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Reply #360 - Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:21pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 2:36pm:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/net-zero-carbon-emissions-climate#:~:text=Th...

It’s possible to reach net-zero carbon emissions. Here’s how



OK NET Zero is not Zero and there is NOTHING in the article talking about renewables being able to make PV's or wind Turbines including blades.


"Cutting carbon dioxide emissions to curb climate change is possible but not easy."

That's all we need to know; ie  we have to cut CO2 emissions "to curb climate change"; and - by definition - once it's achieved, PVs and turbines etc  (all manufacturing)  will be built within the new net-zero green economy, with no ill effects on the climate., since CO2 emissions will stop increasing  ('net zero').

It's like pulling teeth..... 

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Once again reading the headlines rather than what it actually says. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Still some rotten teeth there,  I see.... Sad
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #361 - Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:35pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:21pm:
lee wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 2:36pm:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/net-zero-carbon-emissions-climate#:~:text=Th...

It’s possible to reach net-zero carbon emissions. Here’s how



OK NET Zero is not Zero and there is NOTHING in the article talking about renewables being able to make PV's or wind Turbines including blades.


"Cutting carbon dioxide emissions to curb climate change is possible but not easy."

That's all we need to know; ie  we have to cut CO2 emissions "to curb climate change"; and - by definition - once it's achieved, PVs and turbines etc  (all manufacturing)  will be built within the new net-zero green economy, with no ill effects on the climate., since CO2 emissions will stop increasing  ('net zero').

It's like pulling teeth..... 

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Once again reading the headlines rather than what it actually says. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Still some rotten teeth there,  I see.... Sad

China aint doing it. Nor India, Indonesia and the rest.
Why?

Developing country!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy China's manufacturing is twice the size of that of the US.

A third world dishonesty racket. And then they line up at the border as 'refugees'.
Lying, dishonest cheating bollocks.

Oh, but they are just like us!! CRAP.






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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #362 - Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:39pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:21pm:
That's all we need to know; ie  we have to cut CO2 emissions "to curb climate change"; and - by definition - once it's achieved, PVs and turbines etc  (all manufacturing)  will be built within the new net-zero green economy, with no ill effects on the climate., since CO2 emissions will stop increasing  ('net zero').



Rubbish. You can't even show that. Engineering isn't it your strong suit. Or even your weak suit. Roll Eyes

This would be you - "six munfs ago I kudn't even spel injineer, and now I are one." Wink

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:21pm:
Still some rotten teeth there,  I see...


Oh dear. Lost his plot again. Third gravestone down. Wink

But perhaps, remotely possible, that you can find a link.
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #363 - Nov 24th, 2024 at 9:35pm
 
We'll just leave the ten year old criminals out there and let the climate change work on them, eh?

I like the idea of the Homeland (The Park) where they can be tutored under REAL Elders..... not the ersatz kind around Alice etc... and I guess if they're going to trash the place that's nice and easy for them ... good beds and food and such .... they'll just have to sleep on a concrete slab with a stainless steel bowl bolted through the floor and a single hand basin same-same..... lights out and bed made in the morning or no brekkie...
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #364 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 8:56am
 
lee wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:39pm:
[quote author=AusbetterWorld link=1728677423/360#360 date=1732436469]That's all we need to know; ie  we have to cut CO2 emissions "to curb climate change"; and - by definition - once it's achieved, PVs and turbines etc  (all manufacturing)  will be built within the new net-zero green economy, with no ill effects on the climate., since CO2 emissions will stop increasing  ('net zero').



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Rubbish.
   

Rubbish  to you, a 'climate hoax' theorist, but  not to the Princeton researches, who have shown that "it is  possible to reduce CO2 emissions, to curb climate change".

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You can't even show that.


I defer to the the reseachers at Princeton. 

Do try to keep up.
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Reply #365 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:01am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:21pm:
lee wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 2:36pm:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/net-zero-carbon-emissions-climate#:~:text=Th...

It’s possible to reach net-zero carbon emissions. Here’s how



OK NET Zero is not Zero and there is NOTHING in the article talking about renewables being able to make PV's or wind Turbines including blades.


