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Re: Should King Charles say, "Sorry"?
Reply #60 - Oct 24th, 2024 at 5:56pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 24th, 2024 at 5:48pm:


Get your hand out from under your cassock you dirty old bishop bashing deviate.
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Reply #61 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 7:08am
 
BTW - where is Skanka yesterday and today?  RDO from the little party office or something?  Lockdown in the asylum/prison?  Nervous breakdown?  Just can't take it any more.... first Leftie, then mothra the invisible sock, now Skanka.... all the heroic ravers who offer nothing of substance just vanish as broken persons after trying their lot with reality as expressed here.

If their abuse and insult and attempted put-downs and all the other childish nonsense doesn't walk - they vanish in a huff...

What will I do for a laugh if they all vanish like that?  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

Imagine Skanka trying on the old line about 'that's why people treat you as they do' - when nobody bothered much with responding to hir raves and rants filled with vitriol and hatred instead of facts... and Skanka reckons they don;t all come from the same source - nah - just share the lingo, eh?

Oh, well - if Labor wants to waste good money on a pissy little office trying to desperately fend off their voice loss and their illegal putsch for Aboriginal Supremacy by carrying on like children, I suppose it's their money.

Amazing the proliferation of 'sacred sites' these days - they're everywhere.... literally everywhere... look at that access path 'too close to a sacred men's painting spot' ... not through or over it - just 'too close'.   Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy    ..... Stop the Gold Mine!  Some sheila sets up a few paintings then comes out and says these represent 'her people's spiritual connection with the land and show why the gold mine should not go ahead' - and Tanya PlebeianShock - too long in the fattest job in the land - approves it as real without a second thought!!  Hindmarsh Island secret women's business all over again....

Damned fine argument for carefully vetting the type of people we allow into politics here and for restricting their tenure instead of making it a 'lifetime fattest in the land "career"  .......  FFS.... why do people continue to elect those types and allow them free range?

Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy
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Reply #62 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 7:42am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 6:52pm:
Any apology (such as the one Elizabeth II made to the Maori people of NZ) is made as the sovereign, not as Elizabeth Windsor.

NZ is different from Oz and has no specific constitution. The monarch has a bit more authority.
In 2006 the Queen enacted 'Administrator of the Government.
Whenever the Office of Governor-General is vacant, or the holder of the Office is for any reason unable to perform all or any of the functions of the Office, We [ the monarch] do hereby authorise, empower, and command the Chief Justice of New Zealand to perform the functions of the Office of Governor-General. If, however, there is for the time being no Chief Justice able to act as Governor-General, then the next most senior Judge of the New Zealand judiciary who is able so to act is so authorised, empowered, and commanded. The Chief Justice or the next most senior Judge, while performing all or any of the functions of the Office of Governor-General, is to be known as the Administrator of the Government; and in these Our Letters Patent every reference to Our Governor-General includes, unless inconsistent with the context, a reference to Our Administrator of the Government.”

'And We do hereby reserve to Ourselves and Our heirs and successors, full power and authority from time to time to revoke, alter, or amend these Our Letters Patent as to Us or them shall seem meet.'
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That needs a referendum under the Oz constitution so the monarch in NZ = the population of Oz.  Thorpe was nuts to demand Charles give her a Treaty, he can't.

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Reply #63 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 9:50am
 
chimera wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 7:42am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 18th, 2024 at 6:52pm:
Any apology (such as the one Elizabeth II made to the Maori people of NZ) is made as the sovereign, not as Elizabeth Windsor.

NZ is different from Oz and has no specific constitution. The monarch has a bit more authority.

Thorpe was nuts to demand Charles give her a Treaty, he can't.


OK... And? The point being made in my post was that Elizabeth II speaks as the sovereign - an enduring role - not as Elizabeth Windsor.

