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Reply #45 - Oct 24th, 2024 at 5:41pm
 
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #46 - Oct 24th, 2024 at 6:04pm
 
mothra wrote on Oct 24th, 2024 at 3:24pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 24th, 2024 at 10:47am:
mothra wrote on Oct 24th, 2024 at 10:23am:
Fragile, fragile ego.

That would be from your knee-jerk reactionism or, trait (volatile) neuroticism.

Vicarious outrage is the coward's way of expressing their inner anger at their own life.

In your case, it's made worse without a mind capable of expressing a coherent and cogent argument.



Yet i snookered you ... and now you're having a little hissy fit about it.

Just like you always do.


You have no capability of snookering even a pocket billiard player let alone someone in a real intellectual exchange.
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Reply #47 - Oct 24th, 2024 at 6:06pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 24th, 2024 at 5:41pm:


says the old tired under the cassock basher.
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Reply #48 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 6:39am
 
mothra wrote on Oct 24th, 2024 at 3:24pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 24th, 2024 at 10:47am:
mothra wrote on Oct 24th, 2024 at 10:23am:
Fragile, fragile ego.

That would be from your knee-jerk reactionism or, trait (volatile) neuroticism.

Vicarious outrage is the coward's way of expressing their inner anger at their own life.

In your case, it's made worse without a mind capable of expressing a coherent and cogent argument.



Yet i snookered you ... and now you're having a little hissy fit about it.

Just like you always do.

Not sure what snooker means to you... Your posts show you are not arguing the point of truth-telling, you're simply venting vicarious outrage.

Truth-telling is not a one-way street.

This is an issue that Noel Pearson has so much trouble with.

He is verbose in his criticism of wrongs done to Aboriginal peoples - and he is right about that - but decries truth-telling in the reverse as 'punching down on the black fella' - particularly in reference to Price's comments.

It's noteworthy that Pearson doesn't deny that Price has a point - just that she shouldn't make it.
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Reply #49 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 6:42am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 24th, 2024 at 5:41pm:

Ironic that you expend so much effort on showing your apathy.
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Reply #50 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 7:12am
 
Comment of the Week:-

"It's noteworthy that Pearson doesn't deny that Price has a point - just that she shouldn't make it. "
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Reply #51 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 10:20am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23rd, 2024 at 10:58pm:
Totally wrong, of course - the 'sovereignists' want to continue to enjoy all the privileges of being Australian, but they do not wish to be held to the same laws or the same conditions, the same rules of property ownership, the same handling in courts, the same controls over behaviour etc.


As usual you keep bleating about equality before the law, while blaming entrenched poverty on its victims.

Even Albo can't work out why he will be lucky to achieve minority government after the next election:  a third of the electorate who voted for him last time are now being crushed by cost of living and homelessness crises.

So much for 'equality before the law', regardless of delusions about 'sovereignty'.

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Reply #52 - Oct 25th, 2024 at 12:07pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 10:20am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23rd, 2024 at 10:58pm:
Totally wrong, of course - the 'sovereignists' want to continue to enjoy all the privileges of being Australian, but they do not wish to be held to the same laws or the same conditions, the same rules of property ownership, the same handling in courts, the same controls over behaviour etc.


As usual you keep
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equality before the law.





You're as easy as Skanka.
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Reply #53 - Oct 26th, 2024 at 5:07am
 
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Reply #54 - Oct 26th, 2024 at 7:12am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 12:07pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 10:20am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23rd, 2024 at 10:58pm:
Totally wrong, of course - the 'sovereignists' want to continue to enjoy all the privileges of being Australian, but they do not wish to be held to the same laws or the same conditions, the same rules of property ownership, the same handling in courts, the same controls over behaviour etc.


As usual you keep
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equality before the law.





You're as easy as Skanka.


Says the man? who has to change reality, literally in this case, to claim a win.

You must be so proud.
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Reply #55 - Oct 26th, 2024 at 10:52am
 
Ah - so now your claim is that there are not already special 'courts' in the NT, wherein an Aboriginal and only an Aboriginal, can have a case handled by a State magistrate and two 'elders' on the bench beside him/her, and that different outcomes are available with different punishments for proven wrongdoing? 

