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LiveNation - music
Oct 15^th, 2024 at 10:39am

Anyone watch 4Corners last night?

The vertical integration take over of the Music industry by shareholder driven company LiveNation Entertainment. A US based company controlled by Liberty Media Corp.

In an industry without any real regulation these bastards are doing what no other companies are allowed to do because of regulations & regulatory bodies that oversee fair competition policy.

They are buying up the artists, music festivals & music venues, ticket sales & promotion companies. Thus becoming vertically integrated and charging whatever they like in the pursuit of profits for shareholders.

It was an interest expose on the control of the music industry and how it makes life much more difficult for the musicians & up coming talent.

It's having a devastating impact on artists and punters who are being ripped off by Dynamic Pricing - a fancy name for profiteering/price gouging in the guise of the old supply & demand mantra.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-14/music-for-sale/104471980

Of course LiveNation has come out blasting the 4Corners program ....

but when all the facts about what parts of the music industry they own and get fees on fees from then they don't have a truthful leg to stand on.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5353	Re: LiveNation - music Reply #1 - Oct 15^th, 2024 at 10:54am Quote: want your love and give me a thrill but your loveing don't pay my bills I want money what I want that's what I want that's what I want that's what I [Applause]
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29080 Gender:	Re: LiveNation - music Reply #2 - Oct 15^th, 2024 at 6:12pm tallowood wrote on Oct 15^th, 2024 at 10:54am: Quote: want your love and give me a thrill but your loveing don't pay my bills I want money what I want that's what I want that's what I want that's what I [Applause] And?
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5353	Re: LiveNation - music Reply #3 - Oct 15^th, 2024 at 7:36pm Just a coincidence.
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29080 Gender:	Re: LiveNation - music Reply #4 - Yesterday at 11:52am tallowood wrote on Oct 15^th, 2024 at 7:36pm: Just a coincidence. Money just a coincidence? I know it's all about money - but do you have an opinion on their operation and whether their vertically integrated model is contrary to competition policy & should it be allowed or should the industry be regulated?
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Re: LiveNation - music
Reply #5 - Yesterday at 11:57am

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 11:52am:

tallowood wrote on Oct 15^th, 2024 at 7:36pm:

Just a coincidence.

Money just a coincidence?

I know it's all about money - but do you have an opinion on their operation and whether their vertically integrated model is contrary to competition policy & should it be allowed or should the industry be regulated?

I think there should be more live performance then studio recording.

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Aurora Complexus Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 246 New South Whales Gender:	Re: LiveNation - music Reply #6 - Yesterday at 7:19pm Best concert I ever went to was Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, in a basement with maybe 30 people watching. Nick dug his heart out and squeezed all the blood out. That's never going to happen in a corporate gig.
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Re: LiveNation - music
Reply #7 - Yesterday at 7:20pm

tallowood wrote Yesterday at 11:57am:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 11:52am:

tallowood wrote on Oct 15^th, 2024 at 7:36pm:

Just a coincidence.

Money just a coincidence?

I know it's all about money - but do you have an opinion on their operation and whether their vertically integrated model is contrary to competition policy & should it be allowed or should the industry be regulated?

I think there should be more live performance then studio recording.

Well that's nice. Where's your money at though?

I've spent more on vinyl, CD's and online, than I ever spent on live performances. Probably five to one (considering the inflation factor on all that vinyl I bought as a young man.)

Touring is only worth the money, because audience buy more copy after attending a concert. There's plenty of potential for organizers to screw the acts, down to very little or nothing for performing. Hell even negative return: you'll only know when they stop touring at all.

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Re: LiveNation - music
Reply #8 - Yesterday at 7:46pm

Aurora Complexus wrote Yesterday at 7:20pm:

tallowood wrote Yesterday at 11:57am:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 11:52am:

tallowood wrote on Oct 15^th, 2024 at 7:36pm:

Just a coincidence.

Money just a coincidence?

I know it's all about money - but do you have an opinion on their operation and whether their vertically integrated model is contrary to competition policy & should it be allowed or should the industry be regulated?

I think there should be more live performance then studio recording.

Well that's nice. Where's your money at though?

I've spent more on vinyl, CD's and online, than I ever spent on live performances. Probably five to one (considering the inflation factor on all that vinyl I bought as a young man.)

Touring is only worth the money, because audience buy more copy after attending a concert. There's plenty of potential for organizers to screw the acts, down to very little or nothing for performing. Hell even negative return: you'll only know when they stop touring at all.

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https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=busking

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Aurora Complexus

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Re: LiveNation - music
Reply #9 - Yesterday at 7:53pm

tallowood wrote Yesterday at 7:46pm:

Aurora Complexus wrote Yesterday at 7:20pm:

tallowood wrote Yesterday at 11:57am:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 11:52am:

tallowood wrote on Oct 15^th, 2024 at 7:36pm:

Just a coincidence.

Money just a coincidence?

I know it's all about money - but do you have an opinion on their operation and whether their vertically integrated model is contrary to competition policy & should it be allowed or should the industry be regulated?

I think there should be more live performance then studio recording.

Well that's nice. Where's your money at though?

I've spent more on vinyl, CD's and online, than I ever spent on live performances. Probably five to one (considering the inflation factor on all that vinyl I bought as a young man.)

Touring is only worth the money, because audience buy more copy after attending a concert. There's plenty of potential for organizers to screw the acts, down to very little or nothing for performing. Hell even negative return: you'll only know when they stop touring at all.

more
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=busking

Are you complaining that LiveNation is buying up busking spots? Or just trying for a cheap shot about live music?

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Re: LiveNation - music
Reply #10 - Yesterday at 7:59pm

Aurora Complexus wrote Yesterday at 7:53pm:

tallowood wrote Yesterday at 7:46pm:

Aurora Complexus wrote Yesterday at 7:20pm:

tallowood wrote Yesterday at 11:57am:

Gnads wrote Yesterday at 11:52am:

tallowood wrote on Oct 15^th, 2024 at 7:36pm:

Just a coincidence.

Money just a coincidence?

I know it's all about money - but do you have an opinion on their operation and whether their vertically integrated model is contrary to competition policy & should it be allowed or should the industry be regulated?

I think there should be more live performance then studio recording.

Well that's nice. Where's your money at though?

I've spent more on vinyl, CD's and online, than I ever spent on live performances. Probably five to one (considering the inflation factor on all that vinyl I bought as a young man.)

Touring is only worth the money, because audience buy more copy after attending a concert. There's plenty of potential for organizers to screw the acts, down to very little or nothing for performing. Hell even negative return: you'll only know when they stop touring at all.

more
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=busking

Are you complaining that LiveNation is buying up busking spots? Or just trying for a cheap shot about live music?

Try to listen music instead of asking silly questions Roll Eyes

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