Thorpe, I'm sure, did not expect Charles III to do anything unilaterally. She was scorning the sovereign (or the Crown) for crimes committed in its name.
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Reply #64 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 9:58am
 
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/legal-expert-chris-merritt-ca...
The video shows her stalking Charles personally and not in the group of pollies.  He had a treaty in his pocket and could have just handed it over.
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Reply #65 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 10:20am
 
chimera wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 9:58am:
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The video shows her stalking Charles personally and not in the group of pollies.  He had a treaty in his pocket and could have just handed it over.

Stalking?? Please...

She was standing in front of the sovereign, many metres in front of him and did not pose any physical risk to him.

Her display demonstrated to all that she was not overawed by the sovereign's 'majesty' and was, in fact, contemptuous of it.

Whether that has consequences for her position as a senator is up to Parliament to decide.

However, what Parliament must take into account is, if it decides to eject her from the senate, it may spark protests that will be published around the world, thus augmenting her cause - Australians, being instinctive grovellers, will be personally embarrassed by any world headlines (particularly in the US) in defence of Thorpe.

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Reply #66 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 10:55am
 
She asked him for the treaty which shows she regards him as the government pinnacle (or that was her theatrical image). It's an American/ foreign concept that he rules Aboriginals. He don't.
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Reply #67 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 12:23pm
 
chimera wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 10:55am:
She asked him for the treaty which shows she regards him as the government pinnacle (or that was her theatrical image). It's an American/ foreign concept that he rules Aboriginals. He don't.

I'd bet she gets that. Her point was likely to make the statement while the world's media was momentarily focussed on Charles III.
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Reply #68 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 1:37pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 7:08am:
BTW - where is Skanka yesterday and today?  RDO from the little party office or something?  Lockdown in the asylum/prison?  Nervous breakdown?  Just can't take it any more.... first Leftie, then mothra the invisible sock, now Skanka.... all the heroic ravers who offer nothing of substance just vanish as broken persons after trying their lot with reality as expressed here.


In case it wasn’t clear, I have a job and a life. I’m not some bitter, retired individual with nothing better to do than fixate on belittling Indigenous people at every opportunity just to boost my own sense of worth.  I'm not here 24x7.

I initially joined this forum under the assumption that it was a place for legitimate political discussion, unlike the overly sanitised environment of Whirlpool.

I hadn’t anticipated it being the polar opposite of that place. Less censorship and moderation is good, but outright platforming racist hate speech was entirely unexpected.  Some may think that FD has a lot to answer for.

Yet, I chose to stay because the only way to genuinely challenge and refine my views is to engage with perspectives I fundamentally disagree with, preventing myself from becoming trapped in an echo chamber.

While we’ve certainly clashed on numerous occasions it's not ever been anything personal.  One thing I cannot tolerate is when people abandon reality and substitute it with their own delusions, especially when it serves as a shield for blatant racism and bigotry.

You, ever the perpetual victim and fragile snowflake, have taken all of this far too personally. Rather than engage with reality, you’ve entrenched yourself deeper in an alternate world that makes you feel safe, validated, and superior.

It’s clear you’re simply not equipped for genuine discussion, especially when it reveals just how fragile your views are under the scrutiny of truth.

Just start the blog already.

One would think, after all these years, you might have evolved, but instead, you’ve regressed, becoming increasingly extreme as time goes on.

I truly pity those in your life who have to endure this deteriorating version of you. I can only hope it’s confined to us here, because if not, it’s only a matter of time before you drive everyone else away.

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If their abuse and insult and attempted put-downs and all the other childish nonsense doesn't walk - they vanish in a huff...

What will I do for a laugh if they all vanish like that?  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

Imagine Skanka trying on the old line about 'that's why people treat you as they do' - when nobody bothered much with responding to hir raves and rants filled with vitriol and hatred instead of facts... and Skanka reckons they don;t all come from the same source - nah - just share the lingo, eh?


I attempted to engage with you respectfully, played along with your approach, and yet you still chose to act like a petulant, disrespectful child.

So now, I see no reason not to return your insolence in kind. You've earned it, slick.

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Oh, well - if Labor wants to waste good money on a pissy little office trying to desperately fend off their voice loss and their illegal putsch for Aboriginal Supremacy by carrying on like children, I suppose it's their money.


