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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #150 - Oct 19th, 2024 at 11:51am
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 6:11pm:
OMG your schizophrenia is extra large in this story.....

after all your posted supposed history it just gets more grandiose by the post.

Forget all the BS TAFE style training go into writing short story fiction ....

you have an uncanny knack for it.  Grin


My schizophrenia has saved my life a few times. My schizophrenia has realistically saved a few people's lives around town. When I was 19 years old, I got both reprimanded and praised for saving the life of a young mother over town from her drug addicted boyfriend. You don't have to believe that story.

And that long-winded story I told the other day about my time out at the shooting range, let us call that the made-up story. I cannot prove to you what I saw or what I did. Even if I gave you my real name to check up on the credibility, both the perpetrators and the victim are now dead. I am the only witness to the story. Police could not piece together what had happened. My story was the only credible piece of evidence that could be put to record. Let us just say that some guy pulled out a handgun at an alleyway, in 1997 (or whenever). The mugging was thwarted by some bikie looking fellow, hitting the mugger in the back of the head with a 750mL XXXX bottle. Does that sound more realistic? You don't even have to believe that story.

There is a reason why Rockhampton's crime rate dropped in the last 20 years, but we are considered one of the more dangerous regional cities in the country. My friends, my ex-girlfriends, and some family members started doing patrols around town in our spare time. Thursday nights are considered "lap nights" where all the car enthusiasts like to show off their expensive cars and talk about their latest home theatre system. The closest thing I have to a stereo system is the 3.1 channel sound bar that I have attached to my $700 computer. It was a bit of a splurge. But I managed to save enough money to buy the computer, after the last computer was overwhelmed with privacy traces moreso than usual. People call those moments "the blue screen of death".

I drink a bottle of scotch once every 3 weeks (on average). I buy at Aldis when the other major supermarkets are not being competitive. I sleep 5 to 7 hours a night, given my age and socioeconomic circumstances. And I have a couple of really cool employers who understand my situation and give me a bit of leniency with my attitude problem (according to some 20 to 25 year old age range co-workers).

Why should I be condemned for my "old school" personality? I mean, I am only 45 years old. There are people out there who are 17 years of age. The justice system lets them off with a warning for mugging women my age. But, when I as a white kid, being 9 years old at the time, gets blamed for something that a 30 y.o. did to his daughter... racial background did take priority over facts. That is why a local police officer gave serious consideration to making me a missing child, rather than bump off a migrant university lecturer.

...and that is why I (sometimes) drink, your Honour. Yes, I do embellish my stories. Up to you if you want to believe them. Or I could continue my novelisation that I had started on my ex-girlfriend's computer and write up these far-fetched encounters I had throughout my childhood.
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Reply #151 - Oct 19th, 2024 at 12:03pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 6:22pm:
Well they at least got one thing right.

As for 2013 - Yeah nah .... no you didn't.

Your police record, your alcohol & drug dependencies would have seen to that.

You haven't had enough of a lifetime to do all the things you claim to have done.

To do what you claim you should be at least as old as I am.  Grin


In 2013, I was retired from active duty as an unlisted army reservist. It was the last time I picked up a rifle to shoot at the rifle range. I drove through Cawarral the other week and was reminded of what happened 25 and years earlier. Then I thought that I might as well scale back the big-talk to something more passive-aggressive and implicit. I think you might remember me writing something similar about 7 or 8 years ago. That was when I stopped being such a smart-arse and started acting my age.

rhino was actually quite wise. PM for Canyons was very forgiving, even if he did not like it that I ate Maccas and/or Red Rooster every second weekend. Then there are a few others that no longer post here that "don't dick around". You seem to be one of the last posters here that understands me, but does not believe me.

I am 45 years old. My police record remains clean (other than traffic infringements). And I chose the username "UnSubRocky" for obvious reasons. Police officers assigned to reviewing my profile at the Rockhampton CIB every year are likely to see how reliable I can be for around the town.
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Reply #152 - Oct 19th, 2024 at 1:51pm
 


"Lowering the age of crim responsibility"




Their age, is totally irrelevant, imo.

10 year old, or 15 year old.