"Cutting carbon dioxide emissions to curb climate change is possible but not easy."

That's all we need to know; ie  we have to cut CO2 emissions "to curb climate change"; and - by definition - once it's achieved, PVs and turbines etc  (all manufacturing)  will be built within the new net-zero green economy, with no ill effects on the climate., since CO2 emissions will stop increasing  ('net zero').

It's like pulling teeth..... 

Quote:
Once again reading the headlines rather than what it actually says. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Still some rotten teeth there,  I see.... Sad

China aint doing it. Nor India, Indonesia and the rest.
Why?

Developing country!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy China's manufacturing is twice the size of that of the US.

A third world dishonesty racket. And then they line up at the border as 'refugees'.
Lying, dishonest cheating bollocks.

Oh, but they are just like us!! CRAP.


fyi, China is now the world's largest producer of renewable energy, and is rapidly reducing  the proportion of coal in its energy mix, should peak around 2030, on the way to net zero  by 2060.

Do try to keep up.







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Reply #366 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:09am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 9:35pm:
We'll just leave the ten year old criminals out there and let the climate change work on them, eh?



No, now you are descending into mental chaos, unable to address socio-economc realities among different racial groups and groups with different social status;  and causes of crime -  and would rather navel gaze re the age of criminal responsibility. 

And diversions via lee's 'climate hoax' theory, won't save you from demonstrating your mental incompetence.





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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #367 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:17am
 
The largest producer of renewable energy, perhaps. But proportionally, many Western countries use renewable energy at a greater extent than China.

It is heartbreaking to see Chinese city motorways jammed packed full of motorists (who sometimes sleep in their cars) because they cannot consider working closer to home. Meanwhile, you have places like metropolitan Australia with populations  exceeding 1 million people having highways that, even in peak rush hour, still are able to get people from one side of the city to the other in less than an hour's drive.

A lot of people drive from one side of the city to the other. Whereas, many people are either working from home, or are walking the 2km to work.

Renewables are great for homes in metropolitan Australia. Many people using solar panels are saving a bunch on fuel costs because their electricity prices are manageable (even with house prices and hybrid cars being so high). I would be paying $2.50/L if there were not so many richer Aussies making the investment to take pressure off of the oil consumption.
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #368 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:25am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:14pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 5:36pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 4:49pm:
There is no possible way for me to prove to you that I was the person in the world of 6 billion (at the time) to define the word that a cleaning lady at my high school mentioned.
 

But.... wikipedia:

Among the earliest uses of the idea of wokeness as a concept for black political consciousness came from Jamaican philosopher and social activist Marcus Garvey,[2] who wrote in 1923, "Wake up Ethiopia! Wake up Africa!

and

By the mid-20th century, woke had come to mean 'well-informed' or 'aware',[12] especially in a political or cultural sense.[7] The Oxford English Dictionary traces the earliest such usage to a 1962 New York Times Magazine article titled "If You're Woke You Dig It" by African-American novelist William Melvin Kelley, describing the appropriation of black slang by white beatniks.[7] 

a bit before your 1993 defintion of a word used by the cleaning lady at your school?


(Unf
u
ckingbelievable)...


What's unbelievable? The wiki definition of woke?

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If I went around to your residence and knocked on your bedroom window, asking "Are you woke?" you would either respond verbally, or not at all.


If I was awake (!) , I would answer: Yes.....meaning (literally)  awake ...AND (definitionally) aware of the socio economic realities of my life and that of my neighbours.

Heard on the radio today:

a Catholic bishop saying: "forget the word "woke", it's time to get those boys back from the prison in  Bali, they have paid the price and suffered enough".

Unlike the very antiwoke (very asleep) horrible woman Michaelia Cash  who was raving and ranting yesterday, demanding the PM explain why he was working to release contemptible drug smugglers  ....you see, RW "tough on crime" will fix the world...

Deplorable.

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Reply #369 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:29am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:09am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 9:35pm:
We'll just leave the ten year old criminals out there and let the climate change work on them, eh?



No, now you are descending into mental chaos, unable to address socio-economc realities among different racial groups and groups with different social status;  and causes of crime -  and would rather navel gaze re the age of criminal responsibility. 

