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Reply #105 - Oct 16^th, 2024 at 6:26pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 5:22pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:54pm:

Ah! Our Aboriginal brethren have the same sort of ideas.

Actual First Nations members are indigenous Australian community leaders who work full-time jobs and try and keep the younger generation in line. Some work in emergency services. Some work in the hospital and diversionary system. Some are teachers. A few are actual lecturers. Many are sports coaches.

Other indigenous people can identify as whatever. It makes my head spin.

Wouldn't make your head spin if those Aboriginal ideas on acceptance and rite of passage were mandated by the stupid government instead of sucking their nuts all the time.

Sounds like a great idea to me - welcome to the University of Aboriginality - a.k.a. Survivor - Aboriginal Lifestyle.... or.....

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Who will pass the test? Who cares who wins......?

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #106 - Oct 16^th, 2024 at 8:16pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:03pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 12:31pm:

Only the British knew how to enforce law and order:
the cat of 9 tails,
the stocks,
the rope.

Are you suggesting we start using the rope on Indigenous children?

I'm suggesting we examine how the British maintained law and order back in the times of 1840
and implement their successful policies.

That's a very specific date range. Did you want to perhaps clarify what you mean by that so it doesn't get misinterpreted?

Bobby?

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #107 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 9:00am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:03pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 12:31pm:

Only the British knew how to enforce law and order:
the cat of 9 tails,
the stocks,
the rope.

Are you suggesting we start using the rope on Indigenous children?

I'm suggesting we examine how the British maintained law and order back in the times of 1840
and implement their successful policies.

murder thousands of inhabitants of a foreign land and send them there?

How did you fooken Eye-ties do in Ethiopia and a few other places?

does that discount what the poms did? Cheesy

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #108 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 11:15am

John Smith wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 9:00am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:03pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 12:31pm:

Only the British knew how to enforce law and order:
the cat of 9 tails,
the stocks,
the rope.

Are you suggesting we start using the rope on Indigenous children?

I'm suggesting we examine how the British maintained law and order back in the times of 1840
and implement their successful policies.

murder thousands of inhabitants of a foreign land and send them there?

How did you fooken Eye-ties do in Ethiopia and a few other places?

does that discount what the poms did? Cheesy

Lots of retaliation from settlers to murders and such? Hardly massacres of innocents... different times - different strokes.

Evil Intervention? They're still killing one another at an astronomical rate compared to ALL others in this country, and still neglecting and abusing, fighting ancient feuds like some mad Arab, and pretending to be fearless warriors and other gangstah rubbish, while waging a brushfire war against the civilisation that cradles them.

If their communities will raise ten year olds to not commit serious crimes - the ten year olds won't be suffering from an age of responsibility of ten, will they?

What is wrong with you people and your unthinking? Are your kids allowed to go out all night, steal cars, break into homes, home invade, carry weapons and use them for robberies etc, Smith? Did you raise them to think that such behaviour was the right thing to do?

Own up, now. Or stop being so stupid.

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Reply #109 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 11:35am

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 5:22pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:54pm:

Ah! Our Aboriginal brethren have the same sort of ideas.

Actual First Nations members are indigenous Australian community leaders who work full-time jobs and try and keep the younger generation in line.

But they too are up against a neoliberal economic system which is now pricing ordinary Australians out of affordable housing. The egregious social consequences of that decades-long in-the-making neoliberal market failure reinforce entrenched socio-economic disadvantage, despite the efforts of well-meaning poverty-industry workers.

Data reveals small number of property investors control big chunk of Australian rentals

"Mr Jericho said the data highlighted how many of the benefits of negative gearing and the capital gains discount went to the largest investors.

They are actually getting a much better average benefit from negative gearing than your more traditional mum-and-dad investors," Dr Jericho said.

"The system we have at the moment … it's really kind of geared towards assisting people who are able to borrow against [the] equity of one property to buy another property, and then to borrow against that and buy another property."

See what happens whn you ignore macro economic failure, and blame 'lack of personal responsibility' for criminal behaviour.

Lock'en up....at least they'll get 3 square meals a day and managed accommodation.

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Reply #110 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 11:39am

More up against their own unwillingness and inability to work out their own best way forward.

The great falsehood of that 'using equity to borrow for equity' is that it is based almost exclusively on PROJECTED equity. You simply cannot develop 'equity' in a property in two weeks... and use that to go buy another one.

It's the madness of the banks and is the root cause of most problems today, including inflation and poverty rise and homelessness - and is inevitably a doomed approach to banking.... but along the way some are reaping mighty benefits from the suffering of the many.

