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Reply #405 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 3:33pm

First ye smells jobs where there be no jobs..... and all around the whole earth is still as the grave .... the machines be quiet as death....... nothing is heard but ye feel it like a volcano .... and He Rises! Moby Dick - the Great White Whale Jobs Hunt.... curse thee, thou dam-ned whale!

Well - I did offer to put Gondwanamo up there (Kazaly) in the Homeland area and give jobs as guards and such, and dog handlers in the hunt for escapees... plenty of Tim Tams in that!!

What? Pay 'em to keep their rubbish clear? We already pay for the 'council' to do that - what are they doing? Drinking all the profits or something? Grin

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Reply #406 - Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:05pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 7:43am:

Yeah OK ... I believe you Grin

thousands wouldn't.

Well because you didn't.... it's all in your imagination ... that you believe ... your autism???

I have 2 autistic grandsons .... so have been down the "vivid imagination" path twice ...

the older one(15 yrs old) seems to have grown out of the ludicrous claims/fictitious story inventing ....

when do you think you will? Grin

I have already admitted that I occasionally embellish my stories to give them more flair. But, usually these stories are based upon real events. I will give you a few examples of real stories vs embellished stories.

Real story: When I was 10 years old, I was shot in the left shoulder by a drug dealer.
Embellished story: I was shot multiple times by gang members and managed to crawl to safety.

Real story: I have been bitten by snakes several times.
Embellished story: I fell into a pit of snakes where I managed to dodge every strike that they made a me.

Real story: I am the biological father of nearly 60 children worldwide (including 30 in Australia). Two of my biological children participated in the Paris Olympics. One of them is a gold medalist. The other ran in the 5000 metres final.
Embellished story: Of the 5 illegitimate children that I have fathered, 4 of them were through sleeping with 2 married women. Both husbands watched me impregnate their wives.
Actual story: I almost dated my 21 y.o. daughter a couple of years ago (before I found out that she was my biological daughter. Her mother is part indigenous. My 24 y.o. daughter watched her niece get baptised at the church my mother attends. Mum does not realise that she is a great-grandmother.

Somehow, I don't believe you would accept the real stories as true, either.

I submitted a 5000 words essay on the topic of landforms impact on weather systems. academia.org accepted the essay. I still get emails congratulating me on a well-researched topic.

By the way, the university has put a ban on me, because of my autism. I called them out because the CQU is being used as a drug den. A former worker there told me that the administration is all about dealing drugs. Security has been called on me about 4 times in the past 2 months (including twice in the last week). If you see some guy in Rockhampton being questioned by police regarding a trespass, it will likely be me.

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #407 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 12:40am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 10:36am:

Rocky - you've been wandering around in age for the past few days.... just yesterday you said 'fifteen years after you were in Year 10' (my map hand drawn about 3-4 weeks ago that you seem to think was yours) - so about 30 .. day before you were 50 or so...

Find those tablets!!

Medication has done nothing to change the behavioural problems of other people. When I take antipsychotic medication, I get health problems.

I have been on a low-sugar diet for 4 months. I have lost 15kg. If I go on medication, I gain weight. What I tell you online is made to be deflective of identifying myself. You can tell when I am telling the truth. You can tell when I am making up stories. And you can tell when I am embellishing a real story to make myself sound funny.

That map you have shown is something similar to a map of Qld we had to label for our Social Studies subject in the year 1994. Most students did their own labeling of the regions. I cannot remember what I put for mine. I think I put "Awesomeland" for Central Queensland. And for southwestern Qld, I put "GetfuggedIamnotgoingoutthereland".

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #408 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 9:15am

"The meaning of IRE is intense and usually openly displayed anger. "

It's a pity that Eire already took the name Ireland..... that nasty south east corner could well be described as the land where the ire of the rest is directed.

Anyway - great advances require great minds and great efforts... now I've offered yez all the GAIA concepts ... I've offered yez the Two State Solution to resolve the Aboriginal issues and let them do things their way .... I've offered yez Gondwanamo Bay for the True Recalcitrants - I even mentioned, years ago, the mooted spaceport for Cape Yorke, though it was someone else's idea long before the Queensland government decided it was useless enough to hand to the Abos etc so now they can reap royalties for the noise of rockets on the fly ...... a quasi-Homeland but still supported by the blood, sweat and tears of the majority.... like Arnhem Land .... No Country For White Men Or Yellow Men but still paid for out of their pockets and labour etc....