You’ve become so unmoored from reality that your only recourse is to resort to conspiracy theories whenever someone dares to disagree with you or when the facts fail to align with your warped beliefs.

Frankly, it’s pathetic.

Do yourself a favour and reach out to your family, assuming they haven’t disowned you yet. You’re clearly starved of human connection, which is driving you further into extremism.

But please, spare the rest of the world. Stay the gutless keyboard warrior you are. Keep your hatred confined to this forum, where at least it can be documented and scrutinised. You do realise this space is entirely public, right? No account is required to witness the vile trail of posts you've left behind for all to see.
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Re: Should King Charles say, "Sorry"?
Reply #69 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 2:07pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 1:37pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 7:08am:
BTW - where is Skanka yesterday and today?  RDO from the little party office or something?  Lockdown in the asylum/prison?  Nervous breakdown?  Just can't take it any more.... first Leftie, then mothra the invisible sock, now Skanka.... all the heroic ravers who offer nothing of substance just vanish as broken persons after trying their lot with reality as expressed here.


In case it wasn’t clear, I have a job and a life. I’m not some bitter, retired individual with nothing better to do than fixate on belittling Indigenous people at every opportunity just to boost my own sense of worth.  I'm not here 24x7.

I initially joined this forum under the assumption that it was a place for legitimate political discussion, unlike the overly sanitised environment of Whirlpool.


I hadn’t anticipated it being the polar opposite of that place. Less censorship and moderation is good, but outright platforming racist hate speech was entirely unexpected.  Some may think that FD has a lot to answer for.

Yet, I chose to stay because the only way to genuinely challenge and refine my views is to engage with perspectives I fundamentally disagree with, preventing myself from becoming trapped in an echo chamber.

While we’ve certainly clashed on numerous occasions it's not ever been anything personal.  One thing I cannot tolerate is when people abandon reality and substitute it with their own delusions, especially when it serves as a shield for blatant racism and bigotry.

You, ever the perpetual victim and fragile snowflake, have taken all of this far too personally. Rather than engage with reality, you’ve entrenched yourself deeper in an alternate world that makes you feel safe, validated, and superior.


It’s clear you’re simply not equipped for genuine discussion, especially when it reveals just how fragile your views are under the scrutiny of truth.

Just start the blog already.

One would think, after all these years, you might have evolved, but instead, you’ve regressed, becoming increasingly extreme as time goes on.

I truly pity those in your life who have to endure this deteriorating version of you. I can only hope it’s confined to us here, because if not, it’s only a matter of time before you drive everyone else away.

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If their abuse and insult and attempted put-downs and all the other childish nonsense doesn't walk - they vanish in a huff...

What will I do for a laugh if they all vanish like that?  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

Imagine Skanka trying on the old line about 'that's why people treat you as they do' - when nobody bothered much with responding to hir raves and rants filled with vitriol and hatred instead of facts... and Skanka reckons they don;t all come from the same source - nah - just share the lingo, eh?


I attempted to engage with you respectfully, played along with your approach, and yet you still chose to act like a petulant, disrespectful child.


So now, I see no reason not to return your insolence in kind. You've earned it, slick.

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Oh, well - if Labor wants to waste good money on a pissy little office trying to desperately fend off their voice loss and their illegal putsch for Aboriginal Supremacy by carrying on like children, I suppose it's their money.


You’ve become so unmoored from reality that your only recourse is to resort to conspiracy theories whenever someone dares to disagree with you or when the facts fail to align with your warped beliefs.

Frankly, it’s pathetic.

Do yourself a favour and reach out to your family, assuming they haven’t disowned you yet. You’re clearly starved of human connection, which is driving you further into extremism.


But please, spare the rest of the world. Stay the gutless keyboard warrior you are. Keep your hatred confined to this forum, where at least it can be documented and scrutinised. You do realise this space is entirely public, right? No account is required to witness the vile trail of posts you've left behind for all to see.