And diversions via lee's 'climate hoax' theory, won't save you from demonstrating your mental incompetence.


Let me guess: You are still an ultra-liberal condescending try-hard that thinks that adopting communism will solve troubled minorities from their self-inflicted impoverishment.

I have a theory that you should entertain: You have had such an easy life that you don't know what you are talking about.

Why would you even begin to think that a person living in metropolitan Australia would have socioeconomic problems because of their racial background or minority status? How often do you go outside and out to a pub, club, restaurant, movie theatre, coffee shop and see indigenous Australians enjoying the same benefits as the rest of non-indigenous Australians? Quite a considerable number, I would surmise.

Why do some indigenous youth have attitude problems? Because they have grown up in a family unit where their fathers (and mothers) have not given much of a damn about their upbringing or disciplinary issues. With magistrate courts under instruction to go lenient with indigenous youths, it is no surprise that the prison system has a revolving door, if someone identifies as indigenous.

Australia is a soft touch society, if you are indigenous. And people who are darker skinned than the majority of Australia's population are applying to come to Australia as refugees or actual migrants, for the sake of soaking up that "free ride" that ultraliberals like Anthony Albanese thinks will get him sainthood with the United Nations.
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #370 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:57am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:25am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:14pm:
(Unf
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ckingbelievable)...


What's unbelievable? The wiki definition of woke?

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If I went around to your residence and knocked on your bedroom window, asking "Are you woke?" you would either respond verbally, or not at all.


If I was awake (!) , I would answer: Yes.....meaning (literally)  awake ...AND (definitionally) aware of the socio economic realities of my life and that of my neighbours.

Heard on the radio today:

a Catholic bishop saying: "forget the word "woke", it's time to get those boys back from the prison in  Bali, they have paid the price and suffered enough".

Unlike the very antiwoke (very asleep) horrible woman Michaelia Cash  who was raving and ranting yesterday, demanding the PM explain why he was working to release contemptible drug smugglers  ....you see, RW "tough on crime" will fix the world...

Deplorable.


What is "unf
u
ckingbelieveable" is your continuous belief that Australia is racially discriminatory against minorities because of our economic system. Money does not grow on trees, tgd. The money has to come from somewhere. And if you don't understand this by now, you are either too young to be typing on such issues. Or you have your hand in the biscuit container, just daring your siblings to go tell your parents what you are rebelliously trying to do -- if I can use an analogy to emphasize a point.

I should be more direct. You are one of those people on the free rides. The very idea of being made to work smart is so degrading to you that you wish someone would gang up on people like me and have me transferred to a desk job. Think of it like this: I have been there and done that. I am getting close to being 46 years old, and I hardly think that is old. But I have seen more shhtuff happen around me that even military veterans think that they should be saluting me. I am not even in the military.

Re: "woke". At some point between being asleep and being awake, there is a point where you are almost awake but still asleep. You might lay in bed for a few minutes trying to get your mindset bearings right. Once you get out of bed and get your coffee/breakfast into you, you have undergone being "woke".

For me, if I down a bottle of scotch, I might lay in bed awake the next day being as "woke" as I can get (thinking how I wasted 50 dollars) to make myself sick. I think about all the things I could have done with the money. I wonder who I have drunk texted. I imagine that the rest of the day will include having to do yard work to make the most of the hangover. And then I debate whether my father will discover my bottle of scotch I left on the countertop, where Dad has this idea that I am some kind of alcoholic because I drink every 3 or 4 weeks. He gets all uppity because he cannot handle alcohol and thinks that I cannot, either.

THAT is a thorough understanding of what being "woke" is all about.

Or I could go on about being shot in the left shoulder by an indigenous drug dealer, all because I told off his nephew. Added to that was the fact that I could not go to the police about it. I then find out, 12 years later, that the drug dealer was in the Australian Army. So, there was little hope of being helped by the police, unless they wanted to suffer some kind of issues from the ADF.
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Reply #371 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 10:09am
 
You may want to reconsider who the villains are in the prison system, tgd. The Bali Nine, although I would not want them as neighbours, are the type of people who got blackmailed into being drug couriers. It was either they do the deed, or they go home to see the funeral of certain family members. You might want to lay the blame against the racist ring leaders Andrew Chan and Sukumuran. I would absolutely want to see the remainder of the group brought home from that stupid detention. If you have ever had drugs planted in your car as a taxi driver, and your next stop was at a place where the next passenger just happens to collect the suitcase/carrybag, you would understand the situation.