All that nonsense comes from the little south east corner that is so out of touch with the rest (a.k.a. The Rumphole) .... so I bring you, in all earnestness, the very forward-looking plan to demolish Queensland (and other states and territories) as it now stands, and create of it smaller and more manageable and more contiguous in nature and thought states more in keeping with the local people.

In the short term -

Brisbane Has Fallen ... Darwin Has Fallen

... the left is in retreat......

Aside:- Jeez - wouldya look at that? Fatima Payman (she of the two sovereignties) advocates that those guilty of terrorist acts be stripped of citizenship and exiled..... what a wonderful woman. Pity she's on the wrong side of history now .......

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #409 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 1:02pm

lee wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 2:50pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 1:26pm:

our error (it's so easy with you...): activity which the community would like to be done, but which isn't done within the regular job market - because monetary profit - as opposed to intrinsic value - isn't readily extracted in the regular job market.

So which activity is this? Recycling the car junk yards? You should see them in the Kimberley's and NT. Roll Eyes

Yes, that's ONE such activity. The yards could be tidied up and the parts recycled, indeed.

Win-win, for workers with full time minimum wage and conditions jobs (not drinking themselves to death, and/or doing crime on sitdown money) and also the public amenity (enviroment, etc).

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #411 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 1:36pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 1:12pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:17am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 3:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:27pm:

TGD:

Meantime the arguments over "woke" among the blind (most unawake) people here continue, when the nation faces exploding youth crime rates and a persistent black gap

How typically presumptuous of you.

The 'personal responsibility' mantra gives you away.

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And yet you can give no answers to remedy same without delving into your pipe dream ideologies.

Well....how about paying much higher taxes, to get rid of generational poverty and associated youth crime?

But I must warn you, the scale of the necessary government intervention will be costly for your bank balance, if you keep insisting the currency-issuing government can only fund itself with your money (via taxes) ....

The taxation rate in Australia is one of the highest in the world.

When the top rate amounts to nearly half every dollar you earn.... how much do you think is enough?

Income tax is only one tax. Wealth taxes, inheritance taxes, land taxes all need to be considered. See the Henry Tax review which is ignored by cowardly governments.

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Seems all you want to do is to drag every one down to the same level ..... poverty.

No. I want to end the insanity of Musk soon being the world's first $trillionaire (equivalent to the entire wealth of Oz) and the hideous idea that billionaires "earned" their wealth by "hard work" , when the system enabled such grotesque accumulation of wealth to individuals.
Indeed some aware ("woke") billionaires are urging governments to impose higher taxes on rich people, before capitalism collapses.

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Now what does that sound like??? Roll Eyes

"Dragging everyone down to the same level" ...that's the Conservative lie: ending hideous wealth accumlaition by some, and curbing soaring inequality is NOT "bringing everyone down to the same level".

Only your blind Conservative ideology can lead you to that error.

Meantime, I'm educating you:

"Money doesn't grow on rich people". Stephanie Kelton.

..provided government can have access to some of the nation's resources, before the rich comandeer them - like Gina has comandeered $22 billion of Oz iron wealth (Oz resources) for herself, with the connivance of government.

Deplorable.

Yes we are overtaxed .... and your answer is to tax us more. FFS you're as bad as any politician.

You think you are Roll Eyes

BHP, Fortesque and the Chinese own more Iron ore than Gina.

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Reply #412 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 1:55pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 1:36pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 1:12pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:17am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 3:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:27pm:

TGD:

Meantime the arguments over "woke" among the blind (most unawake) people here continue, when the nation faces exploding youth crime rates and a persistent black gap

How typically presumptuous of you.

The 'personal responsibility' mantra gives you away.

Quote:

And yet you can give no answers to remedy same without delving into your pipe dream ideologies.

Well....how about paying much higher taxes, to get rid of generational poverty and associated youth crime?

But I must warn you, the scale of the necessary government intervention will be costly for your bank balance, if you keep insisting the currency-issuing government can only fund itself with your money (via taxes) ....

The taxation rate in Australia is one of the highest in the world.