It is a place for legitimate political discussion - you destroyed that by assuming that everyone with a different view from your extremely narrow ones was the classical internet cardboard cutout character or a Racist/Bigot - and had no right or intelligence to form opinions and stat them.  See above for clear examples of your failings... that's you 'engaging in civilised discussion'... an absolutely laughable non-event.

You use that nonsense, accompanied by the above kind of vicious diatribe, to cover over the reality that you do not answer questions and do not even attempt to discuss very serious issues for Australia, but prefer to hide b ehind your nasty little name-calling and bigotry against anything Ordinary Australian.

Now then, slack - what about that Apartheid proven time and again, and clearly along Aboriginal supremacist lines?  When was the last time you were offered a freehold vast swathe of land instead of saving for a freehold block if you are lucky enough to be able to do so under this current government of two parties bent on subjugation of the 'lower classes'.
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Reply #70 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 3:06pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 2:07pm:
It is a place for legitimate political discussion - you destroyed that by assuming that everyone with a different view from your extremely narrow ones was the classical internet cardboard cutout character or a Racist/Bigot - and had no right or intelligence to form opinions and stat them. 


That is patently untrue. The only individuals I would categorise as racist or bigoted are those who consistently resort to racial slurs and advocate for genocide or segregation based on race—just as you do.

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See above for clear examples of your failings... that's you 'engaging in civilised discussion'... an absolutely laughable non-event.


You requested that I answer your questions, so I proposed a reset. I committed to treating you with respect and engaging in a good faith discussion.

Yet, you either refused or were incapable of reciprocating that respect. I provided you with multiple opportunities and reminded you of the civility we aimed to achieve, without invoking the phrase "in good faith" as you claimed this to be abusive, but you still lacked the integrity to engage meaningfully.

As a result, you will be treated no better than you have treated me and others who dissent from your views.

If you find this treatment objectionable, it does not make you a victim; it is merely a reflection of your own behaviour. Shocking as it may be, actions have consequences.

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You use that nonsense, accompanied by the above kind of vicious diatribe, to cover over the reality that you do not answer questions and do not even attempt to discuss very serious issues for Australia, but prefer to hide b ehind your nasty little name-calling and bigotry against anything Ordinary Australian.


It's in black and white.  I replied, in good faith, answering your questions, but you just ignored it.  Or, do the multiple people running your account not talk to each other? /s

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Now then, slack - what about that Apartheid proven time and again, and clearly along Aboriginal supremacist lines?  When was the last time you were offered a freehold vast swathe of land instead of saving for a freehold block if you are lucky enough to be able to do so under this current government of two parties bent on subjugation of the 'lower classes'.


"Apartheid proven"?

Simply asserting that something is proven does not make it so—especially when you redefine terms to suit your narrative yet again.

The Uluru Statement is not about Indigenous supremacy; that’s merely a line you believe will resonate with individuals as bigoted as yourself. You are accustomed to viewing yourself as superior, so any effort to level the playing field is perceived as a personal affront to your perceived supremacy. This is a profound failing within you; it is not anyone else’s fault.

Your concerns clearly centre on Indigenous land rights, which is indeed a legitimate issue. However, when you frame it as "The Voice by stealth" and repeatedly lie to mask the other falsehoods you’ve perpetuated, genuine debate becomes impossible.

If your position is so weak that you must resort to lies to bolster it, perhaps it’s time to pause, reassess, and approach the matter anew. Yet, your stubbornness reveals that, like many with limited intellectual capacity, you equate admitting any mistake with losing the argument. That is a fundamental misunderstanding of how discourse operates.

Reevaluate your stance and engage with the facts and reality. You are entitled to critique the existing framework of Indigenous land rights as a legislative issue. However, when you justify your views by espousing violence—wishing for the annihilation of Indigenous peoples during colonisation, fantasising about imprisoning them in zoos, or using racial slurs—your position shifts from a legislative concern to a bigoted and racist diatribe.

