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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #390 - Nov 25th, 2024 at 10:19pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 6:02pm:
More bullshyte....

you should get back on your schizo meds ....

Grin Abos invented "woke" & you coined the phrase "OK Boomer"?  Grin Grin Grin

You are a dead set fruitloop.


It is called "autism". I was misdiagnosed by a bunch of racist South Asian doctors, because they don't have the facilities in Pakistan or India to understand how the mind works.

Perhaps I missed my calling and I should have studied to become a doctor. I already have an academic paper published on academia.org. I won't tell you the name of the article. But it is a 5000 word essay on the impact of landforms on weather systems.

By the way, why would you have doubts about a Central Queenslander (who won a boomerang competition in primary school) about coining the phrase "Okay Boomer"?
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #391 - Nov 26th, 2024 at 7:36am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 6:43pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 6:07pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:01am:
Frank wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:21pm:
lee wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 2:36pm:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/net-zero-carbon-emissions-climate#:~:text=Th...

It’s possible to reach net-zero carbon emissions. Here’s how



OK NET Zero is not Zero and there is NOTHING in the article talking about renewables being able to make PV's or wind Turbines including blades.


"Cutting carbon dioxide emissions to curb climate change is possible but not easy."

That's all we need to know; ie  we have to cut CO2 emissions "to curb climate change"; and - by definition - once it's achieved, PVs and turbines etc  (all manufacturing)  will be built within the new net-zero green economy, with no ill effects on the climate., since CO2 emissions will stop increasing  ('net zero').

It's like pulling teeth..... 

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Once again reading the headlines rather than what it actually says. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Still some rotten teeth there,  I see.... Sad

China aint doing it. Nor India, Indonesia and the rest.
Why?

Developing country!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy China's manufacturing is twice the size of that of the US.

A third world dishonesty racket. And then they line up at the border as 'refugees'.
Lying, dishonest cheating bollocks.

Oh, but they are just like us!! CRAP.


fyi, China is now the world's largest producer of renewable energy, and is rapidly reducing  the proportion of coal in its energy mix, should peak around 2030, on the way to net zero  by 2060.

Do try to keep up.


Yeah cheap shyte to flog off - making a squillion on - to gullible western countries like us ... being run by ideologue lefty govts.


China is currently in some trouble owing to wrong advice from western trained economists in the PBofC.

But Chinese PVs EVs, turbines smart phones  are top quality these days: Chinese consuners are discerning and voting with their feet, preferring BYDs to Teslas, and:

Quote:
Last year, Apple became the biggest smartphone vendor by shipments in China for the first time.
In 2023, Honor, a spin-off from Chinese company Huawei, held the second spot with 16.8% market share, followed by Vivo, Huawei and then Oppo.
One of the biggest changes in 2023 was Huawei’s return to the top five ranking in China in the fourth quarter.


Huawei rises again after being crippled by paranoid Western "security" nonsense....

And Indonesia  chose China to build its  first high speed rail system - the yanks, and Oz,  don't even have high speed rail, China's system is the largest in the world.

No room for "cheap shyte" in HS rail.....requires cutting edge tech.    


There's nothing non sense about it. It's also a concern in their electric cars.

Are you a CCP shill?
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #392 - Nov 26th, 2024 at 7:43am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 10:19pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 6:02pm:
More bullshyte....

you should get back on your schizo meds ....

Grin Abos invented "woke" & you coined the phrase "OK Boomer"?  Grin Grin Grin

You are a dead set fruitloop.


It is called "autism". I was misdiagnosed by a bunch of racist South Asian doctors, because they don't have the facilities in Pakistan or India to understand how the mind works.

Perhaps I missed my calling and I should have studied to become a doctor. I already have an academic paper published on academia.org. I won't tell you the name of the article. But it is a 5000 word essay on the impact of landforms on weather systems.

By the way, why would you have doubts about a Central Queenslander (who won a boomerang competition in primary school) about coining the phrase "Okay Boomer"?


Yeah OK ... I believe you  Grin  Roll Eyes thousands wouldn't.


Well because you didn't.... it's all in your imagination ... that you believe ... your autism???

I have  2 autistic grandsons .... so have been down the "vivid imagination" path twice ...

the older one(15 yrs old) seems to have grown out of the ludicrous claims/fictitious story inventing ....

when do you think you will? Grin
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #393 - Nov 26th, 2024 at 10:36am
 
Rocky - you've been wandering around in age for the past few days.... just yesterday you said 'fifteen years after you were in Year 10' (my map hand drawn about 3-4 weeks ago that you seem to think was yours) - so about 30 .. day before you were 50 or so...