When the top rate amounts to nearly half every dollar you earn.... how much do you think is enough?

Income tax is only one tax. Wealth taxes, inheritance taxes, land taxes all need to be considered. See the Henry Tax review which is ignored by cowardly governments.

Quote:

Seems all you want to do is to drag every one down to the same level ..... poverty.

No. I want to end the insanity of Musk soon being the world's first $trillionaire (equivalent to the entire wealth of Oz) and the hideous idea that billionaires "earned" their wealth by "hard work" , when the system enabled such grotesque accumulation of wealth to individuals.
Indeed some aware ("woke") billionaires are urging governments to impose higher taxes on rich people, before capitalism collapses.

Quote:

Now what does that sound like??? Roll Eyes

"Dragging everyone down to the same level" ...that's the Conservative lie: ending hideous wealth accumlaition by some, and curbing soaring inequality is NOT "bringing everyone down to the same level".

Only your blind Conservative ideology can lead you to that error.

Meantime, I'm educating you:

"Money doesn't grow on rich people". Stephanie Kelton.

..provided government can have access to some of the nation's resources, before the rich comandeer them - like Gina has comandeered $22 billion of Oz iron wealth (Oz resources) for herself, with the connivance of government.

Deplorable.

Yes we are overtaxed .... and your answer is to tax us more. FFS you're as bad as any politician.

You think you are Roll Eyes

BHP, Fortesque and the Chinese own more Iron ore than Gina.

(sigh)the travails of educating Conservatives....

1. My answer is to tax billionaires more , not "we" - spot the difference?

Even aware millionaires/billionaires are urging higher tax rates on the wealthy: google 'Patriotic Millionaires'.

2. BHP is the world's largest mining COMPANY, whose CEO earns a fraction of what Gina 'earns'. And China has to BUY the stuff.

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #413 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 3:37pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 1:02pm:

Yes, that's ONE such activity. The yards could be tidied up and the parts recycled, indeed.

Now all they have to do is have someone buy it at a cost cheaper than the cost of transport from the remote communities. And of course sell it at a profit. Wink

Otherwise it is just another welfare scheme.

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Reply #414 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 6:16pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 1:55pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 1:36pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 1:12pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:17am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 3:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:27pm:

TGD:

Meantime the arguments over "woke" among the blind (most unawake) people here continue, when the nation faces exploding youth crime rates and a persistent black gap

How typically presumptuous of you.

The 'personal responsibility' mantra gives you away.

Quote:

And yet you can give no answers to remedy same without delving into your pipe dream ideologies.

Well....how about paying much higher taxes, to get rid of generational poverty and associated youth crime?

But I must warn you, the scale of the necessary government intervention will be costly for your bank balance, if you keep insisting the currency-issuing government can only fund itself with your money (via taxes) ....

The taxation rate in Australia is one of the highest in the world.

When the top rate amounts to nearly half every dollar you earn.... how much do you think is enough?

Income tax is only one tax. Wealth taxes, inheritance taxes, land taxes all need to be considered. See the Henry Tax review which is ignored by cowardly governments.

Quote:

Seems all you want to do is to drag every one down to the same level ..... poverty.

No. I want to end the insanity of Musk soon being the world's first $trillionaire (equivalent to the entire wealth of Oz) and the hideous idea that billionaires "earned" their wealth by "hard work" , when the system enabled such grotesque accumulation of wealth to individuals.
Indeed some aware ("woke") billionaires are urging governments to impose higher taxes on rich people, before capitalism collapses.

Quote:

Now what does that sound like??? Roll Eyes

"Dragging everyone down to the same level" ...that's the Conservative lie: ending hideous wealth accumlaition by some, and curbing soaring inequality is NOT "bringing everyone down to the same level".

Only your blind Conservative ideology can lead you to that error.

Meantime, I'm educating you:

"Money doesn't grow on rich people". Stephanie Kelton.

..provided government can have access to some of the nation's resources, before the rich comandeer them - like Gina has comandeered $22 billion of Oz iron wealth (Oz resources) for herself, with the connivance of government.

Deplorable.

Yes we are overtaxed .... and your answer is to tax us more. FFS you're as bad as any politician.

You think you are Roll Eyes

BHP, Fortesque and the Chinese own more Iron ore than Gina.

