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Reply #120 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:39pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:00pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 12:29pm:

Haha - you and Unsub....trying a bit of 'diagnosis' while being insightless, ideologically crippled, and not open to examination of causes.

Causing the classic ideological divide (and confusion over 'the enemy within' - a big topic in the US elections: is it Harris or Trump who is a "threat to democracy"?).

Deplorable.

Hello again, thegreatdivide. The Australian military would still like to recruit the type of person you present as yourself. You don't have to tick the gender box these days. It is NO longer a question.

I actually applied to the military when I had no idea how to earn a living; I failed the eyesight standard. (I think I had fantasies of explaining to my fellow soldiers how war can be avoided ...the naivety of youth...)

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Upon completing your military academy training in Kapooka or Duntroon, you will be whisked away to the nearest military training base for further instruction on how you can handle domestic (national) war zones.

You wouldn't get me inside the war industry machine in a fit these days; I'm much more likely to shoot the bastard in front of me (if I was forced to) than someone I dont know in some overseas war.

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There will be plenty of time for you to speak up about the "insightless, ideologically crippled" veterans of domestic abuse cases.

Not in the military - I would be turfed out in an instant; as you know by now, I despise the war machine, being more interested in examining the mentality of international law lawyers who are grappling with the absurd concept of 'legal war'.

Who are "veterans of domestic abuse? Wives abused by sick veterans suffering PTSD?

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I happened to be a hostage negotiator for the Rockhampton region on two occasions. Had I been a computer hacker in recent years, or paid closer attention to the police radio, I could have single-handedly prevented the domestic violence of a mother and child last year, too.

aka 'placing the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff'...WHY was she subject to domestic violence - partner violence, the ultimate madness.

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However, I submit to your insightful comments on the economic system of Australia's politics. I look forward to my former commanding officer reporting back to me how well woke liberals do in the military.

Well - in these "woke" times, even battle-hardened decorated soldiers (presumably not "woke liberals") can find themselves in deep pooh with the military top-brass.....

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74667 Gender:	Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility Reply #121 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:42pm UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 12:41pm: Jasin is a lot smarter than you, and YOU don't even know it. . Are you drunk again? I've known bricks that are smarter then Jasin
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #122 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:47pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 11:35am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 5:22pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:54pm:

Ah! Our Aboriginal brethren have the same sort of ideas.

Actual First Nations members are indigenous Australian community leaders who work full-time jobs and try and keep the younger generation in line.

But they too are up against a neoliberal economic system which is now pricing ordinary Australians out of affordable housing. The egregious social consequences of that decades-long in-the-making neoliberal market failure reinforce entrenched socio-economic disadvantage, despite the efforts of well-meaning poverty-industry workers.

Data reveals small number of property investors control big chunk of Australian rentals

"Mr Jericho said the data highlighted how many of the benefits of negative gearing and the capital gains discount went to the largest investors.

They are actually getting a much better average benefit from negative gearing than your more traditional mum-and-dad investors," Dr Jericho said.

"The system we have at the moment … it's really kind of geared towards assisting people who are able to borrow against [the] equity of one property to buy another property, and then to borrow against that and buy another property."

See what happens whn you ignore macro economic failure, and blame 'lack of personal responsibility' for criminal behaviour.

Lock'en up....at least they'll get 3 square meals a day and managed accommodation.

people are priced out of affordable housing because of the high cost of land, getting land cleared, building roads and drainage, making bricks and plasterboard and concrete, stainless steel and roof tiles.

why are these things so dear

why is it so much dearer to get a concretor and a carpenter.
to buy wood and bricks?

well, a lot of the young people who would have worked in these trades would rather work as BS jobs like "disbaility support worker" then go get on the tools.

so we have wage surges for the trades as governments keep conscripting people into BS jobs

then we have so much greentape that clearing land is very costly.

developers have to employ someone to come and check every tree for a koala, more BS jobs

then to put the roads in we need armies of traffic controllers, because safety is so important that we need 6 traffic controllers for everyone operating a shovel

then the bricks and wood are so dear because electricity is thru the roof since we gave all out coal to china and india so they could have cheap power.

add in armies of pen pushers from the council making builders spend all day with a pencil in their hand instead of a hammer

so the cost of housing is mainly dut to too many public servants and too much government departmental empire building

get rid of government and we could go back to cheap housing again.

like the amish who can put up a house on a weekend

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #123 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:52pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:07pm:

I'm tempted to ask.."please explain" - I'm not that smart (and Pauline's an honest person at least...)

You don't know how smart I am. The Rockhampton CIB, however, do know. That is why they put a police tracer ping on my phone number. They don't like the way I type my forum posts, too.

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I see you are a tough nut to crack.

"Smart arse"?