Cue dividie now to tell us that nobody has known that all along but his excellent self with all his robotic theory.

I diagnose autism and a need for acceptance and 'respect' which has never been forthcoming in his life to date....

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #111 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 12:08pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 1:59pm:

Although I am not an accredited psychologist, I can say with some authority that "thegreatdivide" is a genuine egomaniacal psychopath. The fact that he/she/it tries to hide behind a "woke personality" is evident of my accusation.

I'm exposing the sickness at the heart of your blind 'personal responsibility' ideology.

aka "the human condition": the psychosis resulting from a conflict between the conscioius rational brain (cortex) and the unconscious survival brain (reptilian and mammalian).

Predator animals unconsciously mark their territory as part of instinct-driven survival behaviour; humans are turned into desperately hate-filled genodical maniacs by the same instincts , all the while knowng the slaughter of children is "wrong"... yet still humans demand a veto over rule of law: "freedom" is more important than the life of a child. Psychosis, the human condition.

Now, what "authority" do you bring to your claims re my "woke personality" hiding a "psychopathic egomania"?

A classic case of the human condition; the pot calling the kettle black....and the slaughter of children continues unabated.

You have no insight into the human condition - that's what psychosis is.

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I am about ready to see "thegreatdivide" being banned from OzPol. Go to PoliticalAnimal and have Jasin babysit you. He is a lot smarter than you.

Fantasies of banning people who confront you with your own sickness....a Goebbel's speciality.

Jasin is suffering the same psychosis as all of us.

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #112 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 12:29pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 11:39am:

More up against their own unwillingness and inability to work out their own best way forward.

More? Yet the birthrate of white Australians who seek prosperity is falling because the cost of housing is incompatible with having more children.

Prosperity is not a consideration in poverty ghettos, which is why birth rates - and crime - remain high amongst black welfare recipients.

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The great falsehood of that 'using equity to borrow for equity' is that it is based almost exclusively on PROJECTED equity. You simply cannot develop 'equity' in a property in two weeks... and use that to go buy another one.

You can with negative gearing and capita gains tax policies in place for decades (though housing is now too expensive for new entrants ) - the neoliberal experiment to change home ownership from the public to the private sector.

Result: unaffordable housing, falling ownership rates, and extemely wealthy multi-property-owning landlords

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It's the madness of the banks and is the root cause of most problems today, including inflation and poverty rise and homelessness - and is inevitably a doomed approach to banking.... but along the way some are reaping mighty benefits from the suffering of the many.

You identified the wrong cause as usual: banks were and are merely operating in the neoliberal system designed to offload public housing, for ideological reasons (Thatcher's "other peoples' money" BS).

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Cue dividie now to tell us that nobody has known that all along but his excellent self with all his robotic theory.

There's a difference between agreeing about the sickness, and understanding its causes, as noted above.

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I diagnose autism and a need for acceptance and 'respect' which has never been forthcoming in his life to date....

Haha - you and Unsub....trying a bit of 'diagnosis' while being insightless, ideologically crippled, and not open to examination of causes.

Causing the classic ideological divide (and confusion over 'the enemy within' - a big topic in the US elections: is it Harris or Trump who is a "threat to democracy"?).

Deplorable.

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #114 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 12:38pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 8:16pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:03pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 12:31pm:

Only the British knew how to enforce law and order:
the cat of 9 tails,
the stocks,
the rope.

Are you suggesting we start using the rope on Indigenous children?

I'm suggesting we examine how the British maintained law and order back in the times of 1840
and implement their successful policies.

That's a very specific date range. Did you want to perhaps clarify what you mean by that so it doesn't get misinterpreted?

Bobby?

1840, 1810, 1860 - I don't know - it was in that century and a little before then.

We had law and order not like now.

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Reply #115 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 12:41pm

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Fantasies of banning people who confront you with your own sickness....a Goebbel's speciality.

Jasin is suffering the same psychosis as all of us.

Jasin is a lot smarter than you, and YOU don't even know it. Most of us here know how smart Jasin is, by comparison. There is myself and a few other posters on OzPol who are smarter than Jasin. However, Jasin is smarter than me in other ways. He knows when to shut up and when to talk.

You might be a student of my reverse psychology education. However, I have what must amount to 30 years of experience over the type of person you represent. I might have been a bit of a smart arse when I was 15 years old. But, 30 years later, 400 litres of excessive alcohol consumption, and 800 rounds of ammunition spent, either being shot by me or me being shot at by others, I don't play around with super woke liberals who hide behind computer screens.

