Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 30
th, 2024 at 11:43am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 30
th, 2024 at 11:32am:
Sophia wrote on Oct 30
th, 2024 at 11:20am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 19
th, 2024 at 11:31am:
No.
The apology has already been made, we should be working away from that towards truth telling and reconciliation.
Yeah… I recall Kevin o seven saying sorry.
PS…. I read first page n half before it turned to squabbles then didn’t read all myriad of postings.
It's hard to avoid with certain posters around here who are incapable of acting in good faith, sadly.I don't think it would benefit anyone for Chuck to say Sorry, and being that he isn't just British, but royalty, they won't even admit to making a mistake, let alone apologise for something.
You are so right - some of you find it impossible to deal with reality and to refrain from personal rants.
Interesting take.
Wrong of course, unless you're talking about yourself, but interesting that you'd feel so compelled to come in and defend yourself when you weren't named.
I guess a guilty conscience can do that.
Post 17: I shared my opinion on the matter in a calm, measured and polite way.
You followed that up with 3 ranting posts with the last one lobbing personal insults my way in
Post 20.
Post 21: I replied politely, pointing out what you'd done, and your further demands, and questioning what you expect me to do with that, given the personal attacks.
Then as usual your next couple of posts are laced with your general disrespect, editing my quotes and more demands to answer your question about reconciliation in
post 24.
Against my better judgment which later proved to be a mistake, in
post 25 I offered you the chance for a reset, to put your past abuse behind and engage in the genuine discussion you're demanding about defining reconciliation, with a simple question to you that should I answer your question, will you answer mine.
Your response? In
post 26 you edited my quotes out again, falsely accused me or personal slagging and animosity and refused to even acknowledge the offer of an exchange, I answer your question, you answer mind and again just reiterated your demands that I answer your question.
In
post 32, I questioned given your response, how could I trust you to engage in the give-and-take of a genuine discussion and requoted my question you edited out.
You ignored it again in
post 33 and just demanded I answer the question.
So I gave you the benefit of the doubt in
post 34 and did just that and answer your questions about how I define reconciliation.
So up until this point, I gave you the reset, ignoring all your past abuse and attempted to engage with you in good faith. Your response was to refuse to commit to the basic tenants of a discussion, use disparaging names to refer to me, edited my quotes and kept disrespectfully demanding I answer your questions without the promise of any sort of good faith response. Despite all of that, I still answered your question.
From here, things deteriorated even further.
I answered your question, and I thought it only fair, since we're attempting a reset and a genuine discussion, that you answer mine.
But no, just more follow-up questions and demands.
More back and forths, with me requesting you answer my question and you stubbornly refusing, doing the usual quote editing, name calling and general disrespect.
I gave up by
post 68. I wasn't going to waste any more time pretending you were capable of the sort of genuine discussion you're demanding from me. It's a two way street.
You went on to play the victim of abuse when faced with an accurate description of your behaviour when I held a mirror up to you.
You then made more bullshit claims about me or what I stand for, claiming that "apartheid proven" and other such bullshit.
You're having a sook about being called racist, but
look at your history!YOU ARE.
So spare us the act of playing the wounded party, claiming others refuse to engage with you in good faith. The reality is, attempts were made, and they failed, because you either chose not to reciprocate or lack the basic capacity to discuss this topic without resorting to abuse and shallow gotchas. Like so much of what you post here, your stance crumbles under scrutiny, and instead of confronting that, you retreat into your worn-out toolkit of distraction, deflection, and personal attacks, all while projecting those very tactics onto others as you pose as the victim of your own behaviour.
No one’s falling for it.
Do better.
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