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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #465 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 10:53am
 
lee wrote on Dec 8th, 2024 at 4:36pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 8th, 2024 at 4:08pm:
The "non sequitur" is actually the illogicallity in graps nonsense narrative, which  you are attempting to support by blaming his nonsense  on me, in a laughable Laurel and Hardy passing  the baton routine.

Now...back to the topic, dummy; you will see it at the top of the page.... 



And yet YOU are trhe one who constantly brings up "climate hoax". Grin Grin Grin Grin


ah-ha , lee with his usual fraudulent debating tricks, hoping no one will notice; the post was to graps who is still playing a silly 'pass the baton' routine with lee. I already informed lee I wont be replying to his climate hoax theory in this thread again.... but lee will keep referring to it whenever I chastize graps for following lee's theory,  mixing it up with graps resulting illogical narratives about age of criminal responsibility... 

Now...back to the topic, dummy; you will see it at the top of the page....
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Reply #466 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 11:07am
 
Yesterday Senator Price was agreeing with the very receptive Sky News team that the 'welcome to country' charade has gone on long enough.

She noted symbolic gestures like that, as well as 'treaties with first nations' people' (eg NZ, Canada)  don't improve  living standards for blacks (or close the gap).

She said (correctly) "black people have to get jobs" - BUT she didn't say how they are to do that,   when worse than useless Bullock  is committed to the awful NAIRU dogma of mainstream neoclassical economists which posits a certain level of unemployment to control inflation.

Deplorable.

Price of course is a freemarket ideologue who can't see the damage caused to those who are least able to compete in the (free-market) job market, which for historical and cultural reasons most egregiously affects the black population. 

And to repeat , for the dummies  like graps and lee who can't see the connection between systemic poverty from life on the unemployment scrap heap, and crime, here it is again (from #461):

Juvenile crime

Poverty, single-parent families, and crowded dwellings can increase the rate of child neglect, which is a major factor in juvenile crime.




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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #467 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 2:52pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 10:53am:
ah-ha , lee with his usual fraudulent debating tricks, hoping no one will notice; the post was to graps who is still playing a silly 'pass the baton' routine with lee. I already informed lee I wont be replying to his climate hoax theory in this thread again..


Two things pet.

1. You are the one has "lee's climate hoax" theory. Something that you haven't qualified or quantified. Why is that? There is nowhere I have said climate is a hoax. Wink

2. Even if you refer to graps, when you include me I must continue to ask you to tell the truth. Where have I said climate is a hoax? Grin Grin

It is you trying to obfuscate about the climate. Something you seemingly admit, even though you often say after, AGW-CO2 "IF TRUE". If you don't believe it true say so. In other word Piss or Get Off the Pot as my late father-in-law would say. Wink



thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 10:53am:
but lee will keep referring to it whenever I chastize graps for following lee's theory,  mixing it up with graps resulting illogical narratives about age of criminal responsibility..


See there again you call it my theory. But it is your theory of what I have said.
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #468 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 2:55pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 11:07am:
Juvenile crime

Poverty, single-parent families, and crowded dwellings can increase the rate of child neglect, which is a major factor in juvenile crime.


Only "can" and not "will"? Your language skills are reducing rapidly. Wink
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Reply #469 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 5:54pm
 
All of the problems with aboriginals could be simply solved.
Take the dole off them and make them get a job.
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Reply #470 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 9:23pm
 
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #471 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 9:49pm
 
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Reply #472 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 10:36pm
 
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #473 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 12:44am
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 5:54pm:
All of the problems with aboriginals could be simply solved.
Take the dole off them and make them get a job.


It's coming. It is coming. When the next government takes power, indigenous Australians will lose their special treatment and have to work in order to maintain their privileged lifestyle.
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Re: Lowering the age of crim responsibility
Reply #474 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 2:48am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 10th, 2024 at 12:44am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 5:54pm:
All of the problems with aboriginals could be simply solved.
Take the dole off them and make them get a job.


It's coming. It is coming. When the next government takes power, indigenous Australians will lose their special treatment and have to work in order to maintain their privileged lifestyle.