Find those tablets!!

Be careful you don't end up like Skanka and messra - one day your truth floating past on the Ozpol river...

I've always been who and what I say I am... there was once a website that blasted me and caused endless trouble - it is no more and the prime mover of all the lies therein was discredited, shown to be a liar (not to mention a thief), and even given a back-hander from the Veteran community.... in writing!  Now he is a scared old man .... and I know where he lives and he has no idea where I am.... every trembling leaf... every falling branch... every shuffle of wind past the windows at night..... every cold rainy night..... is a long one for him ..... he's seen me in action ............. he is begging to be left alone............ watcha reckon?

People can sow falsehoods and cause trouble in a moment - it takes years at times to set things right..... right is a hard thing to come by... use is carefully......
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #394 - Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:22am
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 7:36am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 6:43pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 6:07pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:01am:
Frank wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:21pm:
lee wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 2:36pm:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/net-zero-carbon-emissions-climate#:~:text=Th...

It’s possible to reach net-zero carbon emissions. Here’s how



OK NET Zero is not Zero and there is NOTHING in the article talking about renewables being able to make PV's or wind Turbines including blades.


"Cutting carbon dioxide emissions to curb climate change is possible but not easy."

That's all we need to know; ie  we have to cut CO2 emissions "to curb climate change"; and - by definition - once it's achieved, PVs and turbines etc  (all manufacturing)  will be built within the new net-zero green economy, with no ill effects on the climate., since CO2 emissions will stop increasing  ('net zero').

It's like pulling teeth..... 

Quote:
Once again reading the headlines rather than what it actually says. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Still some rotten teeth there,  I see.... Sad

China aint doing it. Nor India, Indonesia and the rest.
Why?

Developing country!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy China's manufacturing is twice the size of that of the US.

A third world dishonesty racket. And then they line up at the border as 'refugees'.
Lying, dishonest cheating bollocks.

Oh, but they are just like us!! CRAP.


fyi, China is now the world's largest producer of renewable energy, and is rapidly reducing  the proportion of coal in its energy mix, should peak around 2030, on the way to net zero  by 2060.

Do try to keep up.


Yeah cheap shyte to flog off - making a squillion on - to gullible western countries like us ... being run by ideologue lefty govts.


China is currently in some trouble owing to wrong advice from western trained economists in the PBofC.

But Chinese PVs EVs, turbines smart phones  are top quality these days: Chinese consuners are discerning and voting with their feet, preferring BYDs to Teslas, and:

Quote:
Last year, Apple became the biggest smartphone vendor by shipments in China for the first time.
In 2023, Honor, a spin-off from Chinese company Huawei, held the second spot with 16.8% market share, followed by Vivo, Huawei and then Oppo.
One of the biggest changes in 2023 was Huawei’s return to the top five ranking in China in the fourth quarter.


Huawei rises again after being crippled by paranoid Western "security" nonsense....

And Indonesia  chose China to build its  first high speed rail system - the yanks, and Oz,  don't even have high speed rail, China's system is the largest in the world.

No room for "cheap shyte" in HS rail.....requires cutting edge tech.    


There's nothing non sense about it. It's also a concern in their electric cars.


All electric cars (including Teslas)  ...all devices with IC, IT and AI capacities, capture data. 

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Are you a CCP shill?


No; otoh, I KNOW (without asking)  you are a delusional "freedom" ideologue who would immolate the world over a political dispute between Chinese people living on  Taiwan versus Chinese people living on the mainland.

(For a while after 1945,  the predecessors to the current DPP "freedom" ideologues on Taiwan claimed THEY were the government of China...until reality sank in after the UN recognized the mainland's sovereignty of China).

Now - back to dealing with youth crime and closing the gap, despite such considerations not being your strong suit, you being a delusional "freedom" Conservative ideologue (in economics, a self-interested free-marketeer, with poverty level 'welfare' for those unable to compete in the market).

Deplorable

Meantime the arguments over "woke" among the blind (most unawake) people here continue, when the nation faces  exploding youth crime rates and a persistent black gap.
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #395 - Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:27pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 11:22am:
Gnads wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 7:36am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 6:43pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 6:07pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 25th, 2024 at 9:01am:
Frank wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:21pm:
lee wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 2:53pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 2:36pm:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/net-zero-carbon-emissions-climate#:~:text=Th...

It’s possible to reach net-zero carbon emissions. Here’s how



OK NET Zero is not Zero and there is NOTHING in the article talking about renewables being able to make PV's or wind Turbines including blades.