Don't shoot the messenger, the pyschosis caused by 'the human condition' ie, the pyschosis caused by the freedom to act against instinct which controls other animals automatically and without self-examination, and is manifested by the endless slaughter of children in war - psychotic behaviour indeed - is prof. Jeremy Griffiths' observation.

How many times have you been beaten up? I must have been knocked into concussion phases about 10 times in the last 24 years. Only football players (and some netball players) take more injuries than I do.

Eight months ago, I suffered a fairly serious stroke. It was because I went 2 months without a scotch, when I was trying to be sober in the summer months.

Book learning is an excellent source of material. So too is psychology for anyone with anything more than boy scout training in the army. Hopefully, you are a medical student with considerable experience in the hospital industry. I would be working at Yeppoon Hospital by now, if I did not act like an idiot as a 21 y.o. At least Uber driving pays pretty well.

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #124 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 2:00pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:42pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 12:41pm:

Jasin is a lot smarter than you, and YOU don't even know it. .

Are you drunk again? I've known bricks that are smarter then Jasin

The thing is, if I go more than 2 months without a scotch, there is a possibility that my stroke might "flare up" again. This time I am prepared to counter it with some home remedies of thyme sprinkled over my salad or vegetables. It worked well back in March.

Jasin just comes off as a bit self-important. I admit, he actually does have a bit of wisdom about himself. Whatever criticisms you have of Jasin, he knows how to shut up and let people be themselves. You can see evidence of that on Political Animal.

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #125 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 2:02pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 2:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:42pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 12:41pm:

Jasin is a lot smarter than you, and YOU don't even know it. .

Are you drunk again? I've known bricks that are smarter then Jasin

The thing is, if I go more than 2 months without a scotch, there is a possibility that my stroke might "flare up" again. This time I am prepared to counter it with some home remedies of thyme sprinkled over my salad or vegetables. It worked well back in March.

Jasin just comes off as a bit self-important. I admit, he actually does have a bit of wisdom about himself. Whatever criticisms you have of Jasin, he knows how to shut up and let people be themselves. You can see evidence of that on Political Animal.

thats because there is never anybody to respond on PA Cheesy

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #127 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 2:28pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:07pm:

Hey, I'm even prepared to admit Goebbel's was smarter than me...and certainly the lawyers attempting to develop international law on the basis of "legal war" are no doubt smarter than me, yet they are also the sick bunnies pulling their hair out as they watch the UN project proving itself powerless to stop the slaughter of children... so much for being "smart".

I don't want to have to re-apply for the army and be assigned the rank of Colonel, just because someone like you has a problem with right-wing centrist conservatives like me trying to convince you not to start World War 4.
If WW4 starts,....

Er..did you miss it: Einstein, helping to usher in the nuclear age, and much smarter than either of us, said "the war after WW3 will be fought with sticks and stones....".

Personally, I'd cheer Trump if he told Putin and Zelensky to end that war NOW, against the wishes of the delusional "democratic freedoms" mob in NATO (not including Slovenia and Hungary).

Not sure how Trump would end the Palestine war without creating the Palestinian state; and I don't think he would take on China over Taiwan, which is an internal Chinese ideological dispute, which deluded 'democratic freedom' ideologues the world over want to stick their sorry noses into.

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you will be one of those idiots more concerned about how you can no longer order your Pantene shampoo online

Er - yes, you forgot about Einstein's warning re MAD in WW3; there won't be any online IT after WW3.

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And whilst those United Nations employees might be "pulling their hair out" trying to resolve the conflict in the surrounding area of Palestine's "Radiation Zone", you could be well aware that you will receive a mandated call up to national service.

The UN will no longer exist after WW3, since the world's major capitals will be in ruins.

As to "mandated call ups" - be warned, my hatred will be directed to the war machine in front of me, not overseas.

People everywhere want peace; the military industrial complex turns us all into murderers. Listen to Sky News: "we have get ready to fight China".

Get a life, maybe? The Chinese are more interested in developing common prosperity at home than making war on Oz.

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In the meantime, you may be well-served to mitigate the tone of smugness you have on these forums. Or keep going with it. WW3 ended several years ago because of the likes of you.

??

Are we talking about WW3 or 4?

Neither has started yet.

As for "smugness", I'm not responsible for the effect my expose' of the human condition has on you.

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #128 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 2:55pm

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Er..did you miss it: Einstein, helping to usher in the nuclear age, and much smarter than either of us, said "the war after WW3 will be fought with sticks and stones....".

World War 4 will be fought with computers, AI, and old-fashioned brutal strength. World War 5 might be fought with spears and stones.

World War 3 ended in August, 2021, with the withdrawal of American troops. Make of it what you will the result of the war, who was the victor.

