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Reply #15 - Oct 29th, 2024 at 11:05am
 
You need to stay off that whatever it is.  You're raving again while the cattle trucks are headed north from Alice...   Cool    the outrageous and totally unwarranted Land claims are biting the dust .... your progressive hateful eight seven, only the ACT standing short, on the Majority governments are falling one by one.... your new Queensland 'government' is under immense pressure to resolve 'youth crime' and crime generally and resolve the claims crisis created by The Voice By Stealth ... your ideological base here in Australia is evaporating... and you are still ranting and raving and abusing one person who speaks out as your chosen approach while pretending you are the victim....

Them dogs ain't gonna wash, Pilgrim.... you lost.... and you are growing more vicious, violent in your talk, and delusional as you watch your favourite walls between people collapse.... it's called a smokescreen, Poppets... while they run for the Fuhrerbunker under The Chancellory for their last stand.


See the fear...... hear the desperation ....feel the despair... your cause is lost.... and your pets will not be taking a special place in Australia but will have to co-operate alongside all the others..  if these incoming 'right' governments run chicken about ensuring that All are Treated Equally - they will fall in turn and the people will take control.

The People are sick of being lied to and betrayed and treated like serfs.

Accept The Voice Of The People!!  No Confiscation Without Consultation!  Secede Now, avoid the rush!  Form your own states that are more compatible with the wishes of your majority!    Cool
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Reply #16 - Oct 29th, 2024 at 12:13pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 29th, 2024 at 11:05am:
You need to stay off that whatever it is.  You're raving again while the cattle trucks are headed north from Alice...   Cool


You cannot simply dismiss it and sweep it under the rug. Refusing to confront your past ensures it will continue to cast a shadow over you.

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Them dogs ain't gonna wash, Pilgrim.... you lost.... and you are growing more vicious, violent in your talk, and delusional as you watch your favourite walls between people collapse.... it's called a smokescreen, Poppets... while they run for the Fuhrerbunker under The Chancellory for their last stand.


You spoke those words, and you advocated for those positions.

No amount of evasion or misdirection will alter that reality.

You are not a casualty of your own statements, no victim, nor is this an assault on you, it's simply called accountability.

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See the fear...... hear the desperation ....feel the despair... your cause is lost....


My 'cause' isn't the issue here - yours is.

You face serious questions, yet you continually dodge, deflect, and play the victim.

Why do you promote and defend such racist rhetoric while feigning concern for the very communities you claim to support?
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Reply #17 - Oct 29th, 2024 at 5:40pm
 
... dismissed and swept under the rug..... now for some real discussion.....

                                                                                touch the heartland feeling ... ...smell the fear.......... hear the despair ........ taste the desperation .... see the moral decay set in as the cookies crumble ....... the cause is lost.... a vilification... gone with the mind .....

Lesson #1:-  We deal here not with principalities of men and of women - we deal exclusively with principalities of good and evil, right and wrong, and all in fair balance.  Your way, put simply, grasshopper, is the wrong way and achieves nothing but division and strife.

Lesson #2:-  You, as do so many others, mistake the early brain-storming of such concepts as a Separate And Sovereign Aboriginal State to satisfy their demands partially and give them what they imagine they want and are entitled to - for the final solution of the Aboriginal problems.... the initial idea of acceding to their demand for Sovereignty AND for 'their own state' totally without the apparent evils of the Wharte Man's Way - via Aborassic Park - was not the final solution ... it was nothing more than the first set of potential guidelines for the Future Sovereign State Of Aboisolation.. named .. for short... Ablation ...

As time has gone by,this initial vague concept has been refined until the first inductees into Aborassic Park (final name to be determined) will be on a purely voluntary basis - all those who demand separate sovereignty and their own ways in everything fit neatly there - and once established, "Aborassic Park" could become both a venue for Midnight Expressing Northern Territory style all those who are criminals and recalcitrants and a safe space for those Aborigines incapable of handling The Wharte Man's Way.  In Aborassic Park they can be tutored by their Elders into the correct ways of behaving.. and once redeemed and deemed suitable for human company - could be released back into Australia on a provisional basis.