"Cutting carbon dioxide emissions to curb climate change is possible but not easy."

That's all we need to know; ie  we have to cut CO2 emissions "to curb climate change"; and - by definition - once it's achieved, PVs and turbines etc  (all manufacturing)  will be built within the new net-zero green economy, with no ill effects on the climate., since CO2 emissions will stop increasing  ('net zero').

It's like pulling teeth..... 

Quote:
Once again reading the headlines rather than what it actually says. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Still some rotten teeth there,  I see.... Sad

China aint doing it. Nor India, Indonesia and the rest.
Why?

Developing country!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy China's manufacturing is twice the size of that of the US.

A third world dishonesty racket. And then they line up at the border as 'refugees'.
Lying, dishonest cheating bollocks.

Oh, but they are just like us!! CRAP.


fyi, China is now the world's largest producer of renewable energy, and is rapidly reducing  the proportion of coal in its energy mix, should peak around 2030, on the way to net zero  by 2060.

Do try to keep up.


Yeah cheap shyte to flog off - making a squillion on - to gullible western countries like us ... being run by ideologue lefty govts.


China is currently in some trouble owing to wrong advice from western trained economists in the PBofC.

But Chinese PVs EVs, turbines smart phones  are top quality these days: Chinese consuners are discerning and voting with their feet, preferring BYDs to Teslas, and:

Quote:
Last year, Apple became the biggest smartphone vendor by shipments in China for the first time.
In 2023, Honor, a spin-off from Chinese company Huawei, held the second spot with 16.8% market share, followed by Vivo, Huawei and then Oppo.
One of the biggest changes in 2023 was Huawei’s return to the top five ranking in China in the fourth quarter.


Huawei rises again after being crippled by paranoid Western "security" nonsense....

And Indonesia  chose China to build its  first high speed rail system - the yanks, and Oz,  don't even have high speed rail, China's system is the largest in the world.

No room for "cheap shyte" in HS rail.....requires cutting edge tech.    


There's nothing non sense about it. It's also a concern in their electric cars.


All electric cars (including Teslas)  ...all devices with IC, IT and AI capacities, capture data. 

Quote:
Are you a CCP shill?


No; otoh, I KNOW (without asking)  you are a delusional "freedom" ideologue who would immolate the world over a political dispute between Chinese people living on  Taiwan versus Chinese people living on the mainland.

(For a while after 1945,  the predecessors to the current DPP "freedom" ideologues on Taiwan claimed THEY were the government of China...until reality sank in after the UN recognized the mainland's sovereignty of China).

Now - back to dealing with youth crime and closing the gap, despite such considerations not being your strong suit, you being a delusional "freedom" Conservative ideologue (in economics, a self-interested free-marketeer, with poverty level 'welfare' for those unable to compete in the market).

Deplorable

Meantime the arguments over "woke" among the blind (most unawake) people here continue, when the nation faces  exploding youth crime rates and a persistent black gap.   



How typically presumptuous of you.

And yet you can give no answers to remedy same without delving into your pipe dream ideologies.
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #396 - Nov 26th, 2024 at 3:03pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:27pm:
TGD:
Meantime the arguments over "woke" among the blind (most unawake) people here continue, when the nation faces  exploding youth crime rates and a persistent black gap 


How typically presumptuous of you.


The 'personal responsibility' mantra gives you away.

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And yet you can give no answers to remedy same without delving into your pipe dream ideologies.


Well....how about paying much higher taxes, to get rid of generational poverty and associated youth crime?

But I must warn you, the scale of the necessary government intervention will be costly for your bank balance, if you keep insisting the currency-issuing government can only  fund itself with your money (via taxes) ....
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Reply #397 - Nov 26th, 2024 at 5:18pm
 
Yes - Der Schtaat will assume all responsibility for our Aborigines and youth crime and all that... they will all be punished to the full at the mercy of the state.... but their defence must therefore be easy - I have no responsibility here, Your Honour ... the STATE holds all power and the individual none, not even in his own life and actions. Can I go now?
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Reply #398 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:17am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 3:03pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:27pm:
TGD:
Meantime the arguments over "woke" among the blind (most unawake) people here continue, when the nation faces  exploding youth crime rates and a persistent black gap 


How typically presumptuous of you.


The 'personal responsibility' mantra gives you away.

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And yet you can give no answers to remedy same without delving into your pipe dream ideologies.


Well....how about paying much higher taxes, to get rid of generational poverty and associated youth crime?

But I must warn you, the scale of the necessary government intervention will be costly for your bank balance, if you keep insisting the currency-issuing government can only  fund itself with your money (via taxes) ....