It does not help that you label everything as "lawfare" or "The Voice by stealth" to claim that whatever issue you’re discussing is undemocratic simply because the referendum was defeated. Your bigoted views, underpinned by lies and misrepresentations of truth, combined with your incessant use of racial slurs while portraying yourself as a victim, invalidate any claims of unfair treatment you may assert in this forum.

You've cried wolf about "The Voice by Stealth" and "Lawfare" that those claims of yours have no meaning anymore, especially after you admitted to redefining what "The Voice" meant.

So cease your whining, stop being a racist tool, and strive to be better. If you genuinely desire a substantive debate, the door remains open. However, you must first demonstrate your capacity for meaningful engagement. Time and again, you have shown that this is far beyond your reach.
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Reply #71 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 3:53pm
 
So when you started throwing slurs around like racist etc, that wasn't a declaration of war?  Just a sweet way of starting discussion, eh?

Well - you know what - I give back as good as I get - love it or leave it... so if YOU hadn't started it off with YOUR racist slurs - such as 'racist' calling over ISSUES - you wouldn't be in the twist you are now.

If you can't see a joke or a parody for what it is - you have no business online in serious discussion and you should be considering being evaluated for autism or whatever on some spectrum.

Clearly it's a send-up to say 'the Poms should do better next time around' - which will never happen, right?  And you STILL struggle to see that '10% is about the average of those in that group who make a decent upwardly mobile life for themselves' - so saying that 10% of a rioting crowd who may be fired upon if they do not disperse after all avenues are exhausted (I'm exhausted just explaining simple realities to you) might be in the category of worth saving from their current lifestyle IF they choose to co-operate - is nothing but a comment on the possibilities for them given their lack of attention to 'white man's education' - which slovenly approach to the 21st Century YOU and your kind including 'governments' promote and advocate and enhance by offering them freebie after freebie instead of telling them to shape up or ship out.

Get a grip on this, Slacker - EVERY Free Settler who arrived had his/her lands stolen before they ever came here... where's their cut of 'stolen land' and where are their 'ancestral claims' for everything??  Well - I'll TELL you where it is!  Right Here and Now In AUSTRALIA given that they've paid for their land and country and everything in it etc and are paying MORE for it NOW while putting up with their current government madness of gifting towards one small minority or another who are indolent in the main and unwilling to actively participate in their own raising up to full Australian standard.

You cannot be for real.

Drain the Billabongs.... Cut The Aliens Out Of Australian!!

I'm so exhausted trying to bring light into your clouded mind that I'm prepared to hand over the siege to the military authorities and call in 22 SAS..... mothra is incurable... so is smith - you show vestiges of intelligence at times - Iranian embassy style complete with zip ties......  (heh, heh, heh)....

Now try desperately and with zero foundation to say that I've slagged YOU as much as you've slagged me even today.  You are a liar, sir - and the mods know full well when they read who is doing the slagging... it must be natural to you.
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Reply #72 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 5:11pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 3:53pm:
So when you started throwing slurs around like racist etc, that wasn't a declaration of war?  Just a sweet way of starting discussion, eh?


If you don't want to be called racist, stop advocating for things are racist and using racial slurs.

Quack quack.

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Well - you know what - I give back as good as I get - love it or leave it... so if YOU hadn't started it off with YOUR racist slurs - such as 'racist' calling over ISSUES - you wouldn't be in the twist you are now.


You're now redefining what a slur is...  White flag accepted.

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If you can't see a joke or a parody for what it is - you have no business online in serious discussion and you should be considering being evaluated for autism or whatever on some spectrum.


You want to be taken seriously here, claiming to have a genuine concern for the people you "joke" about killing and ethnically cleansing?

Please.

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Clearly it's a send-up to say 'the Poms should do better next time around' - which will never happen, right?  And you STILL struggle to see that '10% is about the average of those in that group who make a decent upwardly mobile life for themselves' - so saying that 10% of a rioting crowd who may be fired upon if they do not disperse after all avenues are exhausted (I'm exhausted just explaining simple realities to you) might be in the category of worth saving from their current lifestyle IF they choose to co-operate - is nothing but a comment on the possibilities for them given their lack of attention to 'white man's education' - which slovenly approach to the 21st Century YOU and your kind including 'governments' promote and advocate and enhance by offering them freebie after freebie instead of telling them to shape up or ship out.

