thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 29^th, 2024 at 12:03pm:


Maybe you are not indigenous. Maybe you have never had to go hungry for a meal. Just recently, I applied for a Vinnies grocery voucher -- and received it. Being caucasian, it is difficult for me to get much of anything. Without that grocery voucher, I will have trouble with paying bills for the next month. The voucher will give me breathing room for a little while.

I have lived in a street where about one in 3 houses are commission homes. As far as money is concerned, the parents live off the generosity of their children being the reason why they can afford to eat and survive. For many of them, they turned to selling drugs to pay for their excesses. Most of the housing commission homes are lived in by indigenous people. The amount of drug parties are rare. However, when they happen, the streets are so dangerous that even my parents' dogs are kept indoors.

A lot of criminal activity is conducted by people out to get a reputation as drug runners, dealers, or holders. One house in my street is nototious for having a family hosting drugs in their home. Among those that drive pass the house to get their share are even those that work in the emergency services. I know of a couple that work such jobs, and they have their hands in for their cut. Perhaps they are getting paid off. But, when I know that the lady of the couple has a daughter getting caught up in the business, I worry about her safety.

A Centrelink worker admitted to me that he wished that other recipients of welfare were as obligated as I was to get my welfare. He told me that some recipients get 2 or 3 times as much welfare as I do, and the recipients were not expected to do anything near the mutual obligations that I was expected to conduct. So far, my near povery status has not attracted me a desire to start committing crimes.

The real reason why indigenous people commit more crimes than non-indigenous people is due to the fact that indigenous people have little to lose. Conviction means that they get a suspended sentence. They will do crimes that involve them being convicted for violent offences. But, if they do something mildly serious, they use their racial background as an excuse to get them from any serious gaol time.

tgd,

I live around indigenous people. 10% of my town identify as indigenous Australian. Some of the indigenous people are as caucasian as I. But I have noted that even darker skinned people still accept that there are lighter-skinned indigenous people in my town.

It is quite relevant to the topic about criminal responsibility to name having food vouchers as a means to prevent people from committing crimes. If someone in Australia stole food to prevent starvation, it is not a crime. But if someone was constantly going hungry, they might not see food vouchers as being sufficient to get by with any sort of comfort to their self-esteem.

There are a lot of petty crimes committed around town by indigenous Australians. They are not worth the police time. But, when it comes down to car thefts, assaults or illegal entry, the police have to intervene. And just about all of these crimes are the result of greed. The amount of resources being given to indigenous Australians would mean that there is no reason to be caught short with food, shelter, clothing, electricity, etc.

An indigenous person unemployed gets about as much money for being unemployed as I do if I worked an average 30 hours a week. That is not a great deal of money. But, for someone that sits on their arse all week and getting money, and other benefits for being indigenous, it is pretty good money. What problems arise from this sit down money is boredom. All kinds of social problems arise.

The real way to reduce crime is to ensure that the parents are held accountable for their children. Then hold the children accountable for their actions when they are old enough to face court. You might find a bunch of children feel tough about their circumstances early on. But when they are made to be accountable for their actions, they won't feel so tough after a while.

I saw it a number of times in my youth. Young indigenous people acting like the antisocial nutcases in their teens. But, once they figure out that they are going to be looking after themselves in their early adulthood, they settle down and act like responsible people. But, if they are expecting to be fed and looked after from cradle to grave, they barely alter their behaviour.

thegreatdivide wrote on Dec 30^th, 2024 at 12:21pm:



OMG you really are a self indulgent wanker.

As I have stated numerous times to you & Sad Sack - you & reality are poles apart.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2025 at 8:51pm:


And you ARE ineducable because correlation is not causation.