If an individual commits a criminal offence,
AND,
if that individual   >> knows** <<   that the action they chose to 'do' is wrong [i.e. against the law],
then they need to be made accountable, IN LAW, for whatever they did.

**
....if they know, because this current 'incident'......'isn't their first rodeo'.



Not so ????

Why ?

Why would anyone [in Australia], get 'a pass' to do,
something which they already know,
is wrong [unlawful] ???



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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #153 - Oct 20th, 2024 at 9:36am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 19th, 2024 at 12:03pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 6:22pm:
Well they at least got one thing right.

As for 2013 - Yeah nah .... no you didn't.

Your police record, your alcohol & drug dependencies would have seen to that.

You haven't had enough of a lifetime to do all the things you claim to have done.

To do what you claim you should be at least as old as I am.  Grin


In 2013, I was retired from active duty as an unlisted army reservist. It was the last time I picked up a rifle to shoot at the rifle range. I drove through Cawarral the other week and was reminded of what happened 25 and years earlier. Then I thought that I might as well scale back the big-talk to something more passive-aggressive and implicit. I think you might remember me writing something similar about 7 or 8 years ago. That was when I stopped being such a smart-arse and started acting my age.

rhino was actually quite wise. PM for Canyons was very forgiving, even if he did not like it that I ate Maccas and/or Red Rooster every second weekend. Then there are a few others that no longer post here that "don't dick around". You seem to be one of the last posters here that understands me, but does not believe me.

I am 45 years old. My police record remains clean (other than traffic infringements). And I chose the username "UnSubRocky" for obvious reasons. Police officers assigned to reviewing my profile at the Rockhampton CIB every year are likely to see how reliable I can be for around the town.



If you were a Reservist up to being 34 yrs old  when did you start bunging the weight on?

You already said you'd been drinking and trying drugs way before then.

And why would Detectives be reviewing your profile yearly just for "traffic" infringements?

It would have to be for more than that. Roll Eyes
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #154 - Oct 20th, 2024 at 10:10am
 
Give it up, Rocky.

On the subject - though I raised it, I haven't had a lot to say.

I will now speak my mind definitively - when the offender is a serial serious criminal offender and shows no sign of remorse or willingness to change his/her ways, and it is clear that parents are incapable of controlling anti-social and criminal behaviour in their offspring yet cannot have those offspring taken away from them due to silly public misconception and a totally unwarranted fear of consequences for doing what is right - there is little to no choice left but to place that offender in a program to properly guide him/her in the paths of righteousness..... (hoo-rah) ..

Tough titties!
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Reply #155 - Oct 20th, 2024 at 1:30pm
 
Commit a crime

Do the time.

A parent's solem duty is to teach children right from wrong.
To look after and nurture them to become responsible and contributing adults.

If the parent does not do their job, punish both the parent and the child .
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Reply #156 - Oct 21st, 2024 at 4:26pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 5:43pm:
I'm 75 and apart from a developing cataract my vision is near perfect still.  Need reading glasses for keyboard stuff but not to view screen or television just over arm's length away.


And neither of you are interested in how to avoid war via effective  international law... ok, a tough nut to crack.

Nor how to eradicate entrenched poverty and its associated crime - admittedly also tough, given the current neoclassical economic orthodoxy.

The Conservative solutions: war - shoot them; poverty-related crime - lock'em up...though did I see you referencing re-training in a later post, as opposed to 'lock'em up'?

That's progress. 
 


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Reply #157 - Oct 21st, 2024 at 4:34pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 6:00pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 17th, 2024 at 7:20pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 17th, 2024 at 5:59pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 16th, 2024 at 1:59pm:
Although I am not an accredited psychologist, I can say with some authority that "thegreatdivide" is a genuine egomaniacal psychopath. The fact that he/she/it tries to hide behind a "woke personality" is evident of my accusation.

I am about ready to see "thegreatdivide" being banned from OzPol. Go to PoliticalAnimal and have Jasin babysit you. He is a lot smarter than you.


Yeah nah you're not and you can't say with anything with any authority. Grin


Oh ffs, Gnads. "thegreatdivide" is so far left, he orbited the planet a couple of times and gave himself jetlag.