The idea of organised and totally insulated from direct contact (so as not to spoil the ambience of Aborassic Park and potentially pollute its pristine pre-1788 environment with chocolate wrappers, 4wd tyre tracks, empty VB cans, etc) Tourism was raised as a money spinner for The Park and to offset its management costs..... and an added bonus was the suggestion that The Park include Gondwanamo Bay - where the REAL Recalcitrants and the Upheavalists of Australian Society are sent for THEIR 're-education' regardless of race, colour, religion or other affiliation... contracted out to the management of The Park, Gon'mo could provide guards and dog handlers and such for tracking down the very tiny number of escapees - before the crocs get them, it is hoped, but nobody will count....

The concept of organised Maverick style 'hunts' to bring in much needed revenue remains a suggestion.... can't see any of them tourists hitting anyone at 300 paces with a boomerang, eh?  No need to get all oiled up over it.... $50,000 each!!

All in all - The Park and attached Gon'Mo is a win-win for all Australians - and especially for the Aborigines who choose to live there or who are 're-settled' there to gain guidance from the Elders in the Correct Paths In Life, and learn to be True Men and Women, while giving the ravers their very own state and their very own way of doing things, all in one neat nutshell (scrotum)...

Wassa Madda YOU?  Is good deal!  No like - no buy!
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Reply #18 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 6:18am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 29th, 2024 at 5:40pm:
... dismissed and swept under the rug.....


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Reply #19 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 1:03pm
 
Still can't respond or engage respectfully, can you, kid?    Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
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Reply #20 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 1:03pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 29th, 2024 at 5:40pm:
... dismissed and swept under the rug..... now for some real discussion.....

                                                                                touch the heartland feeling ... ...smell the fear.......... hear the despair ........ taste the desperation .... see the moral decay set in as the cookies crumble ....... the cause is lost.... a vilification... gone with the mind .....

Lesson #1:-  We deal here not with principalities of men and of women - we deal exclusively with principalities of good and evil, right and wrong, and all in fair balance.  Your way, put simply, grasshopper, is the wrong way and achieves nothing but division and strife.

Lesson #2:-  You, as do so many others, mistake the early brain-storming of such concepts as a Separate And Sovereign Aboriginal State to satisfy their demands partially and give them what they imagine they want and are entitled to - for the final solution of the Aboriginal problems.... the initial idea of acceding to their demand for Sovereignty AND for 'their own state' totally without the apparent evils of the Wharte Man's Way - via Aborassic Park - was not the final solution ... it was nothing more than the first set of potential guidelines for the Future Sovereign State Of Aboisolation.. named .. for short... Ablation ...

As time has gone by,this initial vague concept has been refined until the first inductees into Aborassic Park (final name to be determined) will be on a purely voluntary basis - all those who demand separate sovereignty and their own ways in everything fit neatly there - and once established, "Aborassic Park" could become both a venue for Midnight Expressing Northern Territory style all those who are criminals and recalcitrants and a safe space for those Aborigines incapable of handling The Wharte Man's Way.  In Aborassic Park they can be tutored by their Elders into the correct ways of behaving.. and once redeemed and deemed suitable for human company - could be released back into Australia on a provisional basis.

The idea of organised and totally insulated from direct contact (so as not to spoil the ambience of Aborassic Park and potentially pollute its pristine pre-1788 environment with chocolate wrappers, 4wd tyre tracks, empty VB cans, etc) Tourism was raised as a money spinner for The Park and to offset its management costs..... and an added bonus was the suggestion that The Park include Gondwanamo Bay - where the REAL Recalcitrants and the Upheavalists of Australian Society are sent for THEIR 're-education' regardless of race, colour, religion or other affiliation... contracted out to the management of The Park, Gon'mo could provide guards and dog handlers and such for tracking down the very tiny number of escapees - before the crocs get them, it is hoped, but nobody will count....

The concept of organised Maverick style 'hunts' to bring in much needed revenue remains a suggestion.... can't see any of them tourists hitting anyone at 300 paces with a boomerang, eh?  No need to get all oiled up over it.... $50,000 each!!

All in all - The Park and attached Gon'Mo is a win-win for all Australians - and especially for the Aborigines who choose to live there or who are 're-settled' there to gain guidance from the Elders in the Correct Paths In Life, and learn to be True Men and Women, while giving the ravers their very own state and their very own way of doing things, all in one neat nutshell (scrotum)...

Wassa Madda YOU?  Is good deal!  No like - no buy!

