"Oz blacks ARE burdened by issues of culture "

Ah, well - they'll just have to wear it then until they change their ways....

By jingo you get close to understanding at times - then you sort of drift off on some unicorn ride... blowing smoke as you go to cover your tracks...

Is no culture of breaking laws - is no problem ..... feeding them on the idea that someone stole 'their land' and therefore they are 'owed' is not going to stop them stealing as a matter of 'taking back from whitey' - and thus creating their own problems....

I told you all that you luvvies are responsible..... now the states are turning against you all and finding their solutions...... half measures as usual..... no solid result - so it all starts over again once they return 'home' .... until they end up in adult prison.

Now then Queensland's Park - that could go up somewhere in that enormous gifting on Cape York ... send 'em up and see if they play up under tribal laws and guidance.....

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 8^th, 2024 at 9:06pm:


Correct - but again, your 'personal responsibility' mantra  denies the power of a specific culture on the human psyche (on those in the said culture).
Not everyone can free himself from that power.

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Nah: the UN Universal DHR - addressing issues beyond specific "culture" -  is intended to apply to ALL of us.

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The current most egregious law breakers in the world are Netanyahu and Putin,  with Gaza reduced to rubble and a million dead soldiers (plus civilians)  on both sides in Ukraine. (Hamas - also criminals,  are a reaction to the land grab in Palestine by the UN; while Putin is reacting to NATO's eastward expansion). 

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Like Hamas, they can't accept the fact their land WAS stolen (in their eyes); but the real issue (in Oz) today is black youth crime is mainly a function of community dysfunction in poverty ghettos. 

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And you are still wrong, as explained again, above.

[Ironic: lee says he isn't referring to violent crime; while you are bemoaning the 'luvvies" approach to crime].

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Correct; but what are these "half measures" compared   to what Crisafulli has in mind, since he intends to lock'em up. What is the "full measure" required, and how will locking them up break the cycle of crime?

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Apartheid isn't acceptable  in the modern world, and neither  Price nor Pearson - community leaders - will accept it.

Well - it looks - after the $200,000 trashing of the new facility up there (Kazaly) within half an hour of arrival of the fresh crop of convicted of serious crimes youth inmates - that they have zero intention of abiding by any Wharte Man's Laws and ways of getting along, and are totally unprepared to learn but prefer a future of endless revolving door imprisonment. They've declared war, are being advised on their course of action, their 'resistance', by the adults and 'elders', and you silly buggars are sleeping while it goes on.

The only real solution is their own Homeland - The Park - no other choice if they continue down this path - other than gulags.... I think The Park and full independence - separate sovereignty complete inside The Park and their 'own ways' - is the far softer option than gulags in the desert with one truckload of supplies a week - after all - they live off the land, don't they?

You know what all the Hate Team here hate most?  When I offer these Recalcitrants what they claim to want - with every single bell and whistle - at which point, instead of applauding the offer of Aboriginal Sovereignty in their own separate state/nation as THEY demand - their very own chosen Apartheid - the screams are of 'segregation'.

Well - it's not 'segregation' because they are living in their own Homeland and are not Australian citizens any more and are totally responsible for themselves .... there is no possible concept of 'separate but equal' for two different sovereign nations...... but, of course, the biggest problem is that all the Hate Team know, in their hearts of darkness - that most of those who choose to live 'their way' in The Park won't survive two years there......

So - time to make some real choices....... be part of Australia and act as full and responsible citizens - or move to The Park under your own government.

They're stealing the dollars
They're stealing the cents,
They're stealing the funding
Of the people who LIVE there...

With that big ol' chief
They'll find no relief,
He'll pilfer the funds
Of the people who LIVE there....

Big house on the hill
Aircon that's so chill
He'll need all the cash
Of the people who LIVE there....

That big Silverback
Will cut 'em no slack
He'll keep all the cash
Of the people who LIVE there...

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:


No petal I don't. It is just YOU want me to.

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:


So it is not violent if they don't hit people. Things CAN be violent even when no harm is caused. How about if it is only trauma?

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:


You have never "taught" anything. There fixed it for you.

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:



Oh Dear, I hit a nerve.

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 5:11pm:


So going to work for yourself is not an option for them, until such time as you give them all.

lee wrote on Nov 11^th, 2024 at 8:07pm:


So continue to ignore the causes of crime, halfwit.

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Halfwit: ask the people in the NT and Qld... who are outraged by the curent level of youth crime, and voted on their concerns. 

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Dementing halfwit, you inferred I was "teaching" them to commit crime. 

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Halfwit: I exposed  YOUR mindless refusal to examine causes.

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Halfwit: Bullock - with her NAIRU fantasy  - currently  determines total  employment in the economy.
Those least able to compete in her beloved neoliberal jobmarket are the cannon fodder necessary to keep the rotten system alive.

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 10:28am:



No dear causes of crime and criminal responsibility are entirely different beings. 

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 10:28am:


So you don't know if trauma is violence. Thanks for that.

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 10:28am:


No I inferred that was the only way they would learn it was "whartey's fault". Another different intedrpretation from you. Your not very good are you?

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 10:28am:


Because the tread is about the AGE of criminal responsibility, not the CAUSES of criminal resonsibility. Do try to keep up.

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 10:28am:


You are showing your biases again. Must be a Keen factor.

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 14^th, 2024 at 10:30am:



Sidestep as big as the Harbour Bridge... why - that bloke who quit his lucrative job up there (Kazaly) in protest at this terrible thing being done to Aboriginal kids... and a host of others including all the luvvie bodies up there (Kazaly) ... though I suppose those throwing spears at others of the same  ethnicity is nothing to worry about.... shouldn't have brought a machete to a spear fight... 

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 13^th, 2024 at 2:26pm:


You're not that clever dumb ass and while there was no doubt, it's nice to see another admission of why you're here...

So much for the issues.