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Reply #315 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 4:50pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 4:27pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 11:24am:
" all the condescending anti-wokes out there that want to be racist against indigenous Australian people (mainly) in determining that the Australian government needs to be educating people on how unhealthy sugar and high-carb diets have on our mainly sedentary lives."

You lost me on that - what is this?  Are you saying it is now 'racist' to 'educate people' on poor diet?  It impacts more on Aborigines here than on Others?  It's 'condescending' to tell people that a sugar and high-carb (let's include a meat heavy) unbalanced diet is unhealthy?

Please explain?


It is racist to assume that indigenous Australians are not knowledgeable enough to know that sugar and high carbs are bad for their health. They know.


It's not and they don't.

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They just don't care.


Off on a 'personal responsibility rant, again. 

News flash: the entire globe is suffering an obesity and diabetes epidemic, because the global junk-food industry is exploiting ignorance.

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The indigenous people in remote communities are such people that they have little to do other than to drink sugary drinks -- sometimes they sneak in alcohol -- and eat rubbish food.


And you continue to argue GIGO, as noted above.

Solving the lack of employment problem is indeed vital.

That' means getting rid of the current evil NAIRU-based  poverty-industry/'welfare safety net'.   

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They have few jobs. They have little to do other than to play football or learn how to fix cars. The women learn how to look after each others' children. And they learn how to deal with medical emergencies -- of which is often in some communities.


Yes, there are always some people (often women)  who try to improve community conditions, while others succumb to conditions  trpically seen  in poverty ghettos  (crime, poor behaviours etc).

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I could imagine the idea of "educating people on how to eat healthy" is just something that indigenous Australians learn when they tell the difference between KFC and fruit and vegetables. KFC is a treat to them. Fruit and vegetables are a fact of life.


You would be imaging wrongly, as noted re the entire globe, above.

And fresh fruit and vegetables aren't affordable  on the dole, least of all in remote communities.
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Reply #316 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 5:11pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 11:53am:
No need to find the article. Tim Tams shouldn't even be retailed in remote community stores, given the dire state of black health.

And public schools should be teaching all of us (starting with the kids)  about healthy eating, and to walk past the Tim Tams the supermarket.

But greedy 'private enterprise'  Conservatives shout 'nanny state', whenever their rotten, health destroying  profits are threatened.....

[Apparently Trump has selected JFK jnr, for the task of improving the nation's health in the US ....(cough)....] 

Indeed, but are you going to blame the blacks who have become addicted to white junk sold in black stores?

now - there's a new twist on "woke"....."anti-woke" - cool!  Just shows where your GIGO thinking (revealed above) leads you: "woke" is no longer contemptible, anti-woke is.....(or is it both)....

How is education re healthy eating "racist"?

See my remarks on national health at the top (though I doubt Trump will listen to JFK jnr ....comedy gold ....)

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You are a special kind of strange, tgd.


Says the guy who reckons teaching knowledge of healthy food is "anti-woke".


thegreatdivide,

My high school taught us all about healthy eating, back when we were doing home economics. Plus, we were taught what sugar does to your body. It took until I was throwing up in the toilets after a meal before I found out what sugar does to the body. I would have learned from life experience, no matter what the home economics teacher taught us.

You should be more concerned about the ultra-liberal anti-woke brigade being concerned about their drug dealing being under threat by strike-breaker people like me putting an end to drug importation to the continent. I'm anti-union. Therefore, I don't vote for Labor.

By the way, if you are wondering about my use of "woke" and "anti-woke", I happen to be the guy that coined the word to put into the lexicon. Late 1993. Regional Qld origin. "Anti-woke" became defined by around 1996/1997, between when I graduated high school and was starting university.

"Woke": to be aware of one's social, political and/or economic situation.
"Anti-woke": to take advantage of woke people's efforts to self-actualisation and use the woke's themes against them and their better judgement.

For example, UnSubRocky is a "woke" person. thegreatdivide is an "anti-woke" person.

I hope you realise that Trump made a politically strategic move by having Robert Kennedy as health minister. Did you see that look of disgust that Mr Kennedy gave, looking at the McDonalds burger? McDonalds restaurants are going to undergo a serious health standards improvement in the next few months, as the restauranteurs go about improving the cleanliness standards of their restaurants. With Trump doing his day at McDonalds, you can be assured that hygiene standards are going to have even the most liberal Democrat admitting that Mr Trump's final turn as captain of the USA should be respectable.