Arrgh - be jobs available on great interconnecting rail and highway plan - GAIA III - even 'way out there' someone can find work... train is better - the driver can drop off for a snooze and not miss a mile...
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Reply #475 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 2:52am
 
Deep is the paranoia in this one  - I scarcely notice 'lee' here.... let alone pass any baton.... I do that with no user but stand alone... a proud Australian man who has done it all .... and now justice is coming...

Why is anyone wasting time and energy here posting yawns or arguing with yawners?  It's boring...

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Reply #476 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 3:01am
 
There are plenty of Aborigines in Queensland and Western Australia too. Why is it only in the NT that these attempts to substitute rule for law for parental responsibility, are always making the news?

Seems Howard's "little children are sacred" intervention didn't seem to work.

Perhaps parents react to government over-reach, by being even worse parents ...
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Reply #477 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 3:12am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 10th, 2024 at 12:44am:
Valkie wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 5:54pm:
All of the problems with aboriginals could be simply solved.
Take the dole off them and make them get a job.


It's coming. It is coming. When the next government takes power, indigenous Australians will lose their special treatment and have to work in order to maintain their privileged lifestyle.


Perhaps the conflict between traditional lifestyle and western lifestyle, produces dysfunctional families. Parents want their children to have opportunities they did not have (and this applies to every race and ethnicity.) They just don't know how.

Sending their children to school every day, would certainly help. Government spends good money to keep schools open, when attendance would see them closed anywhere else.

By the way, government over funds remote schools for while kids too. Aboriginal kids have other challenges besides just being remote: there's that conflict between cultures, which manifests in low attendance. They need more and smaller schools, with smaller class sizes but still plenty of teachers. It would help if more of the teachers were aboriginal themselves, but that's never going to happen if you can't raise graduation rates.

When you talk about "privileged lifestyles" I think you intend to close rural schools (particularly majority aboriginal, but perhaps you're going to be fair and take away schools for white kids too?)

And as to jobs, yeah how are you going to provide jobs for rural aboriginal kids, when you have further reduced their academic qualifications? Do you have in mind an Asian agrarian economy, with kids planting rice by hand?
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Reply #478 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 8:11am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:37am:
Jasin wrote on Dec 5th, 2024 at 6:55pm:
Kids having babies at 16.
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What of it?


Well they shouldn't be you idiot. Roll Eyes
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Reply #479 - Dec 10th, 2024 at 8:22am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 9:52am:
Gnads wrote on Dec 3rd, 2024 at 6:47pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 4:28pm:
lee wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 4:09pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 2nd, 2024 at 3:33pm:
Smarter people than you will answer those  questions.

But not you? Wink
 

My excuse to  get out of educating  dummies like you; and yes,  I will defer to the experts who (unlike you)

1. Know we have to transition to a sustainable, green economy.

2. Know what a sustainable green economy is.

3. And know how to engineer it. 




You're so far up yourself it must hurt?

1. Know - no we don't.

2. you obviously don't.

3. you obviously don't ...... and neither do all the ideologues - educated or not - like you.


It is unlike me to defend thegreatdivide. But, on this occasion, he is right. We do have the capabilities to transition to a more environmentally sustainable economy. The thing is, the transition is not going to happen in a short space of time (within 5 years). And international macroeconomics will have to undergo a similar transition for Australia to be under any pressure to need to change to this environmentally sustainable economy.

The thing about Australia's economy is our ever reliant need to dig up natural resources and send it to China. And if we stop doing that, then the country will stop having money.

What Australia focuses upon is the need to keep the biodiversity either sustained or maintained. If we lose our ability to keep pests and diseases out of the country, I will lose the ability to keep my job washing dishes. I realise that the quarantining procedures in Australia is such that we could handle an outbreak. And, therefore, Australia should be able to do our job of keeping an environmentally sustainable economy functioning, without going over the top and losing our export industries to some ecoNazis.



Well don't try & defend the indefensible

and no he is not right.

When Australia is responsible for a little over 1% of the total global emissions it's ridiculous that we are on a headlong path backwards towards unreliable power supply, brown & blackouts.

It not progress it's regression - it's not green, it's not clean and it certainly is a misnomer to call it renewable.

It will open up more environmentally destructive mining in the chase for the rare earths & minerals required to make solar panels - plus the fossil fuels still required in the manufacture of wind turbines.

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