The taxation rate in Australia is one of the highest in the world.

When the top rate amounts to nearly half every dollar you earn.... how much do you think is enough?

Seems all you want to do is to drag every one down to the same level ..... poverty.

Now what does that sound like???  Roll Eyes
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Reply #399 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 10:32am
 
'youth crime' - largely Black.... sorry 'bout that.

'persistent black gap' ... well - you can't close a gap by reaching out from one side all the time when the other side doesn't want to grasp the hand of friendship extended.

Countless billions of dollars have been wasted trying to 'close the gaps' that the people who are gapped refuse to close.
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Reply #400 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 12:47pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 5:18pm:
Yes - Der Schtaat will assume all responsibility for our Aborigines and youth crime and all that... they will all be punished to the full at the mercy of the state.... but their defence must therefore be easy - I have no responsibility here, Your Honour ... the STATE holds all power and the individual none, not even in his own life and actions. Can I go now?


No you can't. 

fyi, the state will ensure all can participate in the economy above poverty level, without resort to disastrous incentive-destroying 'welfare'

After that, individuals will have the personal responsibilty to avoid grog, smokes etc, obey the law, and contribute as best they can.
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Reply #401 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 12:59pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 12:47pm:
fyi, the state will ensure all can participate in the economy above poverty level, without resort to disastrous incentive-destroying 'welfare'. 



So a welfare system that is not welfare. Got it.

Sit down shelling peas money instead of sit down money. Roll Eyes
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Reply #402 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 1:12pm
 
Gnads wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 8:17am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 3:03pm:
Gnads wrote on Nov 26th, 2024 at 1:27pm:
TGD:
Meantime the arguments over "woke" among the blind (most unawake) people here continue, when the nation faces  exploding youth crime rates and a persistent black gap 


How typically presumptuous of you.


The 'personal responsibility' mantra gives you away.

Quote:
And yet you can give no answers to remedy same without delving into your pipe dream ideologies.


Well....how about paying much higher taxes, to get rid of generational poverty and associated youth crime?

But I must warn you, the scale of the necessary government intervention will be costly for your bank balance, if you keep insisting the currency-issuing government can only  fund itself with your money (via taxes) ....


The taxation rate in Australia is one of the highest in the world.

When the top rate amounts to nearly half every dollar you earn.... how much do you think is enough?


Income tax is only one tax. Wealth taxes,  inheritance taxes, land taxes all need to be considered. See the Henry Tax review which is ignored by cowardly governments. 

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Seems all you want to do is to drag every one down to the same level ..... poverty.
 

No. I want to end the insanity of Musk soon being the world's first $trillionaire (equivalent to the entire wealth of Oz) and the hideous idea that billionaires "earned" their wealth by "hard work" , when the system enabled such grotesque accumulation of wealth to individuals.
Indeed some aware ("woke") billionaires are urging governments to impose higher taxes on rich people, before capitalism collapses.   

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Now what does that sound like???  Roll Eyes


"Dragging everyone down to the same level" ...that's the Conservative lie: ending hideous wealth accumlaition by some, and curbing soaring inequality   is NOT "bringing everyone down to the same level".

Only your blind Conservative ideology can lead you to that error.

Meantime,  I'm educating you:

"Money doesn't grow on rich people". Stephanie Kelton.

..provided government can have access to some of the nation's resources, before the rich comandeer them - like Gina has comandeered $22 billion of Oz iron wealth (Oz resources) for herself, with the connivance of government.

Deplorable.   
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Reply #403 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 1:26pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 12:59pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 12:47pm:
fyi, the state will ensure all can participate in the economy above poverty level, without resort to disastrous incentive-destroying 'welfare'. 



So a welfare system that is not welfare. Got it.

Sit down shelling peas money instead of sit down money. Roll Eyes


Your error (it's so easy with you...):  activity which the community would like to be done, but which isn't done within the regular job market - because monetary profit - as opposed to intrinsic value - isn't readily extracted  in the regular job market.

Never mind, you don't have the capacity to undestand 'intrinsic value', 'public amenity' etc.

Better to let people rot on 'welfare'.

Sad.   
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Reply #404 - Nov 27th, 2024 at 2:50pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 27th, 2024 at 1:26pm:
our error (it's so easy with you...):  activity which the community would like to be done, but which isn't done within the regular job market - because monetary profit - as opposed to intrinsic value - isn't readily extracted  in the regular job market.


So which activity is this? Recycling the car junk yards? You should see them in the Kimberley's and NT. Roll Eyes
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