It is racist to *believe* that indigenous people need to be educated any more than the general Australian population in regards to healthy eating. Indigenous. people. already. know. what. is. good. for. them. and. what. is. not. The difference is that they don't care. Free money will be handed to them every fortnight. What do you do to alleviate the boredom?

Any other insipid, short-sighted comments you want to make about an issue you have no involvement, tgd? I just want to school you in the world of "life and its consequences".
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #317 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 5:33pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 4:27pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 11:24am:
" all the condescending anti-wokes out there that want to be racist against indigenous Australian people (mainly) in determining that the Australian government needs to be educating people on how unhealthy sugar and high-carb diets have on our mainly sedentary lives."

You lost me on that - what is this?  Are you saying it is now 'racist' to 'educate people' on poor diet?  It impacts more on Aborigines here than on Others?  It's 'condescending' to tell people that a sugar and high-carb (let's include a meat heavy) unbalanced diet is unhealthy?

Please explain?


It is racist to assume that indigenous Australians are not knowledgeable enough to know that sugar and high carbs are bad for their health. They know. They just don't care. The indigenous people in remote communities are such people that they have little to do other than to drink sugary drinks -- sometimes they sneak in alcohol -- and eat rubbish food.

They have few jobs. They have little to do other than to play football or learn how to fix cars. The women learn how to look after each others' children. And they learn how to deal with medical emergencies -- of which is often in some communities.

I could imagine the idea of "educating people on how to eat healthy" is just something that indigenous Australians learn when they tell the difference between KFC and fruit and vegetables. KFC is a treat to them. Fruit and vegetables are a fact of life.


So it's not racist to say that all the Other fatties and diabeties etc are 'not knowledgeable enough' to know what's good for them?

They all do it anyway.....  you must be very wary of trying to cast open and free discussion of REAL issues as some ephemeral fairytale thing called 'racism'.  If you listen to that kind of syrene singing, you will come to believe that the bloke who stole ten cars and murdered his wife after a series of neglects and abuses of his children is only sent to prison due to 'racism' - same as these little darlings of ten - none of whom would be in 'juvie' unless they were repeat offenders of serious crimes..... and who are clearly headed, without Intervention™, for a life of revolving door incarceration that their 'loving people' will cry is 'racist' ad somehow wrong regardless of the crimes committed.

You cannot have it that way.  Choose your 'side' carefully, Grasshopper - the tide of history and reality has turned up there (Kazaly)...... best be onboard that train or miss it entirely... you can't straddle a six feet high brick fence topped with razor wire and broken bottles... and and always remember - it is not the Majority who choose this to be about two sides, one aiming for minority supremacy over everything ................. they've already said so........   Cool

I think that's it in a well-licked nutshell, don't you, Igor?

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #318 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 6:43pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 5:11pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 11:53am:
No need to find the article. Tim Tams shouldn't even be retailed in remote community stores, given the dire state of black health.

And public schools should be teaching all of us (starting with the kids)  about healthy eating, and to walk past the Tim Tams the supermarket.

But greedy 'private enterprise'  Conservatives shout 'nanny state', whenever their rotten, health destroying  profits are threatened.....

[Apparently Trump has selected JFK jnr, for the task of improving the nation's health in the US ....(cough)....] 

Indeed, but are you going to blame the blacks who have become addicted to white junk sold in black stores?

now - there's a new twist on "woke"....."anti-woke" - cool!  Just shows where your GIGO thinking (revealed above) leads you: "woke" is no longer contemptible, anti-woke is.....(or is it both)....

How is education re healthy eating "racist"?

See my remarks on national health at the top (though I doubt Trump will listen to JFK jnr ....comedy gold ....)

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You are a special kind of strange, tgd.


Says the guy who reckons teaching knowledge of healthy food is "anti-woke".


thegreatdivide,

My high school taught us all about healthy eating, back when we were doing home economics.
 

Talking about yourself again; kids in  dysfunctional families  in poverty ghettos rarely make it to high school.

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You should be more concerned about the ultra-liberal anti-woke brigade


Still having trouble getting my head around that one...(the "ULAW brigade")

Help me out: are they Left wing or Right wing? 

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being concerned about their drug dealing being under threat by strike-breaker people like me putting an end to drug importation to the continent. I'm anti-union. Therefore, I don't vote for Labor.