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Reply #21 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 2:41pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 1:03pm:
Still can't respond or engage respectfully, can you, kid?    Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin


Prove you can first.

You've lost the good faith argument and until you can prove you're capable of engaging in such, you're on your own, champ.

I'll simply respond to you as you do me.

Don't like it, be better.
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Reply #22 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 4:18pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 2:41pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 1:03pm:
Still can't respond or engage respectfully, can you, kid?    Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin



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Reply #23 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 4:22pm
 
                                               ...... feel the heartbeat of True Homeland Australia ........ smell the fear ......  hear the terror and wailing ..... see the collapse of any argument against truth....... breathe deeply of the smokescreen, Grasshoppers - it smells of burning tears.......... the voice is lost...... the voice by stealth was not lost on the people but is lost ......... truth and justice and equality in this man's democracy will prevail ...............
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Reply #24 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 4:35pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 22nd, 2024 at 7:44am:
Honestly - reading this I can't help laughing:-

"In serious cases or when there is a flight risk, judges frequently detain people in jail while they await trial but are still legally innocent.

However, in the Northern Territory, courts have been unable to keep pace.

They are buckling under the weight of a system many say is in "crisis", leaving a record number of people languishing on remand in hot and overcrowded prisons.

An unprecedented number of people are being remanded in custody in the NT, and the average number of days people are spending on remand is longer than ever before.


And your solution is: lock'em up (oops - prisons are full, can't do that); or 'Apartheid' ("Aborissic Park") which neither Thorpe nor Price would countenance. 

It's a pity Conservatives don't do causes...





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Reply #25 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 4:57pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 4:18pm:

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Reply #26 - Oct 30th, 2024 at 7:39pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 4:35pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 22nd, 2024 at 7:44am:
Honestly - reading this I can't help laughing:-

"In serious cases or when there is a flight risk, judges frequently detain people in jail while they await trial but are still legally innocent.

However, in the Northern Territory, courts have been unable to keep pace.

They are buckling under the weight of a system many say is in "crisis", leaving a record number of people languishing on remand in hot and overcrowded prisons.

An unprecedented number of people are being remanded in custody in the NT, and the average number of days people are spending on remand is longer than ever before.


And your solution is: lock'em up (oops - prisons are full, can't do that); or 'Apartheid' ("Aborissic Park") which neither Thorpe nor Price would countenance. 

It's a pity Conservatives don't do causes...







I have never once said that was the solution - I merely raised the issues for consideration..... your kind chose to interpet that as  saying they should be locked up because your reasoning is faulty .... Aborassic Park is not Apartheid from this side of the fence - but from the other - it was the outcome of the demand for a separate state and their own sovereignty...  I merely offered them an option for consideration.... the thing about a demand for 'sovereignty' outside the mainstream and for 'their own state' in which they can 'do things their ways'  ................................... is that it is an all or nothing thing..... those demanding cannot continue to receive all the benefits of this nation while refusing the duties and responsibilities of citizens..... they have to make their own way.... all benefits and privileges cease at the gates... take it or leave it.

Who are these 'Conservatives' you are talking about?  Your kind are increasingly the Conservatives because you simply refuse to accept that things are changing every day, and that you have been on the wrong side of history and now the forces of people power are pushing in a different direction from your 'education' wasteland that has brought so much trouble to so many from so few....  never in the field of social conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few..... Cool
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Reply #27 - Oct 31st, 2024 at 7:39am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 30th, 2024 at 4:35pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 22nd, 2024 at 7:44am:
Honestly - reading this I can't help laughing:-

"In serious cases or when there is a flight risk, judges frequently detain people in jail while they await trial but are still legally innocent.

However, in the Northern Territory, courts have been unable to keep pace.

They are buckling under the weight of a system many say is in "crisis", leaving a record number of people languishing on remand in hot and overcrowded prisons.

An unprecedented number of people are being remanded in custody in the NT, and the average number of days people are spending on remand is longer than ever before.


And your solution is: lock'em up (oops - prisons are full, can't do that); or 'Apartheid' ("Aborissic Park") which neither Thorpe nor Price would countenance. 

It's a pity Conservatives don't do causes...







I have never once said that was the solution


Oh, we know what your final solutions are for them...

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Reply #28 - Oct 31st, 2024 at 6:13pm
 
Petal!!
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