The Indonesians are just playing with your naivety. And you are too spoiled to realise that the Indonesians are fooling nobody but you and your ilk. The Bali Nine was perfect free tourism for Indonesians to get these loudmouth all-year-round tanned white people out of their pristine island country, and have them replaced with Asiatic tourists from emerging East Asian markets.
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Reply #372 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 11:23am
 
The purest definition of Woke is:-  "This is my opinion!  And you can't have yours if it disagrees!"

Not worth arguing about really.

Hence Grapplerdamus has designer created the term "Truly Woke" for those of us who actually have an idea what is actually going on.  There are quite a few here - some I don't agree with on every issue, but they know WTF they are talking about... others, of course, once they become calcified in their ideological stance - see only friends and enemies around them... either you lick the nuts of their favourite groups de jour or you are a mortal enemy - you see that kind of stupid non-thinking with most nasty cysts ... those who blindly yet unblinkingly follow the ideas of butchering children, or supporting murderous Arabs in Gaza (Eyeless In Gaza from too much application of the bleach) in their genocidal mania, or unthinkingly supporting every claim from 'certain groups' over the past and present and how they came to live in the gutters of Western life and their claim to hold total control over Australia ... along with their equally mindless rhetoric in place of actual discussion..... you all know who I mean.... and they are all clearly insane and should be in the asylums.
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Reply #373 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 11:49am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 11:23am:
The purest definition of Woke is:-  "This is my opinion!  And you can't have yours if it disagrees!"

Not worth arguing about really.


No. That is the subjective definition to being "anti-woke". "Woke" people will allow you to have an opinion.

"Anti-woke" people think that the world owes them a living because they grew up poor; disabled; abused; gay; drugged; alcoholic parents; uneducated parents, etc.
Anti-woke people will push some bullshit agenda about how their personal preferences are more important than the normally accepted standards of the society deem them to be.
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Reply #374 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 12:07pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 1:23pm:
mothra wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 4:45am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 3:47am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 23rd, 2024 at 4:19pm:
Well - there is Woke and then there is Truly Woke......   Shocked


There is "woke" and there is "anti-woke". Being the person that coined the terminology (in 1993), I can tell you the difference.

thegreatdivide is definitely "anti-woke".



Coined the word? Get your hand off it.


Rocky, your delusions are getting scary. Seriously, seek help.


The word "woke" was started by indigenous Central Queenslanders. When I heard the word "woke", I wondered what they meant. One told me it means "when someone wakes up". Her husband had been on the booze for sometime, the night before. He got out of bed at 10am. The phrase "Is he woke?" had been used for sometime.

My high school friends and I decided to put a meaning to the word. Out of the definitions that were put forth, my definition "to be aware of one's social situation" was the most favoured. I was 14 years old when I decided that was what it meant. That was August, 1993.

Somehow, the word made it through the community. And even though people deem me the originator of that word, "woke" started to have a different meaning for places out of town. For some reason, "woke" is now synonymous with being "ultra liberal". THat is NOT what it means. By the end of high school, a girl decided to define what the antonym of "woke" meant. I will accept her definition of "anti-woke" to mean "being against the moral principles of being woke". Although, I have a more broader term for the word. So, that is basically the issue. "Woke" made its way out of the country by 1998, and the Americans are trying to claim credit for an Australian originated word. Some cleaning lady at my high school originated the word. I just put a definition to the word.


When you create your little stories to pimp yourself, Rocky, you'd be better off sticking to things other people know nothing about ... lest you come undone.

The term 'woke' has been part of the Black American lexicon for about 100 years. It simply means being "awake" to social injustice, particularly pertaining to Black people.

The first appearance of the word in an academic paper is n 1942. Hell, even MLK spoke about people needing to be "awake".

It still means the same thing now, it has simply extended it's meaning to cover more issues.




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