Even Anthony Albanese stops off in Hong Kong for "stretching his legs and getting some emails downloaded" before he continues onward to Beijing.


That just makes TGD & Albo both far left ideologues.


Which proves you don't read my posts.

Unsub is correct: Albo is closer to Morrison (who conceived the AUKUS bs - accepted by Albo) than to me,  on the political L-R spectrum. 
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #158 - Oct 21st, 2024 at 4:46pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21st, 2024 at 4:26pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 5:43pm:
I'm 75 and apart from a developing cataract my vision is near perfect still.  Need reading glasses for keyboard stuff but not to view screen or television just over arm's length away.


And neither of you are interested in how to avoid war via effective  international law... ok, a tough nut to crack.

Nor how to eradicate entrenched poverty and its associated crime - admittedly also tough, given the current neoclassical economic orthodoxy.

The Conservative solutions: war - shoot them; poverty-related crime - lock'em up...though did I see you referencing re-training in a later post, as opposed to 'lock'em up'?

That's progress. 
 


International law never stopped a single conflict.
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Reply #159 - Oct 21st, 2024 at 5:47pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 21st, 2024 at 4:46pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 21st, 2024 at 4:26pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 5:43pm:
I'm 75 and apart from a developing cataract my vision is near perfect still.  Need reading glasses for keyboard stuff but not to view screen or television just over arm's length away.


And neither of you are interested in how to avoid war via effective  international law... ok, a tough nut to crack.

Nor how to eradicate entrenched poverty and its associated crime - admittedly also tough, given the current neoclassical economic orthodoxy.

The Conservative solutions: war - shoot them; poverty-related crime - lock'em up...though did I see you referencing re-training in a later post, as opposed to 'lock'em up'?

That's progress. 
 
International law never stopped a single conflict.


But international law could - if supported by all the members of the UNSC enforcing adjudication of disputes between nations by the ICJ - stop all wars between nations.

Just as poverty-related crime can be eradicated, if government had the will to eradicate poverty.

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there is little to no choice left but to place that offender in a program to properly guide him/her in the paths of righteousness..... (hoo-rah) .


A correct statement; do I detect some contempt for that course of action?




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Reply #160 - Oct 21st, 2024 at 6:22pm
 
Whatever you say - the USNC could slap them around with some wet lettuce leaves and bring about law and order...

We've seen time and again how a too-little too-late too-weak-kneed response from the UN costs millions of lives.  can't see that changing in any way.

How's the planning for the quarantine zone around Israel's borders going?  How're the peace initiatives and then peacekeeping in Gaza and Lebanon going?  Lot of jumping up and down and slinging accusations around indiscriminately - not much forward movement.

Wait until Israel does the job required on the Barbarians, then come in with loud trumpets and declare peace/victory for civilisation amid promises of a better future for all in peace and harmony.

Meanwhile the clock counts down to WW III ... the alliances are lining up.... the national boundaries are hardening....
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Reply #161 - Oct 21st, 2024 at 7:00pm
 
.. and so it spreads and spreads......

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/queensland-must-look-at-early-intervention-...

"Senator Jacquie Lambie discusses Queensland’s youth crime issue urging early intervention over further punishment in youth detention centres.

Queensland LNP Leader David Crisafulli has promised mandatory isolation for child offenders who assault guards ahead of the state election.

“If you want to change a generation, you’ve got to start early,” Ms Lambie told Sky News Australia.

“That’s at five or six years of age and teaching those kids to have the courage to stand up for themselves and say no I’m not going to be a part of that.”



... and now for something completely different .....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/alice-springs-youths-to-be-relocated-to...

"Alice Springs youths to be relocated to Darwin as part of NT government's 'emergency' prisons plan

The Northern Territory government has announced it will permanently move young people from the Alice Springs Youth Detention Centre to Darwin as part of an "emergency response" to bursting prisons.

The new Country Liberal Party government on Monday revealed details of its plan to install about 800 new adult prison beds over the next four years, increasing the NT's jail capacity by 37 per cent.

This will include transferring children and teenagers held in Alice Springs to Darwin's new youth detention centre in Holtze, which is set to open next month.

Adult female prisoners will then be moved into the 48-bed Alice Springs youth detention centre.