(sigh)the travails of educating Conservatives....

1. My answer is to tax billionaires more , not "we" - spot the difference?

Even aware millionaires/billionaires are urging higher tax rates on the wealthy: google 'Patriotic Millionaires'.

2. BHP is the world's largest mining COMPANY, whose CEO earns a fraction of what Gina 'earns'. And China has to BUY the stuff.

BS not when they own it.

Roy Hill Mining in WA is part owned by the Chinese - if anything Gine has been a middleman for Chinese interests ....... including The Kidman Cattle Co. portfolio.

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Reply #415 - Nov 28^th, 2024 at 6:18pm

lee wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 3:37pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 1:02pm:

Yes, that's ONE such activity. The yards could be tidied up and the parts recycled, indeed.

Now all they have to do is have someone buy it at a cost cheaper than the cost of transport from the remote communities. And of course sell it at a profit. Wink

Otherwise it is just another welfare scheme.

Dividie just doesn't get it - that his ideas are all piss & wind.

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Reply #416 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 1:41pm

lee wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 3:37pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 1:02pm:

Yes, that's ONE such activity. The yards could be tidied up and the parts recycled, indeed.

Now all they have to do is have someone buy it at a cost cheaper than the cost of transport from the remote communities. And of course sell it at a profit. Wink

Otherwise it is just another welfare scheme.

I thought you had in mind the junk-yard eyesores around the Alice, for example.

In any case the recycling industry is an important new industry which must achieve 100% ASAP, regardless of (monetary) "cost".

...not a "welfare" scheme but a vital environmental sustainability scheme. Do try to keep up.

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Reply #417 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 1:46pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 6:16pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 1:55pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 1:36pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 1:12pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:17am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 3:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:27pm:

TGD:

Meantime the arguments over "woke" among the blind (most unawake) people here continue, when the nation faces exploding youth crime rates and a persistent black gap

How typically presumptuous of you.

The 'personal responsibility' mantra gives you away.

Quote:

And yet you can give no answers to remedy same without delving into your pipe dream ideologies.

Well....how about paying much higher taxes, to get rid of generational poverty and associated youth crime?

But I must warn you, the scale of the necessary government intervention will be costly for your bank balance, if you keep insisting the currency-issuing government can only fund itself with your money (via taxes) ....

The taxation rate in Australia is one of the highest in the world.

When the top rate amounts to nearly half every dollar you earn.... how much do you think is enough?

Income tax is only one tax. Wealth taxes, inheritance taxes, land taxes all need to be considered. See the Henry Tax review which is ignored by cowardly governments.

Quote:

Seems all you want to do is to drag every one down to the same level ..... poverty.

No. I want to end the insanity of Musk soon being the world's first $trillionaire (equivalent to the entire wealth of Oz) and the hideous idea that billionaires "earned" their wealth by "hard work" , when the system enabled such grotesque accumulation of wealth to individuals.
Indeed some aware ("woke") billionaires are urging governments to impose higher taxes on rich people, before capitalism collapses.

Quote:

Now what does that sound like??? Roll Eyes

"Dragging everyone down to the same level" ...that's the Conservative lie: ending hideous wealth accumlaition by some, and curbing soaring inequality is NOT "bringing everyone down to the same level".

Only your blind Conservative ideology can lead you to that error.

Meantime, I'm educating you:

"Money doesn't grow on rich people". Stephanie Kelton.

..provided government can have access to some of the nation's resources, before the rich comandeer them - like Gina has comandeered $22 billion of Oz iron wealth (Oz resources) for herself, with the connivance of government.

Deplorable.

Yes we are overtaxed .... and your answer is to tax us more. FFS you're as bad as any politician.

You think you are Roll Eyes

BHP, Fortesque and the Chinese own more Iron ore than Gina.

(sigh)the travails of educating Conservatives....

1. My answer is to tax billionaires more , not "we" - spot the difference?

Even aware millionaires/billionaires are urging higher tax rates on the wealthy: google 'Patriotic Millionaires'.

2. BHP is the world's largest mining COMPANY, whose CEO earns a fraction of what Gina 'earns'. And China has to BUY the stuff.

BS not when they own it.