I helped evacuate the Australian soldiers, near the border of Pakistan, in 2014. It was kind of wild having to pack a 1992 era South African Cricket World Cup jersey, just in case the helicopter got shot down on the way back to the HMAS Tobruk.

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Reply #129 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 5:52pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 12:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 15^th, 2024 at 5:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 15^th, 2024 at 2:36pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 15^th, 2024 at 9:58am:

That's a tad better than you - being a recipient of participation awards all your life.

no, I didn't spend a lifetime sponging of taxpayers like you did

Yeah now how did I do that? Roll Eyes

negative gearing and FBT concessions ... just to name a few

Never owned an investment house in my life nor been eligible for FBT concessions.

That sounds more like your forte.

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #130 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 5:57pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:06pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 14^th, 2024 at 12:53pm:

What's your idea of an Aboriginal lifestyle Boot Camp for deluded lefties? It actually hurts my gentle soul to use terms like lefties for The Enemy... being as, like most honest and thinking folk, I have foot in both 'left' and 'right' camps.

The thing is that these days the child is socialised to burn down the village.... there's the difference between our thinking ... their 'teenage rebel' period now extends down to about age eight.... and up in some cases to age eighty.....

I have spoken to genuine First Nation members. They agree that the right to claim indigenous status is based on whether the applicant is willing to live at least a month "on country". That is the "Aboriginal lifestyle Boot Camp".

None of this "Look at me. I have an aboriginal flag that I use at rallies" bs. They are just rabble rousers.

That's the BS right there ...no such thing... there are not and never were any 1st Nations on this continent prior to colonisation.

And the "month on country" is another recent made up bit of BS .... just like Welcome to Country. Roll Eyes

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Reply #131 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 5:59pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 1:59pm:

Although I am not an accredited psychologist, I can say with some authority that "thegreatdivide" is a genuine egomaniacal psychopath. The fact that he/she/it tries to hide behind a "woke personality" is evident of my accusation.

I am about ready to see "thegreatdivide" being banned from OzPol. Go to PoliticalAnimal and have Jasin babysit you. He is a lot smarter than you.

Yeah nah you're not and you can't say with anything with any authority. Grin

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Reply #132 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 6:01pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 5:22pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 2:54pm:

Ah! Our Aboriginal brethren have the same sort of ideas.

Actual First Nations members are indigenous Australian community leaders who work full-time jobs and try and keep the younger generation in line. Some work in emergency services. Some work in the hospital and diversionary system. Some are teachers. A few are actual lecturers. Many are sports coaches.

Other indigenous people can identify as whatever. It makes my head spin.

There aren't any. They're people of Aboriginal descent .... some with a very slim grasp on that ancestry.

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Reply #133 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 6:08pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 1:07pm:

Hey, I'm even prepared to admit Goebbel's was smarter than me...and certainly the lawyers attempting to develop international law on the basis of "legal war" are no doubt smarter than me, yet they are also the sick bunnies pulling their hair out as they watch the UN project proving itself powerless to stop the slaughter of children... so much for being "smart".

I don't want to have to re-apply for the army and be assigned the rank of Colonel, just because someone like you has a problem with right-wing centrist conservatives like me trying to convince you not to start World War 4.

If WW4 starts, you will be one of those idiots more concerned about how you can no longer order your Pantene shampoo online through the Woolworths website. The server will be down. And your delivery driver will be in training with the RAAF, learning how to efficiently drive Bushmasters to evacuate dead and dying civilians from regional northern Australia.

And whilst those United Nations employees might be "pulling their hair out" trying to resolve the conflict in the surrounding area of Palestine's "Radiation Zone", you could be well aware that you will receive a mandated call up to national service.

In the meantime, you may be well-served to mitigate the tone of smugness you have on these forums. Or keep going with it. WW3 ended several years ago because of the likes of you.

The Army wouldn't have you .... and if they did they'd be desperate....

and what makes you think you'd be officer material?

Your schizophrenia?

BTW what do you weigh at the moment?

You wouldn't get through boot camp/basic training.

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #134 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 7:20pm

Gnads wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 5:59pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 16^th, 2024 at 1:59pm:

Although I am not an accredited psychologist, I can say with some authority that "thegreatdivide" is a genuine egomaniacal psychopath. The fact that he/she/it tries to hide behind a "woke personality" is evident of my accusation.

I am about ready to see "thegreatdivide" being banned from OzPol. Go to PoliticalAnimal and have Jasin babysit you. He is a lot smarter than you.

Yeah nah you're not and you can't say with anything with any authority. Grin

Oh ffs, Gnads. "thegreatdivide" is so far left, he orbited the planet a couple of times and gave himself jetlag.

Even Anthony Albanese stops off in Hong Kong for "stretching his legs and getting some emails downloaded" before he continues onward to Beijing.

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