That in the NT particularly the police will not rush to attend any black on black issue for the simple reason that they are sick of being accused of wrongdoing no matter what they do - and that emotional wailing about 'their poor boy' somehow justifies his assaulting them with a knife or something??

So you feel that stealing cars and ramming around town and such is a form of right in order to compensate for the disadvantage these people 'suffer' - a 'disadvantage' far superior to their living conditions pre-1788 - and should not be punished as severely?

You are now claiming that every citizen of Queensland can make a claim for freehold land without paying for it - size and position undefined - on the basis that their possible ancestors may have walked on it at some time, and that will be given every consideration and more than likely just handed over?

You are so easy ..... haven't learned a thing since day before yesterday, have you?

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Reply #56 - Oct 26th, 2024 at 11:56am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 12:07pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 10:20am:
[quote author=The_Grappler link=1729581149/14#14 date=1729688297]Totally wrong, of course - the 'sovereignists' want to continue to enjoy all the privileges of being Australian, but they do not wish to be held to the same laws or the same conditions, the same rules of property ownership, the same handling in courts, the same controls over behaviour etc.


As usual you keep
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equality before the law.



I said
As usual you keep bleating about equality before the law, while blaming entrenched poverty on its victims.


I say there is no 'equality before the law', eg, "same rules of property ownership", when many are priced out of property ownership, and even forced into homelessness,  as at present in Oz. 

You now claim - enigmatically, without analysis - I am "standing for the law". 

No;  I'm standing for the UN UDHR. 


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Reply #57 - Oct 26th, 2024 at 11:59am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 12:07pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 25th, 2024 at 10:20am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23rd, 2024 at 10:58pm:
Totally wrong, of course - the 'sovereignists' want to continue to enjoy all the privileges of being Australian, but they do not wish to be held to the same laws or the same conditions, the same rules of property ownership, the same handling in courts, the same controls over behaviour etc.


As usual you keep
standing for
equality before the law.


You're as easy as Skanka.


And you're as deceptive as the most ideologically-blind  political hack anywhere, as examined in my previous post. 


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Reply #58 - Oct 26th, 2024 at 12:23pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 26th, 2024 at 10:52am:
Ah - so now your claim is that there are not already special 'courts' in the NT, wherein an Aboriginal and only an Aboriginal, can have a case handled by a State magistrate and two 'elders' on the bench beside him/her, and that different outcomes are available with different punishments for proven wrongdoing? 


Speaking for myself: I'm not denying that, but obviously 
laws, eg, anti drinking in public laws,  are going to much more badly affect dysfunctional (poverty-stricken)  blacks who are drinking themselves into oblivion in public parks.


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That in the NT particularly the police will not rush to attend any black on black issue for the simple reason that they are sick of being accused of wrongdoing no matter what they do - and that emotional wailing about 'their poor boy' somehow justifies his assaulting them with a knife or something??


Correct: the entire legal system (the "equality before the law" mob) is complicit in high black-crime stats because they acquiesce in the entrenched systemic poverty which is reponsible for chronic black crime.

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You are so easy ..... haven't learned a thing since day before yesterday, have you?


Certainly poor Thorpey hasn't learned treaties with indigenous peoples are a waste of time  (because they aren't based on principles delineated in the UNUDHR): the Maoris (and Canadian natives)  know it well - many are still subject to socio-economic disadvantage despite the treaties.   


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Reply #59 - Oct 26th, 2024 at 11:00pm
 
Well - force 'em into a job they don't want and see how they go.  Why would they want to work when they can just claim Maryborough or Roma freehold without paying a cent and then charge the Invaders rent on their own homes and businesses and farms etc? I dread to think what currency their rent payments would be made in .... what a totally insane idea.

Not one iota of truth telling in that idea, and certainly no healing.  Lying with one side of face while pretending with the other to be sweet and nice and play the victim who only wants reconciliation with the other...

Black Man speak with forked tongue....speak from both side of mouth at same time.... they make many promises, but they only ever keep the one - they promise to try to steal our land and homes and all businesses and infrastructure using lawfare and force us to pay rent - and they are keeping that promise.

Now their pet government in the Deep North is gone.......  better that way than Judgement Day when they try on taking people's everything worked and bought and paid for the old Blackfullah Imperial Way of invading and killing and taking all.

Queenslanders!  Secede from Brisdrain NOW - beat the rush!!
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