Get a grip on this, Slacker - EVERY Free Settler who arrived had his/her lands stolen before they ever came here... where's their cut of 'stolen land' and where are their 'ancestral claims' for everything??  Well - I'll TELL you where it is!  Right Here and Now In AUSTRALIA given that they've paid for their land and country and everything in it etc and are paying MORE for it NOW while putting up with their current government madness of gifting towards one small minority or another who are indolent in the main and unwilling to actively participate in their own raising up to full Australian standard.

You cannot be for real.

Drain the Billabongs.... Cut The Aliens Out Of Australian!!

I'm so exhausted trying to bring light into your clouded mind that I'm prepared to hand over the siege to the military authorities and call in 22 SAS..... mothra is incurable... so is smith - you show vestiges of intelligence at times - Iranian embassy style complete with zip ties......  (heh, heh, heh)....

Now try desperately and with zero foundation to say that I've slagged YOU as much as you've slagged me even today.  You are a liar, sir - and the mods know full well when they read who is doing the slagging... it must be natural to you.


Again, if you don't want to be thought of as racist, then stop acting racist.

It's such a simple concept.

Joking about killing Indigenous People, joking about the British should have done a better job killing them all during colonisation, joking about shooting them on site, constantly using racial slurs, constantly lying about any piece of news being "The Voice by stealth" or "Lawfare" when they have nothing to do with it and having such a monumental tantrum when being called out about it all, these are not the actions of someone who is acting in good faith and isn't a racist piece of sh
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If you don't like what you see in the mirror, attacking me won't help.

Be better.
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Reply #73 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 6:06pm
 
I don't advocate for anything racist other than to support the demands of racist Abactivists - I merely offer to the rabid Abactivists what they imagine they want - and they - and you - pull back suddenly from 'their own state self-supported', and 'take your 'sovereignty' and withdraw from your Australian citizenship and all it benefits which you now will pay for like any visitor on a visa which you will require to remain here- can't have all the good bits and none of the responsibilities.... the moment Reality comes into the discussion out come the heel dust AND the personal abuse smokescreen.

I oppose every day Apartheid, neo-Segregation, and special unearned privilege for whining and behaving in a menacing manner.

Aborassic Park - would you prefer we call it Shangri-labor or something instead - is a great earner idea for those who demand that they be allowed to 'do things their way' and live the idyllic life 'pre-1788 and the White Man's Invasion with all the evil things he brought' - AND offered them a couple of ways to earn a few shekels - Maverick style hunting trips.... contracts to be guards and beagle pack handlers for Gondwanamo Bay (Gon'Mo) - the repository for EVERY kind of recalcitrant badass and not just Abo badasses who are by far the highest percentage amongst our Indigenous population which is all those born here .... and the fun of hunting down escapees from Gon'Mo before the crocs get them.... stir the old hunting Chinamen for food genes and give 'em a run... you know...

Then there is the offer of a block of building land for each family........ and when the Queenslund (where they do things diff'runtly) 'government' takes up this idea - it suddenly transforms into demanding freehold ownership of every bit of good coastal land in Queensland .... well that dingo ain't gonna hunt!.

Soon as I make those generous offers, you - and they - all run like pigs from a gun... you - and they - don't really WANT their 'sovereignty' and all that guff - for the simple reason that they - and the stupid governments with no balls - KNOW that they can't have it both ways, but while they remain in limbo and are not told where to get off, they will continue to be a problem for the general community in every way they can come up with.

And so your governments betray the people and just hand over what is unearned and unwarranted - and the people said, still say and will say NO!

Get with the program or on your bike with your bag for Gon'Mo.