Roy Hill Mining in WA is part owned by the Chinese - if anything Gine has been a middleman for Chinese interests ....... including The Kidman Cattle Co. portfolio.

Even if this is correct, Gina's holdings are a fraction of the big three who are NOT owned by China.

Now, back to taxation: you can't address it after being shown how and why to address it...

Deplorable.

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #418 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 2:21pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 1^st, 2024 at 1:46pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 6:16pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 1:55pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 28^th, 2024 at 1:36pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 1:12pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 27^th, 2024 at 8:17am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 3:03pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 26^th, 2024 at 1:27pm:

TGD:

Meantime the arguments over "woke" among the blind (most unawake) people here continue, when the nation faces exploding youth crime rates and a persistent black gap

How typically presumptuous of you.

The 'personal responsibility' mantra gives you away.

Quote:

And yet you can give no answers to remedy same without delving into your pipe dream ideologies.

Well....how about paying much higher taxes, to get rid of generational poverty and associated youth crime?

But I must warn you, the scale of the necessary government intervention will be costly for your bank balance, if you keep insisting the currency-issuing government can only fund itself with your money (via taxes) ....

The taxation rate in Australia is one of the highest in the world.

When the top rate amounts to nearly half every dollar you earn.... how much do you think is enough?

Income tax is only one tax. Wealth taxes, inheritance taxes, land taxes all need to be considered. See the Henry Tax review which is ignored by cowardly governments.

Quote:

Seems all you want to do is to drag every one down to the same level ..... poverty.

No. I want to end the insanity of Musk soon being the world's first $trillionaire (equivalent to the entire wealth of Oz) and the hideous idea that billionaires "earned" their wealth by "hard work" , when the system enabled such grotesque accumulation of wealth to individuals.
Indeed some aware ("woke") billionaires are urging governments to impose higher taxes on rich people, before capitalism collapses.

Quote:

Now what does that sound like??? Roll Eyes

"Dragging everyone down to the same level" ...that's the Conservative lie: ending hideous wealth accumlaition by some, and curbing soaring inequality is NOT "bringing everyone down to the same level".

Only your blind Conservative ideology can lead you to that error.

Meantime, I'm educating you:

"Money doesn't grow on rich people". Stephanie Kelton.

..provided government can have access to some of the nation's resources, before the rich comandeer them - like Gina has comandeered $22 billion of Oz iron wealth (Oz resources) for herself, with the connivance of government.

Deplorable.

Yes we are overtaxed .... and your answer is to tax us more. FFS you're as bad as any politician.

You think you are Roll Eyes

BHP, Fortesque and the Chinese own more Iron ore than Gina.

(sigh)the travails of educating Conservatives....

1. My answer is to tax billionaires more , not "we" - spot the difference?

Even aware millionaires/billionaires are urging higher tax rates on the wealthy: google 'Patriotic Millionaires'.

2. BHP is the world's largest mining COMPANY, whose CEO earns a fraction of what Gina 'earns'. And China has to BUY the stuff.

BS not when they own it.

Roy Hill Mining in WA is part owned by the Chinese - if anything Gine has been a middleman for Chinese interests ....... including The Kidman Cattle Co. portfolio.

Even if this is correct, Gina's holdings are a fraction of the big three who are NOT owned by China.

Now, back to taxation: you can't address it after being shown how and why to address it...

Deplorable.

Lock 'em all up - let the dog sort them out.... and that dog isn't 'lunging' - he's more like grinning at the terr ....

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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #419 - Dec 1^st, 2024 at 2:30pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 1^st, 2024 at 1:41pm:

I thought you had in mind the junk-yard eyesores around the Alice, for example.

There is no recycling in Alice. Where should they go Darwin or Adelaide? Roll Eyes

Or setup a new industry where the costs are not problematic in Alice?

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 1^st, 2024 at 1:41pm:

In any case the recycling industry is an important new industry which must achieve 100% ASAP, regardless of (monetary) "cost".

And new industries must make a profit. Roll Eyes

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 1^st, 2024 at 1:41pm:

...not a "welfare" scheme but a vital environmental sustainability scheme.

And the profotability? Or doesn't that matter? Roll Eyes

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 1^st, 2024 at 1:41pm:

Do try to keep up.

I am so far ahead of you, you should stop now. Wink

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