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #116 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:00pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 12:29pm:

Hello again, thegreatdivide. The Australian military would still like to recruit the type of person you present as yourself. You don't have to tick the gender box these days. It is NO longer a question.

Upon completing your military academy training in Kapooka or Duntroon, you will be whisked away to the nearest military training base for further instruction on how you can handle domestic (national) war zones.

There will be plenty of time for you to speak up about the "insightless, ideologically crippled" veterans of domestic abuse cases. I happened to be a hostage negotiator for the Rockhampton region on two occasions. Had I been a computer hacker in recent years, or paid closer attention to the police radio, I could have single-handedly prevented the domestic violence of a mother and child last year, too.

However, I submit to your insightful comments on the economic system of Australia's politics. I look forward to my former commanding officer reporting back to me how well woke liberals do in the military.

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Reply #117 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:07pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 12:41pm:

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Fantasies of banning people who confront you with your own sickness....a Goebbel's speciality.

Jasin is suffering the same psychosis as all of us.

Jasin is a lot smarter than you, and YOU don't even know it.

Hey, I'm even prepared to admit Goebbel's was smarter than me...and certainly the lawyers attempting to develop international law on the basis of "legal war" are no doubt smarter than me, yet they are also the sick bunnies pulling their hair out as they watch the UN project proving itself powerless to stop the slaughter of children... so much for being "smart".

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Most of us here know how smart Jasin is, by comparison.

Nah - I already noted he's as psychotic as the rest of us, being an insightless member of the human race, satisfied the slaughter of children ranks behind "freedom".

So being "smart" doesn't fix the the dark angels of the human condition, obviously.

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There is myself and a few other posters on OzPol who are smarter than Jasin. However, Jasin is smarter than me in other ways. He knows when to shut up and when to talk.

Gawd: classic human lack of insight, talking about everthing except causes.

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You might be a student of my reverse psychology education.

I'm tempted to ask.."please explain" - I'm not that smart (and Pauline's an honest person at least...)

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However, I have what must amount to 30 years of experience over the type of person you represent. I might have been a bit of a smart arse when I was 15 years old. But, 30 years later, 400 litres of excessive alcohol consumption, and 800 rounds of ammunition spent, either being shot by me or me being shot at by others, I don't play around with super woke liberals who hide behind computer screens.

I see you are a tough nut to crack.

"Smart arse"?

Don't shoot the messenger, the pyschosis caused by 'the human condition' ie, the pyschosis caused by the freedom to act against instinct which controls other animals automatically and without self-examination, and is manifested by the endless slaughter of children in war - psychotic behaviour indeed - is prof. Jeremy Griffiths' observation.

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Reply #118 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:13pm

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Yet the birthrate of white Australians who seek prosperity is falling because the cost of housing is incompatible with having more children.

Back in 2012, when I first signed up to this forum site, there were a bunch of forum users who said much the same thing about white Australians. Except, where I am from, us "white Australians" tend to use the system of child endowment payments for their custodial upbringing for their children.

I know of two single women (unrelated to my earlier story) who raised 7 children. The women are both in their 20s and 30s. Both have my respect because they work longer hours than I do. However, they are okay with me, because they know that I paid off my required child support payments to the mothers of those daughters of mine. So, I am debt free.

Perhaps where you come from, the idea of having children is against your regional culture. Besides, the Labor government will happily import more immigrants from overseas to make sure that Australia keeps our metropolitan cities thriving, and house prices as high as possible.

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #119 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:35pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:07pm:

Hey, I'm even prepared to admit Goebbel's was smarter than me...and certainly the lawyers attempting to develop international law on the basis of "legal war" are no doubt smarter than me, yet they are also the sick bunnies pulling their hair out as they watch the UN project proving itself powerless to stop the slaughter of children... so much for being "smart".

I don't want to have to re-apply for the army and be assigned the rank of Colonel, just because someone like you has a problem with right-wing centrist conservatives like me trying to convince you not to start World War 4.

If WW4 starts, you will be one of those idiots more concerned about how you can no longer order your Pantene shampoo online through the Woolworths website. The server will be down. And your delivery driver will be in training with the RAAF, learning how to efficiently drive Bushmasters to evacuate dead and dying civilians from regional northern Australia.

And whilst those United Nations employees might be "pulling their hair out" trying to resolve the conflict in the surrounding area of Palestine's "Radiation Zone", you could be well aware that you will receive a mandated call up to national service.

In the meantime, you may be well-served to mitigate the tone of smugness you have on these forums. Or keep going with it. WW3 ended several years ago because of the likes of you.

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