Deputy Chief Minister and Corrections Minister Gerard Maley said keeping all youth detainees in one location would improve rehabilitation services.

"(It will) make sure those children have a better choice in life and hopefully stop the cycle of reoffending and go on to be upstanding members of the community," he said.

However Justice Reform Initiative advocacy coordinator Kirsten Wilson said the plan to relocate young people from Alice Springs to Darwin, about 1,500 kilometres away, was "really concerning".

"That means that young people are away from their family supports, from their community, from the service support systems that sit around them and off their country," she said.

"What that will likely lead to is a continued cycle of reoffending."

The government said it would also repurpose the Don Dale Youth Detention Centre in Berrimah as a temporary home for 50 low-security adult male prisoners by December, once children and teenagers are in the new Holtze facility."



... more on the link ....

And so it begins.......... night and fog ... the midnight express to Darwin ..... removal  and isolation from the general community .... the gulags begin...... shipping of the worst miscreants first ..... little by little taking in all 'undesirables' and enemies of the state.....

Pertinent Comment:-  Makes no difference to their re-offending - they are there at all because of repeat offences.  Arrr - you cunning lefties!  Always trying to deceive the public with the idea that somehow these repeat criminals are the result of attempts at correction.... and that somehow White culture causes remote Aborigines to behave illegally.
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Reply #162 - Oct 22nd, 2024 at 2:31pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 21st, 2024 at 6:22pm:
Whatever you say - the USNC could slap them around with some wet lettuce leaves and bring about law and order...


No,  the UNSC (if the members united and willed it)  could eliminate the war criminal Netanyahu  (..even Hezbollah apparently found his house with a drone),
and war criminal Putin if he refused to negotiate - Russia, not Putin, is a member of the UNSC;    bulldoze the illegal settlers out of the WB;  and then lay down the law for would be trouble makers.

"Lettuce leaves"?

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We've seen time and again..


..because the UNSC isn't united behind rule of law.

Meanwhile even Austen is getting restive re Israel's genocide/total war policy.

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how a too-little too-late too-weak-kneed response from the UN costs millions of lives.  can't see that changing in any way.


Neither can I, so long as your instinctive 'survival of fittest' ideology rules the UNSC.

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Meanwhile the clock counts down to WW III ... the alliances are lining up.... the national boundaries are hardening....


Yep, there's a possibility the ancient, unconscious 'survival' instincts will in fact destroy civilization on this planet, via MAD..... ironic.

Epitaph: "they didn't succeed in "knowing themselves". 

Now, back to the causes of poor parental role models living in generational poverty.
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Reply #163 - Oct 22nd, 2024 at 8:21pm
 
It's all down to the neo-con ideology I tells yez.  People can't be given personal sovereignty and responsibility, and the state must not be paternalistic.

You wee little Fascist you  **tweaks his cheek**

By what right does the UN declare war on Israel and seek to murder its head man?  Are you a mad fascist?  What makes you think murdering Netty would cause Israel to give up defending itself?

You are talking madness.
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Reply #164 - Oct 23rd, 2024 at 2:18am
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 20th, 2024 at 9:36am:
If you were a Reservist up to being 34 yrs old  when did you start bunging the weight on?

You already said you'd been drinking and trying drugs way before then.

And why would Detectives be reviewing your profile yearly just for "traffic" infringements?

It would have to be for more than that. Roll Eyes


At 34 years of age, I had packed on about 130kg total.  Between the ages of 30 and 34 years of age, I weighed anywhere from 95 to 130kg. I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes at age 35. There was no doubt about that.

I was not a regular drinker until about the year 2021. I discovered how insane people can get. Watching those videos of riots throughout the world, I am left to wonder how it was that I managed to afford those bottles of scotch. Then I recalled the term "coronavirus bonus payments".

Detectives don't review my profile, over a matter of traffic tickets. Police review my profile over a matter of yours truly being labelled "a potential risk to public safety". That is rather an ironical way of saying "subject encourages road rage by eliminating general antisocial behaviour".

I read social media posts about there being a serial killer in our region. I laughed at my computer screen and wondered how well people sleep at night. If you followed Aorta Complexus, ignorance is bliss.
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