Drug dealers are criminals lacking people skills, trying to make a quid above the poverty-level dole. Certainly they won't take kindly to your efforts to destroy their business model...

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By the way, if you are wondering about my use of "woke" and "anti-woke", I happen to be the guy that coined the word to put into the lexicon. Late 1993. Regional Qld origin. "Anti-woke" became defined by around 1996/1997, between when I graduated high school and was starting university.


Probably related to your penchant for GIGO, let's look:

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"Woke": to be aware of one's social, political and/or economic situation.
 

Awareness is not a crime, indeed a necessity for solving problems related to socio-economic disadvantage.

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"Anti-woke": to take advantage of woke people's efforts to self-actualisation and use the woke's themes against them and their better judgement.


Your error (related to your unbalanced approach to "personal responsibility"): solving socio economic disadvantage is not "using woke themes  against the 'anti-wokes' better judgement", it's understanding the causes of socio-economic disadvantage. 

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For example, UnSubRocky is a "woke" person. thegreatdivide is an "anti-woke" person.


See above.

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I hope you realise that Trump made a politically strategic move by having Robert Kennedy as health minister. Did you see that look of disgust that Mr Kennedy gave, looking at the McDonalds burger? McDonalds restaurants are going to undergo a serious health standards improvement in the next few months, as the restauranteurs go about improving the cleanliness standards of their restaurants. With Trump doing his day at McDonalds, you can be assured that hygiene standards are going to have even the most liberal Democrat admitting that Mr Trump's final turn as captain of the USA should be respectable.


The anti-vaxxer?

Note: cleaner Maccas  won't improve the nutritional health profile of their products.

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It is racist to *believe* that indigenous people need to be educated any more than the general Australian population in regards to healthy eating.


Examined and refuted above (in #315); the problem is global, related to the extensive global junk food industry, regardless of race. 

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Indigenous. people. already. know. what. is. good. for. them. and. what. is. not. The difference is that they don't care. Free money will be handed to them every fortnight. What do you do to alleviate the boredom?


Addressed above, and your errors exposed (GIGO)

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Any other insipid, short-sighted comments you want to make about an issue you have no involvement, tgd? I just want to school you in the world of "life and its consequences".


Short-sided?

Says the guy who lays the blame for poverty ghettos on the victims.

"You are living in poverty, your neighborhoods are like war zones, your young men are in prison...": DJ Trump, 2016. 

Is he 'woke' - or 'antiwoke'?
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Reply #319 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 8:26pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 4:22pm:
You might ask lee to take his "climate hoax" theory and "clean pollution" theory to the correct thread.



Poor petal. You were the one brought climate to the aboriginal thread. Except where I mentioned "climate reparations", and not something to which you replied.  And then came your claims about "climate hoax" and "clean pollution" theories. And got exposed with your fraudulent claims. Just the headlines, can't read the papers? Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #320 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 12:15pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 5:33pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 4:27pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 11:24am:
" all the condescending anti-wokes out there that want to be racist against indigenous Australian people (mainly) in determining that the Australian government needs to be educating people on how unhealthy sugar and high-carb diets have on our mainly sedentary lives."

You lost me on that - what is this?  Are you saying it is now 'racist' to 'educate people' on poor diet?  It impacts more on Aborigines here than on Others?  It's 'condescending' to tell people that a sugar and high-carb (let's include a meat heavy) unbalanced diet is unhealthy?

Please explain?


It is racist to assume that indigenous Australians are not knowledgeable enough to know that sugar and high carbs are bad for their health. They know. They just don't care. The indigenous people in remote communities are such people that they have little to do other than to drink sugary drinks -- sometimes they sneak in alcohol -- and eat rubbish food.

They have few jobs. They have little to do other than to play football or learn how to fix cars. The women learn how to look after each others' children. And they learn how to deal with medical emergencies -- of which is often in some communities.

I could imagine the idea of "educating people on how to eat healthy" is just something that indigenous Australians learn when they tell the difference between KFC and fruit and vegetables. KFC is a treat to them. Fruit and vegetables are a fact of life.


you must be very wary of trying to cast open and free discussion of REAL issues as some ephemeral fairytale thing called 'racism'. 


Correct, I hope my reply to Sub will disabuse him of his errors. (The 'woke' - 'anti-woke' thing was fun...)