Your 'governments' simply lack the balls to tell it like it is - I simply tell it like it is - and you hate it!!
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 6:06pm:
I don't advocate for anything racist other than to support the demands of racist Abactivists - I merely offer to the rabid Abactivists what they imagine they want - and they - and you - pull back suddenly from 'their own state self-supported', and 'take your 'sovereignty' and withdraw from your Australian citizenship and all it benefits which you now will pay for like any visitor on a visa which you will require to remain here- can't have all the good bits and none of the responsibilities.... the moment Reality comes into the discussion out come the heel dust AND the personal abuse smokescreen.

I oppose every day Apartheid, neo-Segregation, and special unearned privilege for whining and behaving in a menacing manner.


You have an interesting way of showing it.

If that were genuinely your intent, you’d be actively fighting for Indigenous rights, working to dismantle the barriers that drive de facto segregation, barriers embedded in economic inequality, residential divisions, education gaps, employment discrimination, and social exclusion within areas of higher Indigenous populations.

Instead, you oppose every initiative aimed at addressing these issues, recently dismissing them as "lawfare."

Your actions speak louder than your hallow words.

Distorting Indigenous advocacy to equate it with forced captivity and fantasies of hunting people for sport, your absurd "Aborassic Park" notion, is not supporting their demands.

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Aborassic Park - would you prefer we call it Shangri-labor or something instead - is a great earner idea for those who demand that they be allowed to 'do things their way' and live the idyllic life 'pre-1788 and the White Man's Invasion with all the evil things he brought' - AND offered them a couple of ways to earn a few shekels - Maverick style hunting trips.... contracts to be guards and beagle pack handlers for Gondwanamo Bay (Gon'Mo) - the repository for EVERY kind of recalcitrant badass and not just Abo badasses who are by far the highest percentage amongst our Indigenous population which is all those born here .... and the fun of hunting down escapees from Gon'Mo before the crocs get them.... stir the old hunting Chinamen for food genes and give 'em a run... you know...


I would prefer if you refrained from treating people as though they were animals, creatures to be confined in "hermetically sealed" enclosures or hunted and killed for sport.

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Then there is the offer of a block of building land for each family........ and when the Queenslund (where they do things diff'runtly) 'government' takes up this idea - it suddenly transforms into demanding freehold ownership of every bit of good coastal land in Queensland .... well that dingo ain't gonna hunt!.

Soon as I make those generous offers, you - and they - all run like pigs from a gun... you - and they - don't really WANT their 'sovereignty' and all that guff - for the simple reason that they - and the stupid governments with no balls - KNOW that they can't have it both ways, but while they remain in limbo and are not told where to get off, they will continue to be a problem for the general community in every way they can come up with.


You draw arbitrary boundaries around regions you aim to isolate, forcibly separating people from the rest of society while insisting, "it's what they want."

This isn't what they're advocating for.

What you're suggesting is segregation.

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And so your governments betray the people and just hand over what is unearned and unwarranted - and the people said, still say and will say NO!

Get with the program or on your bike with your bag for Gon'Mo.

Your 'governments' simply lack the balls to tell it like it is - I simply tell it like it is - and you hate it!!


If you take issue with land rights policies and legislation, then engage with that subject directly.

Do not disguise your agenda by framing The Voice by stealth against the will of the people. Refrain from racial slurs and abandon the vile rhetoric that advocates violence against Indigenous communities, or fantasies of isolating them within “sealed domes” or establishing quotas for those heinous ideas that involve the hunting, harm, or targeting of people as though they were animals subject to “bag limits.” or saying this would have all been easier if the British has wiped them out during colonisation.

If you can’t restrain yourself to a constructive debate on land rights, then it's clear that land rights are not your true concern, they’re merely a cover for racist intent, just like everything else recently.

If you dislike the reflection of your own words, consider changing your stance rather than blaming others for holding up the mirror.

You have no grounds to complain of "abuse" when others cite and criticise the openly racist statements you have made. You cannot rewrite history to erase documented evidence; your statements stand in context, available for all to read.

Be better, slick.
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