aborigines before the white man, were undernourished and short lived.
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Reply #27 - Oct 12th, 2024 at 10:56pm
 
Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 12th, 2024 at 10:49pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 12th, 2024 at 10:40pm:
There is no rich Aboriginal history - life was short, nasty and brutish with perpetual conflicts and killing, all over extremely limited and hard to secure resources meaning that women and children were also killed rather than the behaviour of even the most low class pillagers and plunderers in history, who kept the pretty women... the diet was dismal, being of protein with little vegetable etc, leading to early death in most cases .... <etc>


Your source for this libel?


Aboriginal history.........
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Reply #28 - Oct 12th, 2024 at 10:59pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 12th, 2024 at 10:56pm:
Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 12th, 2024 at 10:49pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 12th, 2024 at 10:40pm:
There is no rich Aboriginal history - life was short, nasty and brutish with perpetual conflicts and killing, all over extremely limited and hard to secure resources meaning that women and children were also killed rather than the behaviour of even the most low class pillagers and plunderers in history, who kept the pretty women... the diet was dismal, being of protein with little vegetable etc, leading to early death in most cases .... <etc>


Your source for this libel?


Aboriginal history.........


Of which I suppose you're a scholar.

Now for the others of us who haven't studied Aboriginal History like you have. Just give us some kind of source for Aboriginals being unhealthy from a deficient diet.
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Reply #29 - Oct 13th, 2024 at 12:24am
 
Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 12th, 2024 at 10:59pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 12th, 2024 at 10:56pm:
Aurora Complexus wrote on Oct 12th, 2024 at 10:49pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 12th, 2024 at 10:40pm:
There is no rich Aboriginal history - life was short, nasty and brutish with perpetual conflicts and killing, all over extremely limited and hard to secure resources meaning that women and children were also killed rather than the behaviour of even the most low class pillagers and plunderers in history, who kept the pretty women... the diet was dismal, being of protein with little vegetable etc, leading to early death in most cases .... <etc>


Your source for this libel?


Aboriginal history.........


Of which I suppose you're a scholar.

Now for the others of us who haven't studied Aboriginal History like you have. Just give us some kind of source for Aboriginals being unhealthy from a deficient diet.


No need - plain as day. The traditional diet was largely protein and little vegetable - a sure recipe for lack of health and early death - as was and remains the case.  Do you know how many of them die at forty from heart troubles?  Why is that?  Because they are immersed in a feast and famine feeding style, which was (as an Aboriginal I know said) 'lean meat', and a few yams and such... berries etc, but hardly a balanced diet.  So when they enter the land of Plenty, and there IS a more balanced diet of vegetables with meat and such - they still go for the high protein fried chicken and burgers and similar, and as a result still have a lower life expectancy.  The ongoing neglect of children in many cases also contributes to this ... heart disease is a complex set of issues... people who are often hungry when growing up develop a capacity to absorb and retain fat - so that often thin people can suffer serious heart problems ... when they grow up and can afford to eat, their body accepts that without question... after all - they once lived in Famine.... and they often die of what is called 'a silent heart attack'. 

In a SHA, the heart arteries just clog and the heart stops with little or no pain... I had an Aboriginal mate sit down for a little rest on a bench and just quietly pass away without a murmur... closed his eyes for a little rest and was gone.  42 years old. 

Much of that is diet.... and while better overall balanced nutrition in many cases extends life expectancy, many still die pretty young of heart artery problems and the imbalances often created by early disadvantage caused by neglect and abuse.

As I said - it's a very complex issue.

When you are ready - you may explain to the room why you believe Aboriginal life expectancy is still lower than The Rest.... go for it.  It's not just because they kill one another at hugely higher rates.....
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