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If you listen to that kind of syrene singing, you will come to believe that the bloke who stole ten cars and murdered his wife after a series of neglects and abuses of his children is only sent to prison due to 'racism' - same as these little darlings of ten - none of whom would be in 'juvie' unless they were repeat offenders of serious crimes..... and who are clearly headed, without Intervention™, for a life of revolving door incarceration that their 'loving people' will cry is 'racist' ad somehow wrong regardless of the crimes committed.
 

Correct again....sometimes, graps.... can you maintain it....

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always remember - it is not the Majority who choose this to be about two sides, one aiming for minority supremacy over everything ................. they've already said so........   Cool


Still correct...

Now, about closing the gap.....regardless of 'lowering the age of criminal responsibility' ( a mere diversion).....

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Reply #321 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 12:43pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 12:15pm:
..regardless of 'lowering the age of criminal responsibility' ( a mere diversion).....


So he doesn't like the thread title and still posts on it. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #322 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 12:47pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 8:26pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 4:22pm:
You might ask lee to take his "climate hoax" theory and "clean pollution" theory to the correct thread.



Poor petal. You were the one brought climate to the aboriginal thread.


After carefully  explaining to you in a multiple-post exchange  how to fund a Job Guarantee, along the way you volunteered this pearl (in #283):

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Energy is NOT a renewable resource. It takes fossil fuels to make the panels, it takes fossil fuels to make the fibreglass.


Hence the AGW-CO2 diversion into this thread.

Poor lee, suffering not only low IQ, and crippled Conservative brain syndrome, but also short term memory loss.

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Except where I mentioned "climate reparations",
and not something to which you replied..


before or after #283? 

Of course I would have replied if I had seen it: developing countries aren't responsible for the vast majority  of AGW-CO2  emissions during the last 200 years. 


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  And then came your claims about "climate hoax" and "clean pollution" theories. And got exposed with your fraudulent claims. Just the headlines, can't read the papers? Grin Grin Grin Grin


To educate others about the egregious delusions of Conservative 'scarcity'  economics.

You were merely the useful idiot serving as the catalyst tfor  exposing obsolete Conservative  "scacity' economics.

Now: about the debate re closing the gap, and its relationship to lowering the age of criminal responsibility ...admittedly impossible for a crippled Conservative brain. 
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Reply #323 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 12:54pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 12:43pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 12:15pm:
..regardless of 'lowering the age of criminal responsibility' ( a mere diversion).....


So he doesn't like the thread title and still posts on it. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Crippled Conservative brain, likes to compartmentalize complex socio-economic issues.

Deplorable.

Closing the gap*, crime, criminal responsibility - are all interconnected, with causes and effects which need to be understood to fix the associated problems. 

* black-youth have higher rates of crime than non-black youth. 
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Reply #324 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 1:28pm
 
So we finally come to the hard question.....

Will sending those ten years old to a re-education facility (interesting term) lower the rate of Aboriginal youth crime and 'close' any 'gap'?  Do you think it will work or not?  If not what are your alternatives...

The Park....... direct supervision within the Park using a balanced approach of teaching them life skills including how to get on with other people in society instead of this amazing race card thing of 'war on Whartey' along with genuine 'cultural' things that will show their 'culture' in its best light instead of its worst - choice of remaining in the Park or going back to civilisation with all its benefits. They won't get away with smashing that joint ....

The Two State Solution ............ total separation and transportation into their own state, dumped at the door and handed over to the local tribal 'elders' etc for supervision and education, without any support from Majority State outside... living their pre-1788 traditional dream to the full....... without any cargo cult ... be hard to keep a lid on the comancheros though... bringing in cheap wine and three day growths and illicit smuggled Tim Tams ... they can always apply for Australian citizenship again ... and take their chances... but with a one strike rule...

What else is there?  Gondwanamo Bay?  Nah - that's for the Full Undesirables without hope of reconstruction and is not exclusive of Others who are in that category ... Bad Lebs.... Myers Christmas shutters down ........ a-breakin' rocks in the hot sun...
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Reply #325 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 2:10pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 5:33pm:
So it's not racist to say that all the Other fatties and diabeties etc are 'not knowledgeable enough' to know what's good for them?

They all do it anyway.....  you must be very wary of trying to cast open and free discussion of REAL issues as some ephemeral fairytale thing called 'racism'.  If you listen to that kind of syrene singing, you will come to believe that the bloke who stole ten cars and murdered his wife after a series of neglects and abuses of his children is only sent to prison due to 'racism' - same as these little darlings of ten - none of whom would be in 'juvie' unless they were repeat offenders of serious crimes..... and who are clearly headed, without Intervention™, for a life of revolving door incarceration that their 'loving people' will cry is 'racist' ad somehow wrong regardless of the crimes committed.

You cannot have it that way.  Choose your 'side' carefully, Grasshopper - the tide of history and reality has turned up there (Kazaly)...... best be onboard that train or miss it entirely... you can't straddle a six feet high brick fence topped with razor wire and broken bottles... and and always remember - it is not the Majority who choose this to be about two sides, one aiming for minority supremacy over everything ................. they've already said so........   Cool

I think that's it in a well-licked nutshell, don't you, Igor?



I have to respond. You are not thinking about this objectively.

What I noticed about the sore-throat virus of international reputation from 2019 to 2023 (and this year, too) was the fact that victims of the virus tend to get sick to the point that they don't recover quickly. I have had coronavirus about 3 times in the last 30 years. Some of the symptoms include nausea, headaches, vomiting, and forgetfulness. The recovery process includes getting a mild common cold so that your immune system gets a boost and then coincides its immune response system to produce antibodies to be able to handle a similar coronavirus condition.

You get bed rest. You can either drink alcohol or some kind of citrus juice. And you don't eat junk food for months.

In indigenous communities, junk food is reasonably available. It is what keeps the indigenous families somewhat happy. The diabetes of various indigenous people is what keeps them from going outdoors and picking fights. But these people are not allowed alcohol, in certain parts of the country. They. cannot. handle. alcohol.

Most people in Australia either do not know OR do not care about the health of indigenous Australians. Proportionately, indigenous people do not live in great presence in metropolitan areas. You could imagine the likes of Anthony Albanese being absolutely clueless in dealing with indigenous issues. You may well have viewed footage of Mr Albanese with that glum, sour grapes expression. He was near-absolutely unaware of how to deal with indigenous Australian people. As far as he is concerned, indigenous people are as white as he is, but poorer.

You could tell indigenous Australians how to eat healthy as much as you are tolerant to repeat yourself. You could be the best nutritionist of all time and be dedicated to helping alleviate diabetes in indigenous communities. But, as long as indigenous people do not give enough of a crap about improving their lives, they are not going to give a damn about eating a high proportion of their meals that include fruits and vegetables.

For all I care, the remote communities of indigenous Australians could use their tax-free payment of $52,000 a year on eating junk food. The more diabetics in their communities, the less likely they will want to beat up their wives and be able to sire another generation of unwanted children who go on to continue the cycle.

To wit, perhaps coronavirus patients should have isolated in indigenous communities and let the indigenous people develop their own natural immunity to the coronavirus. It would have shut them up for a few months, that is for sure.
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Reply #326 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 2:38pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 12:47pm:
Hence the AGW-CO2 diversion into this thread.

Poor lee, suffering not only low IQ, and crippled Conservative brain syndrome, but also short term memory loss.


And you still haven't posted proof of anything. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 12:47pm:
before or after #283? 


You mean my responses to your claims? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 12:47pm:
Of course I would have replied if I had seen it: developing countries aren't responsible for the vast majority  of AGW-CO2  emissions during the last 200 years.


And you haven't provided proof of any harm done. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 12:47pm:
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  And then came your claims about "climate hoax" and "clean pollution" theories. And got exposed with your fraudulent claims. Just the headlines, can't read the papers? Grin Grin Grin Grin


To educate others about the egregious delusions of Conservative 'scarcity'  economics.

You were merely the useful idiot serving as the catalyst tfor  exposing obsolete Conservative  "scacity' economics.


Nothing there about "scarcity economics". What a fraud. Can't read science but can quote headlines. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

If you can't read the science you have nothing to contribute. Wink



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Reply #327 - Nov 23rd, 2024 at 2:45pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 6:43pm:
Talking about yourself again; kids in  dysfunctional families  in poverty ghettos rarely make it to high school.

Still having trouble getting my head around that one...(the "ULAW brigade")

Help me out: are they Left wing or Right wing? 

Drug dealers are criminals lacking people skills, trying to make a quid above the poverty-level dole. Certainly they won't take kindly to your efforts to destroy their business model...

Probably related to your penchant for GIGO, let's look:

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"Woke": to be aware of one's social, political and/or economic situation.
 

Awareness is not a crime, indeed a necessity for solving problems related to socio-economic disadvantage.

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"Anti-woke": to take advantage of woke people's efforts to self-actualisation and use the woke's themes against them and their better judgement.


Your error (related to your unbalanced approach to "personal responsibility"): solving socio economic disadvantage is not "using woke themes  against the 'anti-wokes' better judgement", it's understanding the causes of socio-economic disadvantage. 

The anti-vaxxer?

Note: cleaner Maccas  won't improve the nutritional health profile of their products.

Examined and refuted above (in #315); the problem is global, related to the extensive global junk food industry, regardless of race. 

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Indigenous. people. already. know. what. is. good. for. them. and. what. is. not. The difference is that they don't care. Free money will be handed to them every fortnight. What do you do to alleviate the boredom?


Addressed above, and your errors exposed (GIGO)

Short-sided?

Says the guy who lays the blame for poverty ghettos on the victims.

"You are living in poverty, your neighborhoods are like war zones, your young men are in prison...": DJ Trump, 2016. 

Is he 'woke' - or 'antiwoke'?


Donald Trump is, genuinely, a "woke" person. The problem is that he is about 15 years too old to be president. Had he been born in 1961, he might well make for a good Republican president. But, you are dealing with someone who is 77 years old and tells some long-winded stories because of his autism. I can tell, because I go on with long-winded stories and can read between the lines, too.

As for your allegations that people from dysfunctional families rarely have their children make it to high school, that is rubbish. My family happened to earn about $15,000/yr above the poverty level. Had it not been for a few moments of PTSD inducing incidents during my childhood and teenage years, I would have started working an after-school job at age 14. But, I waited until I was 16 when I just did a paper route for $20/week ($50/week in today's terms). Then I became a delivery driver after graduating high school. My sister graduated high school. Then my spoiled idiot brother decided to stop fart-arseing about with school and became a graduate of the same high school. Ooooohhh... and that is the general disposition of many low-income families throughout regional Qld.

"Ultra-left wing anti-woke" people are obviously left wing. They are those frickin' private school pretend homosexuals who try to rebel against the establishment. They are "disestablishmentarians". I have been described as the "antidisestablishmentarian" of Qld. I happen to be anti-Communist. And I describe myself as a "woke" person. Anthony Albanese is considered "anti-woke". He would rather flatter the likes of the disestablishmentarians in a bid to try and keep his Chinese overlords sufficiently happy.

Drug-dealers have very good people skills. The unsuccessful ones are those who don't know how to manage their clients. I have even known of a police officer who became addicted to heroin, because she tried to show how "cool" she could be as an undercover agent. She is basically phucked as a police officer now. And then there is the issue of heroin dealers who became actual good citizens and work legitimate jobs, chucking in the dangerous dealing.

Let us face it, you think that having money is what makes someone a good person. Homeless people can be very good people. Have you ever slept at bus stops with nothing more than $50 in your pocket, and a rucksack to use as a pillow? I have. And I am blatantly more educated, and have lived a less privileged life than you, tgd. My police file is clean of a criminal history.

Again, I don't blame people for being poor. I blame them for not trying to resolve their impoverishment. Trying to use aboriginality as an excuse for being "ghetto" has run out of time. It ran out of "tolerance excuse" back in the year 2010. In 4 years time, we may well see the end of aboriginal privilege in Australia. 50 years of spoiling 2 generations of indigenous Australians is just too long for non-indigenous Australians.

And fkk you if you disagree. Cut your welfare payments, if you disagree.
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Are you aware of the kind of pseudointellectual villainous character you are portraying to other people? You are (evidently) not caucasian. That entitlement personality you display is obvious for all people who have not had a life of privilege. And the shakedown of state government funds is going to dry up.

I guess you will have to go back to driving those ambulances and picking up those drug overdose victims.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 2:10pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 5:33pm:
So it's not racist to say that all the Other fatties and diabeties etc are 'not knowledgeable enough' to know what's good for them?

They all do it anyway..... 

I think that's it in a well-licked nutshell, don't you, Igor?



I have to respond. You are not thinking about this objectively.


To wit, perhaps coronavirus patients should have isolated in indigenous communities and let the indigenous people develop their own natural immunity to the coronavirus. It would have shut them up for a few months, that is for sure.


so you agree that I was indeed thinking logically and that it has nothing to do with racism.  People do what they do regardless of what others think about it from a distance.... and thinking about it from a distance is not racism - it's just applying the same standards to all equally...



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